Thread 24673571

/lit/ has convinced me that Biblical literalism is the ultimate midwit filter. Anything else is either gay, occult LARPing, or midwit fedora posturing. Thank you for saving my soul with your negative examples.

Oh yeah you have to take the Bible completely true in at least a certain respect.

You can basically fudge the Creation Story with the info we get in 2 Peter that "a thousand years are like a day" to the Lord, and say that the six days of creation don't need to be actual 24 hour periods, but rather could be millions or even billions of years.

But obviously there literally was an Adam and an Eve, and there was a literal Fall. The Nephilim were real, too, and the Giants, and the Flood. The Flood especially since Jesus Himself talks about "as it was in the days of Noah," and He doesn't seem to be speaking metaphorically.

>>24673571 (OP)
What's your stance on the Apocrypha?

>>24673586
I accept it as canonical.

Agreed
Satan is the god of the world so why are people obsessed with what is found in the world rather than what is found in God's holy book?

Atheists are a very arrogant people. Anyone who reads literature knows there are themes and deeper meanings, but many fail to see that the Scripture is full of mystical meaning.

Atheists lack the spiritual maturity to read the Scripture, they can't perceive the depth and only interpret it as a child would. The truth is that you simply can't understand Scripture without faith in God.

More than this, Scripture is the basis of the greatest works of literature.

>>24673623

It is worse when you realize that the promotion of atheism online is a propaganda campaign with strategic military goals.

Lead people away from God and they care less about imperialist war crimes in the Holy Land, including bombing churches full of Christian children in Gaza.

>>24673628

Looking at the history of anti-Christian propaganda, there is a precedent in the USSR. Bolshevism was formed and led by atheist "Jews" who enslaved and genocided Christians and Muslims on a massive scale, like in the modern CCP.

Did these people just disappear? These anti-Christs? Of course not. Go on /pol/ and you will see this recycled propaganda from the Soviet playbook.

For example, appeal to paganism. Appeal to racism. Painting Christianity as a means of political and economic subjugation. On and on. Nothing new here.

>>24673636

I write this as a Muslim. These anti-Christs attack Muslims as well. Muslims believe in God and believe in Jesus Christ and the Gospel.

Attacking Christ and the Gospel means attacking the beliefs of Muslims. The Soviet crimes against Muslims are also rarely discussed.

Really, the genocide and persecution of Christians in Russia is one of the most downplayed stories in history and this obscurity is evidence that its perpetrators are still in power.

The satanic influence in the highest halls of power is something very clear and evident to Muslims, and I ask my Christian brothers to reflect on this as a plain and evident reality and not a vague suspicion of something sinister.

>>24673643

We are in a spiritual war for the souls of humanity. It is this spiritual war that determines all wars, as it is our souls and not our weapons that drives someone to consent to a war or participate in it.

As for me, my enemy is Satan as the Koran teaches. Any Muslim, Christian, Jew that opposes Satan is my ally in this war. Glory to God in the highest.

Literalism is a form of atheism, reducing the complexities of what's beyond the physical to meaningless materialism. Anything beyond the physical or beyond daily human conditioning can't be communicated without metaphors.
I'm looking at the greatest example of art pointing at something higher and you're telling me it's just a block of marble.

>>24673636
based and red pilled

>>24673672
Reducing explaining away what are presented as historical events as mystic metaphors to flatter your esoteric philosophy is just masturbation.

>>24673672
You can’t expect protties to understand

>>24673672
Pretty sure we can use written words to say if there was a global floor, or not

>>24673672
>The way every Christian read the Bible up to around 1870 or so is a form of atheism
>>24673681
I'm Catholic. Check out the Kolbe Center.

>>24673636
>like in the modern CCP
Reminder that basically no Muslim nation, not even the extremists like Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, have had an issue with China over this. All three nations I listed in fact seek greater ties with China. Obviously the CCP is not treating Muslims all that bad.

>>24673571 (OP)
You aren't supposed to read the bible. The obsession with reading the book is entirely the product of technology making mass print practical, which it was not for the first 1200 years of Christianity. When Christ walked the Earth owning a book was like owning a car or a speedboat, they did not become practical and easily acquirable until a millennium later.

How anyone can obsess over the scripture when they know for certain that NONE of the early Christians did? If you were to go back in time to the time of the Apostes and explain to them that you've assembled this vast tractate of meticulously curated text, they would be confused as to why, did the Romans make you do it for some sort of census? Did some Emperor demand a summary of the religion to make sure it wasn't secretly a rebellion?

>>24674202
Then why was the Bible written?

>>24674210
The Catholic Church decided to produce a canon for internal reference in 393 at the Council of Hippo. It had nothing to do with the laity at all.

I suggest R. C. Sproul's Knowing Scripture to anyone interested in studying the Bible. It's a short read, but covers a lot. Types of translation approaches, the various formats found in the Bible (poetry, wisdom literature, letters, etc.), differentiation of the literal and allegory, study tools like concordances and biblical dictionaries. Good stuff. Sproul was a rare bird. I miss him.