Thread 24616319 - /lit/ [Archived: 49 hours ago]

Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:45:15 PM No.24616319
Vatsoc
Vatsoc
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What's his problem?
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:49:07 PM No.24616325
>that nose
he was a reddit nigger
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 6:57:24 PM No.24616341
tenor
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>>24616325
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:08:45 PM No.24616371
>>24616319 (OP)
Those dicks on the god statues
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:38:52 PM No.24616422
He was ugly, that inferiority complex cannot be overcome.
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Anonymous
8/6/2025, 7:49:43 PM No.24616445
le_nieztsche
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>>24616422
>
Anonymous
8/6/2025, 11:45:39 PM No.24617067
daimon
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:29:33 AM No.24617716
>>24616319 (OP)
he doesn't know but wanted desperately to know
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 7:42:06 AM No.24617729
>>24616319 (OP)
He looks like he works at gamestop
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:06:20 AM No.24617829
>>24616319 (OP)
probably fucked young boys. i really, really doubt that he would have been sentenced to death for merely being annoying
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:07:07 AM No.24617831
>>24617829
People hated him because of Alcibiades.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:08:30 AM No.24617833
>>24617831
why?
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:14:08 AM No.24617836
>>24617833
Alcibiades was a student of Socrates and he betrayed Athens and switched sides to Sparta in the Peloponesian war. It probably wasn't actually Socrates' fault but the charge of corrupting the youth mostly meant corrupting Alcibiades. It was not just some abstract thing, there was an actual general that was associated with Socrates and caused great harm to Athens.
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 9:24:42 AM No.24617851
>>24617836
oh wow thanks for clearing that up. yeah that does sound like something one would receive the death penalty for and explain why his students tried to save him
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:49:03 AM No.24617959
>>24616319 (OP)
proto-fedora
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 12:57:31 PM No.24618094
i mean socrates is possessed self examination or something after being interested in natural philosophy the form idea forms was stuff plato might have brought in though after hanging out with pythagoreans or that sort
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 1:05:27 PM No.24618106
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>>24617959
you have a source on this?
Anonymous
8/7/2025, 6:50:02 PM No.24618743
>>24617829
people don't realize that there are entire books of his philosophy devoted to this
some of plato's works are literally gay fanfiction of socrates lmao
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Anonymous
8/7/2025, 10:45:06 PM No.24619294
>>24617829
He was annoying and also working against the plebs and stifling democracy in favor of aristocrats.
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 11:59:10 AM No.24620535
>>24617836
Alcibiades didn't simply "betray Athens". He was being recalled from Sicily to be put on trial for blasphemy (destruction of sacred monuments), at the time of politically motivated anti-Alcibiades sentiment. Athenians went apeshit and executed dozens or even hundreds "suspects", so Alcibiades decided to run away from the ship that was transporting him to Athens (likely towards a similar fate).
Later Alcibiades tried to play both sides and gain policitical power in Athens, he was even granted admiralship (again) by the Athenians.
Losing the Peloponnesian war had an immense negative impact on Athens, so it's only natural that people wanted to have some scapegoats.
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Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:01:05 PM No.24620540
Aparicio_Socrate
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>>24617829
>>24618743
Anonymous
8/8/2025, 12:37:33 PM No.24620601
>>24620535
This, but the other figures >>24617831 leaves out are Phaedrus and Eryximachus (yes, the Phaedrus and Eryximachus that appear in Plato's Protagoras, Phaedrus, and Symposium), who were both implicated in Alcibiades' blaspheming of the Mysteries (and knocking off the dicks of a bunch of Hermes statues lmao), and especially, moreso than Alcibiades, Critias and Charmides, Plato's relatives who were involved in the oligarchy of the Thirty about five years before Socrates' trial. Of two of Socrates' three accusers, Lycon had lost his son to the Thirty, and Anytus had originally been among the moderate oligarchs who were purged by the Thirty, and had joined the democrats in ousting the Thirty from the Piraeus. A set of amnesty laws after the Thirty were overthrown made it illegal to prosecute collaborators of the Thirty, unless they were involved in murdering citizens, so the charges of impiety and corrupting the youth were safe charges against a man who the Athenians suspected was not supportive of the democracy, and who may teach others to view it with contempt.