Thread 24669300

What is this piece of crap? what kind of propaganda 1000 pages leaflet is this? it's not even interesting in the slightest.

I was honestly intrigued by a woman being such a fundamentalist but not eve this bitch has manage to interest me in the slightest.

I get all the objectivism she is trying to flight but the story? bland and inconsistent as fuck

>>24669300 (OP)
I read this when I was 11 and now my life is completely fucked. I work for some koch propaganda network in DC and can't stop drinking

>>24669300 (OP)
I read it at 20 and thought it was pretty good. That being saidI live in post soviet union country so hate against socialism hits different here.

>>24669300 (OP)
you guys read? Just watch the Mike Wallace Interview

I don't say this often but, filtered.

>>24669300 (OP)
You want The Fountainhead.

Ayn Rand cuts herself.

>>24669300 (OP)
This book was great until part 3, then it became a sci-fi b-list flick with a 90 page monologue in case you were speedreading the first 1000 pages.

>>24670559
There's a lot more in those pages than just story.

Did they ever make this into a movie and is it any good?

>>24670950
yes and no

>>24670559
The monologue is the highlight of the book. But the part when they team up to free Galt is taken straight from a low budget action movie

reread it again and think of it as ayn rand's fap material.
now you'll get it.

>>24669300 (OP)
>lolbert book was bad
and what, grass is green?

>>24670950
They had to make it into two movies because the monologue at the end is so long. |_○_| it's not.

>>24671209
>The monologue is the highlight of the book
The monologue is the book shoving its message down your throat in case you somehow managed to skip the first 26 chapters. Completely unnecessary. I read the first 20 pages then skipped the rest of the garbage.

>>24669300 (OP)
Those Canadian faggots Rush wrote a song about Ayn Scam so she must have done something right.

>>24669300 (OP)
Rand's ideology is 100% pussy driven.

>>24671568
rush name checked a lot of shit out of context like it matters that annoys me honestly

>>24670345
You actually want We the Living.

>>24671579
Explains /lit/'s dislike.

>>24671579
She sure does work out a lot of kinks in this.

>>24669300 (OP)
>propaganda 1000 pages
yes

there is some minimal plot but mostly it is characters speechifying with paragraphs of boiler plate political stuff

good political stuff but the delivery by yahoos in a too long story is kind of off putting

but if AR had written bland political essays then nobody would have read them

>>24672431
everyone was writing issue novels that was just the way media was not harry potter

>>24672878
I honestly think writers got away with this because there was less to do back then so reading was it.

Secularist ideologies are a series of hastily constructed ramshackle huts full of structural issues and leaky roof holes for the arrogant to shelter themselves in a stubborn refusal to climb the mountain of faith and enter into the majestic castle of holy Scripture at its summit.

>>24673053
So, go hiking.

>>24671424
seems like an epic someone will remake it again they can't help themselves. it can't be worse than megalopolis.

>>24669300 (OP)
Rand certainly couched all her fiction with characters exhibiting a strange formalism, even more than was customary at the time. I imagine everyone is don and betty draper.

>>24669696
People think the book is a cartoonish example of such a regime until they've lived in one.

>>24669300 (OP)
>but not eve this bitch has manage

>>24673905
yep

>>24669300 (OP)
I pretended I read it for a scholarship from the Rand Foundation or whatever. I got a cool $500 back in 2001 by writing an essay in which I justified being a self-righteous, self-absorbed prick.

>>24673501
I was wrong in the interim they've since made a sequel to that one so there's three now.
It had a budget of $5 million and made $800,000 at box office and got an incredible 0% on rotten tomatoes.

https://youtu.be/KaBDHMQEbKM?si=u3RMkMrYBVGhZNcN

It's free on youtube we can finally figure out who john Galt is. I'm betting he's played by DJ Qualls.

>>24672878
KEK

>>24674312
Things that never happened for $500

>>24669300 (OP)
I like her prose style. It's weird and stilted and every line is laden with import crushing the characters lol.

>>24669300 (OP)
She's a very interesting author. Having read all her novels, I'll say the quality of her writing is inversely proportional to the amount of fame she had when she was writing it. We the Living is IMO her best work, but barely gets mentioned, while Atlas Shrugged, a 1200 page book about trains where the male lead in the story changes 3 times based on who Rand's self insert finds attractive, is considered her magnum opus.
>>24670016
I watched bits of it in an Adam Curtis documentary and it soured my perception of her. She sounded deranged.

>>24674842
>1200 page book about trains

Ok I'll read it.

>>24674842
We the living is a precis to her later more fully realized work exploring many of the same ideas put forth earlier but certainly as her ideology gained more adherents rand suffered from grandiosity which is fitting.

>>24673053
"Philosophies" based on the primacy of consciousness is pseud shit for gay nerds.

>>24675311
You would know.

I don't get how Rand had bestsellers and seemed to have the ear of financial and industry people but died poor.

>>24669300 (OP)
She wasted all her money and would have died penniless on the street if not for government welfare. The supreme irony that refutes her entire life's work. kek.

>>24673053
>He doesn't understand that the "holy scripture" he chooses and interprets is worse than the secular formation since it is also subjective and arbitrary but with the lie of being "objective"
NGMI

>>24675667
I honestly thought objectivism was about being actually objective. Imagine my surprise. I still like the idea of objective view as a discipline. Probably already a whole philosophy about that of which I remain ignorant. Rand isn't that.

>>24669300 (OP)
Judaism

>>24675664
I heard that that is not the case, but that she 'had' to draw Social Security because she was past the age and required to or something, the idea that she died penniless is not true.

I used to slam out 1000 page books like this no problem. I'm washed up.

>>24670016
>Ayn Rand interview
This interview is wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHl2PqwRcY0

I loved it as an edgy 14 year old but even then I still skipped the final monologue.

>>24675955
a classic

>>24669300 (OP)
Hello, Immanuel Kant.

Is it yet another red scare book?i found out that she is ex Soviet. Every russian or chinese immigrant end up writing an anti state agenda book when they come to america,why is that?

>>24676300
The ones that ran would have been shot for having money and land if they stayed.

>>24676300
Basically. It advocates hyper individualistic capitalism. No such thing as a community, family unit, etc. Only the individual acting for personal interests (and that this way of acting and thinking will actually help everyone else). It champions the best, most capable person for the job should do the job and anything other than that is societal collapse. It's pretty fucking naive. The fact that it is written by a jew makes it even more rich since they show the incredible power of collective action and ingroup preference.

I don't need to fill my head with some rich dykes fantasies of starving poor people, that of which she would've been one if only she had not been born into a life of privilege (actual privilege). If this cunt was alive today she would be the type to say white working class men are privileged and need to be robbed of their patriarchal power. Fuck her.

>>24676300
It's the new religious converts that are the most zealous and preachiest

>>24676109
Why do i get Gislaine Maxwell vibes from her portrait?

>>24676109
...that isn't real, is it?

>>24669300 (OP)
Only entitled westerners who have never experienced the depravity of true socialist governments hate this book.

>>24676300
>red scare
>scare
>implying that there wasn't anything to be genuinely terrified about of socialism/communism

>>24677245
If you think it's absurd, just read up on the cultural revolution. Or the Trump administration.

>>24677259
>implying the red scare was about communism/socialism

>>24677216
Not real