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Anonymous No.24628757 [Report] >>24628769 >>24628775 >>24628795 >>24628804 >>24628812 >>24629185 >>24629219
>Bro check out this dystopian sci-fi novel. In this world, all of humanity lives in a giant skyscraper like 10 miles tall! All the rich people live at the top and wear gold uniforms, and they have robotic servants and super-healthcare that makes them live forever and be super attractive. But at very bottom, that's where all the poor people live, they all wear black uniforms and it's their job to deal with all the sewage and waste from the upper levels. The main character is a teenage girl from the bottom level but she has a love interest from the top level then together they start a rebellion. IT'S SOCIAL COMMENTARY! DID YOU GET THAT PART? RICH PEOPLE ARE LE BAD! INEQUALITY IS LE BAD! WAS THAT TOO SUBTLE FOR YOU? IT'S SO RELEVANT TO OUR TIMES IT'S SCARY!
Anonymous No.24628769 [Report]
>>24628757 (OP)
Its kino
Anonymous No.24628775 [Report]
>>24628757 (OP)
It will continue getting continuously more and more blatant, loud and obnoxious because you somehow keep failing to grasp it.
Anonymous No.24628795 [Report]
>>24628757 (OP)
Just because YA slop is shit doesnt mean is wrong in this very basic thing that even a blind man can see.
Anonymous No.24628804 [Report] >>24628814 >>24628820 >>24630968
>>24628757 (OP)
Notice how the "commentary" (brainwashing) also applies to beauty and competence. Don't just eat the rich, eat the capable.
>It's hecking inequality that some people are competent while I'm a useless retard.
Anonymous No.24628810 [Report]
Economic inequality is bad though, from both a cheistian moral standpoint, and from a purely self serving one, given that increased inequality usually breeds socio political instability which is bad for everyone
Anonymous No.24628812 [Report] >>24628825 >>24628829
>>24628757 (OP)
I am the Captain of the Guard who is driven by honor and duty despite his humble origins to put down the rebellion. I was the childhood friend of the female lead's highborn love interest, and I am the last barrier between him and decadent nobiltiy they seek to overthrow.

He tells me that those degenerates have never earned my loyalty, and I tell him that they don't have to earn my loyalty, it was secured the instant I gave swore my life to defend them, and I would rather perish in agony a thousand times than betray my word.

And then I die in a dramatic sword duel and entire generations of teenage girls cry and ship me and my killer as gay lovers because they're incapable of understanding masculine honor.
Anonymous No.24628814 [Report] >>24628830
>>24628804
>Notice how the "commentary" (brainwashing) also applies to beauty and competence.
I don't notice that. The YA protagonists are universally extremely supremely ultra-competent at absolutely everything they do, to the point of overtaking their mentors by a massive margin in minimal time, and also extremely attractive too, if held back in the first acts by issues that boil down to a lack of confidence.
Anonymous No.24628820 [Report]
>>24628804
And in the film version the bottom level people are very diverse while the top level is almost all white maybe except for a few asians.
Anonymous No.24628825 [Report] >>24628834
>>24628812
>it was secured the instant I gave swore my life to defend them
Anon you specifically describe how your character is not that of a human but essentially that of a sentient object to be used and discarded as a tool, and then you act surprised when fujos find satisfaction in "fixing" you by giving you over to the protagonist who, thanks to his noble soul, uses you (as a cocksleeve) gently and lovingly, instead of callously, thus respecting your own nature and path but having them applied in a nurturing and healing way instead of the destructive one they were previously set to. Also hot emotional twink sex.

