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Anonymous No.24676103 >>24676142 >>24676481 >>24676677 >>24676794 >>24677092 >>24677896
>The left has lost the ability to discuss, and to deliberate, and to debate. What wokeness basically does is it designates certain things as so sacred, certain identities as so sacred, that any dissent from them is considered to be heresy. And what do you do with heretics? You excommunicate them, right? And what's the ultimate form of excommunication? You burn them.
Anonymous No.24676142 >>24676206 >>24676278 >>24676785
>>24676103 (OP)
And yet this drug addled fraud will cry like a whiny little bitch if you so much as criticize Israel for killing countless children. The hypocrisy is palpable.
Anonymous No.24676146 >>24676184
juden peterstein
Anonymous No.24676184
>>24676146
find another site to sully, you evil coward
Anonymous No.24676206 >>24676455 >>24676795
>>24676142
https://youtu.be/C_32icvWpIg
Jordan Peterson took a doctor prescribed medication. There is no evidence he was abusing it or taking it in a higher dosage than directed by his physician. He experienced a severe side effect from said medication culminating in his seeking treatment in 2018. This side effect and symptoms related to it were not listed on the medication until 2019--after Peterson had gone public about his symptoms.

In a nutshell, Jordan Peterson sustained a neurological injury from his medication. This affected his immune system and his body began reacting to random foods he normally had no problem consuming. For example, people who experience the same side effect will have histamine responses to food and drink they were not allergic to in the past. Basically, their body has seemingly random immunological responses that vary in severity and degree. On top of this there are also adverse effects on the regulation of the parasympathetic nervous system. As far as the later is concerned psychological symptoms arise (e.g. a sense of dread/terror, lack of impulse control, sleep regulation, appetite regulation, etc).

When Peterson stopped taking his medication due to the above he experienced severe withdrawal symptoms. This is not due to an "addiction" but rather a physical dependency that commonly arises from wide range of medications. Akathisia is one of the worst of such symptoms as it creates an insatiable sense of restlessness. This is not simple anxiety although anxiety may arise due to akathisia which is itself a motor disorder. The reason this symptom is labelled "subjective" is because it is qualitative and patient reported. The pain one has during a migraine or a cluster headache is also "subjective"--this doesn't mean the pain doesn't exist.

Peterson sought treatment in Canada but was given a poor diagnosis and thereby sought treatment at a specialized facility that developed an experimental treatment regimen specific to the symptoms he was experiencing. He was put into a comatose state so as to negate extreme withdrawal symptoms and to avoid further neurological damage. The treatment was a success and in the years since he has continued with him life and found success in multiple endeavors.

People who want to attack Peterson try to label him as a drug addict. In so doing, they wish to bring in the connotations associated with addiction as a way to defame him. In realty, Peterson had a physical dependency on medication, as many people do, AND had a server side effect, unknown at the time, that compounded the dangers of simply tapering off the drug. No loaded language is needed to describe what actually happened; an appeal to the facts at hand alongside information relating to such experiences themselves suffice.

Here's a medical doctor who specializes in the treatment of medication withdrawal explaining exactly what Peterson went through:

https://youtu.be/C_32icvWpIg
Anonymous No.24676278 >>24676295 >>24676496 >>24676555 >>24676776 >>24676782 >>24677063
>>24676142
>>cry like a whiny little bitch if you so much as criticize Israel for killing countless children

why do you "care" about Israel? If Hamas numbers are correct, that's still small beans compared to Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, Sudan, etc. Like why pick one cause over the others? Unless you are "fighting imperial whiteness" or muslim who gives a shit?
Anonymous No.24676295 >>24676299 >>24676449
>>24676278
They don't actually care about Palestinians and just hate Jews. The thing is they don't realize whatever cause they attach themselves to is the weaker for it and they give Israel cover, lol.
Anonymous No.24676299 >>24676313 >>24676330 >>24676449
>>24676295

