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Anonymous No.24636849 >>24636852 >>24636934 >>24637162 >>24637185 >>24637247 >>24637272 >>24637396 >>24637403 >>24638584 >>24639753 >>24639860 >>24642803
y this board dead? where have all the flowers gone?
Anonymous No.24636852
>>24636849 (OP)
People arent here for discussion. If the book cam be found on wikipedia you will get shit posters and if its not as famous you will get noone
Anonymous No.24636859
the wannabe writers, genre sloppers, and religitards have overrun and ruined the board with their normal crap
Anonymous No.24636924 >>24638571
Because people just consoom and have no real opinions on the audiobooks they listening to while playing vidyas
Anonymous No.24636928
I will redeem this board single handedly sirs. I am your saviour. You have fallen into pitiful bemoanings, yes, and you have only yourselves to blame, certainly, but sirs, I am here to uplift you all with my magnificent and noble artpostings.
Anonymous No.24636934 >>24637097
>>24636849 (OP)
I became addicted to Gooning
Anonymous No.24636967
I've definitely started coming here less frequently, as the ratio of chud bait and spam to actual discussions about literature has become completely unbounded. After reading a book, what am I supposed to do about it here? All you get is one-word responses like "pseud," "faggot," or "kys." I can have better conversations with myself. Not only that, but there's a pervasive group of people who dismiss reading altogether as a waste of time—this place is lost. Good luck redeeming it.
Anonymous No.24636971 >>24638430
Ich shall redeem this forsaken place with love and power
Anonymous No.24637035 >>24637039 >>24637235
Effort posting goes ignored for the most part: it’s all just an elaborate rage-baiting apparatus where everyone’s searching for that one unhinged dysgenic to provoke and humiliate for entertainment. You’re guaranteed to find one sperging out within the Peterson or Evola posts. Otherwise, this board is nice for seeing what /lit/ people used to read ten years ago. Once you have that list down and recognize it for what it is, it’s time to leave. Everything is just reposts of the same authors and same talking points, same tired bait and garbage.
Anonymous No.24637039
>>24637035
Bsit generates responsed while genuine attemps at conversation do not
Anonymous No.24637097 >>24639913
>>24636934
i unironically think is the biggest problem. all previously gifted anons have fallen into the sissy hypno hypercthonic abyss and have gone blind and deaf and deranged in that oily dark. when they go crawl their way back here, their life force is too drained to think of anything to post.
Anonymous No.24637109 >>24637112 >>24637166
Uh I dont know but I really like this board despite its flaws.

I will force my wife to have hairy armpits
Anonymous No.24637112 >>24640226
>>24637109
>i really like this board
>non sequitor about women with hairy armpits
Anonymous No.24637162 >>24637185 >>24637195 >>24637197 >>24638606
>>24636849 (OP)
Is there any online alternative to /LIT? R/truelit? and plebbit sucks. /HIS is filled with opinions of people that want to have an opinion but don't know what they are talking about.
Anonymous No.24637166
>>24637109
based abstract yet positive poster
I ignore women No.24637185
>>24636849 (OP)
coomb8 and b8 in general destroys every board, but coomb8 especially since it's so easy and jannies refuse to take it down because the bitch spreading her legs is holding a book or something so it's technically "on-topic."
>>24637162
>filled with opinions of people that want to have an opinion but don't know what they are talking about.
that's just the internet, my guy. Try Scrawl: The Writer's Asylum, I think it's dead over there but I don't know, I'm not a member—it also seems more aimed towards writers than readers.
Anonymous No.24637195
>>24637162
+1
Apart from r/truelit, no other place is both active and worthwhile. And it's way better than this board, I'd warrant there are more plebs here compared to truelit.

Also, could someone take up the initiative of starting something similar to the imperium europae threads which we had for a while last year? Haven't touched an essay since.
Anonymous No.24637197 >>24637218 >>24637375 >>24640087
>>24637162
r/rsbookclub
look it up.
Anonymous No.24637218 >>24637228 >>24637250 >>24641101
>>24637197
fuck those cunts. perhaps the most pretentious place on the entire internet.
Anonymous No.24637221
Law of the pendulum: the darkest is before the dawn. Ray guns were recharging and now shall vomit some true acrid schizo telegrams from beyond the mauve of complacency.

