Thread 24611536

>Wanted to be a creative for my entire life
>Been writing and role-playing for 12 years
>Never been able to finish a multi chapter story in my entire life most of my writing being drabbles that go nowhere.
>Now I can't make myself write for more than a few sentences at most without just giving up and staring at my phone

What do I do? I want to be a creative so badly and stop wasting my life doing nothing.

>>24611536 (OP)
I'm trans btw, not sure if that matters

>>24611536 (OP)
>Wanted to be a creative for my entire life
Wanting to be creative isn't a pathway to being creative. You're either creative or you want to cum, that's it. Either create or shut the fuck up about your longings, maybe hire a prostitute.

Man you really don’t give up huh. Even the picture isn’t changed. You should at least change the image.

>>24611550
I like that some idiot saved the thumbnail jpg with the transparency grid background instead of the actual png

This is Howie btw
>>>/ic/7672820
He's been making these threads for years now. He will never take any advice and he will insult you for not knowing nothing will work and not giving him the magic advice that will fix all his problems with him not having to do anything.

>>24611586
What do I do to make myself? I've tried forcing myself for years but all I do is lay in bed, looking at my phone, jerking off and going to sleep. I can't make myself write or do much of anything anymore.

>>24611601
You should mix tomatoes and olive oil into a pan, then dump the pan into a pot and boil for thirty years. When you stop digging in your butt for the pot of gold Ol’ Lucky Charms stuck in there, you will find the answer behind your ear.

>>24611610
Now he will yell at you, call you a troll, and then tell you to fuck off or give him "actual advice". He's just a chatbot.

>>24611536 (OP)
You have to do it every day for multiple hours a day without any distractions like your phone. Put your phone in another room. Treat it like a 9-5 and be your own hardass boss. Think about yourself as your employee. How would you feel if your employee was doing what you're doing right now?
If you're going to half-ass it, quit. Do it for fun in your free time and keep it to yourself. Not in a gatekeeping way, in a, you will never enjoy writing if you're not a serious person about it.
Is it a hobby? Or a career? Which are you going to treat it like? Pick that one.

>>24611624
I've heard this for literally everything single hobby I've ever tried doing and every time it's always failed. I've never been able to commit myself to any serious hobby ever. I've always been distracted and always lose motivation immediately. My ADHD makes it impossible for me to follow through with things. Nowadays, I can't even make myself write or draw at all.

>>24611629
Ok it's a hobby for you. Treat it like one.

I am the same as you. I’ve always wanted to be creative but unfortunately I’ve just been too busy sticking pencils up my nose. Every time I get a classic book idea like “vampire lawyers suing a blood bank” my hands immediately run toward a pencil and shove it up my nose. This is obviously debilitating and I am unable to focus on anything except the nose-splitting pain of a lead pencil splintering in my nasal cavity. In fact just now as I am drafting this post I had the great idea to write a novella about a pregnant gummy bear living in Kuwait, but now I’m forcing in a big Pilot fountain pen into my left nostril. It’s not fun and in a few moments the countless scabs in my nose will start to open and I’ll have to take a reprieve and stick my tissues in my nose. Don’t steal my ideas I implore you. Once I get rid of this problem of sticking writing utensils up my nose, I’ll be a world famous novelist. You’ll see. You’ll all see. Oh no I’m imagining writing a book about an orphan who can see hieroglyphics every time his mom takes him to TJ Max and now I’m Donnyng it againshensbshrhsbmaehhrn

>>24611633
How? Every time I try, I do it for like 30 seconds at most before stopping, laying in bed on my phone again.

>>24611633
How do I make myself do it? I'm tired of only being able to stare at walls while occasionally playing a video game. I'm tired of not being able to understand all these programs and processes that everyone else can. My ADHD just makes me do nothing all day or just jerk off all day. I'm tired of being held back by this. Nothing else is stimulating for me. What the fuck do I do?

>>24611633
These threads are his hobby. The only consistent thing he has been able to do these past three years.

