Thread 24651182

What are the best and/or most famous /lit/ examples of each?

>>24651182 (OP)
>>24651183
>>24651184
>>24651185
I wouldn't know

>>24651182 (OP)
50 Shades
Rance

>>24651182 (OP)
Yeats said that one's ideal is a counter balance to the features of one's nature

>>24651182 (OP)
We've done this thread before.

>>24651182 (OP)
Men’s fantasies are also frequently violent and degrading towards women. The difference is that men’s fantasies make them detestable cretins prone to violent extremism, but women’s fantasies are just fantasies and how dare you assume that this means anything at all about their character

>>24651182 (OP)
MEN:
>Mushoku Tensei.
>The Sound of Waves
>every shonen
>most hentai
WOMEN:
>What Was She Thinking?
>Anna Karenina
>Snow Country
>The Piano Teacher
>pride y prejudice
>Tokio Blues: Norwegian Wood

>>24651488
>Anna Karenina
>romance

>>24651812
Yes, cheating is romance for women, but it has a bad end.

>>24651488
Who the fuck reads Anna Karenina and thinks it's a romance are you some faggot ukrainian trying to shit on Russian literature

>>24651826
It's a realist novel and you are a faggot who is too retarded to comprehend masterpieces.

>>24651826
>cheating is romance for women
>NTR is LITERALLY targeted at men

>>24651840
NTR are written mostly by women, anon.

>>24651848
The target audience is men.

>>24651827
>>24651836

>>24651848
It's listed in the men's section at DLsite

>>24651812
>>24651827
It's a romance for the women that read it.

>>24651182 (OP)
1: Captive in the Dark
2: Any Isekai Manga

>>24651430
yes, anon. in the real world, people understand that fantasies are not reality and do not reflect how a person would behave in a real situation. you might try looking into that.

>>24652286
In the real world fantasies are being so thoroughly policed and repressed that people are electing not to fuck at all, for fear of actualisation. That is, at least for certain segments of the population.

>>24651182 (OP)
>>24651430

>>24651182 (OP)
>What are the best and/or most famous /lit/ examples of each?
Virginia Woolfe
JD Salinger

>>24653094
He rapes his sister, Phoebe.

>>24652566
Every time I see this image, it gets a bit tinier.

>>24652566
What you fail to realize is that I am the world’s foremost woman understander

>>24651182 (OP)
women really be like this

>>24653839
because women really hate themself and other women.

>>24651848
>>24651856
The target audience for ntr are cucks or people that self insert as the guy doing the cucking

>>24653839
To be fair I think some men would also be into a 7ft tall emo goth serial killer girl that only likes them.

>>24654084
This except 1,50 m / 40 kg.
Cat ears and tail optional.

>>24651182 (OP)
The bottom one you'd only find in delusional weeb shit (Just watch the thread, not a single literature example), real man romance has monogamous relationships

>>24652566
Stoner needs to be added to this graphic

>>24651488
>>Mushoku Tensei.
I think I made it about halfway through the 2nd or 3rd episode before turning it off in disgust. It was very degenerate but not in a way that even possessed literary merit. It was essentially pornography. I got the impression it was well on its way to this 34yr old man in a little kids body molesting or raping another little boy, and iirc after looking it up online that was in fact exactly what happened later in the story. Really despicable trash.

>>24654297
>he becomes a better person.
>3 wives.
>6 Kids.

>>24651211
Rape
VS
Rape

>>24654297
>Mushoku Tensei.

MT fans are really involved in their groomer incest isekai

>>24654262
Its impossible to love a woman

>>24654624
I wish that was true anon, I wish I could just be with a twink who shares my interests, but alas, love for a woman is real, even if it only happens once in a lifetime.

>>24654624
>It's impossible to love as a woman

Fixed it

>>24652286
>that's not really me it was just a fantasy
>that's not really me it was just an intrusive thought
>that's not really me it was just a symptom of [disorder]
>i'm really completely different than all evidence would suggest

>>24651182 (OP)
Why the fuck is one of them a cat?