My brothers, we shall honour the non-speech. Athleticism of posting is real.
Anonymous No.24637228 >>24639840
>>24637218
>pretentious
First time I’ve seen a retard on here openly admit to being filtered by Redditors.
Anonymous No.24637235 >>24637261 >>24637395 >>24637684 >>24637786
>>24637035
>Effort posting goes ignored for the most part
No, the problem is if you engage with one of these "effort posters'" threads and say a single thing that contradicts what they know from the sliver of secondary literature they've read and their own autistic head canon they will sperg out and call you a pseud. People who start those threads just want you to tell them how brilliant they are or ask them fawning questions as if they are an oracle of wisdom. Anything else will be met with narcissistic rage.
Anonymous No.24637247
>>24636849 (OP)
You should become that flower, anon. Rethink posting as a technique to cultivate your own being. Style of writing, ability to overstep limitations. Generally, to be able to get the heat on your own. And it is contagious. (Even more than a bad faith is.) Post to bring your self to awareness (first) and to make space for the frens to get it (second).
Anonymous No.24637250 >>24637258
>>24637218
elaborate. what pretentiousness have you witness?
Anonymous No.24637258
>>24637250
witnessed*
Anonymous No.24637261 >>24637269 >>24637295
>>24637235
So every effort post is a call for attention?This just sounds like you got corrected and reacted badly to it. Getting hysterical over things like that isn’t good for your blood pressure.
Anonymous No.24637265 >>24637288 >>24637292
It's just a microcosm of a global cultural shift. The old /lit/ was full of kids who had been in gifted classes, they had passions and read widely in their free time. You can go in the archive and see for yourself how much more patrician /lit/ was pre-2016 or even pre-2020. Nu/lit/ has the same demographic - kids from gifted classes. But now they barely read, what they do read is intensely politicized (Evola, people reading Heidegger because he's supposed to be a Nazi, same for Nietzsche), and their attention span is so fried that they can't understand what they're reading (see especially the Aristotle question threads). So now most of the philosophy threads are political trolling, edgy fascists, edgy racists, edgy gnostics, edgy recent converts to Orthodoxy and Catholicism, etc. It's basically /r/philosophymemes + the n-word at this point.
Anonymous No.24637269 >>24637283
>>24637261
>So every effort post is a call for attention?
I was speaking in general but I'd say this is accurate 95% of the time. You're only buttblasted because you see it applies to you.
Anonymous No.24637272
>>24636849 (OP)
I found some alternatives that are better for specific interests like rare books. They all have old geezers and rules of conduct that are so boring though. Can’t say what you think, can’t call out some retarded fag for being retarded, gotta watch what you say about collections or designs lest some cunt get offended.
There’s really nowhere else people will be real. They enacted a real dystopia with the shadowbanning self censorship as well. Remember to be advertiser friendly anon. I LOVE PRODUCT!
Anonymous No.24637283
>>24637269
You seem primed for argument where a disagreement scarcely exists, like a dog that’s been kicked too many times. Just admit you got corrected and couldn’t handle it, it’s evident from the obvious seething in your original reply.
Anonymous No.24637288 >>24637370 >>24637797
>>24637265
This board is for literature, not philosophy. Sooner or later you faggots will be banned to /his/ where you belong. As bad as the literature discussion is here the philosophy threads are pure cancer and have been for a long time.
Anonymous No.24637292
>>24637265
>pre-2020
I never use this board but im a newfag from 2017. Chart threads with anons circle jerking the same shit over and over was even worse back then. It isn't easier or harder to generate conversation about books not being constantly circle jerked.