>>24611637
You just answered your own question.

>>24611640
I don’t know if you saw my original post but I also have the same problem. I’ve been sticking pencils up my nose every time I get a Great Big Idea and it’s really killing my writing routine. Every time an idea flashes in my mind (such as a nursing home for goblins getting ransacked by the IRS) my urge to stick a pencil in my nose becomes irresistible and I do it. Sometimes I miss and poke my eye and now my left eye is half blind. The only cool thing is that the eye looks blue (because I have a Blue Pilot Fountain Pen with Blue Ink that has never written a word due to my condition) so it looks like I have blue eyes like Gojo from Jiu Jitsu Kaisen. Sadly this is the only good thing I got going for my life right now. I’m just like you.

>>24611642
No. It doesn't. How do I make myself focus and actually follow through with things rather than losing dopamine and giving up immediately?

STOP POSTING THIS FUCKING THREAD OVER AND OVER HOLY SHIT

>>24611650
I don’t know but honestly I also have a problem with losing dopamine. The thing is that every time I sit down to write a book, I get an unstoppable urge to stick pencils up my nose. The thing is when I do this the pencils become all bloody and I can’t use them to write anymore. So I go to CVS and buy more pencils that aren’t coated in my snot blood. But then when I try to write and think of a novel new idea for my novel (fat guy can’t stop eating eats too much and dies) I stick those new pencils up my nose again. It’s a ruthless ruthless cycle and I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone except maybe Bill Murray because he looks like a dick. What the fuck now im imagining writing a screenplay where a powerful black woman financier beats up Bill Murray with a baseball bat and now I’m doing it again. I can’t keep spending 5.99 for a new case of pencils I won’t be able to buy food

>>24611654
Not until I get advice that works

>>24611658
Any year now you will receive the magic advice that will solve your problems and you will have to do nothing for it.

>>24611663
My problem is that I WANT to do things but my ADHD makes me give up immediately once it gets slightly difficult

>>24611658
You should archive all these threads and present the sisyphean effort as your magnum opus. You've made it, it's time to rest.

>>24611669
That won't solve your problems though. There's no magic solution that won't make it less difficult.

Start small. Start by getting out of bed by at least 9:00 am (I assume you’re unemployed).
Then once that becomes easy, get less than 3 hours of screen time on your phone.
Then once that becomes easy, move to the next improvement.
Eventually you’ll have the discipline to sort a desk and write for thirty minutes.

can someone kill this spammer?

>>24611684
: ( its literally not much different from a semi original one sentence bait post anyway, spam or otherwise low quality shit should be WIPED as thread topics. fun inside is a different story because you arent potentially sliding off another good thread

>>24611669
you’re over identifying with your ADHD. Let go of narratives about yourself. You’ll be able to write when you stop obsessively trying to make yourself a writer. ADHD does not mean you can’t write a book, you simply are not trying to work with your ADHD and are working against it
You’re also the pathetic self loathing type that ALWAYS has an excuse so the advice is more for others

>>24611723
>You’ll be able to write when you stop obsessively trying to make yourself a writer.
This is what it's always been like for my entire life. I have an entire concept for a story, maybe even get a couple of pieces of art from friends and maybe do two chapters at most. Then the dopamine stops, I give up and I stop caring after a while. Every single time it's always like this. I don't know how to stop this from happening.

I have to keep trying and obsessing over being a writer otherwise I'll go nowhere.

>>24611748
I think you just have a humiliation fetish. Why else would you make the same board again, and again, and again? You even mentioned being trans at the beginning, as if such a thing would be relevant or well received here. You probably make this thread hoping others will degrade and laugh at you, because you get off on it.
Well played.