It's so fucking simple and obvious, what is there to understand even?
Anonymous No.24628829 [Report] >>24628840
>>24628812
I am the Villain's Scheming Wife whom the reader is made to slowly resent for my weakness and complicity, until the final confrontation when I decide to BETRAY my husband (whom I married in a kind of forced-marriage) to aid the young, beautiful, infinitely capable MC (whom I tell 'you remind me of a little girl I once knew' -- myself), before plunging to my death from some arbitrary contrivance of plot. Young girls around the world mourn my passing. I did not consent to be used as a plot puppet. I was once a real person. I've lived thousands of these lives.
Anonymous No.24628830 [Report] >>24628835
>>24628814
>lack of confidence
That's the idea, the only reason you're not rich, beautiful and ultra competent is because you don't believe in yourself, mostly due to oppressive social norms and the bad guys keeping you down through calling you names.
The beautiful, white and competent protagonist who never goes hungry is still the self-insert of the beastly, black and incapable poor person.
Anonymous No.24628834 [Report]
>>24628825
Is it really surprise if I include it in the job description? If I can stoically accept my death for masters who do not value my life, I can also stoically accept women imagining me getting railed by my killer. It adds to the Karmic indignity of my death which will propel me to high station in the next life.
Anonymous No.24628835 [Report] >>24628842
>>24628830
>The beautiful, white and competent protagonist who never goes hungry is still the self-insert of the beastly, black and incapable poor person.
But anon 98% of all published YA fiction is written by white females from upper middle-class families with Ivy League degrees and familial connections in the publishing industry. Quintessential one percenters.
Anonymous No.24628840 [Report]
>>24628829
Ah, a fellow prisoner in Genre Samsara. May your next cycle be protagonist's loyal friend who emerges unscathed after the plot to tell the tale to others.
Anonymous No.24628842 [Report] >>24628847 >>24629113
>>24628835
"Women are niggers" -Hippy man
They draw on experiences of being oppressed as women to represent all oppressed, marginalized groups except the really marginalized ones like gamers. The rich white woman knows the horror of being seduced by a rich man into relying on him for the lifestyle she's become accustomed. In a fair world without oppression everyone could afford the bag she only bought specifically because it's expensive.
Anonymous No.24628847 [Report] >>24629097
>>24628842
If white women are niggers then why are they so omnipresent among the wealthy and influential of our society?
Anonymous No.24629097 [Report] >>24629124
>>24628847
That's the point Anon. They're the most privileged class, and these sorts of stories are their own self-aggrandizing masturbatory fiction.
Anonymous No.24629113 [Report] >>24629573
>>24628842
>gamers
>marginalized
Having leisure time is a quality only of the super rich
Anonymous No.24629124 [Report] >>24630290
>>24629097
But wouldn't that mean that this self-aggrandizing masturbatory fiction is actually true, and they in fact masturbate to the dream of their own dull and soulless supremacy being torn down by more authentic, vitalist (and also sensually racemixing) versions of themselves?

Like, they have firsthand experience of how their ivory tower is shit and everyone in it is shit, so they daydream about how they'd have superpowers and a gang of loyal friends and a harem of two to five tall hot chiseled gothic and/or ethnic guys to choose from and use it all to destroy the gay-ass biscuit middleclass world
Anonymous No.24629185 [Report]
>>24628757 (OP)
>RICH PEOPLE ARE LE BAD!
This is objectively true.
Anonymous No.24629219 [Report]
>>24628757 (OP)
is this high rise? it's from 1975, idk how that's relevant to today
Anonymous No.24629573 [Report]
>>24629113
Blows my mind every time that there are actual people this braindead out there posting.
You can't be marginalized or oppressed if you're rich? I guess money just literally solves everything.
Anonymous No.24630290 [Report]
>>24629124
Well, it isn't true. For one thing, it's immensely sheltered and naive, not born out of any real understanding of their own society and their role in it. Women are notorious for failing to understand how much of a luxury their luxury beliefs actually are, they transpose mentally the privilege afforded them in the halls of civilization as the way everyone naturally treats women.

White women hating their fathers and then joining shitcolors has about a 5% chance in resulting in anything other than rape and murder. The reality of this kind of fantasizing is--if you like a story--the fate of the abolitionists in Haiti, or any of a thousand sheltered European girls being raped and beheaded in Morocco or Turkey or whatever.

It is sort of like an upper middle class white man imagining a nuclear war and social collapse, and fantasizing about becoming the warlord of a tribe of post-apocalyptic barbarians riding around on dune buggies looting the old world--when the vastly more likely outcome is a slow death by starvation, radiation poisoning, or being shot by Jesse Plemons.
Anonymous No.24630968 [Report]
>>24628804
This is only recent sci fi. I listened to a clarksworld episode that literally read like a mentally disabled tween wrote it.
Anonymous No.24630974 [Report] >>24631015
>human nature is dystopian
So what's the solution? Transhumanism or omnicide?
Anonymous No.24631015 [Report]
>>24630974
Well that is the question, isn't it, and you can tell a lot about people by how they react to this. A certain phylum of people deny that human nature exists at all, demands massive destructive structural changes to civilization to try and make reality match the invented paradise in their head.

These sort of people should be killed. The correct answer is to file the fact next things like gravity of thermodynamics.
Anonymous No.24632230 [Report]
>OP mocking the execution of a metaphor
>Thread discusses the metaphor