Anonymous No.24637295 >>24637311
>>24637261
Nta, but there was a thread last week that did exactly that for attention:
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24624317
Anonymous No.24637311 >>24637318 >>24637337
>>24637295
That anon was just proving that no one here reads philosophy and it was successful. He isn't giving his hot take on a philosopher and the quotes are from famous and well-known works. Then when the anons turned out to be too retarded to read any of the quotes they responded with narcissistic rage - you are a living example of this. Maybe the highlight for me was the anon accusing the OP of falling short of Greek standards of virtue.
>superior man exposes your lack of speculative arete
>respond by calling him mean and bad
That's Greek virtue alright. You guys are fucked lol.
Anonymous No.24637318 >>24637531
>>24637311
Oh, I get it, you're that anon. Lol way to out yourself. Weird to complain that someone would call you a pseud but make a point to start a thread aiming to do exactly that to everyone else.
Anonymous No.24637337
>>24637311
>that anon
I tried to defend effort posts on this site but maybe they’re right. It’s all just narcissistic circle jerking. Stop embarrassing yourself lmao
Anonymous No.24637370
>>24637288
Is there a difference between philosophy threads on /HIS and /LIT or is it the same 12 people commenting on both?
Anonymous No.24637375
>>24637197
>This place with troons and autists sucks
>Just go to this one with women and fags then
I ignore women No.24637395
>>24637235
True, I remember contributing to a general thread that was getting no attention but once I disagreed with OP's interpretation he called me a troll and said he would ignore me from now on. I imagine most of his general threads died with 0 replies after that.
Anonymous No.24637396
>>24636849 (OP)
democratic party ran out of money to pay shills or pay otherwise useless people (not shills) to do whatever
you can also see it on /pol/, their job has been taken over by ching chongs
but ching chongs don't have what to push on /lit/ and would be too obvious
Anonymous No.24637403 >>24637417
>>24636849 (OP)
Because midwit philosofags took over a board called "literature"
This board should be limited to the discussion of fiction, poetry, and creative writing
Anonymous No.24637417 >>24637755
>>24637403
Cant discuss on /his/ though. Really is /pol/ with dates.
Anonymous No.24637531 >>24637684
>>24637318
The more you talk the more foolish you look. You think that you have a right to speak on philosophy when you haven't read/understood even Aristotle's Metaphysics, Kant's CPR, Hegel's PoS and you're wrong. I know you think philosophy is a matter of opinionating that anyone can do. Take a simple philosophical question - how are accidents related to definitions? Anyone can easily argue for either side; "Definitions are obviously conventional because each individual is different; we need definitions to make sense of the world, but the definitions in themselves can't be anything but conventions." Or, "Without real definitions, reasoning would be impossible. The alternative position defeats itself." Etc. Any fool can come up with quick arguments on either side of these old philosophical debates. But, in fact, philosophy is a conversation that has been developing for thousands of years, and to have a grasp on the nature of the questions, or the answers people give them, you have to actually read the books. But you think you don't really have to read them, you're smart enough without them. I don't know what to say, it's disgraceful, even sacrilegious, like the rapists in De Cons. My hope was that that thread would inspire one of you kids to say "damn, I really do need to read Aristotle. Time to hit the books!" Instead all I got was pseuds like you seething and insisting that you can do philosophy just fine without studying anything. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Anonymous No.24637684 >>24637696
>>24637531
Case in point of >>24637235 lmao

