Thread 24638558

>Chivalry: >:(
>Chivalry, France: :O

>>24638558 (OP)
A good writer can write from a perspective not their own. It’s why Heinlein could write proto hippie creed stranger in a strange land and then turn around and write gung ho, militant Starship troopers.

How is Twain’s Joan of arc by the way? I know he considered it his best work. I’ve been thinking of Twaining out. Might start with this or his book about his time as a sailor on a steamboat.

>>24638558 (OP)
Book on the left was such proto-reddit slop
>heh if I could go back in time I’d introduce them to weed and bbc sissy hypno to fix their fucked up chud society

>>24639846
>How is Twain’s Joan of arc by the way?
It's good history, especially when you consider it was probably the only source Anglos had before the movies came out. It's a little weird because so much of it is spent hyping up Jeanne as the most perfect saintly human that ever was, which doesn't mesh with Twain's whole anti-nationalist anti-military anti-religion deal, but it works when you remember his real religion was hating the British.

>>24639846
I liked it so much I finished it in two days

>>24641039
>his real religion was hating the British.
As any sane man should do

>>24639863
Caught the anon that didn't read it
ends with him looking around horrified that he accidently ruined their society

Joan of Arc was the world's first true nationalist and embodied nationalism not chivalry

Imagine fighting for the virgin mary.

>>24641098
Ok

>>24641098
I can and would

>>24641098
Imagine insulting Mary on the Feast of the Assumption.

Yep, an extremely pious and devout teenage girl getting raped, tortured and burned alive by Catholic knights for being too sassy is absolutely a good illustration of chivalry as it historically happened (let's not forget that crusaders massacred the Christians of Jerusalem, raped the Christians of Constantinople, and literally ate Muslims), but I don't think Mark Twain was trying to glamorize that, exactly. Unless maybe you mean to suggest that a woman taking on a masculine role in military garb is the chivalry here, which is laughable.

>>24641203
Shoo shoo fedora tipper

>>24641205
It wasn't fedoras who had Joan burned, it was literally Catholic clergy who charged her with dressing like a man lmao

>>24641207
It was the English themselves, and they didn't want the Pope involved specifically because the Pope would probably have declared her innocent. She was canonized in the end which is proof enough that she's vindicated in the eyes of the Church.

>>24638558 (OP)
Explain this to me, the lack-knowledgeable viewer

>>24641215
She was canonized but that was long after the English went protestant so there was no political issue. The English continued to hate her, as evinced by Shakespeare (often claimed as Catholic) depicting her as a slut with delusions that the devil will save her from being burned. The Catholic Church would never have canonized her if England had stayed Catholic because it would have been seen as playing favorites in what was mostly perceived as a nationalist war until centuries after England left the church

>>24641215
It wasn't the english; the burgundians put her on trial and sentenced her