Thread 24606134

why are neet literature so rare?

the kind of personality types that have this issue are much rarer in the west so it's not really marketable, dunces only got sold because an actually successful author pushed it because he felt bad for his mom.
More common in japan so they have much more media about it. Just look at the prevalence of say INTPs in japanese media vs western media they are a huge bigger % of the population there. In the west they are kind of hated and much less common.
t. i have ignatius riley's exact personality type

it mainly comes about from people who are introverted judging dominants with tertiary Si so when they doom spiral they seclude w/ si and their dominant functions looping.

that's intp and infp
in the japan both are around ~10% so 1/5th of the entire population
In the US they are like 3 and 4 % so 7% of the total population

we can never get true shutin kino https://youtu.be/xkH8ti1gakE

just opened this book for a first reading and there is a /lit/ post at the exact moment. What am i in for /lit/izens?

>>24606134 (OP)
NEETS don't do anything but scroll the internet play vidya and whack off all day. Hard to build a story around such a person.

i was researching hermits and shut ins once and came across the genre of Japanese hermit poetry.
monks would go out into the forest to write poetry alone.
as a neet that likes poetry the who idea really spoke to me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryōkan

>>24606153
>More common in japan so they have much more media about it. Just look at the prevalence of say INTPs in japanese media vs western media they are a huge bigger % of the population there. In the west they are kind of hated and much less common.

Do you think social pressures contribute to it? That personality can be shaped by society?

>>24606358
it's obviously racial/genetic. I imagine the selection pressures of island/more isolated nations like the UK had some similar stuff as japan and that's why people with a racial background in each have some affinity.

society isnt a thing it doesn't do/shape anything.

>>24606134 (OP)
i always thought this dude on the cover was mario. never read it lol

>>24606298
A book about (you).

>>24606440
to me he looks like morshu

>>24606153
>believing in fake personality types made for woman
Absolute retard.

>>24608234
i also believe in astrology sorry dude u got filtered

>>24606317
Wow nice cool

>>24606896
HOTDOGS, YOU WANT THEM? THEY'RE YOURS, MY FRIEND.

>>24606393
>society isnt a thing it doesn't do/shape anything.
so, social science doesn't exist, huh? thanks for outing yourself as a retard.

>>24606358
Yes, NEETdom is most prevalent among eldest sons in middle class families where both parents are successful. Read picrel for more info.

>>24608793
What do you think drives this? Im the eldest son in my family.

>>24608854
Life is hard and full of suffering. If a child is coddled so much that they never learned to deal with suffering and haven't built up a resistance to it, then they will have trouble facing the outside world. Life sucks so much that learning to suffer is a required skill.

>>24606134 (OP)
Is it rare tho?

>ACoD
>Oblomov
>Crime and Punishment
>Bartleby, the Scrivener
>Notes from Underground
>The Young Hopeful
>Steppenwolf

Like, are there much more influential works of Chad Thundercock literature?

>>24609292
>>24606134 (OP)
Akshually, seeing as Ignatius does get legitimate employment for some time across the novel and we still count Confederacy as neet lit, this list can be expanded massively - The Stranger, Journey to the end of the night, Onegin, etc etc etc etc

>>24606134 (OP)
How can you make NEET life interesting enough to read about?
>>24606304
This

>>24608315
social science forms models to track/predict things that do exist, it's not tracking "society" it's tracking individual people at a mass scale but the only thing actually doing anything is just the individual people.
let me know a single thing society has done once ever, what has it actually effected in particular that wasn't a human being doing something.

Its not

>>24609801
Was just about to post this

>>24609292
>Like, are there much more influential works of Chad Thundercock literature?
Bel-Ami
Don Juan
The Aeneid

>>24606298
It got a few chuckles out of me, but that's it. I've read plenty of funnier books.

>>24610946
Like what

>>24611012
No idea. Can’t remember them despite reading them

>>24606134 (OP)
man this book fucking rocks. TFW you will drink brandy with Ignatius in a seedy new orleans bar and discuss the decline of morality

>>24611019
It’s all fun and games until his valve stops working right. Make sure you bring toilet paper

>>24609801
The anime shattered me when I watched it like 10 years ago. I should give it a re-watch and see how I feel now.

>>24611112
just needs a little time with the glove at that point. And whatever you do don't respond to Myrna Minoff's last letter.

