Thread 24606334

David foster wallace: threw a coffee table at a woman, raped a 17 year old while on tour, stalked a 5 year old child, pushed woman from a moving car, threatened to kill a guy.... why do literary people still stan him? "buhhh but uh irony is the problem"
>He pushed the poet and memoirist Mary Karr from a speeding vehicle.
>He threw a coffee table at Karr and shattered it.
>After attempting to pay Karr back for destroying the table he threw at her, he demanded that she give him shards of the table to keep.
>He stalked Karr and punched out her car window.
>He assaulted a student during a creative writing class he was teaching.
>He had sex with his creative writing students and, while on book tour, a 17-year-old.
>He stalked Karr and her five-year-old son, and threatened to shoot Karr’s husband with a gun he’d bought for that express purpose.

https://medium.com/@devonprice/a-brief-on-hideous-things-about-david-foster-wallace-72034b20de94?fbclid=IwAR3Te8EPX0-OZceCh4uHe2EjPQeqYPuGeOALA8z4JtCmz1BteW5o5ss23jQ
And you all still think he’s some self-help guru?

>>24606334 (OP)
Yeah but he made Graduation though

>>24606334 (OP)
Wtf I love David Foster Wallace now

american-campus drama

>>24606337
kek

>>24606334 (OP)
sounds just like eccentric rockstar behavior
who cares

Don't care

>>24606334 (OP)
Is the world done pretending they care about women yet? They can't even convict the Epstein mfers.

>>24606350
^
None of this does anything to diminish the quality of the writing. Infinite jest is still good irregardless of anything you say

>>24606334 (OP)
You'd think he'd be able to introspect and write something emotionally penetrative and universally human given the intense instability of his personal life instead of sprawling tomes about the dangers of television

>>24606334 (OP)
You said he "raped" a teenager but then you said he had sex with her. Which is it?

>>24606334 (OP)
Nobody is perfect and none of these really sound that bad.

>>24606348
>sounds just like eccentric rockstar behavior
>who cares
definitely does. I've seen old pictures of David Lee Roth in handcuffs before, tearing up motel rooms, furniture out the window, trying to karate kick cops that respond... LMAO

The feminine urge to ruin a mans legacy posthumously instead of contribution something of worth to society

>>24606334 (OP)
Is he Jewish?
Jewish people are allowed to run over babies with bulldozers, and call it self defense.
There's diff. rules for gods chosen people.
I'm so jealous of them.

>>24606375
It is alleged that he engaged in illicit sexual conduct with a minor, your grace

>>24606391
Shoot pregnant mothers with quadcopter drones because the babies are hamas

>>24606334 (OP)
Don't care

>>24606406
You are part of the problem, incel.

>>24606456
This is a fake letter. Nice try, though.

>>24606465
>Fake
Try again.
https://research.hrc.utexas.edu/fasearch/findingAid.cfm?eadid=00503

Who gives a shit. Every person has hidden controversies in their past. Whoever denies this is only attempting to elevate their own sense of self-importance by vilifying all others.

>>24606334 (OP)
I'm reading my first Wallace. Will I become a violent incel???

Damn... maybe I should give Infinite Jest another go

>>24606510
Okay, but watch out, it may lead to violent tendencies

>>24606351
Epstein is a hoax now, keep up. Even if Trump is on the list, it doesn't mean anything, and you shouldn't care about the files because Epstein's main accomplice is going to tell the real names in exchange for full immunity anyhow. Those files are fake names made by DemoRATS. The names given in exchange for a Trump pardon will be legit though.

>>24606510
Do it.

>why do literary people still stan him?
He wrote well

>>24606545
We voted for him because of the memes.
Trump is a pedo. Don't be brainwashed.

>>24607817
>suddenly

>>24606334 (OP)
so my nigga is a rockstar? maybe i should start reading him

>>24606388
>instead of contribution something

You can allege that a dead person did literally anything scandalous while alive with zero actual verifiable proof and people will believe it.

>>24606334 (OP)
I wish I got to experience the 90s uni lit scene.

>>24606334 (OP)
>17-year-old.
YIKES

>>24606334 (OP)
The guy had some problems. So what? We gonna burn and salt his body because of it? What makes you so saintly?

>>24606334 (OP)
What was his problem with this Karr lady? Did he just really hate her poetry?

>>24606334 (OP)
Art students can do this not writers

>>24609867
They were dating obviously. I wouldn't be surprised if my ex wrote smth like this even while I'm alive, so I really don't see the point of this post.

