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Anonymous No.24643096 >>24643640 >>24643657 >>24643658 >>24643733 >>24643740 >>24644062 >>24644084 >>24645376 >>24645490 >>24645644 >>24645765 >>24647337 >>24647363 >>24647637 >>24649343 >>24650966 >>24651717
University /lit/ thread
Are academia threads allowed?

>Attend recent conference
>Professor shares that more than 25% of PhD applications to our department are gender studies projects
>This is just at our uni, but consistent across the country (I'm in a Scandinavian country)
>Just boring political close readings and predictable analysis

Look, I'm not going to claim that my own PhD changed the world, but at least I didn't write a dissertation just to complain. It's insane to me that more than 25% of applicants want to write about gender. It's doubly insane that I am surrounded by hyper-privileged white women who somehow have taken it upon themselves to defend black people/Asians/other groups. I often wonder whether academics in Japan or Mongolia or Mexico or Zambia complain that there isn't enough white people literature, just like we apparently complain that literature written by people from our country is widely read by people in our country.

Our degree programme is also overwhelmingly dominated by women (around 95% of the students are girls). I know the situation is different in STEM, but fucking hell.

If you work at a university, or even if you're a student: do you see that gender studies continues to dominate? Do you find their arguments compelling?

And just in case people think I am some incel: I've written peer-reviewed articles about books written by Asians and women, so I am not blindly hating, I just wonder whether we really need so many damn gender studies PhD projects. Ironically there's relatively little diversity in the research in my department.

It's a comfy job, but universities are also weird places to work. I had to give up reading dark academia novels because the fiction is never even close to as fucking strange or ridiculous as real life.
Anonymous No.24643640
>>24643096 (OP)
I worked in the premier history sub-discipline department in Australia. Two people were working in the sub-discipline. Everyone else was doing really really shitty survey sociology.
Anonymous No.24643649 >>24643654 >>24644056 >>24645488
I think Latin should be reimposed as a requirement for serious scholarship. Not only would this act as an effective filter against such bullshit, but you can sell it as an equity measure to combat Anglo-American imperialism.
Anonymous No.24643654 >>24643686
>>24643649
>Latin
You meant Greek. And Sanskrit for Theology degrees.
Anonymous No.24643657 >>24643668
>>24643096 (OP)
Currently doing my own PhD in History.
What I hate the most are all the faculty meetings (also in Scandinavia).
Anonymous No.24643658 >>24643663
>>24643096 (OP)
>I had to give up reading dark academia novels because the fiction is never even close to as fucking strange or ridiculous as real life.
Do people really read books because they expect them to conform to reality?
Anonymous No.24643663 >>24643690
>>24643658
Hey retard, it was just a joke.
Anonymous No.24643668 >>24643672
>>24643657
>What I hate the most are all the faculty meetings (also in Scandinavia).
"Because the stakes are so small."