>>24611748
Try having a life worth living before writing, I made a full life for myself and now I write easily. And if I never finish my work it doesn’t matter because I have the love of my wife and family

You just do it
That simple
Start smoking cigarettes or some shit
But as I can tell in this thread you instead spend your energy bitching instead of trying
if it take 10 hours to get something done it takes 10 hours
But you probably sit down. Draw one line or write one sentence and then pick up the phone and whine and bitch.
You give up and lay back in bed just to restart the cycle
Dont leave the place your writing until your happy with what you've accomplished for the day
If it takes 10 hours, 1 hour writing 9 hours phone scrolling it takes 10 hours
But your too much of a pussy to do it
You instead spend 3 years posting the same exact thread instead of manning up and just doing it
SAD! Many such cases!

>>24611760
No, give me advice that makes it so that I can follow through on the things I want to write.

>>24611770
I have the same problem. I’m just like you. I constantly feel the need to stick pencils up my nose like pinnochetio.

>>24611770
I did give you real advice. I hope you take it.

>>24611804
No. Give me advice that allows me to follow through on what I want to write.

>>24611813
Well, here’s the thing. There’s no way to start writing until you really get down in the gritty gritty of things. So what I’d recommend to start out, as a piece of advice I could give you as a beginner, is to take a step back. I know your first instinct, hyped up on dopamine, is to write. But first you gotta take a step back. Think. Think for a moment. Think about who you are. Think about what you believe is important. Think about. Think. And then you. Then. Hamburger helper. I cook hamburger helper on the stove. Burning. It smells like burning. Boohoo…..


And that’s how you do it.

I totally get you sister. With this whole… *gestures at everything* going on right now….we need to be tough. I know it can be hard to get started on writing. After all….the orange man is in the House. He who shall not be named….simply has too much power. Sister, we must do what we gotta do to survive. Focus….on you. Health is wealth. Wellness is Swellness. Focus on. That survival and remember….evil never wins. The Right Wing is just a bunch of bigots and fuddy duddies. Once we elect a true queen….like Dave Chapellee….the world will be set right like the bloodbeat of some living thing eviscerate upon the ground before them and they watched the fire which does contain within it something of men themselves inasmuch as they are less without it and are divided from their origins and are exiles. For each fire is all fires, and the first fire and the last ever to be.

>>24611821
But if each fire is all fires and the first fires, where is second fire? Checkmate, penis.

>>24611770
Finish your shitty drawing first, you lazy piece of trash.

>>24611813
>It's yet another "You don't actually like drawing, you just like the idea of it and you should give up because you're experiencing the tiniest bit of difficulty!" post

No, fucktard. I was having trouble because this was the very first time I had EVER done ANYTHING like this in my entire life. This was my very first digital drawing, my very first full on sketch to lineart drawing, my very first full body drawing using construction EVER. So, yes. That's why it took me so damn long to get to this point, because I had never done it before, so of course, it's going to take me longer than that to get any kind of work done. Yes, my ADHD makes it hard for me to focus on getting a sketch done, yes, my ADHD wants me to do other things.

Are you going to give me actual advice or not, now that I've clearly demonstrated that I've got what it takes to draw and use these methods correctly?

>>24611813
I call it garbage. It took you like a week and over 400 posts in your thread just to get that, which would have taken any beginner 5 minutes to do. And the entire time, you whined and moaned about how torturous it was just to get that tiny sketch done. You cried constantly about how impossible it was the entire time.

You seriously need to give up. Honestly, and I have never done this before, you should unironically use AI. Zero skill required, it takes 20 seconds to fart out a prompt and get your image.

Howie will never be banned because 4chan is an advertising site first and foremost. His threads always max out so his presence encourages posting, which means retards are loading ads and making the site money. Howie is a much more valuable asset than you or I, and yes we're all just products at the end of the day.

Yesterday I saw a thread complaining about howie and wanted to post in it today. Imagine my surprise when I couldn't find it, when threads last for weeks here without being bumped. The jannies nuked the thread right away because it was threatening their pay model (make people argue about nothing and solve captchas). So its not that jannies are lazy, they're definitely here patrolling the board, but making a thread talking about how shit /ic/ is and how to get rid of one of their main attractions is grounds for a 3 day ban most likely.

