Thread 24602259

>Fantasy booktuber
>hasn't read George Macdonald
>hasn't read Lord Dunsany
>Hasn't read Roger Zelazny
>Hasn't read Robert E. Howard
>Hasn't read Poul Anderson
>Hasn't read Jack Vance
>Hasn't read Manly Wade Wellman
>Hasn't read Clark Aston Smith
>Hasn't read Gene Wolfe
>Hasn't read R. A. Lafferty
Forget these authors. Hasn't even read Tolkien's other works like Leaf by Niggle, Farmer Giles of Ham, Smith of Woottoon Major, Roverrandom, and his seminal essay 'On Fairy-Stories'. Instead reads tomes after tomes of generic epic fantasy slop again and again and again and again and again

Fais-toi soigner, pauvre minable.

>>24602259 (OP)
>/lit/cuck is jealous of booktube bull.

I am usually not very fond of /lit/ elitism, but I must admit that not having read Tolkien, Howard, Wolfe or Zelazny somewhat disqualifies any person from giving any enligthened opinion on this genre.

>>24602259 (OP)
>Priory of the Orange Tree
>Several Joe Abercrombie Books
>The Poppy War
>Red Rising
Meeting this person would result in a fistfight

>>24602259 (OP)
>Tolkien's
he's a grownup

>>24602259 (OP)
>acting pretentious about a genre for babies
You really thought you had something there huh?

>>24602259 (OP)
I only read Zelazny from that list, but you forgot Leiber, Moorcock, Donaldson, Guy Gavriel Kay, and Tad Willaims.

>>24602333
>Guy Gavriel Kay

>Hasn't read Gene Wolfe
Good
Reading Smith, Hodgson and Vance will be more rewarding and intellectually stimulating more than reading wolfe ever will

>>24602373
>tips fedora

>>24602373
>>24602385
>antiwolfefag still making up strawmen in his head

>>24602391
Grow up, Wolfefag

>>24602424
Already have. How about you?

>>24602425
You really haven't since you're reading juvenile teenage sci fi novels

>>24602431
Conan's a sci-fi novel?

>>24602445
How do the conan stories have anything to do with gene wolfe? When did i mention conan?
Howard was a better writer than wolfe. By far. and his work at least tries to be literary. Wolfe's doesn't

>>24602259 (OP)
It's appropriate enough. Modern fantasy has absolutely nothing to do with anything written before 1970. There might be a tiny bit of the most superficial influence from Tolkien or maybe Howard, but the kind of fantasy Dunsany and Smith wrote is effectively a completely different genre from modern "fantasy". The old fantasists were actually trying to communicate fantasies, experiences that felt like dreams and fairy tales and poetry. Modern fantasy writers just want to draw maps and remake Skyrim. The old fantasists wanted to paint beautiful imagery with beautiful prose. Modern fantasy writers want to show off how many pointless details they can overexplain using prose tailored for corporate focus groups with the reading ability of eighth graders. Your complaint is basically that this guy hasn't read the actual polar opposite of the kind of book he and his audience like. But why would he?

>>24602561
Name 5 modern fantasy like Skyrim

>>24602475
>How do the conan stories have anything to do with gene wolfe? When did i mention conan?
I should ask the same regarding juvenile teen sci-fi novels since you randomly brought them up for no reason. I just brought up what I was currently reading.

>>24602627
Not involved in the thread but just wanted to say, as a third party, /lit/ sees your reasonable witty behavior and judges the man who attempts to strawman you as guilty of being low iq and incompetent

>>24602660
nobody cares samefag
>>24602627
BOTNS is the defintion of a juvenile sci fi novel

>>24602679
Really? If anyone else cares, reply to me. He will call you a samefag but we can stand in solidarity. Show me /lit/, is this the type of man you stand for?!?

>>24602679
>BOTNS is the defintion of a juvenile sci fi novel
It certainly has elements of a Japanese fantasy light novel, but the prose, worldbuilding, and metaplot puts it well and above that.

>>24602727
>worldbuilding
meme term
harrison was right about it
>prose
good, but not the greatest prose in the fantasy genre
>metaplot
Entry level
close but no cigar

>>24602684
I would have a melty that /lit/ is not a board of righteous knights to defend their brothers but i guess i should' have known...
>>24602679
I kneel. you are the winner now

>>24602776
>meme term
>harrison was right about it
Normally I'd agree, but Wolfe is one of the few to get it right.

>>24602800
How?

>>24602826
By simply *not* overly explaining things or giving out extraneous details, treating the reader as if they're already familiar with the world and thus leaving them to connect all the dots as they read. A lesser writer would have blatantly told the reader that Severian's world is the same as ours in some paragraphs long exposition instead of just casually hinting at it, for instance. Wolfe's method engages with the reader's imagination much more, and left me more curious about the world Severian inhabits and how it got there.

>>24602852
Plenty of authors before Wolfe did that too
How is wolfe unique for it?

>>24602931
>uh how is it better?
>oh well other authors did it better before him
>i wont name a single one though
Retard

>>24605213
Howard
Smith
Vance

Pseud

>>24602259 (OP)
There's too many books. Sometimes you gotta just stop reading for a little bit and launch the YouTube channel

>>24602259 (OP)
Those authors are more obscure than you think, if he made videos about them instead of the slop he would have like 300 views on average.

>>24602259 (OP)
this guy's videos are pure slopulence, yet he poses with that finger like he just invented cold fusion McGyvered from a yoyo, a jockstrap and a plastic duck whistle. What is even going on in his head...

So he's an advertiser?

>>24602259 (OP)
>George MacDonald
phantastes is so kino

>>24606427
why else would anyone make a youtube channel? that's literally the endgame. get paid to shill shit.

>>24602259 (OP)
You left E.R. Eddison off your list but besides that you're 100% correct.

>>24602561
Some niggling flaws in this arguments but it's broadly correct, post-Shannara fantasy is essentially the isekai of speculative fiction, a horrible subgenre that consumed the medium.

>>24607891
I've always thought of it as post-DnD fantasy.

>>24602259 (OP)
>Red Rising
>Fantasy
Opinion discarded.

>>24602259 (OP)
you made up half of those names lil bro

>>24607914
And the theme-park version of DnD at that.

>>24602259 (OP)
>no deltora's quest
opinion discarded

>>24609806
This is a romantasy where the female MC gets fucked by the thing on the cover, isn't it.

>>24610061
no
but if it will get you to read it then yes