Just start fucking a woman with 3rd tier standing amongst full employees. You'll find it fun. She'll have a more orderly approach to work, but you'll probably be a better thinker than her.
Anonymous No.24643672 >>24643680 >>24643685 >>24645771 >>24650912 >>24651037
>>24643668
I don't want to fuck anyone, I want to focus on my work.
Anonymous No.24643680
>>24643672
Pure Scandinavian kino
Anonymous No.24643684
I had to read one article claiming this was a depiction of a woman with an afro which is just incredibly lazy scholarship.
Anonymous No.24643685 >>24643719
>>24643672
>I don't want to fuck anyone, I want to focus on my work.
You're at a University. You're not *allowed* to focus on your work.
Anonymous No.24643686
>>24643654
>sanskrit
Shoo shoo, jeet
Anonymous No.24643690 >>24643695
>>24643663
Maybe it's YOUR fault that you're so bad at humour that people think you're serious?
Anonymous No.24643695
>>24643690
Who are these "people" you refer to? You're the only person dumb enough to 1) not understand the silly joke, and 2) get butt-blasted enough to actually post about it. Keep going though, please.
Anonymous No.24643719
>>24643685
So many resources allocated to HR....
Anonymous No.24643733 >>24643750 >>24643760
>>24643096 (OP)
Can't we just make all male universities again?
Anonymous No.24643740 >>24648787
>>24643096 (OP)
>>Our degree programme is also overwhelmingly dominated by women (around 95% of the students are girls).
Grim
Anonymous No.24643750
>>24643733
>Can't we just make all male universities again?
You've never had to deal with gay queen bitch-fights have you? The departmental meeting was created to avoid men murdering each other over indentation versus linebreaks.
Anonymous No.24643760
>>24643733
In most of the world they have all female universities at least.
Anonymous No.24644056
>>24643649
>romance languages
>serious thought
Pick one. Romance languages are for the lazy and the degenerate adulterers. There hasn't been a single work of valuable thought published in a romance language in the last hundred years.
Anonymous No.24644062 >>24644071
>>24643096 (OP)
I understand the lament, but this shit is so easy to fix it's ridiculous.
A single suite of new rules from a chancellor who gave a fuck could remove all of this in an afternoon and reinstate meaningful scholarship.
The real issue is the economic incentives that work against that solution.
Anonymous No.24644071 >>24647321
>>24644062
Has it taken you until you finally started labouring for wages in the University to discover the necessity of proletarian revolution? I guess you're finally a historical materialist now.
Anonymous No.24644084
>>24643096 (OP)
My Degree fff° > You ppp
Anonymous No.24645376
>>24643096 (OP)
Supposed to do a bachelor's then masters in world history this fall
Anonymous No.24645488
>>24643649
>Latin as pleb filter
Latin used to be the most rigorous subject taught in primary school, that role is now being filled by mathematics. This leaves the arts wide open for pretty well anyone to fuck around there. I agree there needs to be some core subject for students in the art stream to wrestle with, but it's too idealistic to think it will be classical languages.
Anonymous No.24645490
>>24643096 (OP)
you got soid by lesbian jewish phds and their minions
Anonymous No.24645644 >>24646465
>>24643096 (OP)
Just specialize on the topic of consent. It's a mindboggling topic for foids. On the one hand, they say that it is deeply rooted into patriarchy, on the other hand, they somehow cannot escape it, because everything they come up with it utter shit or just a description of how consent rapes them
Anonymous No.24645765
>>24643096 (OP)
USA education overrun by leftists
Anonymous No.24645771
>>24643672
Dangerously based
Anonymous No.24646465
>>24645644
Have you read Lacan and Kristeva?
Read Lacan and Kristeva.
1) Women don't exist.
2) Women are created by rape, and they create themselves.
Anonymous No.24647321 >>24647366
>>24644071
>criticising an economic approach makes you a dyed in the wool marxist
I know all you faggots are intellectual babies but come on.
Anonymous No.24647337 >>24647408
>>24643096 (OP)
Yeah there was a girl who was doing all that shit when I was in college, the problem is everyone including the professors aren’t going to ever say anything to them. It’s gay as fuck, literally, it’s all just very gay and sterilized now. I didn’t regret my classes at all I studied some good stuff, I just ignored any pining for outside the class work. Nobody interesting especially not men, want to help cry about the patriarchy. Where are we even supposed to go with it all? Yeah I’m sure society will be better after you
tear down every sign of masculinity.

Whats worse I think it’s necessary, this is the only way liberalism can be transgressive, by constantly seeking to integrate more equality and breakdowns of traditional norms. And fighting the man for expanded rights to minority groups, there’s literally nothing else to do. Going back is pure cope too. University amounts to a daycare and debt trap while the real game changers start and run businesses. Technology is the only thing worth a shit anymore because it’s still cool and there’s nothing women or gays can do about it.
Anonymous No.24647363
>>24643096 (OP)
>It's insane to me that more than 25% of applicants want to write about gender.
They dont. They want to write about their favorite movies, tv shows, celebrity gossip, schlick lit, and any other inane thought that pops into their head, and gender studies is the vehicle that allows them to indulge in their hobbies while pretending it's for the greater good of humanity.
Anonymous No.24647366
>>24647321
Son, examine your workplace collectively.
Anonymous No.24647408 >>24651707
>>24647337
Tech just looks cool from the outside. Most of it, 99% at least, is really fucking lame. Designing an algorithm to manipulate shoppers into spending an extra 10 seconds on your digital marketplace is a total waste of a life. The worst part is that you need to be a high IQ asshole graduating from the top universities to even have a shot of doing that at a FAANG company.

