Thread 24620486

I have never finished a book in my life because i have adhd. Is it possible to read books with adhd? Is it even worth it? Should i try to start reading books? What book should i start with? I usually stop reading any book after 5-10 pages. Any other adhd havers here? Can you read books? Or would i just be better off doing anything else? Because it's so hard. Would i ever be able to enjoy reading a book?

>>24620486 (OP)
Sure you can. ADHD isn't your problem because 5-10 pages a day is plenty to finish even the biggest novels slowly but steadily. Your problem is that you don't stick with it and don't make reading a daily habit, which has nothing to do with ADHD.

>>24620486 (OP)
read short stories little frog. you wouldn't begin your running career with a marathon. and you can find near all of them online for free. most of them are ten to fifteen pages or less.

You're a slave to four letters that didn't exist until a few decades ago. You can read a book. You can become an astrophysicist, a doctor, a reliable friend. Your mind can develop into something you're physically incapable of imagining right now.
You probably won't achieve anything though, because you put faith in the four letters, and your lazy nature is more than happy to be excused from making any meaningful contribution to yourself.

>>24620496
But that would be months to finish a book. I would forget the start before i got to the end. I wanna be able to like read for 4 hours or so a day. Is it literally impossible with adhd?
>>24620503
No i don't want short stories. I wanna read like actually informative books. I'm really into psychology.

>>24620507
It's a real illness you asshole. You wouldn't understand because you have a functioning brain.

>>24620514
Your ADHD is a label some golem has cursed you designed to enrich the amphetamine factories and their Illuminatum overlords. It's partly an environmental response to an increasing fractured and fast-paced world, mostly a fiction. I take it you've been prescribed some overpriced pill and yet you are no better than before. The mind is infinitely malleable. A psychiatrist has no right to tell you what you are.

>>24620486 (OP)
Why would you flex your retardation? This world needs modesty, decorum and shame

>>24620521
This; all my adult ADHD diagnosis got me was an amphetamine psychosis.

>>24620521
No my psychiatrist refuses to give me any ritalin because he's a cock sucker. He wants to treat my other problems first. So i am stuck without any ritalin. So i can't read books. But i wanna read books. Is it possible?

>>24620527
Actually, that's not true, it also exacerbated my computer addiction and made me more socially reclusive and generally schizoid.

>>24620527
I honestly believe you can learn more about yourself through one psychotic episode than a hundred hours of talk-therapy. Was it illuminating in any way ?

>>24620530
You don't realise how based your psychiatrist is, in that case. Everybody and their mother and their dog have been diagnosed with ADHD these days. It's an environmental response. Slowly wean yourself off short-form videos and porn. Concentration is a form of prayer, as my boo Simone Weil says. One's attention span is more important than your eyes, your ears, and your entire accumulated bodily functions. Prioritise it. When it's strong you will mog ninety-nine percent of your peers in every pursuit.

>>24620543
I'm not gonna take you seriously if you're gonna keep pretending adhd isn't real.

>>24620549
You need to understand that humans are most made. If you took two twins of absolute genetic identicality and placed on into a monastery and raised the other on an Ipad that only one of those boys would be diagnosed with ADHD. Why come here for desperate for advice if you only seek to defend yourself with pathetic excuses. We already are cursed with Howie.

>>24620556
You cock sucker i had these problems before i even owned a phone or a pc, you don't know what you're talking about, you're nor a licensed professional, you have no education, you have no personal experiences, you just like to pretend every illness is caused by the self and it can be cured by the self and you're a better person than everybody for not having any mental illnesses. Your shitty attempt at helping me is you feeding your ego. Go away.

>>24620514
>No i don't want short stories. I wanna read like actually informative books. I'm really into psychology.
Then just start with short stories bro. 'Train' reading with them and just start to get better. Its hurtful to stop books in the middle. At least you are able to finish short stories and have a little feeling of success. Build from there and slowly start reading bigger books.

>>24620530
Based psychiatrist.
Once knew a person that was pretty normal and all. Not the stupidest nor the smartest. But average. After she was diagnosed with ADHD and took Ritalin her life fucking fell hard. You may concentrate, but your hormones get fucked.
Please tell me that you are at least very physically active and have a good diet to increase your concentration in a natural way. Don't fall into the victim mentality.

>>24620486 (OP)
Don't listen to the tards ITT. Stimulants can save your life. Caffeine has fucked me up way more than any stimulant ever has.

>>24620496

Facts

>>24620594
Yeah. But i can't get them. I'm gonna give it a few more months and if he still doesn't prescribe it i'm gonna buy it illegally probably. But i wanna try to start reading in the meantime. I'm gonna try to find some interesting psychology book and start with that. Open to recommendations too.

I have ADHD. It's probably not as bad as yours, but I can give some half-meaningless advice. You know that 1-5 week period that you get, once in a while, where a single interest completely consumes you? I'm not saying you can "induce" that, but I find that shutting down my computer and /forcing/ myself to do a thing—without any thought at all, right now—is how I generally get to it.