I come to this board to discuss /Lit and rhetoric and everything is constantly getting derailed by seethers inserting Jews everywhere. Unless you live in the levant you are seriously unaffected.
Anonymous No.24676310
And he gave in to the mob and gave up. A relic of 2016. Nobody cares anymore.
Anonymous No.24676313 >>24676330
>>24676299
>I come to this board to discuss /Lit and rhetoric and everything is constantly getting derailed by seethers inserting Jews everywhere
It has been like this for years.
Anonymous No.24676330 >>24676435
>>24676313
>>24676299
What are your thoughts on America joining ww2 to stop Hitler? It didn’t affect us.
Anonymous No.24676435 >>24677384
>>24676330
Think you need to read some history, Japan directly bombed Hawaii and then Germany declared war on America first.
Anonymous No.24676449 >>24676555 >>24677090
>>24676295
>>24676299
Nobody cares you seething kikes.
Anonymous No.24676455 >>24676471 >>24676484
>>24676206
And now he’s self diagnosed himself with a made up condition that doesn’t exist because he’s “allergic” to mold. But the fact that you wrote all that out was truly the most pathetic part.
Anonymous No.24676471
>>24676455
there's a rabid peterson concubine crawling around the board who has at least three of these copypastas at his convenience.

there is a dysgenic pattern of thinking inherent to ideologues where they believe walls of text are convincing. so they shit up the board with the same garbage, and the sad part is they aren't even getting paid
Anonymous No.24676473
nuke israel
Anonymous No.24676481 >>24677556
>>24676103 (OP)
I think there's plenty of discussion on the left if you include books and other published works. Live debates are entertaining but they don't really allow for the same level of depth.
Anonymous No.24676484 >>24677252
>>24676455
The neurological injury he sustained causes random immunological responses. When he went public it was an unknown side effect but within a year it was added to the warning label.
Anonymous No.24676496 >>24676555 >>24677090
>>24676278
>don't care about israel
>care about other countries that are apparently unaffected by israel like Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, Sudan
I can't tell if you're doing a bit or if you're retarded
Anonymous No.24676555 >>24676566 >>24676792 >>24677267 >>24677954
>>24676278
>>24676449
>>24676496
>Delusional rationalization/disorganized thinking:
There are facts about the world. For example, that media manipulates people, Jews work in media, and psychologists study the mind. However, what a delusional person does is take such facts and use them to confirm a specific narrative (this is known as being selectively coherent). The elements of the narrative aren't actually proven by the facts but the delusional person (or ideologue) confuses their truth with the truth of their narrative. For example: Peterson is a psychologist (fact), associates with Jews (fact), and works in media (fact); therefore he is a skilled manipulator and part of a conspiracy headed by Jews. (This is the delusional rationalization part). The facts don't prove the narrative yet if you look you'll notice they are what is carrying the weight of the argument being made by people who mentally adhere to the narrative--if you deny the narrative these ideologues will confuse this with denying the facts. (That's the disordered thinking part).

Basically, the dangerous thing about paranoid narratives is that they have the appearance of being logically consistent within themselves and noticing the sleight of hand that takes place between the facts and the narrative isn't always easy to do. However, it's quite easy to see why certain narratives are simply absurd (e.g. looking at the advanced teachings of a cult versus those they use to hook people in).

Peterson isn't the crescendo of a multi-millenia conspiracy headed by a cabal of Jews who want you to not have sex. You haven't figured it all out and you aren't interpreting 5D chess. What you are doing is building a selectively coherent narrative based on truisms and confusing that they necessarily connect to your version of reality. If you find yourselves doing this seek professional help.
Anonymous No.24676566 >>24676650
>>24676555
>sending billions of dollars worth of intelligence, training, and military equipment to destabilize foreign countries is just an antisemitic conspiracy theory
You know that when you try to pull shit like that it genuinely makes people more antisemitic over time, right? Actually I guess you already knew that, that's why you're posting this
Anonymous No.24676650
>>24676566
>random nobody on the internet sperging about Jews thinks he's on to a multi-millenia international conspiracy
Lol
Anonymous No.24676677
>>24676103 (OP)
Yawn.
Anonymous No.24676776 >>24677448
>>24676278
>why do you care about israel
Anonymous No.24676782
>>24676278
Because Israel bribes and blackmails my country's politicians and they're using their influence to whitewash a genocide
Anonymous No.24676785
>>24676142
fpbp
Anonymous No.24676792
>>24676555
You're making a paranoid narrative about people making connections between different facts.

