Thread 24631155

>No woman could have been Nietzsche or Rimbaud without ending up in a whorehouse or lobotomized.

Was she right?

>>24631155 (OP)
>No woman could have been Nietzsche or Rimbaud
She's right about that part.

>>24631155 (OP)
Ah yes, Nietzsche, the noted lothario.

>>24631155 (OP)
She's write. They would have been fucking icepicked and drugged to Xanadu.

>>24631155 (OP)
The trouble is that men and women in their most primal states are fundamentally unfair and unjust to each other. Left to their own devices both sexes will naturally despise each other.

Something has got to give for the sake of healthy relationships and the survival of the species. Women need to forgive some of men's faults and men need to forgive some of women's. Absolute feminists like Dworkin are unironically poisonous to the long-term survival of the human species and so they need to be silenced. Just like the weird manosphere types we have these days for men.

>>24631155 (OP)
>Nietzsche or Rimbaud
These two fags SHOULD have been lobotomized.

>>24631155 (OP)
But de Beauvoir already was a Neech with a cunt and did not end up in a whorehouse or lobotomized.

>>24631155 (OP)
>Dworkin said

stopped reading right there.

>>24631155 (OP)
Andrea Dworkin was a fat, ugly, obese, obscene, arrogant, ex-hooker, quasi-lesbian, and Jewish nutter that we shouldn’t listen to!

>>24631155 (OP)
>obese jewish woman says something
>/lit/: has she got a point???

>>24631155 (OP)
why would an intellectually oriented woman end up in a whorehouse? doesn't really make sense
>>24631652
>ex-hooker
ah, that explains it - it's simply a projection of her image of herself as an intellectual and her own personal struggles/failures in life

I guess the logic is that Nietzsche would have been married then, and so the husband would institutionalize him if he were a woman? Because otherwise I dont understand why Nietzsche couldn't just live alone secluded in a cabin as he did throughout most of his life.

Unless her answer is to imply that theres something fundamental about womens nature that precludes them from such.

Its not like Nietzsche had money, im pretty sure he was broke (he was also effectively disabled) so unless how Nietzsche made his money is impossible or unlikely for a woman. I dont see how anything would change unless we appeal to a presumed nature of woman.

>>24631219
The thing is, one is taken seriously by academia the other is not so it creates a weird power imbalance.

>>24631665
>Unless her answer is to imply that theres something fundamental about womens nature that precludes them from such.
You're bound to upset someone by making that suggestion

>>24631219
You haven't read any of her works. This is the problem with /lit/, it's just a bunch of charlatans commenting on writers they've never read

100% right and anyone saying no are the ones who would have lobotomised her

>>24631652
Now with that out of the way, what do you think of her claim?

>>24631680
>You haven't read any of her works
nobody knows that bitch outside of your shithole brother
meanwhile you’ve probably never read a lick of rimbaud in french
the idea of french women producing a great poet is far fetched though, as time has proved, so there’s nothing to discuss here
could she read german?

>>24631155 (OP)
>The parent-child relationship is primarily erotic because all humanrelationships are primarily erotic. The incest taboo is a particularizedform of repression, one which functions as the bulwark of all otherrepressions. The incest taboo ensures that however free we become, wenever become genuinely free. The incest taboo, because it denies usessential fulfillment with the parents whom we love with our primaryenergy, forces us to internalize those parents and constantly seek them… The incest taboo does the worst work of the culture: it teaches us the mechanisms of repressing and internalizing erotic feeling — it forces us to develop those mechanisms in the first place; it forces us to particularize sexual feeling, so that it congeals into a need for a particular sexual “object”; it demands that we place the nuclear family above the human family. The destruction of the incest taboo is essential to the development of cooperative human community based on the free-flow of natural androgynous eroticism
— Andrea Dworkin

>As for children, they too are erotic beings, closer to androgyny thanthe adults who oppress them. Children are fully capable of participatingin community, and have every right to live out their own erotic impulses
— Andrea Dworkin

