Thread 24661697

Gonna post this here and dip since I don't come here anymore. But something that will help you a lot with understanding Nietzsche is that when he talks about morality, you have to keep in mind that talk of morality pre-1950 or so was 100x more common. These days morality is mostly used as a cudgel against people you hate, but until recently it was conceived of as an ideal you had to actually meet in your daily life, and most public discourse would center around it. So if you want a better idea of what Nietzsche was trying to convey, then instead of morality, imagine his rants as directed towards those who join political parties and march for Palestine and so on. We struggle to understand Nietzsche exactly in proportion to the degree we move away from his times. Likewise, if you're still living under the shadow of politics or any other massive modern zeitgeist, you haven't actually absorbed his message.

i feel like the #1 sentence long summary of nietzsche just is
morality exists only in service to aesthetics

>>24661697 (OP)
>before we apostatized

>>24661697 (OP)
God is the ultimate source of all morality, as He represents the absolute standard of good and the foundation of ethical principles, The bible is the Absolute laws of morals, and the book of ethics

>>24661739
thanks chatgpt jeet

>>24661739
the ultimate and transcendental god really pulled up to moses and went
MORALITY RULE #1!!!!
DONT BOIL A GOAT IN ITS MOTHERS MILK!!!

>>24661697 (OP)
>you haven't actually absorbed his message.
I'll take what I think is useful and leave the rest, thanks.

>>24661697 (OP)
Not just for Palestine, he opposed any nass movements and any partisan politics, including Fascism. A friend of his called him “radical aristocratic” and he liked it saying it’s a fitting description.

I kind of agree with this, but I think in everything a sort of balance should be achieved between opposing victimising forces so that their ramifications in the world will resound less and less.

I would say Nietzsche would have supported the two state solution if he was alive because this solution would have put a stop on the constant victimhood ramblings.

>>24662567
That kind of makes Nietzsche sound fucking useless.

>>24662568
Depends on what you mean by “useful”. If you want to be a part of a mass movement and see the world being transformed into whichever shape your movement wants by voting and by marching, yes it is useless.

But if you’re one of the select few who are focused on themselves and use the masses in their own advantage to become leaders then he is useful.

Nietzche is very cynical. He admires leaders who fool the masses and steer them towards his own goals and despises the same people at the same time.

He sees the masses as cattle, nothing more.

>>24661697 (OP)
>We struggle to understand Nietzsche exactly in proportion to the degree we move away from his times
Totally false. His thought is timeless or rather 'Untimely' as he self-styled it.

>>24662568
To a degree, if philosophy is not useless then it's actually just ideology.