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Anonymous No.24647285 >>24647319 >>24649509 >>24649528 >>24651372
>first two stories are about pedophiles
>third story is about getting blue balled by your uncle and the schedule of a kitschy bazaar
Is this really the best of Irish writing? Dublin sounds like a horridly boring place
Gigajanny No.24647290 >>24647299 >>24647451 >>24649477 >>24651277
By order, plot fags will be condemned the following: anal pear (heated), strappado (in which the shoulders will be broken), the-bursting-of-the-eardrums, racking, denailing, the burning of the eyes with embers, the taking of the tongue, and finally castration, in which the sex-organs shall be placed in the mouth of the condemned, before being asked: 'what was the story about?' if he can describe the ordeal satisfactorily, he will be released; if not — he will be drowned.
Anonymous No.24647299 >>24647311
>>24647290
>anti-plotfaggotry
Refuted by Aristotle
Gigajanny No.24647311
>>24647299
Plotfag, you have one chance to prove your case. Should you fail, the punishment shall commence.
Anonymous No.24647319 >>24647324
>>24647285 (OP)
The first story is about a pedophile? It's about a kid first learning the concept of death.
>Is this really the best of Irish writing?
No, that would be Finnegans Wake.
Anonymous No.24647324 >>24647334 >>24649374
>>24647319
Father Flynn is a pedo that was leering at the narrator and making him feel uncomfortable, which is why the narration comes off as curious and overall happy at his death rather than mourning
>Finnegans Wake
Nobody's actually read and understood it, so no
Anonymous No.24647334 >>24647342 >>24651446
>>24647324
>Father Flynn is a pedo
Textual evidence?
>Nobody's actually read
Lots of people have
Anonymous No.24647342 >>24647746 >>24647889
>>24647334
>Textual evidence?
Not going to spoon-feed you, the story is like 10 pages.
>Lots of people have
It's one of those books that people performatively claim to read on this site and xitter like War and Peace, Infinite Jest, and other sloppa because they think the nerdy women of their dreams will fuck them if they look so heckin cultured
Anonymous No.24647451
>>24647290
I got hard reading this
Anonymous No.24647453 >>24650723
They were pedos?
Anonymous No.24647746 >>24647888
>>24647342
>It's one of those books that people performatively claim to read on this site and xitter like War and Peace, Infinite Jest, and other sloppa because they think the nerdy women of their dreams will fuck them if they look so heckin cultured
I didn't realize you were a retard, sorry bro
Anonymous No.24647888 >>24647947 >>24652321
>>24647746
You've never read any of those anon, nobody has. But I 100% assure you there were men lounging in some speakeasy in Brooklyn last night with Infinite Jest in hand in hopes that some crunchy white girl from a liberal arts achool would walk in and instantly squirt in her dress seeing him read the heckin book
Anonymous No.24647889
>>24647342
>won't provide evidence
You're full of shit
Anonymous No.24647947
>>24647888
I read infinite jest and the only person who commented on it was some dude at the laundromat
Anonymous No.24647948 >>24651628
Did you think the main character in Clay was meant to be retarded? The narrator reminded me of Lenny, and that she(?) is even simpler than the narrator of The Dead. Does she(?) have alzheimers?
Anonymous No.24648204
I'm becoming a god
Anonymous No.24648223 >>24648475 >>24651265
I'm from Dublin and I am horridly boring person. Today I went sold my shitty old Xbox One then went to the library as the shop said they were testing lots of equipment and mine wouldn't be finished until two. I had a book in my back by Colm Toibin so I finished it in the library, had a smoke, and got some coffee in McDonald's. Once I got the money I bought a magazine and hit the charity shops for cassette tapes and maybe a book or two. The charity shop had terrible cassettes so I bought two books, one a Cormac McCarthy, and went to the record/board game shop and picked up two cassettes. Then I got the bus home and relaxed for half an hour and enjoyed a coffee before walking my dogs. That was at about half 3 and for the past two hours or so I've been listening to cassettes and started reading The War of the Worlds. I'm writing a play at the moment so I'll mull over that for a while now and hopefully get a few good lines written.
Anonymous No.24648475 >>24651265
>>24648223
Given sufficient time, bandwidth, NEET laziness, and retardation, one might easily write over 9000 posts about 5 hours of life.
Anonymous No.24649374 >>24650842
>>24647324
>filtered by Dubliners
>feels entitled to comment on Finnegans Wake
Anonymous No.24649477
>>24647290
Based
Anonymous No.24649509 >>24650692
>>24647285 (OP)
I read one of these stories and it was just a few lads having a nice night out. Was a comfy read even though nothing happened.
Anonymous No.24649528 >>24649550
>>24647285 (OP)

