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Anonymous No.24645984 >>24646249 >>24648311 >>24648330 >>24648347 >>24648563 >>24648887 >>24649361 >>24649375 >>24649587 >>24649902 >>24649998 >>24650032
Judge Holden
Was he Satan?
Anonymous No.24646001
Anonymous No.24646180 >>24646188
He did it all for the nookie
Anonymous No.24646185 >>24646235
No. He literally was not Satan. Hope this helps!
Anonymous No.24646188
>>24646180
this
Anonymous No.24646207
He was satan from paradise lost. Blood Meridian is just Milton fanfiction set in the backdrop of a stinking desert.
Anonymous No.24646235
>>24646185
he was
Anonymous No.24646249
>>24645984 (OP)
No, he was the Christ figure. The hermit is Satan:
>They is four things that can destroy the earth. Women, whiskey, money and Niggers!
Anonymous No.24646744 >>24648356
He's the whale from Moby Dick
Anonymous No.24646828
I just started reading this because I'm tired of seeing anons talk about it and not knowing what's going on.
>3 pages in
>Judge shows up, accuses man of raping a child
>Chaos ensues
>He didn't even know the man whom he accused
>Fucks off to get wasted at a bar
>When he reveals he made the whole thing up, nobody is mad
>they congratulate him and buy him drinks
He's not Satan, he's a feminist.
Anonymous No.24648311
>>24645984 (OP)
did a video essayist tell you that?
Anonymous No.24648330 >>24648359
>>24645984 (OP)
No, he's the personification of violence & war, aka God.
Anonymous No.24648347
>>24645984 (OP)
He was Santa
Anonymous No.24648356
>>24646744
he's much more like ahab. the whale is good
Anonymous No.24648359 >>24648371
>>24648330
Middle-school take.
Anonymous No.24648371
>>24648359
That's quite literally what the Judge says in the book though.
Anonymous No.24648563 >>24648583
>>24645984 (OP)
He's the personification of the 20th century, perhaps a modern manifestation of primordial brutality. He has all this sophistication and learning, but behind it all he only uses it to continue senseless bloodshed and violence, ostensibly for no reason other than to see what happens (war is god, the ultimate game).
Anonymous No.24648583 >>24648765 >>24649404
>>24648563
>personification of the 20th century
The book is set in the 19th century
Anonymous No.24648765
>>24648583
yeah I think that's the point anon was making, he represents the hideous future
Anonymous No.24648887 >>24649031
>>24645984 (OP)
Most likely the personification of Man's true nature. He's not just a brutal killer, he's also a rapist, a liar, manipulator etc etc. It's also part of the reason why he hates Kid (big emphasis on the name, kids/children are innocent and good natured by default) as he (the adult man's corrupted nature) doesn't hold power over him, also showcased in the last part of the book where a mature* Kid meets the Judge again and gets killed in an embrace*. He finally loses his innocence and accepts Man's true and ugly nature in an utterly horrific act, he abducts the little girl and rapes/murders her and discards her body in the outhouse.

You could say that the Judge is Satan as they're both different personifications of the same thing.
Anonymous No.24649031 >>24649035 >>24649073
>>24648887
So it's an edgy overcomplicated retelling of Peter Pan in the old west where Peter Pan gets raped to death by Captain Hook?
Anonymous No.24649035
>>24649031
*shits a fart*
Anonymous No.24649073
>>24649031
You could say that, but Blood Meridian does a way better job. McCarthy focuses more on (pretty accurately I might say) depicting Man's nature. He portrays Man's desire for knowledge and wisdom but also his depravity, he is fascinated by nature but also utterly despises it (the bird scene), he showcases his impeccable reasoning but also his unpredictable impulsiveness. I know it sounds clichΓ©d but Blood Meridian is a masterpiece.
Anonymous No.24649318
Yaldabaoth
Anonymous No.24649361
>>24645984 (OP)
I hope not, that would make it boring. plus he actually is based on a real person.
Anonymous No.24649375
>>24645984 (OP)
Blood Meridian is my favorite book and I hate what that Wendigoon video did to it.
Anonymous No.24649404
>>24648583
The setting doesn't mean McCarthy ignored the century in which he lived. Similar ideas (abandoning traditional morality in an attempt to "progress" but ultimately just reverting to savagery) have their roots in the 18th and 19th centuries, anyway (Crime and Punishment, for example, a 19th century novel, discusses it quite a bit), such as with the French Revolution, Socialism, Darwinism, American manifest destiny, and Napoleonic conquest, but it really came to a head with the world wars. A lot of people talk about a similar disillusionment occurring when 9/11 occurred.
Anonymous No.24649463
He is the embodiment of white supremacy
Anonymous No.24649492
He's Yaldabaoth. Taking notes for his second attempt
Anonymous No.24649587
>>24645984 (OP)
Behold, media literacy.
Anonymous No.24649902
>>24645984 (OP)
The Judge is the brains capacity for pure reason applied to the self. In the way the novel conceptualises mankind, on some level everyone knows they're evil, or would be if they had different incentives, that's what your capacity for reason figures out about yourself in the first instance. But people don't like to believe this, so this knowledge gets repressed and sublimated, laundered and papered over and from that you get the illusion and inconsistent practice of morality in daily life. The Judge is haunting because he's meant to represent the natural conclusion you would come to, being as smart as you are, that you have had to forget and work to unknow. He's your reason alone judging you.

Early in the book the conversation the kid has with the hermit reflects this. The mind can't fully know the mind, because it only has the mind to know it with. But the mind can in theory know the heart, but it doesn't want to, and you shouldn't try to know it. The Judge is the mind knowing the heart. That knowledge is never going away, always dancing on over and back around the edge of conscious perception, never dying and promising ultimate doom to all of our efforts to distance ourselves from the state of nature and the spoiling the belief that we can be in some way saved.
Anonymous No.24649998
>>24645984 (OP)
No that was Tobin
Anonymous No.24650032
>>24645984 (OP)
No, he's Yakub.