>>24609792
Read Tonnies. There's a distinction between community and society that gets overlooked

>>24609212
That doesn't explain why its majority male. Women get coddled their whole life and don't turn out like this.

>>24611305
>Women get coddled their whole life
Doesn't that prove my point? If women received the same cold-hearted no empathy treatment outside their parents home that men did then they wouldn't leave either.

>>24609292
The catcher in the rye (was Holden still in school?)
Don Quixote (what job did he have?)
The Gospels (did JC have a job?)
20K Leagues (how did Nemo support himself?)

>>24606134 (OP)
Neet? I'd like to see you sell a tray of hot dogs faster than this young strapping entrepreneur

>>24611325
I thought your argument was that Hikikomori are a result of coddling my bad

>>24611325
Actually scratch that I thought you were arguing that Hikikomori were coddled by their parents

>>24610699
If 4chan existed in the 1800s Bel Ami would be probably the perfect power fantasy, up to and including marrying a little girl who’s in love with you

>>24611354
You ask a lot of important questions and I'm ashamed to admit that I don't have all the answers.

>>24606134 (OP)

>>24606304

Ignatus got an adventure : he as to look for a job and get into society.
So let's say we would have to write about a neet who leave neetdom.

>>24609801
NHK sucks
>ooh he’s le miserable neet but he has friends and a girl interested in saving him
Turned it off halfway through

>>24609292
>Notes from Underground
I'm still amazed how this went from depressing to comedy gold in a single chapter.

>>24613182
Call me a dimwit but I didn't care about the opening half of Notes From Underground at all, it only got good when it turned into a diary about a Russian George Costanza losing his mind over the fact that people he didn't like don't want to invite him to the going away party of someone he barely tolerates

>>24613221
I read it again last month and I felt exactly the same, wich oddly enough is the opposite of how I felt when I first read it years ago.

>>24613221
Shut up, Benjy

>>24611354
>Don Quixote (what job did he have?)
minor rural nobility
>The Gospels (did JC have a job?)
carpenter


Does Proust count as a neet?

>>24606153
>much rarer in the west
Not really. At least, I wouldn't say that's the case anymore.

>>24606153
>>24612097
As an INTP NEET looking to reintegrate into society should I read A Confederacy of Dunces before or after I land a job?

>>24613511
You can do both at the same time you stupid monkey

>>24613511
read it once you get your job so you can lose it

>>24613396
>minor rural nobility
Not a job.
>carpenter
He stopped working that job. Did you ever hear about him doing any carpentering? No, no you did not.

These two truly lived in a society.

>>24606298
It's funny but it also made me angry lol.
I really just wanted o punch Ignatius face so bad

Neet lit even won a nobel prize

>>24609294
>The Stranger

Except Meursault has a job, "friends", and even a girlfriend. The only neet thing about him is that he can't stand the sun

>>24613511

the only advice i give you is : never forget the title when you go through this masterpiece.

>>24606134 (OP)
Lmao nigga,one trait of being a superfluous man in russian /lit/erature was about being a neet.

>>24615481
>Except Meursault has a job, "friends", and even a girlfriend.
So does Ignatius. That was the whole pouit.

>>24615495
Mediocre taste

>>24608239
>I also believe in astrology
Let me guess, you met your current gf reading Sylvia Plath at the cafe after she mentioned the vanilla cream labubu you had casually clipped to your fjallraven kanken? Keep up the good work at owning us, bro.

I have a 10-15 hour a week job but I've been a NEET for nearly 7 years although I did graduate university
I don't like reading about NEETs
I tried reading John Le Carré but got anxious when it talked about him having to do work for the Dole
One short story that affected me was Garçon, un bock !... by Maupassant
Also A Landlord's Morning by Tolstoy
Reading that short story made me cry for 2 days

>>24615698
bold of you to think i have a gf
astrology is a very good and complex psychological model that dwarfs anything else we have that has been refined for thousands of years, even apart from it fitting just the conceptual vocabulary it provides is not really attainable otherwise.
Also if you actually dig into your and other people's chart you find it actually does fit it is just very complex so most people just use crude simplifications like sun signs that basically have 0 meaning on their own in traditional astrology.

>>24606298
Ignatius is a full on retard. No redeeming qualities whatsoever.

>>24606304
spoken like someone who hasn't been a NEET for longer than a week.