Thread 24639093

Reminder that if you're an "autodidact" it's over for you.
>no institutional credibility
>no one to correct your misconceptions
>no access to high-functioning peer networks, existing peer networks likely crackpot or flighty
>no focused motivation
>no means of applying learning to life
>no proper socialization into a class
>very often low IQ, coping long after the fact with failure where it might have counted
>no institutional credibility
>no institutional credibility
>no institutional credibility
It's embarrassing. Save others the trouble of having to ignore you.

>>24639093 (OP)
Many famous writers throughout history have been autodidacts. Not saying the average /lit/izen should expect fame or fortune, but there's no need to disparage self-education, it's an end in itself. Especially ironic relying on the quote of an overconfident midwit like George Orwell to make your point.

>>24639102
They too were nine out of ten fools. And there is no point to learning if not application. Might as well play video games.
You can't study your way into class.

>>24639107
>there is no point to learning if not application
Lol, okay, I'm sure you're the authority on iq and education.

>>24639111
That's what you say because you have no argument against me.
Class is bought with blood. Generations of it. You look like kids dressing up as adults, all of you, to anyone with a real education.

>>24639093 (OP)
you're right. I'm an autodidact currently completing a university degree just to prove I can do what I already have been doing.

>>24639093 (OP)
>>no institutional credibility
>>no one to correct your misconceptions
>>no access to high-functioning peer networks, existing peer networks likely crackpot or flighty
>>no focused motivation
>>no means of applying learning to life
>>no proper socialization into a class
>>very often low IQ, coping long after the fact with failure where it might have counted
Yes, this is all much different from the life of a graduate student. I'd even say it's the complete opposite.

>>24639093 (OP)
Depends on the field. If you're trying to be an professional philosopher, then yeah, sure. But a writer? The arts don't require institutional credibility if you have the talent. It makes it easier, no doubt, but it's not required.

>>24639116
If a real education someday exists again then yeah we‘ll all probably look stupid by comparison. At least we on this board won‘t look stupid and pretentious like the people who used the hollowed-out institutions to promote contemporary dreck and subversion of the classics.

>>24639116
You type like a LARPing teenager trying to excuse his own failings. I don't think you understand just how retarded you sound by saying 'you shouldn't read a henry james novel because it has no practical use in your life'.

>>24639093 (OP)
>Is that...... Is that asshole..... Reading? A fucking book? What a fucking retard, doesn't he know he'll never have institutional credibility? He should be watching cartel beheading videos and playing RuneScape, which are better and more productive uses of his time.

>>24639093 (OP)
>no institutional credibility X4
Have you seen the current status of the "education" system? Although society might accept a degree so that you can get a job (provided you have a friend of family member to help you get your foot in the door), in itself it's only worthless paper that proves you nodded your head along with whatever the (((professors)) were spouting for four years. No thanks, I think I'm better without. Especially in current year.

>>24639116
you need to be at least 18 years old to post here.

>>24639093 (OP)
> half educated
> committed to some way of life

which is it?

>>24639142
It never matters if the masses can not tell the difference. And because the masses are barely literate again... well.

>>24639093 (OP)
i think this was mostly true in the past but now you have a leg up not being indoctrinated by instutitons. you go harvard and youre brainwashed into thinking men can get pregnant, vaccines stop transmission, "generational trauma", toni morrison is the best writer ever, etc.

>>24639224
Harvard has always been retarded. They were founded by unitarian whigs or some retarded shit like that.

>>24639231
The USA has always been retarded. It was founded by secular Episcopalians or some retarded shit like that.

>>24639093 (OP)
>no institutional credibility
The institutes themselves have no credibility. Every time I hear some news about my alma mater I feel fucking embarassed via association. Every year they get more woke, abolishing entry exams in the name of equality, letting people in for writing "black lives matter" 600 times as an essay, letting feminists ruin students lives with defamation campaigns against students, defending Israel's holocaust on Palestinians.
>no one to correct your misconceptions
All you have to do is read different opinions
>no access to high-functioning peer networks, existing peer networks likely crackpot or flighty
Internet. I can talk to any college professor and any author in the world, and I have. They're often overjoyed that someone has a relevant question to ask relating to their life's work.
>no focused motivation
What the fuck does that mean?
>no means of applying learning to life
Well that's just wrong.
>no proper socialization into a class
Classes are daycare centers for man children and barely functional party girls.

>>24639116

Saar, fix your grammar and pretentiousness first. Get off the thread and delete your useless posts, now.

>>24639239
Sorry, but you don't get to decide that.

this thread type is always very successful as bait here, may post my own in a few months

>>24639093 (OP)
>>24639239
Schizos LOVE cherrypicking some flaw of the academy, of the scientific method, of basically any authority in order to scream "See! Daddy isn't all mighty after all! I'm going to reject him! This makes him 100% worthless actually, because I can reject him and he can't stop me!". The truth is that there is no alternative to the academy. Credibility aside, the only way to be a successful "auto" didact, that is, actually contribute meaningfully to any knowledge, is to pass through the tests of the academy with excellence, and then branch off by yourself (or into an industry). Grand institutions are by design going to be mid-tier and come with the associated set of problems. Every "alternative" always devolves into "let's have a mini academy instead", or "I'm too smart to accept your criticism", which are always worse off than the academy itself. Ironically, if these types of people were genuinely wise and committed to their autodidactism, they would have a real answer to this, but they never do.