>>24606367
>irregardless
DFW would've hated you.

>>24606375
SHE WAS 17 YEARS 11 MOTHS AND 23 HOURS OLD YOU SICK FUCK.

>>24610169
Sorry bozo, my penis obeys only the law, and the lawyers, dictum in hand, say these girls cannot be attractive.

>>24610175
What happens if you stand on a border of different countries with different aoc with your eyes on one side and the penis on another?

>>24610193
American social(medial)ites will bite off your manhood if you dare not follow the law of The United States Of The Grand American Country. They'll bite and chew heartily, while pretencing not to enjoy the only touch of man they'll ever experience in their lives.

>>24610193
I imagine it would operate similarly to split-brain patients. Your penis would grow erect, but when asked why, your conscious mind would invent a plausible, yet false, reason out of thin air.

>>24606348
If you took OP's post and swapped Wallace's name for Iggy Pop or Clapton, I wouldn't have doubted it for a second

>>24607817
>yeah he's a pedo but we owned the libs
>so why do you care
You faggots are beyond parody, funniest part about this is that you're going to see this and think "Heh, I'm so Le Based, they're Le Seething"

>>24606545
cope beyond belief

>>24606545
Whether the glow is originating from you or you’re just reflecting it I can’t tell. But there is a glow coming from this post.

>>24610146
Nah, DFW would forgive him.

>>24609867
He was madly in love with her. How do you not get this.

>some self-help guru
Umm sweetie, he wrote fiction. Very well I might add.

>>24610169
Sorry chud but yes, being unable to wait until even the bare minimum age for a girl to resemble a woman rather than a child is considered odd by most normal people.

>>24610820
false empirical claim

>>24606334 (OP)
His non fiction is good. But when he had to create his own universes, they sucked usually. The upcycle from broom to infinite really did it in. He really wanted broom to work for whatever reason.

>>24610820
So... 14 then.

>>24610799
>Very well I might add.
No! His fiction is like unintended satire of fiction

>>24606334 (OP)
Makes me like him more

>>24606334 (OP)
I wouldn't give a shit if satan himself wrote a book as long as it was good reading. Imagine caring about this sort of thing. Well good luck with your illness and God bless!

>>24611255
It's one thing to not care but to like someone specifically because they're manipulative and brutish is a puzzling phenomenon particularly common around this shithole.

>>24610169
You think she masturbates to it to this day ?

>>24606367
>irregardless

Read Authority and American Usage by DFW NOW!

>>24606334 (OP)
He did it a ironically

>>24606545
Trump’s office is literally withholding publication of the Epstein files because it might have ramifications for his elite friends who like to prey on underage girls. That’s what is happening right now. Cope harder maga retard.

>>24606334 (OP)
Wtf I love DFW now

>>24606367
>irregardless
Based. Don’t let some bookcel academic dictate how you speak

>>24606392
17 is legal in Illinois

>>24606545
I unironically don’t give a f about Epstein
A nigga gotta do what a nigga gotta do. I have nothing but respect for him

>>24610169
Pedophiles are the reason im in favor of the death penalty

>>24610325
>>24612605
>underage
All the Epstein island girls were 17 and 18 lmao

>>24613073
>BROOO we should EXECUTE men who have sex with 17 year olds!!!
Reddit’s that way

>>24613091
Redditors (liberals) are the one in favor of lowering the age of consent and are against the death penalty, but ok.

>>24613064
Sure, 17 and 18/19, even 20 isn’t weird at all. But let’s not pretend like this is still the biblical era where the only men who could afford to support a family were already in their mid 30s-40s. Age gaps on their own are not necessarily concerning, but there is more cause for concern and opportunity for abuse the larger it is and the younger one of the other parties is. Of course you won’t find people here taking this well: they’re all betting on making it as elderly s-expats in Vietnam.

>>24613111
Not true anymore.

>>24611294
I agree. I don’t think that a writer’s body of work should be dismissed or devalued simply because they had a messy personal life, but venerating a writer specifically because they have a history of harmful behaviour is distasteful and bizarre. For example, when Alice Munro’s daughter published an article last year stating that her stepfather sexually abused her when she was a child, and that her mother blamed her for the abuse and stayed with him even after he was convicted for it, posters who have never read a word of Alice Munro in their lives and who would typically denigrate any book written by a woman were coming out of the woodwork to call her “based” for taking her husbands’ side and sweeping her daughter’s trauma under the rug. Disgusting behaviour. If you feel that a literary work has value then don’t let the unsavoury aspects of the writer’s past stop you from engaging with it, but celebrating someone for being a fucked up, abusive person is despicable.

