Thread 24676353

Plato used this allegory to suggest that what we perceive through our senses is like shadows on a cave wall. The true, objective reality ("the world of forms") exists outside the cave, and our senses only give us a distorted, indirect view of it.

Kant argued that while objective reality, the "thing-in-itself", exists, we can never have direct access to it. We can only experience the world through the framework of our senses and our minds

Does that mean we are doomed? we will never truly perceive the reality as it is?

>>24676353 (OP)
>Does that mean we are doomed?
No we're fine

>>24676353 (OP)
>The true, objective reality ("the world of forms") exists outside the cave
it doesn't

>>24676367
It does

Plato was wrong

>>24676394
bout what?

>>24676353 (OP)
>We can only experience the world through the framework of our senses and our minds
true
> objective reality, the "thing-in-itself", exists
not true

The only reason we read Plato is to undertsand what later philosophers are referring to, not because his metaphysical speculation has any worth or relevance today.

>>24676353 (OP)
this chart also has 5 things kek

>>24676353 (OP)
According to Indian philosophy we have 6 senses not 5

>>24676353 (OP)
>some dorks sniffed farts centuries ago
>are we le doomded??

We cannot observe true reality with our worldly senses, only with true intelligence.
Do not make the fatal mistake of equating our reasoning facility with this either; they are completely different, with the later being inferior to the former.