>Primary bestiality (fucking between people and other animals) is found in all nonindustrial societies. Secondary bestiality (generalized erotic relationships between people and other animals) is found everywhere on the planet, on every city street, in every rural town. Bestiality is an erotic reality, one which clearly place people in nature, not above it
— Andrea Dworkin

>Needless to say, in androgynous community, human and other-animal relationships would become more explicitly erotic, and that eroticism would not degenerate into abuse. Animals would be part of the tribe and, with us, respected, loved, and free
— Andrea Dworkin

>In Scapegoat, Dworkin compared the oppression of women to the persecution of Jews,[1] discussed the sexual politics of Jewish identity and antisemitism, and called for the establishment of a women's homeland as a response to the oppression of women, just as the Zionist movement had established a state for Jews.[2][3][4]

You're right, there could never be a woman Nietzsche. Resentment is too powerful a emotion in most women for them to ever see themselves and others clearly.

>>24632073
Sorry for the shit formatting. Most of the quotes are from her book Woman Hating

>>24632073
Her thinking is ambitious, certainly, and it's trajectory takes her alluringly close to Planet Basedi, but the lack of nuance and obvious projection causes her to plummet back to earth, a corpulent comet, re-entering the atmosphere at immense speed, carrying an immense weight, and burning up completely before she hits the ground.

>>24631690
Her claim is retarded.

Women go on grandios schizo rants 24/7 and not only are they not punished or chastised, most of the time in return they get sympathy.

>>24631665
>Unless her answer is to imply that theres something fundamental about womens nature that precludes them from such

No, its way more retarded than that.

She’s suggesting that a woman would never have been permitted to publicly voice the kind of fervent philosophical musings Nietzsche did, because she would have been dismissed as insane and put in an institution.

must be some crazy cosmic coincidence that every radfem """philosopher""" looked disgusting

totally not the root cause of their ideology

>>24631652
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>>24631665
If Nietsche was born into a woman's body he would have been mistreated but not because he was revolutionary but because he was promiscuous. Some sexually degenerate guy would have killed him like Jack the Ripper's victims

>>24632073
The relationship between gender politics and antisemitism is pretty weird and has a unique history, but the rest is just evil.
Why is it that so many feminist philosophers are paedos?
>Simone de Baouver
>Marion Zimmer Bradley
>Camille Paglia

>>24631209
they would've been fucking benzoed to beijing

>>24631155 (OP)
Right Wing Women is one of the best cultural critiques of all time. /lit/sexists can seethe and cry and jerk off alone about it. Dworkin was smarter than anyone on this board

>>24632112
>because she would have been dismissed as insane and put in an institution.
Makes no sense. People are typically only institutionalized by family, or relationships. If shes living mostly alone like Nietzsche I dont understand why anyone would give a fuck? Nietzsche was already not particularly popular during most of his major writings.

I've ended up in my share of Drive-Thrus, maybe I'm male-Dworkin.

>>24633069
Dworkin was a social outcast and all of them have something interesting to say. She hated dudes but she went through some gnarly things at the hands of men and incels hate women for less. However I can't forgive her paedophilic claims here >>24632073 because they are bogus. I didn't feel any sexual feelings when I was a young child. Any hideously ugly person who projects that shit onto children is probably a paedophile into little boys

>>24633076
Nietzsche's sister took care of him when he was mentally ill and did not send him to the hospital, but there were a lot of women artists who were sadly institutionalized by their male siblings It was a way of getting rid and women are more likely to be care-givers to sick relatives in general

>>24633095
>but there were a lot of women artists who were sadly institutionalized by their male siblings
I don't remotely deny that. Frankly the misogyny back then was honestly kind of crazy, no idea what women did to develop that sort of treatment, even if you view women as less intelligent or stronger, even children werent treated like that.

