Thread 24665958

>>24665979
Why is half the textbook dedicated to this nonsense? Marxism isn't even culturally relevant anymore.

Been like this since the 80s, newfag

>>24665992
You need to be punched in the throat.

>>24665958 (OP)
Looks like it is a criticism and theory text for those who are not studying criticism and theory, like an English lit major who just needs the broad over view. 100 level class and hardly representative of anything but 100 level classes.
>>24665990
Because the humanities don't pretend the past ceased to exist once they discover they are wrong. Much of theory and criticism is history.

>>24665990
I'm not giving credit to the school for this but I can think of some good reasons.

It's the study of a manifesto. Dissecting and application of the manifesto can teach how idea's can and often do have an impact on the world.

If they taught Marxism the same as, say, Mein Kampf, There would be a lot of psuedo nazi's running around thinking they know everything.

Somehow teaching Marxist theory while taking on a bunch of debt is the perfect amount of hypocritical burden.

un programme gênant

>>24665997
>Because the humanities don't pretend the past ceased to exist once they discover they are wrong. Much of theory and criticism is history.
I've never seen a textbook dedicate an entire chapter to flat-earth theory or spontaneous generation.

>>24666041
Right, that is my point.

>>24665958 (OP)
you don't have to agree with any of it
it's just what the world went through in the 20th century.

>>24666041
Notice how each of those sections has a chapter titled "Methodology," that is the methodology of literary criticism which developed within the Marxist philosophy. It is not teaching Marxism, it is teaching Marxist criticism and probably only cover the small portion of Marxist criticism which survived past Marxism and had an influence on things to come, hence it only being 16 pages long.

What ever this book is, it is written for people like you, those who have no idea what criticism and theory are.

Bad thread. You are raging at a list. No man should be so shaken by an index.

>>24666081
>That is the methodology of literary criticism which developed within the philosophy the section deals with.
I just can't edit on a screen.
>>24666084
No man should confuse a table of contents for an index.

>>24666085
Rather a pervert than a pedant, brother.

>which developed within the Marxist philosophy
You can't seriously be giving Marx all the credit for method.
Brainwashing is real.

>>24666088
I wasn't being pedantic, you missed the point.
>>24666089
I didn't give Marx any credit. Do you think Marxist philosophy is just Marx? Just reading that table of contents should clue you in on it being more than Marx.

>>24666092
> literary criticism which developed within the Marxist philosophy.
yes you did.
Pointing out disciples is shadow boxing.

>>24666097
I didn't point out disciples, I pointed out your ignorance.

>>24666103
straight to ad hominim, hmmm?
Well, that was easy.

>>24666111
It is generally the appropriate course of action when someone ignores what was said and the context of the discussion, and goes for the cheap gotcha.

>>24666117
Z:BEHOLD! Prot-Jesus!
Your political and mystic savoir!
Now, you must listen to his cultist disciples and credit all work to "the collective"

No! I will not explain WHY.
You're merely ignorant. Too ignorant for enlightenment. The enlightenment of the Proto-Jesus! Marx!

>>24665958 (OP)
>Queer Theory: Gay and Lesbian Criticism
I hate this shit so much as a faggot. Have you ever read "queer theory"? It's the most braindead sterile shit in the world. Gays should just start being fascists again

>>24666124
I never said or even implied Marxism is correct, only acknowledged that it exists and has historical relevance to literary criticism and theory. You just crammed adhom, strawman, and goalpost moving all into one post, you don't seem to be on particularly stable ground. Care to address what was said instead of playing games?

>>24666137
I'd prefer if English lit studies weren't pretending to be either philosophers or etymologists.
You argue like a boring weasel, circa boomer Facebook hugboxer.

Grim. So Grim. I cannot imagine a worst fate than being born anglo.

Now look at the dossier of Lengua y Literatura Hispánica. Pvre cvltvre.

>>24666147
continued

>>24666143
OP pic is not English lit studies, it is a theory and criticism text and such a text is a one semester class at the start of a English lit degree to provide a broad overview of the theory and criticism which English literature can not be removed from. Seethe if you want but this sort of theory and criticism is what separates Western lit from the rest of the world and is not new, it goes back to the Greeks, hence the meme.

>>24666155
> English literature can not be removed from [feminism, marxism multiracialism, gay and lesbian theory]

Grim

Reject.

>>24665958 (OP)
Where can I take a university program that's not pozzed bros?

>>24666195
Outside the anglosphere.

>>24666178
What is grim is reducing it to those few things, as you are and closing your eyes to everything you don't like. You are the inverse of the stemfag who says science is right because they are less wrong than they were; you say that you are right because you were less wrong than are.

>>24666195
The best way to avoid it is to opt for classics/med/renaissance study, with a hard limit on 1700/1800 and complete the gap with private work and selected electives.

>>24666203
>you are right because you were less wrong than are
kek.

>>24666203
>You are the inverse of the stemfag who says science is right because they are less wrong than they were; you say that you are right because you were less wrong than are

>>24666225
What are you doing on a literature board? He is saying (You) react by swinging to the fences under the assumption that the opposite extreme is correct. He called you a stemfag and a plotfag.

There is 1 retard in this whole thread and everyone is laughing at them.

>>24666235
>opposite extreme is correct.
Opposite extreme is wrong. lol. Tried to edit before the captcha expired.

>>24666236
>1
>them

>>24666240
Second post out of two rendered unreadable by sloppy formatting. Maybe you should stop defending slop on the collegiate level and brush up your primary school English.

>>24665958 (OP)
>How to use art as an excuse to talk about politics
Why?

>uneducated people seething about theory
It’s a tale as old as time. I might ask mum if we can have a modern art thread too

Fraudulent, decadent, self-indulgent culture eating itself alive to the point of implosion. Unquestionably Haram. Meaningless cannibalism of the past in order to secure a paycheck from a university.

If you get the feeling of a faded greatness and exhaustingly endless deconstruction, you are absolutely right. That greatness came from those faithful in God, a faded Light, and it is Islam that has the power to steer the West back to God.

It is God, the Light, Al Noor, that has driven humanity to build its greatest works for culture. Stray from the Light and the spark is gone, only a rotted corpse to endlessly poke and prod to compensate for a lack of that inner spark of faith inside the intellectual. For a lack of ability to bring forth something entirely new.

>>24665958 (OP)
ecocriticism is peak thoughbeit

>>24665958 (OP)
cripes what a load of shit

>>24665958 (OP)
>english "literature"
>the curriculum is >50% bad readings of derivatives of moralfags so moralfaggy they can't be considered philosophers

>>24666496
>educated people devouring obvious propaganda
A tale as old as time

>>24665996
It's true though and this book seems to be from the nineties.
Notice how for feminism it says 60s, 70s, 80s and then present-day. And queer theory would *not* be called "gay and lesbian criticism" today.
The classic Franco-Frankfurtian stuff (Structure, Sign & Play *the* classic Anglo-Derrida text) is frankly very retro. Instead there would be a looot more race and trans stuff now.

>>24666400
Because a great many people can't see past their politics and filter everything they read through their politics (see /lit/). It mostly is a way to force those sorts to be productive in class discussion and keep them from seething about their politics; if you must reduce it to politics then this is how you go about it if you do not want to fail this required entry level class.

>>24665990
A large, popularly embedded, Marxist group in alliance with several nationalist Islamist groupings, some of whom which are influenced by Maoism, launched an assault on the West on Oct 7 two years ago that has thrown the world into chaos.