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Anonymous No.24644053 >>24644114 >>24644203 >>24644214 >>24644758 >>24648419 >>24652278 >>24653277
>And one of the things that is so fascinating - one of the reasons I love being a clinician is people are insanely interesting once they tell you the truth. Everyone's a Dostoevsky character. Crazily complex and this is true even for people - for so-called 'simple people'. There's no such thing as a simple human being. There are people who are less verbally sophisticated, and less cognitively sophisticated for that matter, but that doesn't mean they're without their depth.
Anonymous No.24644114
>>24644053 (OP)
That is a nice quote
Anonymous No.24644128 >>24644146
Peterson wasn't really that bad until he went insane.
Anonymous No.24644146 >>24644157 >>24644310 >>24649415 >>24650287 >>24650755 >>24650795 >>24653296
>>24644128
he's evidence that social and political theory are cognitive hazards that rot the soul
Anonymous No.24644157 >>24644174 >>24649415 >>24650129 >>24653296
>>24644146
Or, at least, that they're not for everyone.

I do feel like the average Anon can cope with that sort of stuff more than Peterson ultimately could. We deal with this stuff on a fairly regular basis but it's blatantly evident that it melts a normalfag's brain. That really is the ultimate divide, I think, between an Anon and a Normalfag. Whether you can deal with all the insanity of the internet and not go insane yourself.
Anonymous No.24644174 >>24644294 >>24644307 >>24648329 >>24649798 >>24650777
>>24644157
You think people on this site are mentally well?
Anonymous No.24644203
>>24644053 (OP)
I think the way he dissects Bible passages, he's got a real knack for that. I was listening to him talk about Moses and the burning bush, and it was really interesting hearing him explain it
Anonymous No.24644214 >>24649394
>>24644053 (OP)
>There's no such thing as a simple human being
I dont know, Pete, you were pretty clear-cut once the right Israelis began bribing you.
Anonymous No.24644294 >>24650129
>>24644174
I mean compared with the state of the average modern person these days... yeah? Kinda?
Anonymous No.24644306 >>24649495
Peterson's a better thinker than most on the self-absorbed arrogant do-nothings on /lit/ who convince themselves otherwise.
Anonymous No.24644307 >>24647639
>>24644174
>You think people on this site are mentally well?
I see you've never spent any time on /vg/. Good for you.