But again, Nietzsche is different. Nietzsche lived mostly alone, and was only taken care of by his sister much later when his disability was getting unbearable. And even then if he was born a woman hed have a sister, which I find hard to believe would institutionalize him, especially because of how seemingly obsessed she was with taking care of Nietzsche herself.

"Crazed" philosophers like Nietzsche would either be on their own and have nobody to institutionalize them. Or if they somehow were still with family, theyd get fucked I guess.

Also Psychology hadnt even come into its own at Nietzsche's time had it? I dont even know if institutions like that existed but whatever.

>>24633118
Mental hospitals were there as early as the 1600s and were often very horrific.
I personally also think the sister would have taken care of Nietzche if he was born a girl
That being said Nietzche was highly promiscuous and was suspected of having STDs
It's likely if he was a woman relatives would be greatly ashamed of her and something would be done about her quick to hide her away
> Frankly the misogyny back then was honestly kind of crazy, no idea what women did to develop that sort of treatment
It was a financial issue when they were dependants on the family. While they were physically healthy and could take care of the kids plus keep the house clean they would be tolerated but the moment they get sick they felt like a useless burden on their families, so less scrupulous men would try to get rid of them in various horrific ways.
There's a reason feminists wanted jobs outside the house so much, considering how cushy it seems not to work
Almost every older lady recommends her daughter to have a source of money that is not husband or brother related

>>24633139
>Mental hospitals were there as early as the 1600s and were often very horrific.
If you were poor. If you were rich you went to a peaceful sanatorium in a healthy climate to read and play music and paint and relax.

>>24633144
Partially true. Wealthier patients were sometimes also treated like shit because mental illness was seen as a moral problem rather than as something you were victim of

August Strindberg was mortally terrified that he would be lobotomized because of people with female genitals conspiring against him all of his life. Joyce would have been lobotomized if it wasn't for men like Jung and Bennet Cerf stepping in to save him. Terry A Davis was lobotomized by a train shortly after his mother came to fear his awesome drumming power. They can't stand men who use their genius for anything besides pasting the hens. It's only because Rimbaud shunned people with female genitals and that Nietzsche had a valkyrie chaddess of a sister protecting him from the mundane people with female genitals that these men were NOT lobotomized. A man's brain surely can't last long in the presence of people with female genitals. I'm not surprised to hear that they treat each other like crabs in a bucket to snuff out rising stars of the female sex as well. Maybe if Dworfkin owned a mirror she would see that she was the thing she hated most all along.

>>24633155
It's politically incorrect but normie women in specific instinctively loathe aspies

>>24633163
it's not like men are any better

>>24633155
So sounds like it wasn't a woman thing, just an "any weird dude or gal" thing?

>>24633163
>>24633188
True. We should estabilish an aspie's homeland as a response to the oppression of aspies just like the Jews with Israel.

Those quotes come from Andrea Dworkin’s more radical and utopian writing, and without the surrounding context they can sound like endorsements of literal acts she wasn’t actually promoting in a straightforward way. She was working within a specific current of 1970s radical feminist and liberationist theory, one that borrowed from psychoanalysis, Wilhelm Reich, and Herbert Marcuse. In that intellectual climate, the word erotic was often used to mean a broad, vital energy of human connection—physical, emotional, and spiritual—rather than sexual intercourse.

When Dworkin writes about the incest taboo, she’s not telling people to go out and have sex with their parents. She’s describing the taboo as the first and most fundamental cultural mechanism of repression in a child’s life. Her argument is that when children are forced to suppress their earliest, most intense affectionate bonds, society teaches them to repress intimacy in general. Those feelings get internalized and redirected into narrow, possessive relationships like those sanctioned by the nuclear family. When she says the incest taboo should be “destroyed,” she means dismantling the mental and cultural machinery of repression—not committing incest.