Academia only works for the hard sciences. The humanities reward experimentation and unconventional thinking and academia by its very nature is intellectually authoritarian and conservative in its character. It is practically a prerequisite of becoming someone great in the humanities that you take a dump all over what people at a particular place and time deem to be the correct way to think and act, and academia can do nothing for you in that regard except be an obstacle.

>be George Orwell
>unironic gigacommie
>like all commies, the thing you hate the most are other sorts of commies
>decide to write very simplistic books to educate the masses about the dangers of not endorsing the right kind of commie
>books get astroturfed by gentlemen of fluorescent persuasion as part of the cold war
>end up becoming some of the most famous anti-commie literature ever made
>"n-no, they weren't supposed to be used against all kinds of communism! This can't be happening, I'm charge here!"
This is the imbecile whose authority you evoke to justify your worthless thread about intellect, zoom-zoom.

>>24639093 (OP)
>no institutional credibility
>no one to correct your misconceptions
This is only a issue for sciences and mathematics.
Literature, philosophy, arts and related degrees are a completely waste of time and money, even their own academia is worthless. The only people who go into those are rich people who can afford to live off parents and people who want to make connections.
There's nothing you could learn there that you can't learn on the to the internet and there are millions of communities where you can receive feedback. In fact, I would argue you will learn more on your own than in most colleges since those are now focused on diversity and inclusivity.

>>24639808
I don't think it's just my prejudices at play when I feel like most lefty authors have this aura of repressed aggression and imperiousness to them, while chuddy authors tend to be relatively chill once you get past the shock factor of their political opinions. Like I can imagine Waugh as a Gestapo officer a lot less vividly than I can imagine Orwell as one.

The main issue with people who worship institutions is that they tend to be wrong about almost everything since the associated curricula are just glorified disinformation campaigns.

>>24639093 (OP)
>no access to high-functioning peer networks, existing peer networks likely crackpot or flighty
This is a skill issue. If you're even mildly personable, it's not hard to make friends with academicians, professionals, and experts embedded in whatever you're interested in

Institutional credibility can be built up through rapport, just like you would from within an institution

>>24639093 (OP)
>no institutional credibility
most major art movements were reactions against the academy

Over to what end? I just like to learn and write fiction. I don't care about convincing you of anything or want a job teaching.
>no one to correct your misconceptions
You don't need a teacher for that.
>no means of applying learning to life
How do you figure?
>no proper socialization into a class
So?
>no focused motivation
Lol, I don't need someone to tell me to do what I love.
>very often low iq nigger faggot retard shit
*shits a fart*
>no access to high functioning peer networks
You can certainly ingratiate yourself in these circles without school
>no institutional credibility
So what? This ain't debate class nigga this is life.

>>24639093 (OP)
>institutional credibility
Who gives a fuck

>>24639857
faggots like op

>>24639093 (OP)
fucking lol

>>24639851
no wonder why the past decade of slop was never successful. lock step

>>24639783
The answer is simply that the academy no longer produces anyone impressive.

>>24639805
The non-creative humanities are downstream of philosophy, which requires a lot of basics to be grasped, and what the academy succeeds at promoting. Virtually all philosophers were academics in some capacity, and even Descartes who is probably the greatest champion of any monumental shift away from "Academic Authority" still learned from them and obtained a degree.

You want to socialize and learn from peers to get half way up the mountain for a good boy badge and a feeling of superiority. I want to lock myself away and keep company with the works of the greatest people to ever live as my guides to the very top of Everest, isolated from people like you. We are not the same sweetie.

>>24639857
pseuds

>>24639870
No longer as of when? Academics tend to get more impressive over time as their work stands on stronger and stronger ground. Probably the most recent impressive philosophical move was done by Nig Land in the 90s, early 2000s.

Yes, rebels are closet aristocrats and vice versa

>>24639857
Literally, (You) and all of the pseud retards that act as if they didn't care.
It's the reason you read well-studied works of history and the canon of philosophical literature over grifters like Anatoly Fomenko or L. Ron Hubbard

>>24639929
I read it all.

>>24639929
I did read L. Ron Hubbard thoughever and moved on to Shakespeare through experience.

>>24639093 (OP)
>>no institutional credibility
this really is a positive with todays academia tho

>>24639948
I doubt it. You filter a lot of names. Unless you're a /sci/ retard that seriously mixes up studying Kant and Chris Langan in the same week.

>>24639961
smart cookies are omnivorous readers. midwits are obsessed with respectability.