Mental illness is, tragically, not just a juvenile buzzphrase on this site. It's very, very real.
Anonymous No.24644310
>>24644146
>i'll just say this pithy thing with absolutely no justification whatsoever because i want to sound anonymously smart without sincere effort to other anonymous people
Anonymous No.24644758 >>24649394
>>24644053 (OP)
Maybe if he just went back to being a clinician everyone would be a bit happier again; he would be able to regain his wellbeing, and we wouldn't have to read his shitty zionist twitter poetry.
Anonymous No.24646659
indeed
Anonymous No.24646896
It's happened before
Anonymous No.24647639 >>24648314 >>24649415 >>24649812
>>24644307
>check board
>weeb shit as expected
>open random thread
Jesus...is /lit/, /tv/ and /ck/ the only 'sane' boards on the site?
Anonymous No.24648314
>>24647639
replace /tv/ with /vr/.
Anonymous No.24648329
>>24644174
>{statement}?
Yes. {statement}.
Anonymous No.24648410
some retards here sounding like they would like to rehabilitate Peterson's status as an intellectual because, as clinical psychiatrist, he was able to come to the astounding realisation that human beings are psychologically complex
amazing
Anonymous No.24648419
>>24644053 (OP)
>Everyone's a Dostoevsky character. Crazily complex
hahaha
Anonymous No.24649394 >>24649765
>>24644214
>>24644758
Up yours woke moralists
Anonymous No.24649405
Wow this guy was fuckin' bright, eh?
Anonymous No.24649415 >>24649495 >>24650109 >>24650709 >>24650726 >>24653291
>>24644157
>>24644146
If that was the only cause (and there were doubtlessly more given his wife’s illness that preceded his downfall), it may not even be that he couldn’t tolerate it he just couldn’t tolerate the scale of his own cult of personality. I’m sure a lot of people on this website have dreams of being on a stage somewhere talking about these issues, but doing so repeatedly and being heralded as some kind of messiah by a group of disenfranchised young men would be overwhelming to anyone. Some people just don’t have the ability to tolerate that level of focused attention. They dream of the good of doing it, but seldom if ever acknowledge the potential bad. In fact I’m a little suspicious, thought it’s probably just personal bias, of those people who can handle a cult of personality that scales that far and that fast without cracking a little. I worry about if they’re just straight up sociopathic or something to where the pressure never bothers them in the least, or they’re so low in conscientiousness that they just don’t care about how they present themselves or what they say at any given time.
>>24647639
/tv/ is as sane as /pol/, /out/ is fairly sane. Although there are more sane threads on /tv/ than /pol/
Anonymous No.24649495 >>24650280 >>24650709 >>24652178 >>24653291
>>24649415
Well put. I’ve always seen something cruel and shallow in some of the mockeries of JBP.
I hate to fall into the pit of judging people only on their outward success and status, sometimes it doesn’t work at all and wealthy/famous/powerful people can still be total degenerates and scumbags, but my thoughts on much of the more heated criticisms of JBP are in line with this poster >>24644306:
>Peterson's a better thinker than most on the self-absorbed arrogant do-nothings on /lit/ who convince themselves otherwise.
I myself also dislike that he fell into the Zionist brand of conservatism. I have my disagreements with him. But few people here or online anymore seem to have the capability of being generous critics/listeners/readers/audiences, noting where someone is saying something intelligent and interesting even if one disagrees with them on parts.
Anonymous No.24649765 >>24649804
>>24649394
I never understood why this became a meme. His anger in this video was justified considering he was banned on Twitter for no meaningful reason and his fears of censorship (stemming Bill C-16) were validated.
Anonymous No.24649798 >>24650116 >>24650129 >>24650716 >>24651917
>>24644174
As compared to who? Normies who line up for goyslop, consoom, coom, white knight for troons, get cucked by whores and just agree with whatever agenda is fucked up their assholes without any question as long as they get good boy points? Most people are zombies
Anonymous No.24649804
>>24649765
I think it was more the delivery. There were a million more normal ways to deliver the same message with the same anger than what he did. At least from what I remember. Maybe it's less cringe than what I recall
Anonymous No.24649812
>>24647639
I agree. I've been on many boards and /lit/ is pretty "normal". I'd add /vr/ to that list.
Anonymous No.24650109
>>24649415
This. The attention wears on you over time. Even if you handle it successfully at first (as Peterson did for a year or two), the public focus, including both adulation and contempt, means that you have to be 'on' all the time, and most of us aren't built to deal with that over time. Most of us probably *could* handle 15 minutes or fame, but 15 weeks starts to push it, and 15 months will push most to the breaking point, especially if it is constant, and especially if there are other issues to deal with (for Peterson, his family, then his benzos).
Anonymous No.24650116
>>24649798
>As comapred to who?
>*starts spamming deranged internet buzzwords*
yep
Anonymous No.24650129 >>24650134 >>24651917
>>24644157
>>24644294
>>24649798
You niggas are delusional, there'll be some freaks spamming about jews and satanism and cuck porn and troons in every thread on every board on this site
Anonymous No.24650134 >>24650150 >>24650195 >>24650759
>>24650129
What's really funny is when anons accuse each other of being recognizable named schizoposters. Like the ubiquitous "Eric" of /v/ or the "baskinfag" that perpetrated a reign of terror on /tv/
Anonymous No.24650150
>>24650134
Anonymous No.24650195
>>24650134
>ubiquitous
Doesn't even begin to describe it
Anonymous No.24650280
>>24649495
He's entertaining and smart, he says dumb things in an intelligent way.
Anonymous No.24650287 >>24650795
>>24644146
You know that and the drugs.
Anonymous No.24650288 >>24650290 >>24650293 >>24650294 >>24650325 >>24650763 >>24651900
his original claim to fame was being a whiny baby bitch throwing a tantrum because he was expected, in his role as an educator, to respect his students gender pronoun requests... or more succinctly: to respect his students

that dumb gay baby then had the audacity to run around with his newfound fame spouting a philosophy of telling people to "clean their rooms"

