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Anonymous No.24653359 >>24653966
what are the best historiographic books that talk about the dispersion of ethnic groups after the fracture of the roman empire?
i've begun to take an interest in what happened to all the various groups that lived in the city of ancient rome after the fact
Anonymous No.24653361 >>24653368
All are probably at least partly wrong given Gunnar Heinsohn's research that found three roman eras to be contemporary not successive
Anonymous No.24653368 >>24653570
>>24653361
can you tell me more?
Anonymous No.24653570 >>24653857
>>24653368
Heinsohn felt confused by comparing supposed accepted historical timelines when they lead to the same types of architechture being repeated three times over the first millenium AD.
He investigated further and found more evidence from such things as jewelery and roof tiles or the lack of sewers where there should have been sewers.

It led him to conclude that somehow several hundred years perhaps as much as 700 had been invented in the first millenium between I think 200 and 930 when there was evidence from a vast dark soil layer of some huge cataclysm that devastated an immense area from britain to egypt and beyond all the way out through the steppes which for some reason had been ignored.

Here he outlines his ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c876lPZ-UZU
You can find his translated writings on q-mag
https://www.q-mag.org/gunnar-heinsohns-latest.html
He passed away a few years ago so I'm curious how many other have extended his work in that time.
Anonymous No.24653857 >>24654353
>>24653570
Sounds pretty schizo.
Anonymous No.24653966
>>24653359 (OP)
>dispersion of ethnic groups
Did this really happen? Rather, it was the various ethnic groups that converged on Rome: Goths, Vandals, Huns, Lombards etc.
The actual Romans, who had become pretty mongrelised by that time, just interbred further with the invaders.
The drastic depopulation of Italy was caused by successive wars and famines, not the dispersal of its inhabitants.
Anonymous No.24654353
>>24653857
>Sounds pretty schizo.
That's the problem. Usually you could think that but Heinsohn was an incredibly steady mainstream historian with pretty much unmatched credentials. He's using hard evidence like soil layer stratigraphy to support his claims.

If you want more schizo takes there are guys like the russian Anatoli Fomenko with his astronomy based approach.
Anonymous No.24655349
The christian schisms saw lots of the formerly closely tied and interrelated world of the eastern Empire and neighbors go their own separate ways