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Anonymous No.24658289 >>24658302 >>24658305 >>24658346 >>24658496 >>24658556 >>24660235 >>24660279 >>24660397
DUNE
Why does this series make normies so uncomfortable?

No his retarded son's novels don't account.
Anonymous No.24658302 >>24660281
>>24658289 (OP)
Proof it makes normies uncomfortable?
Anonymous No.24658305 >>24658311
>>24658289 (OP)
>pick the most normie, mainstream titles of their genres
>LITERALLY the poster child of it's genre
>Why does this series make normies so uncomfortable?

Are all threads started by bots here or something?
Anonymous No.24658311 >>24658333
>>24658305
The vast majority of normies don't look much deeper into Dune other than the surface level shit like resource wars, Spice (oil) and desert rebels.
Anonymous No.24658333 >>24658339 >>24658484
>>24658311
My good man, there's a major blockbuster trilogy adapted after these books. There's nothing not normie about Dune, and nothing in it to make normies uncomfortable.

You might as well say ASOIAF makes normies uncomfortable.
Anonymous No.24658337
it's normie's post star wars fatigue slop
Anonymous No.24658339
>>24658333
Anonymous No.24658346
>>24658289 (OP)
as far as i’m aware it doesn’t.
Anonymous No.24658484
>>24658333
I read the books before the films came out and let me just say that I understand gatekeeping now
Anonymous No.24658496
>>24658289 (OP)
christians perhaps, redditors love it
Anonymous No.24658541 >>24658558
It's just edgy Foundation. It's a cool concept, but I enjoy the recent film adaptations more than the read, which is a very rare phenomenon. It's more like "little normie's first foray into abstract thought" than it is something profound or upsetting.
Anonymous No.24658556 >>24658667
>>24658289 (OP)
>Why does this series make normies so uncomfortable?
It doesn't make normies uncomfortable so much as it leaves the average prole scratching their heads because they don't understand the concept of courtier life or dynasties, things like that or the theory of mind for societies that aren't their own. I overheard someone say verbatim "I don't get it why is there an emperor and no democracy if it's the future?"

Dune is a great litmus test for people who are philosophical zombies or low IQ dullards.
Anonymous No.24658558 >>24658563 >>24658566
>>24658541
>declares himself a retard in multiple different ways
Your first sentence was sufficient.
Anonymous No.24658563
>>24658558
Probably the same guy that, in another thread, was surprised Greek mythology had dragons. Man, I'm outta here. This place is chock-full of sub 80 IQ retards and indians.
Anonymous No.24658566 >>24658580
>>24658558
You're addicted to antagonizing people for attention.
Anonymous No.24658580 >>24658581
>>24658566
Well, it certainly worked in your case.
Anonymous No.24658581
>>24658580
We're all in need of a little socialization after a work day.
Anonymous No.24658667
>>24658556
Don't forget the mysticism, which is completely incomprehensible to normalfags. There's a reason the movies made it seem like magic, because there was no way Villeneuve could explain it to the general public.
Anonymous No.24660156
I guess it would be pretty hard to get into the more trippy stuff about consciousness and presience without having had a heroic LSD-trip yourself
Anonymous No.24660235
>>24658289 (OP)
To understand the normie, you have to think like one. Imagine that up until now your only exposure to sci-fi was Star Wars, where everything is black and white and spelled out in a way even children can understand. Now imagine you read Dune. The parallels to Lawrence of Arabia and Islamic history fly over your head because the only thing you read is Sandersonslop. The struggle between master morality and slave morality flies over your head because you've never read Nietzsche, and to you morality only makes sense in black and white. The mysticism flies over your head because the only thing you understand are autistically defined magic "systems." The cerebral aspect of the characters flies over your head because you only like characters that "likeable" and "unproblematic." The central thesis against charismatic leaders flies over your head because you're looking for a Luke Skywalker to cosplay. The worldbuilding escapes you because you have no grasp on even the basics of Middle Eastern history. Now, this would all be fine and good if all these layers were just secondary to some sort of plot, but the issue is that they're not. They are more important than the plot, and for you as a normie plotfag this is the final straw. This is why you prefer the movies to the books, as they completely strip away all the ideas that you don't understand and leave the hollow core of just the plot. I fucking hate Villeneuve so much, the most autistic director alive picked to adapt a novel of deep nuance was bound to end in failure. As shitty as Lynch's Dune was, it kept some element of the complexity of the novels, and ofc normies hate it for doing that.
Anonymous No.24660279
>>24658289 (OP)
>baby's first sci fi series
>makes normies uncomfortable
Anonymous No.24660281
>>24658302
My gf loved the latest movies but dropped the book after a few chapers
Anonymous No.24660397 >>24660689 >>24660714
>>24658289 (OP)
I finished God Emperor yesterday and didn't really like any of the books. Am I just retarded?
>None of the characters in any of the books are interesting, they may as well just be cardboard cutouts
>Paul never really does anything bad in the chapters told from his point of view. All of the horrible shit happens off-screen
>The writing style itself has some of the shittiest prose out there. Ctrl+f "presently" will give you a hundred results per book
>Everything related to Alia
>Everything related to Jessica
>Everything related to the weird amounts of horniness in book 4
>Every book introduces a new location that is extremely important to the lore and the universe but it was never mentioned in previous entries
Genuine question, am I stupid and the books' 2deep4u themes are flying over my head? Nothing in them really seemed all that deep or philosophical, MAYBE Leto's fate of becoming the god emperor and trying to guide humanity towards the golden path but that's it
Anonymous No.24660689 >>24660794
>>24660397
You need to read Heretics and Chapterhouse in order to "get" the series.
The thing you "get" is that Frank Herbert was an insane edgelord coomer. That's it. But it won't sink in fully until you read those too.
Anonymous No.24660714
>>24660397
>Every book introduces a new location that is extremely important to the lore and the universe but it was never mentioned in previous entries
I think this is supposed to be a call back to the Tarzan books where this would happen all the time. Especially the lost fremen tribe in Children of Dune
Anonymous No.24660794 >>24660806
>>24660689
I was going to read those but apparently chapterhouse ends in a cliffhanger
Anonymous No.24660806
>>24660794
It doesn't