why anyone would continue giving a hypocritical retard like that their praise or even just attention is beyond me
Anonymous No.24650290
>>24650288
he made insightful commentary on stories
Anonymous No.24650293
>>24650288
Gender theory isn't real and people aren't born in the wrong bodies. The entire tranny shit is the biggest gnostic hoodwinking of the century so far.
Anonymous No.24650294 >>24651894
>>24650288
Wasn't he completely right about his original concerns though? That this at first seemingly innocuous request to honor someone's prefered pronouns would ultimately lead to more and more free speech violations to the point where the Canadian government will now outright jail people if you decide you aren't going to play along with someone's delusions?
Anonymous No.24650303
>clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
>academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
>research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
>university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
>assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
>accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing !3! best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
inb4
>he's a drug addict tho!
>his office was messy once!
>er...you don't have a dad!
>er...wash your dick!
>his daughter is a slut!
>y-you're Jordan
>he likes the Jews!
>he's controlled opposition!
Still triggering trannies who don't like the truth, libtards who propagandize, racists he won't associate with, and pseuds who can't tell the difference between a media personality and real life
Anonymous No.24650325 >>24650330
>>24650288
History will remember JP kindly if that's his greatest crime, considering the far left gender stuff is already on its way out and the pendulum has started swinging back way sooner than most expected.
Anonymous No.24650330 >>24650358
>>24650325
History will remember Jordan Peterson (fully typed out btw) like they do Charles Ponzi.
Anonymous No.24650358 >>24650768 >>24652133
>>24650330
You think? Seems to me that today Peterson is mostly known for 2 things, standing up against far left anti-free speech activists back in 2015-2020 when the left went completely off the deep end; and him being a drug addicted, neurotic internet personality who cries a lot during interviews. He's certainly not viewed in a positive manner by many people on both sides of the political spectrum, but even they don't usually think of him as a scam artist. At worst you can say that he knew how to monetize his internet fame by writing books and giving seminars, but that's not scamming people, that's just pandering to an audience and selling them stuff. Like when you donate money to multi millionaire Hasan Piker.
Anonymous No.24650697
i have not once encountered someone criticizing peterson and not look like a complete moron at the same time. i looked forward to the debate with cizek to finally have someone somewhat intelligent challenge him but in the end there wasn't a debate and cizek really didn't care about confronting peterson at all and it appeared like he just really wanted to discuss the kind of theoretical marxism which only scholars care about

the midwit comment section on the other hand was gloating about how he secretly owned peterson and attributed all kinds of malice to cizek to a point where it was simply unironic projection
Anonymous No.24650709
>>24649415
>>24649495
I don't know, I feel like criticising him for his post-fame antics is fair game. Coping badly with the attention is one thing, waking up at 2am to write about how much you're seething over getting banned off twitter is another thing entirely. Also "Up yours woke moralists! We'll see who cancels who[m]." And then his suits are just flagrant extravagance.
Anonymous No.24650716
>>24649798
So /gif/ and /pol/
Anonymous No.24650726
>>24649415
Just don't accept shekels. Say your piece and then leave.
Anonymous No.24650755
>>24644146
He was a boomer who wasn't ready for cancel culture. That's his entire problem.
He started taking drugs, instead of saying "fuck off, retard".
Anonymous No.24650759
>>24650134
Those people have really obvious patterns though.
Only question is whether it's really one guy, or some kind of coordinated effort, or if their are copycats.
Anonymous No.24650763
>>24650288
Just because we're all beaten down and used to it by now, doesn't mean being told you have to call a man a woman, even when you know they aren't one, isn't creepy and Orwellian.
I'm not even necessarily opposed to doing it, to be nice, I just don't want threats of legal action hanging over my head.
Anonymous No.24650768 >>24650918
>>24650358
The whole "grifter" meme is such a hastily constructed cope.
>if you make money by expressing any kind of opinion, they aren't your own opinions
Okay, Zizek should stop selling his books for money then. Bell Hooks should stop selling her books for money. Contrapoints and Hasan Piker should stop monetizing videos.
>oh no, when they do it, it's just an individual coping with the realities of existing under capitalism. People need to eat!
Yeah.
Anonymous No.24650777
>>24644174
Having no reaction to living in this world is called being mentally stable when really it’s a sign of low sentience.
Anonymous No.24650795
>>24644146
>>24650287
It's mostly the drugs.
Anonymous No.24650918 >>24651053
>>24650768
Troons say this about everyone because they're concern trolling
>uhmmm I'm a heckin chud who hates jews but even I think [slightly right wing personality] is a grifter and we shouldn't listen to him basedbros
Anonymous No.24651053
>>24650918
The only grifters I see are people who basically fence-sit, because being too extreme is an actual threat to profits. All of those "I'm a classic liberal" media critic guys like Critical Drinker are pretty much grifters, sure.
If you're out there saying stuff that can actually put your life or livelihood at risk, you aren't a grifter. It's so much easier to go with the flow, and make money.
Anonymous No.24651894
>>24650294
>the Canadian government will now outright jail people
point me to one (1) instance of this happening. I'll give you not only Canada but the entire, "woke-crazed" Western hemisphere to pick from
Anonymous No.24651900
>>24650288
>to respect his students gender pronoun requests
So not encouraging his students mental illness? Sounds reasonable.
Anonymous No.24651917
>>24650129
>niggas
>spamming about jews and satanism and cuck porn and troons