The line about children being “erotic beings” follows the same pattern. She’s using “erotic” in that broad, Reichian sense to describe the natural vitality, curiosity, and physical closeness children express before adult authority constrains it. In her view, society’s rules turn this vitality into something controlled and channeled, stripping it of its communal and androgynous character. The language is deliberately provocative, but also dangerously easy to misread as sexualization of children, which is why it’s been a flashpoint for criticism.

The bestiality passages are even more provocative, but the underlying argument is symbolic. She’s trying to erase the strict human–animal hierarchy and describe all beings as part of a shared, respectful natural community. She uses anthropological terms like “primary” and “secondary” bestiality to note their existence in human cultures, but her utopian vision is of non-abusive, mutual presence, not exploitation. Still, her choice to frame it in explicitly “erotic” terms was bound to invite controversy.

Even in Scapegoat, where she compares the oppression of women to the persecution of Jews, Dworkin’s aim was to push political imagination to its limits. Her suggestion of a women’s homeland was intended as a feminist parallel to Zionism—a thought experiment about political sovereignty for women—not a concrete program.

Put together, these quotes show Dworkin pushing the “erotic as life force” idea as far as she could take it, challenging almost every boundary Western society takes for granted. Whether one sees this as visionary or reckless depends on how much one accepts the 1970s liberationist framework she was working in, and how much weight given to her choice of words versus her words in context

>>24633472
meant for>>24632073

>>24631155 (OP)
I dunno.
In this day and age women now have more rights than ever and even have an advantage over men, but you never see them publishing works that challenge the status quo like those did. But on the other hand, nowadays it's impossible to challenge the narrative, man or woman, without being canceled by either the public and the industry.

>>24631155 (OP)
Yes, where she's wrong is in claiming this was a bad thing.

>>24632093
>a corpulent comet
lmao

>>24633472
what chatgpt version are you using?

>>24632073
>Primary bestiality (fucking between people and other animals) is found in all nonindustrial societies. Secondary bestiality (generalized erotic relationships between people and other animals) is found everywhere on the planet, on every city street, in every rural town. Bestiality is an erotic reality, one which clearly place people in nature, not above it
This is a 100% true though, if you really want to reject modernity and return to tradition you need to bring back the time honoured custom of shepherds fucking goats

>>24631219
>most primal states
Meaning what, exactly? In healthy societies men and women tend to get along.

>>24632073
This is what you get when the descendants of Hasidic gutter jews get into secular academia.

>>24633472
>(fucking between people and other animals)
>uhhh actually she meant it symbolically
Total Robot Death

>>24631155 (OP)
If Nietzsche be a woman, what then?

>>24633472
Out of curiosity, why does she use erotic instead of libidinal

fuck, marry, kill:
prime dworkin, 40yo heart, rosanne (any era)

>>24633472
This

>>24633472
Sybau, you clanker loving fucking generate. At least get rid of the dashes.

As a male, the only feminist i like to read is DworKING. She doesn't beat around the bush like the other feminists and just tells it like it is.

>>24633401
Id be for but how are we going to reproduce?

>>24631674
Feminist thought is largely in decline because of how much of a bad rap it caught over the #MeToo era. A lot of the more reasonable card carrying feminists jumped ship to just label themselves as being generally left-wing.

Manosphere thought hasn’t filled the void it left however due to the fact that it’s largely seen as a joke whose main advocates are very transparent con artists. No one with a brain is going to look at Andrew Tate and take anything he says seriously.

>>24633472
The thing is that, as a man, I feel Dworkin is actually right about a lot of things. There are alot of men who are genuinely scum, and the male/female dynamics in society are fucked.

That said, I don’t know how you’d fix that. The core root of the issue is that it all comes down to people wanting to be laid. There’s always going to be tension between the two sexes as long as women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the seekers. The entire incel phenomenon is a product of men needing to get laid as a means of attaining self-worth since society keeps telling men that they’re worth nothing if they’re a virgin.