>"I'M GONNA GET KIDS TO READ ARISTOTLE BY BEING A PRETENTIOUS DICK"
Dumb way to shore up the discipline, but keep at it and see how that works out for ya
Anonymous No.24637696 >>24637706 >>24637714
>>24637684
You really can't help yourself.
>"Hey, you should really read Aristotle and shit if you want to post about philosophy"
>nuh uh lmao pwned frfr u mad bro? u think this post will save le philosophy lmaooo pwned u mad bro
You're a retard and it sucks that people like you dominate philosophical discussion on this board.
Anonymous No.24637706
>>24637696
>raging out in every thread and monologuing at people encourages them to read
Lmao okay
Anonymous No.24637714
>>24637696
NTA but cunts like you make everyone despise the game you call "philosphy", and ensure its downfall. The best thing you could do for your professed passion is complete silence.
Anonymous No.24637755 >>24637761 >>24637792 >>24637800 >>24638529 >>24639869
>>24637417
/his/ is based
Anonymous No.24637761 >>24637765
>>24637755
that nigga on the right tortured me to death via rats in Prague, 1263 AD. i haven't forgiven him at all
Anonymous No.24637765 >>24637791 >>24637792 >>24637800 >>24639869
>>24637761
Samuel is based
Anonymous No.24637786 >>24637810
>>24637235
Facts
99% of effortposters are just good at making themselves sound authoritative but don’t know all that much
Anonymous No.24637791
>>24637765
these three were the co-head prison guards in Xi'an, 862BCE. they conspired to deprive me of food and hygiene before drowning me in the latrine.
Anonymous No.24637792 >>24637943
>>24637755
>>24637765
Why do you have several collages of dudes?
Anonymous No.24637797
>>24637288
Deo volente
Anonymous No.24637800 >>24637943
>>24637755
>>24637765
God I hate /his/
Anonymous No.24637810
>>24637786
I was only able to describe the effortposters so well because I am one of them ;_;
Anonymous No.24637930
Was /lit/ actually ever good? Wasnt here in like 2012.
Anonymous No.24637941
Lit was never good. I shudder to think the time since I found this glorified array folder. It seems as if the cosmos has destroyed or recreated itself at least twice or three times.
Anonymous No.24637943
>>24637792
They're regular (or used to be regular) /his/ posters who were notorious for either making or shitting up threads and for posting their faces
>>24637800
It's based
Anonymous No.24637948 >>24637961
>actual threads about literature get a dozen replies then die quickly
>twitter e drama threads get hundreds of replies to bump limit
There's a reason this board is dying
Anonymous No.24637961 >>24638018
>>24637948
What would happen if we went through a period of intensive moderation? Would it improve things or simply kill the board?
Anonymous No.24638018 >>24638084
>>24637961
Board population is already pretty small compared to other boards. Problems aren't just with board quality (there's ALWAYS been terrible, rotten, no-good, very bad threads since the very beginning), but that the board population has shrunk so much that threads just die if the few regulars don't post anything, and a lot of posters are one-timers who start a thread with a basic question and dip as soon as they're answered. There needs to be fresh blood, but who's really gonna recommend going to 4chan for that nowadays?
Anonymous No.24638025
retard niggas posting twitter and reddit caps that are just bait instead of discussing authors and books.
>here's a pic of a foid saying something retarded. get angry.
>people on tiktok are doing the poop lit thread!
Anonymous No.24638084
>>24638018
Is it time to permanently merge /fit/ and /lit/? Or for a few months, at least.
Anonymous No.24638135 >>24638333
we got jobs, started families and are enjoying our cities cultural elite's circles. We are too busy to effort post and lol at silly booktubers or lit influencers.
Anonymous No.24638333
>>24638135
Yah haha we sure did *passes away*
Anonymous No.24638430
>>24636971
>Ich
Oh anon
Anonymous No.24638529
>>24637755
who cares when they're all spiritually decrepit materialistic subhumans.
Anonymous No.24638571 >>24639605
>>24636924
audiobooks are the intellectuals choice of experiencing literary works. without having to focus on reading, your mind is freed up to allow for deeper thinking and even lets you focus on thoroughly building the scene portrayed with your imagination.
Anonymous No.24638584
>>24636849 (OP)
loooong tiiiiimmeee faaaappppinnggg
Anonymous No.24638606
>>24637162
>Is there any online alternative to /LIT? R/truelit?
Start a twitter account where you curate your follows to certain select posters is the best solution that I've found.
Anonymous No.24639605
>>24638571
I walk, work out or do some DIY stuff. Physical activity seems to enhance retention.
Anonymous No.24639618 >>24639629
it's because people like op are still posting pepes like it's 2016 when the rest of the world has moved on. just makes the community look stagnant and dead which it is.
Anonymous No.24639629
>>24639618
>IT'S CURRENT YEAR STOP POSTING PEPE REEEEEE
also that's Apu, tourist
Anonymous No.24639632 >>24639702 >>24639727 >>24639742
Woud anyone be interested in an invite-only, anonymous textboard centered around the humanities? Picrel is a prototype. I'm writing the software. I intend to hold it to high discussion standards so moderation would be harsher to prevent offtopic and shitposting.