You're exactly what >>24649798 is talking about. I hate people like you with every fiber of my being, as do the rest of 4chan users. Please go back to fucking plebbit.
Anonymous No.24652133
>>24650358
Jordan Peterson took a doctor prescribed medication. There is no evidence he was abusing it or taking it in a higher dosage than directed by his physician. He experienced a severe side effect from said medication culminating in his seeking treatment in 2018. This side effect and symptoms related to it were not listed on the medication until 2019--after Peterson had gone public about his symptoms.

In a nutshell, Jordan Peterson sustained a neurological injury from his medication. This affected his immune system and his body began reacting to random foods he normally had no problem consuming. For example, people who experience the same side effect will have histamine responses to food and drink they were not allergic to in the past. Basically, their body has seemingly random immunological responses that vary in severity and degree. On top of this there are also adverse effects on the regulation of the parasympathetic nervous system. As far as the later is concerned psychological symptoms arise (e.g. a sense of dread/terror, lack of impulse control, sleep regulation, appetite regulation, etc).

When Peterson stopped taking his medication due to the above he experienced severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not due to an "addiction" but rather a physical dependency that commonly arises from wide range of medications. Akathisia is one of the worst of such symptoms as it creates an insatiable sense of restlessness. This is not simple anxiety although anxiety may arise due to akathisia which is itself a motor disorder. The reason this symptom is labelled "subjective" is because it is qualitative and patient reported. The pain one has during a migraine or a cluster headache is also "subjective"--this doesn't mean the pain doesn't exist.

Peterson sought treatment in Canada but was given a poor diagnosis and thereby sought treatment at a specialized facility that developed an experimental treatment regimen specific to the symptoms he was experiencing. He was put into a comatose state so as to negate extreme withdrawal symptoms and to avoid further neurological damage. The treatment was a success and in the years since he has continued with him life and found success in multiple endeavors.

People who want to attack Peterson try to label him as a drug addict. In so doing, they wish to bring in the connotations associated with addiction as a way to defame him. In realty, Peterson had a physical dependency on medication, as many people do, AND had a server side effect, unknown at the time, that compounded the dangers of simply tapering off the drug. No loaded language is needed to describe what actually happened; an appeal to the facts at hand alongside information relating to such experiences themselves suffice.

Here's a medical doctor who specializes in the treatment of medication withdrawal explaining exactly what Peterson went through:

https://youtu.be/C_32icvWpIg
Anonymous No.24652178
>>24649495
He successfully made himself into a philosopher-figure, which is a commendable feat in our anti-intellectual culture, but I do not think his ideas are insightful enough to justify their popularity. I think his personal failures are far more interesting than anything he says; it is at once humorous and tragic to see a man repeatedly fail at realizing fantasies fed to him by his own followers.
Anonymous No.24652278 >>24653098
>>24644053 (OP)
juden peterstein
Anonymous No.24653098 >>24653168 >>24653711
>>24652278
Daring today, aren't we?
Anonymous No.24653168
>>24653098
Today we adress the digital neurotransmitter inducing
Anonymous No.24653179
>Jordan is watching you take a bath
Anonymous No.24653277
>>24644053 (OP)
>golem finds out other people have consciousness
Anonymous No.24653291
>>24649415
>>24649495
He brought this upon himself, hired entertainment management (same people who boost all major celebrities). Feel sympathy by all means but don't treat him like a helpless victim. He's been a very mediocre influence on the world and simps hard for the genocidal maniac Netanyahu
Anonymous No.24653296
>>24644146
>>24644157
This is a good point. I used to judge people for not being open minded but realized it was probably preventing them from going insane (since I who am abnormally openminded and consider myself pretty strong have approached insanity (probably not close but who knows)). People are kind of just victims of their social context. It sucks but that's how it is.
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Anonymous No.24653711
>>24653098
Find another site to sully, you evil coward