It's the confused Peterson follower in a nutshell. Yes, we can look at all these facts. No, we must keep them seperate, we must also stat seperate from each other. No organization between people, remain an individual. Clean your room.

It's like you want the facts to remain atomized, and the people to remain atomized. It's a way to ensure control and keep the readers and followers out of control themselves.
Anonymous No.24676794
>>24676103 (OP)
And then the screaming retard broke down crying about 4chan enabling hate towards the righteous Israelites who can do no wrong because they’re God’s chosen people which he believes completely unlike the part about Jesus’ resurrection which is just symbolic imagery.
Anonymous No.24676795
>>24676206
>tldr, I really wanna suck Sir Peterson's darkness cock, pwetty pwese dont cwitise him, hwes such a gwood boy
Anonymous No.24676800 >>24676865 >>24677023
He's right, but doesn't realise that he is spiritually ill to the point that he cannot have even a basic conversation about Christianity without being infinitely recursive. In his illness, he has no cognitive capacity to debate any sensible criticism of Christianity. Much like the pretend-Christians on this board.
Anonymous No.24676840
Jordan Memesterson has finally managed to sneak his Freemasonry into the public and dreams about being as quirky and relevant as Zizek.
Anonymous No.24676854 >>24676863
He talks about leftist woke moralists a lot, but I don't think what he's saying is quite true. In fact, I think the developments we are seeing in the "left" these past 10 or so years are the effects of capital appropriating leftist class struggle and redirecting it into racial and other hundreds of identities type struggle to act as an pressure relief valve to growing social unrest.
It is truly fascinating how capitalism manages to appropriate even its own opponents and critiques, and use it to build markets to further exploit and advance itself
Anonymous No.24676863
>>24676854
>the effects of capital appropriating leftist class struggle
That's what you call squaring the circle of an unfalsifiable hypothesis.
Anonymous No.24676865 >>24676898
>>24676800
>do you believe in the Bible?
>the Bible is a hyperlinked library of wisdom across centuries. It’s not a book you simply “believe in.”
>so you don't take it literally?
>literalism is a modern distortion. Stories operate on multiple planes of reality.
>you're avoiding the question.
>i’m challenging its premises.
>are you saved?
>i think the idea of salvation is psychological, social, and metaphysical.
>so you're not saved?
>i'm working on aligning myself with the Logos.
>is that a yes?
>it's a process, not a status.
>do you believe in Heaven and Hell?
>we live them out psychologically. Every day.
>that’s not what the Bible says.
>well, the Bible isn’t a manual. It’s a narrative architecture of meaning.
>are you afraid of going to Hell?
>i’m more afraid of becoming the kind of person who belongs there.
>do you think atheists can be moral?
>hat depends what you mean by “moral,” and whether they're standing on borrowed ethical capital.
>borrowed from what?
>from Judeo-Christian metaphysics. From millennia of cultural evolution.
>so they’re moral, but for the wrong reasons?
>they’re moral, but they don’t know why.
>so you’re better than them?
>no, but I may be more aware of the foundations.
>so why not just say you're a Christian?
>because I’m not willing to trivialize that claim.
Fedoras mad.
Anonymous No.24676898
>>24676865
some takes are quite Zen, and probably experiantial-spiritual even.
He probably has a great Manager, the dude is nothing but vibes.
Anonymous No.24677023
>>24676800
>cannot have even a basic conversation about Christianity without being infinitely recursive
In many cases, this is a response and strategy in counterpoise to dishonesty, hostility, smuggled premises, ulterior motives, mob mentality, and various other tactics and milieus that render a straightforward though necessarily-incomplete response untenable as a move in the language-games being played
It is however true that he has not always been honest where honesty was warranted, and has himself sometimes resorted to playing games rather than openly accepting fault or error or gaps in his own understanding, and going a step further but at an oblique angle, has sometimes been tricked into accepting fault based on emotional appeal when he should not have
I'm tired of all discourse being some degree of pic related
>Laffemas had promised the minister that he would torment him so effectively that he would extract almost whatever he wished to know, and that with little difficulty he would find the means to put him on trial in the same manner of the cardinal [Richelieu], who, according to what I have heard from his friends, had been accustomed to say that with two lines of a man's handwriting, the most innocent could be put on trial; because one could adjust the matter so well in these affairs, that one could easily find what one wishes to.
—Françoise de Motteville, Memoires, pour servir a l'histoire d'Anne d'Autriche: epouse de Louis XIII., roi de France (1723)
Anonymous No.24677063 >>24677081 >>24677448
>>24676278
Because they’re using our taxpayer money to kill children you spastic. As a thanks, they’re sending the rest of them to our cities.
Anonymous No.24677081 >>24677136
>>24677063
Sandnigger hellspawn doesn't count as children
Anonymous No.24677090 >>24677264 >>24677911
>>24676496
>>care about other countries that are apparently unaffected by israel like Yemen, Syria, Ukraine, Sudan