>>24654297
Anime/Manga becoming western mainstream was a major mistake.

>>24654635
Man youre lucky then i wish u 2 the best.

no one has named any serious lit of the second category im waiting

>>24654672
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those people who wants it to be censored or watered down. By all means let them draw out whatever weird fantasies they have in peace. But I don't think I can ever find loli/shota etc anything but extremely despicable and utterly lacking in artistic merit, just my opinion.

>>24651836
women cheating is realistic

>>24654084
Only if they're autistic and/or a furry

>>24651182 (OP)
I maybe too much of a sperg, but I find it weird that people do not separate love/romance from lust.

>>24651876
Are these women in the room with us right now?

The women I've talked to about it think the story is a train wreck (ha, ha). Seriously, the story is deliberately unsexy in the extreme. Anna's sex life with her husband is bland and unpleasant. Vronsky is at first alluring, but that lasts for maybe a quarter of the book and the rest of it is hundreds of pages of slow, grinding misery. Vronsky and Anna are barely touching by the end of it. And even in the first section, the whole affair is less of a spark and more of sheer desperation.

All of this is obviously by design. It's a cautionary tale from a conservative Russian. "Hey, you know all those French stories about how hot it is to cheat? Well, here's a story about cheating for you. Have fun." Hidden subtext: Tsar Alexander missed his chance to wipe out the frog menace once and for all.

>>24651876
>anon is on /lit/
>anon did not read AK
>anon has opinions about AK
Holy motherfucking shit nigger 50% of that book is a sad nerdyboy going
>muh soul
>muh fate
>muh crops
>muh agricultural improvement
and being too shy to marry a cute quite girl until he finally decides to marry a cute quiet girl and makes a tradwife out of her and they have a boring loveless marriage where the nerd just keeps stuffing her full of children and being autistic about muh crops in muh village and Tolstoy deliberately presents it as the Bestest Thing Ever in contrast to Anna's drama shitstorm.

This is what you describe as "romance for the women that read it". Holy fuck I will never not rofl at niggers who forget that Levin's half of the book exists.

>>24656681

Without lust there is no love.

>>24656968
My lusts are not conducive for love.

>>24656796
>This is what you describe as "romance for the women that read it".

look it from women perspective.
>Anna's drama shitstorm is pure emotion for them.
>Emotions good, boring life bad.
>Romance is about emotions.
>no give a fuck about consecuenses if they dont affect them
>Anna's drama shitstorm = romance
> Levin's half of the book = boring shit
>Anna bad ending is better that boring shit.
>women hate accountability, and anna die without any real accountability.

Do you really think the book would be popular with women if Anna didn't die before her new marriage fell apart?

Basically, she did what she did and left before the real consequences came to light.

>>24657160
I don't remember, but does the novel actual say anything about how Anna's sluttery might have affected her son?

>>24656968
I see lust as a strong desire for sex but not compromise/intimacy, just an itch to scratch (the ol' pump and dump). If you see it beyond the carnality it stops being lust and it's just a natural, even healthy impulse.

>>24654645
Yes, part of the human condition.

>>24657442
Falling back on essentialism when convenient is a beautiful cop-out.

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but the closest I can come up with when it comes to "real" literature is this, though the setting's gender dynamics mean it doesn't really closely match the bottom.

>>24651182 (OP)
Isn't the women's one basically Wuthering Heights? Heathcliff treats Cathy like shit, right?

>>24658818
Does the novel really present Heathcliff as a credible romantic lead rather than an exciting but toxic Byronic hero?

>>24653839
This but unironically

>>24656681
Women literally do not know the difference unless they have it clear in their mind they will never see you again. But to them anything sexual will eventually lead to them falling in love

>>24658702
I read this and found it quite satisfactory for masturbation.

>>24651182 (OP)
my smut and idk the second

Does The Wheel of Time count as an example of the latter?

>>24654665
I have never seen any cat who walks on two legs and wears gym shorts.

QUICK TELL ME A ROMANCE NOVEL FOR MEN!!!!!!

>>24651211
spbp

>>24661665
A cat is fine, too.