>>24613150
Yeah that thread was another prime example of the shit you see around here. I hope it's trolling because I genuinely can't understand that outlook and how someone reaches the point where they don't even attempt to have a semblance of compassion or morality. I wonder if they read at all and if they do I can't imagine any work that doesn't serve to reinforce some antisocial ideology can leave any sort of impression.

>>24609867
You can watch the movie "The End of the Tour." It covers that.

>>24613389
Shit movie desu

>>24606334 (OP)
God tier
>>24606456
Truke

>>24612503
>Americans trying to teach the English language
hilarious

shitlibs are basically christcucks with a different coat of paint

>>24615883
Lmao based

>>24615878
Fuck off, cum guzzling Eurotrash (or worse). Objectively, Dave could have ran fucking circles around you linguistically, figuratively.

>>24606472
Underrated post

>>24606334 (OP)
If you've never HULK SMASHED anything at least once in your life you're low T. I started running and it waaay spiked my test for something like the first month.

I got in an argument (over nothing, I accidently broke some plastic piece of shit decoration that was in the wrong place) with my gf, and while I was holding her arms because she was hitting me she spit in my face. I had to throw her to the ground and then I kicked a door off the hinges. I had to, it was out of my control. It was only a shitty door.

>>24617394
Abuser

>>24606334 (OP)
Maybe he was not such a faggot after all
>>24610820
So you're saying liking 13 y/os is based right?

>>24618640
>average pedo reading comprehension

>>24618572
It's not abuse when she wants it. Why else would she spit in my face?

>>24606351
The most wretched creature on earth is an impoverished woman

>>24606456
Do you think this guy ever recovered from this burn?

>>24617364
objectively, he would've killed himself before finishing his Aaron Sorkin routine.
Americans speak creole.

>>24606334 (OP)
Wow I didn't know he was this based. Going on Amazon to buy Infinite Jest right now!

>>24606334 (OP)
and which words of his writing does this alter?

>>24622223
>He doesn't understand the implications
Yikes...

>>24609532
"Don't read his works, he's a pig. Read mine instead"

>>24622285
care to explain the implications?

>>24622223
none bitch

How i was feeling earlier this morning was to go back to earlier issues last spring i never understood but was thinking about last spring about why is the author as an idea still something that is taken seriously as more than something that is a patriarchal construct the reification of the patriarchal concept of the author wherever the fiction of copyright is enforced upon language or space or time.

>>24623727
it's not due to copyright, there has to be an author so the government knows who to punish, read foucault's "what is an author"

https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Foucault_Author.pdf

>>24622296
His writing is as spurious as his persona

>>24609532
yeah just look at what they did to paul de man. who's paul de man u say? exactly! cancelled to the point of complete eradication, and they could have came with it any time but waited until he was dead so he couldn't respond. real bitch move.

>>24623727
the author predates capitalism by a lot dude:

>According to Saint Jerome, there are four criteria: the texts that must be eliminated from the list of works attributed to a single author are those inferior to the others (thus, the author is defined as a standard level of quality); those whose ideas conflict with the doctrine expressed in the others (here the author is defined as a certain field of conceptual or theoretical coherence); those written in a different style and containing words and phrases not ordinarily found in the other works (the author is seen as a stylistic uniformity); and those referring to events or historical figures subsequent to the death of the author (the author is thus a definite historical figure in which a series of events converge).

>>24606334 (OP)
What's the pointing of becoming a famous writer if you can't indulge in the river of pussy that is thrown at you? This is why men don't want to write anymore. Arthoes will constantly try to cancel you now.

Women will NEVER understand this plight.

>>24606334 (OP)
You've made some good arguments but I'm still not reading IJ.

>>24606545
>DemoRATS
Really? DemonRats was right there

k

>>24623749
please establish, with evidence, what you say his persona is, and give examples of his attributed persona affecting the quality of his writing.

You wouldn't just be doing reputational damage like a litle bitch, now, would you?

>>24606334 (OP)
I thought he was just another writer who puts out "LE SAD" tomes so I never bothered with him. Hearing about this actually makes me want to read them now, though. He sounds like a fun guy.

>>24624994
>You wouldn't just be doing reputational damage like a litle bitch, now, would you?
Sorry anon but you're allowed to disapprove of a writer's writing and behavior

>>24625615
and you're allowed to be a little bitch too.

>>24625602
he is

>>24606334 (OP)
Based. Too bad his books are all shit.