I have a little apothegm for this, something like "of urge and will, inspect only the former, and act on the latter freely;" it's important that whatever you intellectually wish to do, you give no thought at all. No room for decision paralysis. If you get a pang of guilt or "should I do that instead," no, shut it down and get to the first as best you can, and as quickly as you can.

That's about it. Doesn't really work all that well, but I'm getting much better at reading regularly, these days. I don't just stop for months, anymore. For me, the difficulty is generally the starting, not the sustaining.

>>24620486 (OP)
Do yourself a favor and get an ereader and make the text ridiculously big like you're larping a grandma with cataracts. Your eyes can't jump all over the page and constantly lose track if you're just reading a few sentences at a time. It's not as easy or physically stimming to randomly flip around backwards and forwards. And there's a little % completion progress bar make number go up for that videogamey progression dopamine feel. Important: don't get an android e-reader, you need that bitch to be as barebones and distraction free as possible.

I still have issues and start way more books than I finish (which holding a single physical book admittedly does prevent) but I went from finishing a book a handful of times a decade to multiple times a month this way.

If you are just starting to develop your reading skills, skip the notion of diving into wordy classics. Start with stuff like children's lit or short horror stories or whatever, there's plenty of quality stuff. If you're not practiced at immersing yourself into a world through text or hanging onto the thread of a written plot, you can start by reading books that your favorite movies are based on as a sort of training wheels crutch.

Having a shit brain sucks, wish my mom didn't smoke while I was in the womb, but you are still a human capable of solving problems and finding solutions that work for you. Good luck.

Maybe try audiobooks

ADHD isn't real.

>>24620486 (OP)
I also have ADHD and used it to read many books this past month.

Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption, The Mist, The Great Gatsby, Story of the Eye, My Year of Rest and Relaxation, Notes from the Underground, The Sun Also Rises, Inferno, The Elementary Particles, Stoner, The Picture of Dorian Gray

I used an AI audiobook generator to help me stay on track as I found my brain wandering and trying to get dopamine from e.g. 4chan or video games.

https://github.com/DrewThomasson/ebook2audiobook

>>24621080
Anon. Did you read these with your eyes, or did you listen to these with your ears. The difference is as vast as the Pacific ocean.

>>24621091

> I agree that two times two makes four is an excellent thing; but if we are dispensing praise, then two times two makes five is sometimes a most charming little thing as well.

>>24620486 (OP)
No its no possible to read a book with ADHD. I'm sorry you have such an affliction, common in the retard masses. Literary content just isn't for you, but luckily tiktok and YouTube exist to keep you out of trouble

>>24620539
OH, absolutely; I did unravel a lot of really fucked up family trauma and projected it onto a bunch of classical, modern, and post-modern narratives, their fanfics, as well as religious, philosophical, and a smattering of near-arbitrary math and physics, and I can proudly claim that I am now definitely at least vaguely schizoid, if not borderline schizophrenic.

I am starting to learn to cope with that and even handle it reasonable as well though, so overall I would call it a success.

>>24620517
Your kind are hopeless, you always hide behind your diagnostic and won't do shit no matter the arguments in favor. Stay miserable and ask for advice you won't act on every full moon, be my guest. Miserable bunch, lazy, just lazy.

>>24620517
You could also have a functioning brain if you stop taking amphetamines

>>24621449
I NEVER TOOK THEM!! thats the problem. I need them but i can't get them. I would function if i got them.

>>24621459
>I need them
Sure you do junkie

>>24620514
>But that would be months to finish a book. I would forget the start before i got to the end. I wanna be able to like read for 4 hours or so a day. Is it literally impossible with adhd?

Again, what does that have to do with ADHD? You have a short attention span, that doesn't mean you can't consistently do an activity for a short period of time, as long as your attention holds up each day. Like does your ADHD make it impossible for you to watch TV shows for example? You watch a TV show over several weeks or months and you still remember what it is about and what happened last season even after a year long break from it. This idea that you'd lose track of what is going on in a book if you read it slowly is not true at all. If anything, reading a book slowly over many weeks will help with information retention because if you read 1 chapter a day, it stays in your mind much longer than if you read 10 chapters a day, which will all blend together if read in one session.

>>24621475
>You watch a TV show over several weeks or months and you still remember what it is about and what happened
But i don't... i will watch them for 12 hours a day and finish in less than a week or i start forgetting all the characters and everything that happened in the earlier seasons.

>>24620486 (OP)
yeah just stick to videos

>>24620486 (OP)
you need a solid time block committed to it, not just vague time where you do whatever. set an alarm for 15 minutes, sit down and read until the alarm. be patient and return your attention whenever you notice your mind wandering.
you can then set an alarm for a 5 minute break, then another 15 minutes of reading, etc.

>>24621091
I listen with my eyes, and read with my ears. I shoulder my nose to the burden of the grindstone. My feet are in the sky, and my head on the ground. Truly, I am false.

>>24620517
ADHD is completely fake. I was told I had it but the instant I became an adult I stopped taking the zombie pills and nothing bad happened. The reason you can't focus on things is because you spend all day on the internet. Put your phone and laptop away in a drawer and sit in a comfy chair with a book for twenty minutes a day and you'll get through it just fine.