In a way, I wish more men embraced the feminist principle of looking to challenge the expectations society places on men, because feminists are absolutely right that these patriarchal standards harm men.

>>24634820
>A lot of the more reasonable card carrying feminists jumped ship to just label themselves as being generally left-wing
Idk I see random women and girls gratuitously labeling themselves feminists, their movement is very strong.

>>24634919
Most just mean that it sense of “I like actually having rights”. They likely don’t engage with academic feminism that deeply.

>>24634937
But they shouldn't have rights because it destroys society when they do

>>24634820
True but we need ones that are deep into theory instead of being money grubbing grifters

>>24634820
>as a man, I feel Dworkin is actually right
post pecs

>>24634820
>since society keeps telling men that they’re worth nothing if they’re a virgin.
Who is this society that autists always mention? The police? Your teachers? It seems like you are ruled by movies like "American Pie" and "the Forty year old Virgin". I personally have never had anyone attack my religious lifestyle.
>>24634954
It destroys shit equally when they don't. I doubt many of you want to live under the Taliban. I know I wouldn't

>>24633401
That's already Israel too. Jews are overwhelmingly aspie

>>24635387
>I doubt many of you want to live under the Taliban.
You know that women are basically the heads of the family in every Muslim country right?

>>24635432
Holy kek, its a troon Muslim
>We cover them up because they are valuable jewels
>The woman is in charge of the home
>Never mind that she can't leave it
I hate you dishonest bitches so much.

>>24633472
If I say that I am repulsed by women, but I claim that my definition of repulsed is adore, did I make no misogynist statement?

>>24631155 (OP)
No

>>24635390
so? antisemitic ones need their own place too.

>>24634820
>we live in a patriarchy even though men have literally zero social power

>>24632103
This. Literally refuted by the existence of xitter.

>>24634820
the idea that men are going to embrace feminism is just something that is never going to happen, and when they usually do, the woman they're with either leaves them or dominates them. its just how things are.

>>24635446
Finland then
>>24635449
Bro, elite men literally rape little girls with no consequences for a day off of work. The final redpill is that patriarchy is not rule of men, its rule of the patriarchs, which is the same thing

>>24635445
You are a man. Fuck you. Kill yourself.

>>24635456
>Bro, elite men literally rape little girls with no consequences for a day off of work.
And why am I not that 0.01% vs the rest of the 99%? Because this society is fundamentally gynocentric and the few people who exist above it can safely ignore the "rules" everyone else has to follow.
>The final redpill is that patriarchy is not rule of men, its rule of the patriarchs, which is the same thing
Patriarchy is only bad when you show sympathy towards women.

>>24635465
>And why am I not that 0.01% vs the rest of the 99%? Because this society is fundamentally gynocentric and the few people who exist above it can safely ignore the "rules" everyone else has to follow.
It's not gynocentric when elites get to abuse women but poor people don't. It's just resource hoarding but with humans

>>24635470
>It's not gynocentric when elites get to abuse women but poor people don't.
This is a complete non-sequitur, dumb fuck.

>>24635465
the thing is women are never told they're imperfect their entire lives which gives them an inflated sense of self worth. unlike men with Fight Club, there's never been a female equivalent in the cultural landscape so its always been like this.

>>24635473
How are you defining gynocentric? If you mean men are obsessed with women due to surrender to animal instinct, yes
If you mean women are actually treated as people, and not as resources, no.
It's in no way beneficial to be treated as a sex slave, particularly to a gender that has lower sex drive.
What you are describing is an patriarchical oligarchy and not a matriarchy

>>24635474
>the thing is women are never told they're imperfect their entire lives
This is a joke, bro.
Did you have no sisters? Most women are told they are worthless all of their lives with the exception of a few rich socialites

>>24635488
I have a younger sister and she looks down upon me for not being as "educated" as she is and the fact she internalized all sorts of bad things about me growing up. she dominates family conversations and my parents just let her do it. but you wouldn't understand.