The reason to make it invite only is to prevent raiding and infiltration by bad actors since if you invite people who cause trouble you would get banned or your invite tree banned, and to try to hold in high standards the users of the site. Kinda like private trackers.
Anonymous No.24639702 >>24639725
>>24639632
i can only imagine how utterly pretentious that shit would be.
>economy
i'm sure i would be banned in like a day for not slurping marx's nutsack, so that's gonna be a pass from me. if i wanted a highly censored echo chamber of leftists i would just go on reddit.
Anonymous No.24639725
>>24639702
No censorship, it would be laissez faire like 4chan, bust high standards of discussion and low tolerance for shitposting and trolling.
I ignore women No.24639727
>>24639632
that sounds like a great idea, anon
Anonymous No.24639742 >>24639751
>>24639632
Just make sure that your standards for moderation are /all/ about removing off-topic nonsense, and never about the content or tone of an on-topic post. Clear communication about this.

Also, please include a theme that doesn't include the glow. That'd get very grating, fast, and I don't want to write custom CSS to disable it.
Anonymous No.24639751
>>24639742
>Just make sure that your standards for moderation are /all/ about removing off-topic nonsense, and never about the content or tone of an on-topic post. Clear communication about this.
Yeah, this is the idea.
>Also, please include a theme that doesn't include the glow. That'd get very grating, fast, and I don't want to write custom CSS to disable it.
You can also use Yotsuba B
Anonymous No.24639753 >>24639757
>>24636849 (OP)
What do you mean? This board has never been better!
Anonymous No.24639757 >>24639781
>>24639753
if you are joking I agree, if you are being serious I agree. it's never been better, and it's never been worse. the disparity makes it exciting. like looking for diamonds in a septic tank.
Anonymous No.24639781 >>24639817 >>24639826 >>24639855
>>24639757
/lwc/ is the only serious thread that ever appears. What I want is read-along threads—they're just about the only type that can actually generates insightful discussion. Last time I took part in one, It died after less than a week, because no one was willing to read around 5-7 pages of Macbeth a day.
Anonymous No.24639817
>>24639781
You are right. If there is one thing this board needs is a reading group/thread. What do we have for writing threads? We have a few but I'm not certain what they are attempting to accomplish. Anyway, if I want to be a good anon, I know I should contribute a bit more in those threads.
Anonymous No.24639826 >>24639836
>>24639781

I've been reading the first 10 pages of henry the 4th over and over again so a 10 page a day shakespeare thread would be /LIT, make the thread anon.
Anonymous No.24639836 >>24639862
>>24639826
Busy with a move and some holiday stuff, but it's a good idea. You can either post a gallup for deciding which work you want to read, and how much of it per day, or you can just declare it and hope for the best. I won't be consistently available until the start of September. Better failed read-alongs than infinite chud bait and shelf galleries.
Anonymous No.24639840
>>24637228
Why do people on this board act like pretentiousness doesn't exist?
Anonymous No.24639855 >>24639872 >>24639873
>>24639781
What about a thread where someone posts a poem or short story (limit it to word count, like 10,000 words) and we all read and discuss?
Anonymous No.24639860
>>24636849 (OP)
The flowers left when our butterfly stopped pollinating them. We miss you butterfly
Anonymous No.24639862 >>24639880
>>24639836
Maybe I'll just do one of the short histories and not GAF if anyone else chimes in. Likely have to structure it as one act per day.
Anonymous No.24639869
>>24637765
>>24637755
that guy on the right is finnish he used to shit up /v/ with threads of his face and tally counts of days without masturbating he said it gave him superpowers
Anonymous No.24639872
>>24639855
I believe there's a flash fiction, or 3,00 character contest by the LWC anons coming today.
Anonymous No.24639873 >>24639918
>>24639855
That's essentially the same, but without anyone having to commit for multiple days in a row. I think the character limit is 3000, so you'll probably want to use rentry.co or something (unless poems). Not a bad idea. You can post one of these every once a while, that'd certainly introduce a bit of actual discourse. The best situation, to me, is where there are many different reading threads that you can pick from, simultaneously. Go right ahead. The more the merrier.

It's been done before, course. There are some zines of past poetry commentaries, where a new poem would be analysed each day for a whole year. I'll have to about the format, too, once I've more time.
Anonymous No.24639880 >>24639889
>>24639862
Good luck—the Macbeth readalong died because I tried bumping it to two /scenes/ per day, and the remaining two gave up.
Anonymous No.24639889
>>24639880
so it became just you, posting thoughts of your one scene a day? Like a star dimming with each millennium until finally winking out.
Anonymous No.24639913
>>24637097
wait real what the fuck
Anonymous No.24639918
>>24639873
I think I’ll make a post at some point trying the idea out. Really, I want to make a meetup irl with this idea - a literature club where each week there’s selected short stories and poems that could be ready and discussed over a few hours. Just hard to organize since I’m in South Florida which doesn’t necessarily attract a lit crowd.
Anonymous No.24640087 >>24640341
>>24637197
>female podcast fandom literary tumor
no thanks
Anonymous No.24640226 >>24640716
nobody here reads. I tried to make a thread about this book, a book I read. it stayed up for about three days, and the only (You) I got was from some guy who had only read the popular Bellow stuff (Augie, Henderson). there are a lot of psueds on this board.
>>24637112
yeah he's based
Anonymous No.24640341
>>24640087
>Scrawl: The Writer's Asylum,
/RSbook club

28thousand members
28 online

Seems promising
Anonymous No.24640716
>>24640226
I would never pick up a book with such a boring title
Anonymous No.24641101
>>24637218
People get mad at the use of that word but you're right. It's because their worldview is myopic and disgustingly american. Nothing wrong with americans, but you'll very easily see right through the illusions of snark and pseudery and forced political concerns if you aren't one.
Anonymous No.24642803
>>24636849 (OP)
Women and jannies kill everything they touch and then complain it's dead. It's happening to everything, everywhere not just this board.