>>24621994
You're a moron. Childhood adhd is different than adult adhd and it can disappear when the child grows up. If it doesn't disappear by adulthood then it's permanent.

>>24621532
>i will watch them for 12 hours a day and finish in less than a week
Then you don't have ADHD, you just don't like reading.

>>24620486 (OP)
>because i have adhd
Keep telling yourself that instead of perservering. Stay retarded.

>>24620486 (OP)
This book was written by doctors with ADHD for readers with ADHD:
>CHAPTER 1
>THE SKINNY ON ADD: READ THIS IF YOU CAN’T READ THE WHOLE BOOK
>Most people who have ADD don’t read books all the way through. It’s not because they don’t want to; it’s because reading entire books is very difficult—sort of like singing an entire song in just one breath.
>We want to make this book accessible to people who don’t read books all the way through. For those people, our most dear and treasured brothers and sisters in ADD, we offer this first chapter, set off from the rest of the book. Reading this will give you a good idea of what ADD is all about. If you want to learn more, ask someone who loves you to read the whole book and tell you about it. Or you can listen to it on a tape or CD.
>We offer this chapter in the ADD-friendly format of Q&A. You can get the skinny on ADD in these thirty questions and answers. For more detail and research-based answers, you can refer to the chapters of particular interest.

I have ADHD and I love to read, but sometimes I struggle to make it through a paragraph and other times I can read a whole book in one sitting. The ADHD brain is prone to attention variability--that is to say, not only are you likely to struggle with a lack of focus, but at times you probably fall into states of hyperfocus. Well-managed ADHD allows for less of the former and more control over the latter.

>>24623018
Ia this book actually helpful? Should i read it as my first book? I had ordered behave by robert sapolsky just 5 minutes ago to be my first book because it looked pretty interesting but i can get this too i guess. Will reading this book make reading others easier?

>>24623038
Are you Howie ?

>>24623039
i'm only a howie on /ic/ i never posted on this board before.

>>24623038
>Ia this book actually helpful?
Parts of it will likely be helpful. Not every case of ADHD is the same so parts will also be irrelevant to your personal situation.
>Should i read it as my first book?
Sure.
>I had ordered behave by robert sapolsky just 5 minutes ago to be my first book because it looked pretty interesting
I'm not familiar with that book but if it looks interesting you should read it.
>Will reading this book make reading others easier?
If you've never seriously engaged with your ADHD before this will probably help with that and therefore make reading other books easier.

If you're not getting daily exercise you should change that. It's important for everyone but particularly important if you have ADHD.

>>24623055
>If you've never seriously engaged with your ADHD before this will probably help with that and therefore make reading other books easier.
yeah i never have.
>If you're not getting daily exercise you should change that. It's important for everyone but particularly important if you have ADHD.
i'm not, how does it help exactly? i used to work out daily but didn't feel it helping honestly, i just felt too tired to do anything for the rest of the day.

>>24623059
>how does it help exactly?
Exact mechanism is debated but it shows similar efficacy to medication. Dr. John Ratey, co-author of "Delivered from Distraction," began his career working with formerly high-functioning patients--MIT professors, entrepreneurs, and the like--who had developed crippling symptoms of ADHD, bipolar, and/or depression for the first time in their lives after injuring themselves pushing their limits training for or competing in the Boston Marathon and being unable to run regularly for the first time in their lives. This sent Dr. Ratey down a rabbit hole researching the link between physical exercise and cognitive function but he's far from the first or most recent researcher of the subject (physical exercise was prescribed for mental health in antiquity).
>i just felt too tired to do anything for the rest of the day
Barring some unusual health condition this is probably an issue of nutrition and possibly rest. It's also worth mentioning that getting into shape is more taxing than staying in shape. What kind of training were you doing, and for how long?

>>24623129
oh that's pretty interesting.
>What kind of training were you doing, and for how long?
i was usually just doing calisthenics or some dumbbell lifts at home for about an hour a day, i did it for around 6 months i think.

>>24623134
go for a walk lil nigga.

>>24623134
Nah, don't listen to him, your ADHD cannot be fixed, it's your destiny. Don't even try it.

>>24623284
I wanna try i think

>>24620486 (OP)
What CAN people with ADHD do?

>>24624007
go sicko mode on a hyperfixation for a few weeks

>>24624007
take Adderall or Ritalin

>>24623134
I'm a huge advocate of strength training but I get the most immediately perceptible cognitive clarity benefit out of cardio. I particularly enjoy combat sports and hiking or trail running. If you can find an interest and motivation beyond movement as medicine it will likely make it more fun and it will take less mental effort to make a habit of it. Make sure you eat enough to support your activity level, get enough sleep, and get enough recovery time in between training sessions.

tl;dr: basically >>24623166

Retarded person. Will yourself to read the book.

>>24620486 (OP)
Trust me if you can read 10 pages a day you read more than 80% of the board

>>24624206
Alright i'll try to get some exercise.
>>24626147
But i wanna read like 4 hours a day ideally, anything less seems not even worth it.