I've stalled out over the past three weeks for personal reasons, but I am preparing a comprehensive comparison of all the similarities and details among the stories with a slow, close re-reading. A few quick observations that I remember from my notes thus far:

-teeth, nostrils and the color yellow are mentioned frequently and consistently throughout the stories. Nasty old men's yellowed teeth, yellowed photos and so forth indicate age, and later on younger people's nice white teeth are described instead. Nasty old men's nostrils and other nostril-talk give way to less unpleasant descriptions of a young woman's nostrils (IIRC), or simply the the old woman's long beak itself in Clay.

In the first few stories, we're meant to confuse and conflate the various priest-pervert types, thinking they might possibly be the same person, but there are certain details which seem to either rule this out or at least suggest that they're not the same person (different street locations and timing of events, although these locations are very close to each other).

My main personal objective is to internalize the characters a bit more so that I have a clearer idea on the who's who for minor charaters in Ulysses (Lenehan is one memorable example). There's a concordance for "Ulysses appearances" in the back but I want to do it my own way, again to internalize it.
Anonymous No.24649550 >>24649917 >>24650696
>>24649528
Is Lenehan even a minor character? He's probably the fifth most important character in Ulysses, after Bloom, Stephen, Molly, and Mulligan
Anonymous No.24649917
>>24649550
Mulligan isn't even a major character in Ulysses
Anonymous No.24650692
>>24649509
I think you probably need to read it again.
Anonymous No.24650696
>>24649550
Don't forget Pisser Burke.
Anonymous No.24650723 >>24650846
>>24647453
In "An Encounter" the boys run into an old pervert who tells them he wants to beat misbehaving young boys, loves to look at little girls, and gets himself so worked up he walks away to beat off.,
Anonymous No.24650842 >>24651661
>>24649374
Finnegan's Wake sounds too complicated, probably not worth it.
Anonymous No.24650846 >>24652119 >>24652825
>>24650723
Ok but why was the priest a pedo?
Anonymous No.24651265
>>24648223
>>24648475
kino
Anonymous No.24651277
>>24647290
The rare based frogposter
Anonymous No.24651372
>>24647285 (OP)
The first story does have pedophile connotations but I've read some interpretation which says it could be about syphilis as well, I think the second one is much obvious.
Anonymous No.24651386
>getting filtered by Araby
lmao what a fuckwit
Anonymous No.24651446
>>24647334
>Textual evidence?
More like contextual evidence: Father Flynn is a Catholic priest, after all.
Anonymous No.24651628
>>24647948
The notes in my version convey an implication that she was a prostitute before getting old.
Anonymous No.24651661
>>24650842
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Anonymous No.24652119 >>24652836
>>24650846
That I don't know if I agree with, the priest definitely did something but the impression I got was that he was just whoring or something.
Anonymous No.24652321
>>24647888
you reek of insecurity retard, like half of us have read those books
Anonymous No.24652825
>>24650846

This is never overtly stated in the first story, but the narrator (an unnamed boy, who had no personal complaints about him) notes that he was just a bit weird, and would sort of leave his mouth hanging open, or lick his lips in a way that seemed odd, etc. Also, there's a lodger who stays with the boy's family who disapproves of the priest (and by extension, the boy's friendly relationship with him), although the lodger is not precise as to exactly why, saying simply that boys should be running around and playing outside. The priest (Flynn) is also a bit mysterious. He hasn't been disgraced, but he doesn't seem to be active with any particular church at the moment. When he dies, one character asks whether he received all the proper priestly burial and after-death treatment. Of course a priest would normally get all those routine sendings-off, as a note observes. The very fact that she asks at all is an indication that she intuits there might be a possibility that he wouldn't get the usual send-off and appropriate, honorable burial for a priest etc, but the whole point is that this is a subtle cue, not overt.
Anonymous No.24652836
>>24652119

Also, the priest's paralysis is commonly accepted as a metaphor for Ireland itself, the Irish people, but it may also be a symptom of syphilis IIRC, to your point. He might have been doing a bit of conventional whoring, whether with certain women or literal prostitute(s).