You WILL NOT complain about the lack of drawing on /ic/, you WILL drive traffic to 4chan, you WILL NOT make it and leave this shithole.

>>24611748
I'm not the guy you think I am

Do whatever you did to draw hat kid, even if it's unfinished, it's a drawing

The main thing here is to get you drawing, not drawing good

that will come if you keep drawing

just keep drawing unfinished wips man, doesn't matter if they are bad or unfinshed, just keep drawing, they will get better with time alone, you don't even need to overthink it by processing the shortcomings of your skills, your brain will do that by itself.

>>24611669
Translation: I don't understand your problem and I don't want to put in the effort to listen and understand, so I will just create a strawman where I replace your problem with a more common and easily solved one and paint you as morally deficient to feel better about my lack of ability to give advice and be empathetic. Not only that, but I will gaslight you about your condition and gladly push you over the edge into suicide because your very existence causes me butthurt, as it reminds me of my limited understanding of the world and the human psyche. Please, I need you to either shut up or die, so that I can preserve my simple minded conceptualization of a just world where mental illnesses can be solved with a stabilizer and just trying harder.

>>24611852
trvke

>>24611536 (OP)
>wanted to be creative
>can't produce anything
many such cases

No other artist in the history of the world has ever had ADHD and I am alone and I JUST CAN'T DO IT! I want advice please! I won't just ignore and continue to do nothing It's my ADHD I swear :(

>>24612498
You know I have the same problem as you. I pick my nose every time I try to write and my writing hand is going to have to be amputated because I keep squeezing my elbow and the circulation has completely stopped. The good news is that they might make me a new out of of plaster and magic clay but oh no I’m picking me nose ahain

Anyone else love self-sabotaging morons like this? It’s like they were put on this world to entertain us, and it’s okay to laugh because it’s entirely their fault and they were given numerous warnings and tips on how to avoid their fate. I bet OP will have a hilarious death one day doing something really stupid.

>>24613503
Yes Howie is so comically pathetic that he becomes an almost mythological figure to me, impossible to conceive him performing the smallest chore without all hell breaking loose. Everytime he goes shopping I'm certain he manages to find a way to break something, lose something, and piss somebody off.

>>24613503
They make me feel much better about my feeble, yet tangible creative efforts. I feel like a genius whenever I see someone doomed to such mediocrity.

>>24611536 (OP)
oh stop jerking off

Write webnovels
Youll realize that having an obligation to your one fan is more of a driving factor of habit than anything else.

>>24613513
You think Howie's allowed outside?

>>24611536 (OP)
read this my friend. It will help a little to guide you to greener pastures

>>24613899
I can't focus for more than 20 seconds without getting distracted. I need actual advice, not stupid trolls wasting my time.

>>24611684
why is this slide thread still up? because retarded apes replied?

>>24611536 (OP)
lmao same

>>24611635
>vampire lawyers suing a blood bank
nice. i kek'd

You don't have a problem with being creative. You have a problem with being human. You need serious psychological intervention, possibly including electric shock and lobotomy. Don't come back here until you've explored this avenue thoroughly.

>>24611536 (OP)
Just wake up and do an hour or so first thing in the morning before anything else. Do not use your phone until the hour has gone by.
If your laptop is too much of a distraction hand write it.

>>24611536 (OP)
Bump

>>24611536 (OP)
>role-playing

Found your problem in under one second op

>>24616380
It's sexual roleplaying.

>>24611536 (OP)
Can you write the mundane?
Can you find meaning in life?
If you can find meaning in life, can you demonstrate the relevant connections which that meaning is derived? Is this demonstration so ironclad that you can merely show it and the meaning become apparent?
It is tough.

>>24616367
So did you get the electric shock or the lobotomy? Or are you just wasting our time again?

>>24611536 (OP)
Jesus christ what kind of mentally ill piece of trash would make these threads so many times just to waste the goodwill of people who are actually trying.
Would the world be better if you died?

>>24618380
And what sort of moron would bump this thread right as it was about to die? You're a complete asshat.