>>24635484
>How are you defining gynocentric?
That society exists primarily for women to thrive and succeed. In your elite example, its a thing *because* its taboo. No one says anything about a woman having sex with one gorillion men regardless.
>If you mean women are actually treated as people, and not as resources, no.
They don't need to be. They're treated as goddesses.
>It's in no way beneficial to be treated as a sex slave, particularly to a gender that has lower sex drive.
Lol, sex slave to who? No one frowns upon promiscuity anymore, and even before that many civilizations would show excess sentimentality towards promiscuous women since she can't help her "nature"
>What you are describing is an patriarchical oligarchy and not a matriarchy
We have never lived in a patriarchy.

>>24635488
It's shut-in middle class whiteoids jealous of their sister for being praised by papa
Girls do better in school and are less likely to break the rules so this tends to happen
In other cultures girls are told they are worthless all their lives. It's common for older relatives to speculate how ugly girls will end up being when they are older
The girly media and self-help books saying women are wonderful is a overreaction to the reality of life, where women are told anything but
>>24635493
White guy? White guy. Everyone else bullies their younger sisters

>>24635494
>That society exists primarily for women to thrive and succeed. In your elite example, its a thing *because* its taboo. No one says anything about a woman having sex with one gorillion men regardless.
You live in a vacuum of Andrew Tatelet tictocks? If a woman sleeps around she is called a slut. The reason there's so many anti-slut-shaming campaigns run by rich feminists is because it is socially unacceptable in reality.
>They don't need to be. They're treated as goddesses.
I don't think goddesses are regularly raped by the very rich
>Lol, sex slave to who? No one frowns upon promiscuity anymore, and even before that many civilizations would show excess sentimentality towards promiscuous women since she can't help her "nature"
This is rich. Most promiscuous women were killed in the past or ostracised
>We have never lived in a patriarchy.
Patriarchy is a rule of "patriarchs" not of common Johns. The patriarchs are oligarchs in effect that give crumbs to normie men

>>24635455
I absolutely would because I just want a normal equal cooperateive relationship like I was taught as a kid by the remnants of the actual communists. But we are in capitalism now, so this happens:
>when they usually do, the woman they're with either leaves them or dominates them.
It is very sad and it's not how relationships are supposed to work.

>>24634820
>men only want sex with hot women because of le validation
When will this meme die?

>>24635538
If it makes you feel better, a lot of the divorced male feminists are just coping abusers. They secretly beat their wives while LARPing so no one suspected
It's darkly hilarious how it occurs again, and again

>>24634820
I would marry Dworkin as long as she was extremely hairy (she obviously is) and if she wasn't insane and was like minimally nice.

>>24635556
Her bf said she was kind

>>24635552
It doesn't make me feel better because I have a perfectly normal view of everything, but everyone else has been brainwashed into following two (or more) insane ideologies that both go against it.

>>24635559
So why did she bitch about being an ugly femcel when she wasn't.

>>24635561
At least it means that most women aren't just leaving men for no reason like red-pillers say
>>24635564
She didn't bitch about being an ugly femcel. She made herself ugly because she was forced into prostitution at a young age and was scared it was going to happen again. Guys hate women because they don't want anything to do with them and women hate guys because of shitty experiences.
Women have lower sex drive and are valued more if they are a virgin rather than a "player" so its very rare for women to hate men because men don't want them.

>>24635579
>forced into prostitution
Interesting, they kidnapped her? Who was it? Are they in jail?

>>24633472
Good morning Saars!

>>24635508
Stfu you lying, vapid cunt. There is nothing explicitly patriarchal about modern civilization post-sexual revolution.

>>24631155 (OP)
Nietzsche couldn't have been Nietzsche without going screwy.

>>24635494
>We have never lived in a patriarchy.
this is like when you're arguing religion and the other guy says "oh btw evolution isn't real"
if anything it's even worse than that

>>24631155 (OP)
does this retard even know where Nietzsche and Rimbaud ended up?