>>24639974
>midwits are obsessed with respectability
It's not about being obsessed with it, that's a modern occurence and happens more often to under-achieving women.
But you do care about respectability, when you read a history of philosophy that makes wild claims or over-simplifications, and you turn to refute the assertions. Hypocrite.
Many such cases.

>>24639805
>experimentation
>unconventional thinking
Only work if you're already at the top of your field. Otherwise, a C student's excuses.

>>24639853
I worry for your fiction.

>>24639881
I worry for your health.

>>24639974
while technically true, people who insist on takes like this almost always will consider books like G.E.B. to be valuable

>>24640126
That's an incredibly gay lie, anon.

>>24640128
Ok?

>>24639093 (OP)
Either a woman or an indian wrote this

>>24640179
Schizopill me on the magical clay.

>>24640273
Okay give me a few minutes

>>24640273
>>24640358
Actually I'm not going to give you the qrd because I'm busy with some other things, but I'll offer you some links. They're all archived because Jason Eaton died a few years ago from a congenital heart condition from which he was not able to heal. I don't know what the condition was, and his personal info is not available anywhere because he was a very private person. I had to call a few people to learn that he had a condition.

In Upon a Clay Tablet are several case studies of people who recovered their quality of life from autoimmune diseases with Jason's help. There exists a draft for a second volume but it was never published. Jason's hypothesis is that abiogenesis occurred in smectite clay solutions. Smectite is bentonite, montmorillonite, etc; volcanic ash which both swells and forms colloids in water.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220126052143/https://www.eytonsearth.org/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220126043813/https://www.eytonsearth.org/earthcures/
https://web.archive.org/web/20220518003251/https://www.earthcures.org/

Eaton was also the primary writer at silvermedicine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220303051114/http://www.silvermedicine.org/

This particular article is tangential to human health, but it is an experiment which demonstrates the generative effect of smectites:
https://web.archive.org/web/20220129134554/https://www.silvermedicine.org/wheatgrass-volcanic-clay-supplement.php

Eaton wrote prolifically, and to my view he did fall for some pseudoscientific hype over some procedures, particularly those pertaining to ozone therapies.

In any case there are living people with restored quality of life from the horrors of chronic disease thanks to him. You can read about those in the book. Happy reading.

>>24639093 (OP)
the glowies have been attacking this board at a higher rate lately. they are very afraid of the people awakening and learning for themselves.
"Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." ~ Frederick Douglass

>>24640455
There's no conspiracy here. It's just some retard insecure that he went to school and still doesn't know anything cause schooling actively hurt him and burned him out from learning more and he probably got BTFO'd by a friend he knows that didn't go to school and is lashing out.

>>24640400
Thanks for the efforpost, anon. I'll check it out.

>>24640471
He also had half of his penis skin amputated as an infant

Ah, appeal to authority. The midwit's death knell.

>>24639093 (OP)
>institutional credibility
LMAO, keep trying to be their favourite slave.

>>24639808
he was a fabianist and that's essentially just hitlerism before Hitler

Imagine how sad and bitter one must be to make an OP like this, lol. Sad!

Hey, man, at least you got that degree..

>>24639093 (OP)
>no institutional credibility
Who gives a shit lol
>no one to correct your misconceptions
You mean academics spewing post modern dogma?
>peer networks
With what? A bunch of out of touch academics and lying journalists?
>no focused motivation
If you can't self motivate that's on you bud.
>no means of applying learning to life
How useless is the shit you're learning?
>no proper socialization into a class
You don't get to be upper class by being an academic lol.
>very often low IQ
Low IQs don't read.
>no institutional credibility
You don't get status that way bud.

>>24641470
Low IQ detected

>>24639093 (OP)
>He measures himself against others
NGMI

>>24639808
>Being this one dimensional
If you think Orwell was a communist you are retarded. Literally retarded. Like, there is no hope of you ever having an interesting thought in your entire life.

>>24639093 (OP)
>>no institutional credibility
Is the only one that's true. You can get decent grades at most universities by skimming books, using cliffnotes, and (more recently) using chatgpt. A university's main function is providing a class-based filter for employers

>>24639093 (OP)
I don't give a fuck about the opinion of someone that is retarded enough to shave his mustache this way

>>24642478
I do give a fuck about someone who wrote a critique on authoritarianism

>>24639827
Read more

>>24642822
Kill yourself.

>>24639093 (OP)
>institutional credibility
Name an institution with credibility in 2025. It’s not the government, academia, law enforcement or military.

>>24642905
No.

>>24641672
Nobody cares

>>24642936
It's almost certainly the best thing you could possibly do if you care about humanity. The world would be so much better off without you.

>>24639116
>Class

>>24642964
You can't wish things away by calling them spooks. Ironically, only a classless person would listen to Stirner.

>>24643289
Slaves love to kiss their chains, as usual.

>>24639093 (OP)
The contradictions here really want me to start accelerating some institutions.

> picrel, selfstudy
Luxury titles have been devalued.
> Didn't mean for that to happen but you can't hire to replace yourself if all you have done and contributed is the smell your own farts.

>troll thread getting this many replies
yup its going to remade in less than a week guaranteed