I don't care about any of them, I'm highlighting if, you care about "humanity" and "civilians" why choose the conflict with the smallest casualties which is clearly just a war, with one side losing badly because they are retarded Jihadists?

Why not care about the foreign conflict with the biggest casualty ratings so you can prevent the most tragedy?

>>24676449
>Nobody cares you seething kikes

>Makes every thread about the jews
oh yeah they are seething not me.
Anonymous No.24677092
>>24676103 (OP)
This entire thread is full of the worst type of person.
Anonymous No.24677136
>>24677081
That’s very antisemitic of you to say.
Anonymous No.24677252
>>24676484
>wahhh I have a made up condition the cdc doesn’t even recognize as being real
You people are adorable
Anonymous No.24677264 >>24677399
>>24677090
Mind telling me what other thread on the first page is about Jews other than the one about a Jewish nepo baby roleplaying as an author? Or is paranoid schizophrenia just your entire personality?
Anonymous No.24677267
>>24676555
>peterson fanart
Whatever mental illness you have is of the same line as the tumblr faggots you try to differentiate yourself from. People get the same vibes from just being around you, and it reeks from every post you send. I don’t want you to take your meds, after all, we wouldn’t want you to suffer a similar fate as your idol.
Anonymous No.24677269
Jebediah Peterberg
Anonymous No.24677384
>>24676435
>Think you need to read some history, Japan directly bombed Hawaii and then Germany declared war on America first.
The US president was angling to get into the fray. The USA was pretending full neutrality, while doing *everything* an enemy would, except for putting boots on the ground. Japan? I have respect for. Little known fact... Japan did Pearl Harbor 100 years to the day, to pay the USA back for *forcibly* opening them up to western trade.
Anonymous No.24677399
>>24677264

Problem is ANY thread will get derailed by philosemites into debates on Jews. They can't help themselves.
Anonymous No.24677448 >>24677478 >>24677490 >>24677605
>>24676776
These "foreign aid" numbers are always fudged and include loans and economic contracts the benefit both sides.
Furthermore, USAID was revealed to be extremely corrupt and that many of the "foreign assistance" going to these countries goes to subversive glowops intended to undermine and destabilize countries.