Tech autism, especially surrounding AI, is also ruining other fields. It's very easy to get a STEM PhD with a low level of understanding in your field of specialization, so long as you incorporate AI, which is what half of recent graduates are now doing. AI just obscures everything in a way that removes the capacity for penetrating insight so it's a perfect project for a midwit researcher. Why does this artifact appear? I don't know but I can train a neural network to recognize it!
Anonymous No.24647637 >>24650965
>>24643096 (OP)
No its not literature its trivialities, talk of academia has even less of a place on this board than western philosophy, and people only will engage with this thread because they can wear a stupid smug look on their face will sneering at it, this board has in general just devolved into lowest common denominator sneering at tangential topics because its easier than discussing what actually matters in literature. And unfortunately their conceitedness would be in this case correct because academia really is beyond pointless and will produce nothing good for anyone, this topic of discussion is just target practice for low minded internet barbs and ruins the whole board and by in large the whole site
Anonymous No.24648787 >>24649326
>>24643740
Mine as well
T. Art history
Anonymous No.24649326 >>24649332
>>24648787
Why there are so few men in arts?
Anonymous No.24649332
>>24649326
they'll have a tough time supporting a family with underwater lesbian art theory
Anonymous No.24649343 >>24650751
>>24643096 (OP)
>I did no novel research but these other people not advancing academia are doing non novel research that makes me reeee
Neither of you should have got as far as a masters if there was any merit to the system
Anonymous No.24650751
>>24649343
You sound like an envious little bitch. Are you mad that I got paid to write a comfy PhD while all you have is this board?
Anonymous No.24650912
>>24643672
Vindicated yet again.
Anonymous No.24650951
>study in my free time after work
>can read a book as many times over as I feel I need to understand it
>never have to write a paper unless I want to
>never have to pretend to come up with an original reading
>never have to compete with colleagues
>never have to read journal articles unless they're directly relevant to me and interesting
>never have to deal with HR Stacies
>never have to teach retarded undergrads who are only going through the motions to get an MBA
>can misunderstand something and then correct myself over time with no embarrassment
>can read whatever I want to read
I know several people who went the PhD route and their lives are not enviable. If you care about your subject and simply want to read and study it, you don't need a PhD to do that. Of course most non-academics are pseuds but if you're actually studying for hours a day you won't be a pseud.
Anonymous No.24650965
>>24647637
I think people who whinge about the "state of the board" are the biggest cancer posters here.
Anonymous No.24650966
>>24643096 (OP)
In my younger years I filtered myself by taking a full courseload of 4th year courses in 4th year to get two degrees at once. No human can read 4 1000 page books every two weeks, and I got filtered by Grotius. But now that I'm older, it's legitimately baffling how limited some people are with advanced degrees. Like you said, I was talking to a lady who is in a PhD program for Cultural Studies (one of my degrees), wearing a Basquiat shirt, and when I asked her about her favorite theorist she gave me some long winded jive talk about gender and sexuality through a cultural marxist lens. Bitch that was 2nd year stuff when I went to school, the fuck are you on about? She didnt even grasp the basics. Turns out almost all her assignments for her entire education had been experiential and she wrote about her weird gay son the whole time.
Anonymous No.24651037 >>24651099 >>24651191
>>24643672
you're an incel though and you couldn't fuck one if you'd wanted to as scandanavian women are extremely looks obsessed as seen by the avg height of their men who were eugenically selected by hypergamy
Anonymous No.24651099
>>24651037
I’ll take projection for $200, Alex
Anonymous No.24651191
>>24651037
kek this fag's life revolves around women
Anonymous No.24651272
Do you guys never just once think that this whole thing is just a bunch of meaningless crap borne from some kind of craving?
Anonymous No.24651707
>>24647408
Everyone in tech is always saying shit like "for we manipulate electrons, the fundamental bits of reality, and create digital entities beyond comprehension" and then you see they're the guy who makes the clickable buttons at bay area payroll processor #4892
Anonymous No.24651717 >>24651744 >>24653102
>>24643096 (OP)
>If you work at a university, or even if you're a student: do you see that gender studies continues to dominate? Do you find their arguments compelling?
in a university in the southeastern US. gender studies/race studies dominate. everyone's queering Kant or investigating the poetics of black trans queer they/thems etc. broadly I think their arguments are compelling -- yeah, blacks got it real bad, society's real racist, women have it real bad too, society's real sexist -- but it gets really predictable. Best of all are the people who seem to genuinely think they're hastening the revolution by publishing critical examinations of obscure native two-spirit sonneteers or whatever the fuck
Anonymous No.24651744
>>24651717
This is how you know this line of thinking is on the way out. Though it's a bit generous to call Southern schools "universities", the popularity of gender studies, queer theory, etc. in intellectual backwaters like these institutions are signs of its imminent irrelevance.
Anonymous No.24653102
>>24651717
Everyone who is studying black militance 1980-2005 is not publishing. And they're not publishing for a reason.