>>24631209
good

>>24631155 (OP)
Jewish people are weird

My girlfriend is so dumb. I miss fucking smart girls.

>>24636093
ywnbaw

>>24631155 (OP)
Nietzsche died in 1900. Rimbaud in 1891. Lobotomies didn't become accepted medical practice until well into the 1900s. The very first documented case of modern psychosurgery was in 1888 and it was heavily criticized. Proper lobotomies weren't done until the 1930s.

She definitely wasn't right about being lobotomized.

>>24636416
>Pedants, like the rapist, are both victims of their own misdirected impulses. In many ways, the pedant is a retarded person.

- Freud

>>24631155 (OP)
>Next, Rimbaud was subjected to a dehumanizing medical examination, and the doctors reported on his “small penis and its particularly small, tapering head.”After a bogus rectal exam, they concluded that “A. Rimbaud bears on his person traces of habitual pederasty, both active and passive.”

>>24631219
>left to their own devices
Wrong. Your knowledge is based on a world in which both genders are constantly poked and prodded, both are commonly highly irritated and overflowing with beliefs based on hearsay rather than genuine experience. Because genuine experience is nigh impossible now due in large part to what I said previously about the poking and prodding and deliberate retarding. It's vile. I miss the humans we used to be.

>>24635499
Impoverished and third world shithole societies are not in discussion.
Never heard of this bullying younger sister thing anywhere i've lived.

>>24631155 (OP)
> In sixth grade, the administration at her new school punished her for refusing to sing "Silent Night" (as a Jew, she objected to being forced to sing Christian religious songs at school).[25] She said she "probably would have become a rabbi" if women could have while she was in high school and she "would have liked" being a Talmudic scholar
No .

>>24636419
>X would've been lobotomized
>No, that's literally impossible
>Wow stop being so pedantic

>>24631155 (OP)
Few will acknowledge how unspeakably based this kike-dyke is. One of my favourite thinkers. So creative. So obvious. So honest.

>>24632073
I don't think you know what "erotic" means.

>Be called Rim bard
>He's a gay poet

Lifes-a-joke naysayers BTFO.

I don't know if god was just really pissed off when he made Andrea Dworkin, but its honestly quite mesmerising how every aspect of her existence is ugly

she looks disgusting, her name sounds disgusting, she lived a disgusting life, and she espoused disgusting ideas

>>24631665
Nietzsche wasn't rich but he received a pension from his university after he had to retire.

>>24633139
What evidence is there that Nietzsche was highly promuscuous? All I've seen points in the opposite direction and it's even a common joke to call him an incel.
He was only suspected of having stds when his health got bad later in life, but the syphilis diagnosis doesn't match his symptoms and how long he survived.

>>24631155 (OP)
>No woman could have been Nietzsche or Rimbaud without ending up in a whorehouse or lobotomized.
God i wish both happened to me

>>24633139
>That being said Nietzche was highly promiscuous and was suspected of having STDs
EL-OH-EL

>>24636906
I'm sorry for your bimbo fetish. No, I don't expect you to recover.

>>24631155 (OP)
I mean Nietsche lived on a meager stipend from friends, family and the occasional benefactor in order to produce works that he himself thought of as transcendantal value. Name one woman who has ever tried to do that in any field? Women are too practical, materialistic and tend to only self sacrifice only in favor of their children, not their works.

>>24638324
Oh no he had free money all his life without having to lift a finger woe is him.

>>24635552
“Male feminist” is a very poisoned label to the point that it just means “rapist/wife-beater in disguise”. Which sucks for men that want to actually engage with feminist thought in any capacity. That said, male RadFems are a different breed.

>>24633527
Having great minds silenced due to their gender is good?

>>24631155 (OP)
That's Yngwie Malmsteen circa 2003

>>24636093
Patriarchy does not exist because civilization fundamentally exists for women and nothing more.