>>24677063
Iran hated the US before they hated Israel. In fact, Iran began hating Israel because Israel was friendly with the US. They aligned themselves with the Arabs to position themselves against the US. Bad ally as they may be, Israel still an ally while Iran is the enemy. Hamas is a puppet of Iran and Hamas started a war with Israel. Israel has been fighting back.
Their ruthlessness makes you cry, but that's just the way the chips have fallen. There's no way to unwind this, no matter how many tears you spill over the inbred sandniggers dying in Gaza.

Hamas could have yielded years ago. They could have focused on developing a peaceful, functional state with a healthy economy, establishing productive trade relationships with its neighbors to increase the wealth of everyone. Instead they chose to fuck goats and obsess about eradicating Israel. They grew the population of human shields far more quickly than the wealth of the country should have supported. And now they are dying because they started a foolish war they couldn't win.
Anonymous No.24677478
>>24677448
>Iran hated the US before they hated Israel.
Are you replying to the wrong post? That's a non sequitur to what I wrote, please check again.
Anonymous No.24677490
>>24677448
Yeah my friend routinely breaks into my house and steals things while I always save his ass from the neighbours he's pissed off (which makes them hate me) BUT HE SAYS HE'S MY FRIEND OKAY?!
Anonymous No.24677500
WASH
YOUR
PENIS
Anonymous No.24677512
Why are arabs being referred to as sandniggers when jews are just as brown and criminal?
Anonymous No.24677556
>>24676481
>debates are entertaining
Lol. After watching a few you should realize they are gay. It's a cucked art that gives participants way too much pride.
Anonymous No.24677605 >>24677648 >>24678036
>>24677448
>Hamas could have yielded years ago. They could have focused on developing a peaceful, functional state with a healthy economy, establishing productive trade relationships with its neighbors

anti-western queer larpers talk up EVIL America same as worm brained ZOG anons play up jewish savagery to the poor arab children because they hate their enemy so much they don't see palis/third worlders as real people with agency, just cartoons upon which violence is enacted to demonstrate the depravity of their ire.
Anonymous No.24677648 >>24677788 >>24677891 >>24678036
>>24677605
Stop deliberately shooting children through the skull.
Anonymous No.24677788
>>24677648
No rebuttal to this. Jews love to victimize themselves even when they're killing your children (they will say it's your fault, like Golda Meir did).
Anonymous No.24677856
Dudes actually listen to Jordan Peterson and think they're getting some sort of profound wisdom. It's straight up embarrassing.
Anonymous No.24677891 >>24678036
>>24677648
after a long day at the child skull shooting factory I pull night duty defending my work on a Mongolian Basket weaving forum. I had those Goyim right where I wanted but then Kanye released a song about heiling hitler and sucking his cousin's dick and now my boss is pissed because the Goyim are unruly and we won't make quota for the month.
Anonymous No.24677896
>>24676103 (OP)
Oh look another thread by a /pol/tard shoehorning their nonsense into /lit/.
Anonymous No.24677911
>>24677090
>I don't care about any of them
If you weren't a fucking retard you would know that israel is contributing to all of them
>why choose the conflict with the smallest casualties which is clearly just a war
Because it's the simplest and the most obviously genocidal one, even yemen can at least grow some of their own food and sudan gets food aid drops
>you can prevent the most tragedy
Antisemitic. Israel has a right to pursue its own foreign policy interests without interference
Anonymous No.24677954 >>24677994
>>24676555

>Zizek: You designate your "enemy" ... as post-modern neo-marxism, I know what you mean, political correctness and spirit of envy and all that...where did you get this data, I don't know them, give me some names...where are the marxists here?
>Peterson: .
Anonymous No.24677994 >>24678026
>>24677954
So Marx hasn't had immense influence on academia and academia doesn't have any influence on wider society?
Anonymous No.24678026
>>24677994
He has, in the sense that basically all of academia has reacted against him.
Anonymous No.24678036
>>24677891
You missed my point and I think you can do better against >>24677648, which in itself is an argument against the ''man hating israel is for lefties'' >>24677605 suggests, by implying that Israel hate is deserved for its intentional murder of children.