Thread 24690496

Someone redpill me on this bitch. Is she just bad, or do her books have any literary merit whatsoever?

>>24690496 (OP)
BWC

>>24690496 (OP)
Are people still not bored of Asian diaspora literature

>>24690496 (OP)
Appreciate the nipples, but doubtful about the writing.

>>24690496 (OP)
smart but not talented. People tend to mistake talent and intellectual, and accidentaly mixed them both to describe someone, and for kuang case they treated her as the current /happening/ in literary world while she's just none other than your average fiction writer

>>24690496 (OP)
>redpill me on this bitch
rumor I saw was that she spent her entire university debate career trying to suck off as many white cocks on the debating team as possible. Every time! Every single time!
>do her books have merit
They have tons of merit if you're 19, have a Tumblr account, and read exclusively YA and Greek mythology until you were 18

>>24690733
Neither smart nor talented. Plus she has a busted up pan face.

Her writing from a technical level is passable but thematically possesses all the subtlety of a brick to the face. Most of how aggro she comes across about how white people bad is probably her trying to make up for the fact she's engaged to a white man.

>>24690550
Apparently it sells well it seems. What do I know though?

>>24690496 (OP)
I saw Gino, who serves me up my kinos at the Kinoplex, reading Babel by R.F Kuang.
Gino is hot btw.

>female writer
>plays the race card
yeah, she's trash.

>>24690946
>Neither smart nor talented.

Goergetown,
Cambridge
Oxford
Yale
Coached debate teams, grew up in Texas and grandparents fought against the chinese communists and is anti-woke.

Let's all put some respect on her name.

>>24690496 (OP)
Do bitches nowadays just not give a fuck about their nipples poking out? I remember even back then sluts would balk at the thought of not wearing a bra and having their nipples show to the world. In ten years women will just be wearing that little skin colored patch they put on their nipples

>>24690496 (OP)
What are women thinking when they show their nips like this? I passed by one on the other day and the moment I noticed her pokies I couldn't stop myself from staring, it was like my eyes were darting away but pulled back again and I think I embarrassed her so much she instinctively raised her hands to her chest. This wouldn't have happened if she'd just worn a bra. For context I live in an Asian country and she was a relatively young caucasian woman, so this was an unusual event for me.

>>24691135
it's a gaudy display of sexuality disguised as naturality regardless it is a provocation against all men daring them to view her as a sex object and placing them in an impossible position — should you leer, you instantly become a great creep, and should you not leer, your sum personality is reduced to "not leering" .. the only possible victory is to take your eyes out with a small knife .. I carry a petite butterfly knife for this express purpose .. yes the womanly wiles truly knows no bounds .. the greeks write about this ..

>>24690496 (OP)
hapa baby factory

>>24691146
after much pondering and walking around in circles I've realised that there is a second option besides taking your eyes out: chopping your manhood off, root and stem! yes, perhaps this is even better, because it deals with the issue at the "root", a compleat disarmament treaty, as it were, placing oneself in a compleatly neutral position (which is the only victory, indeed!) yes so chop the nuts and bolts off, cleanly, with one fell blow, perhaps with a kind of arabic saif, that would be best .. and then enjoy the healing process .. and then, the next time you see a woman with her nipples standing proudly at attention whilst in public, you should whip your pants down, and display your humble stub !! and point at the stub, and say "see, see, see!" while waggling your eyes around quite soberly. this way you shall certainly be no fool.

>>24690496 (OP)
https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/r-f-kuang-and-the-endless-regress

>>24691157
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire

>>24691131
They think it's liberating or something. Really they're degrading themselves for the benefit of men

>>24691157
>>24691146
Yes I did both these things. But it did not work. Women still accused me of leering and becoming excited. They pointed at my own nipples and pointed out how they were very hard and pointy. When I pointed out that her nipples were also hard and pointy, her entire head split open like a flower and a little bead of light flew out. I don't think she was human at all. You must be careful out there anons. We are not alone.

>>24691124
Going to a bunch of faggoty ivy league schools means nothing other than being able to work hard for 4 years. And I say that as a graduate of one of the ones listed. Also you're a reddit spacing faggot and you sound like a fag and you should kill yourself.

>>24691124
Regurgitating the right things to get into ivy leagues doesn't have anything to do with her writing ability.
Her coaching debate teams if anything explains how bludgeoning her treatment of the themes she deals in is.

>>24691135
>what are women thinking when they show their nips like this?
"I hope Chad eyefucks me." it's not that hard to understand. She wants to be stared at and chatted up and flirted with by a very attractive white man. In all likelihood, you are not that man. She also wants to receive ambient sexual attention because being desired feels good just generally speaking.

>>24691124
>academia is HORRIBLE and RACIST and we have to BURN IT DOWN
>I'm an ivy league striver teehee validation validation validation
Why are they all like this?

>>24691131
I just spent a week in Europe and I saw so many fucking nipples. Now I genuinely wonder if it's just American to hide nipples so fervently.

>>24691167
shit like this is why I still come on /lit/, thank you for linking an actually good piece on her

>>24691256
Has she actually spoken against academia or are you speaking generally? It's types like Kuang who've turned universities into daycares for overachieving young women who love studying and being told what to do

>>24691369
I've regularly read him for a long time and it was relevant, so I thought I may as well link it. I'm surprised anyone read it though , let alone replied, so thanks for that.

>>24691372
It's what her book Babel is about. She's given a lot of interviews about the book too, as if the book's message wasn't obvious enough already

I have it on good authority that she sucked her way to the top. Powerful suction, too. Not just a quickie, lickie, spitty type. Monstrous way with her lips and cheeks. And tongue. God, the tongue. It is forked, like a snake. She puts one and then the other fork into your third eye and alternates like that, and draws the fork up the shaft and ahh! You explode into that warm, gooey mouth, replete with Korean spit, which is thicker than American spit on account of their diet.

I swear to god I thought this was the Jade City/Green Bone saga girl when I read this whole thread. I realized my mistake and wanted to check the Green Bone Saga author's name so I googled "FC Yee" only to realize that's the name of the Avatar The Last Airbender novels lol.
Can't keep my Asian American authors straight. Am I racist?

>>24691427
I started the book not knowing anything about it or the author, just heard it was Historical Fantasy about Linguistics. Like 2 chapters in I knew it was a female author. It's covered in footnotes saying "Imperialism really was that bad, here's a fun fact about awful western people."

>>24691395
>True satire has to destabilize; it has to risk alienating the very people who would think of themselves as its natural audience. Yellowface never takes that risk. Kuang props up straw versions of industry villains (exploitative publishers, oblivious white women) without ever examining the deeper ambiguities of ambition, envy, and identity that could have made the book dangerous. It pretends to lampoon race discourse while actively rehearsing its most anodyne bromides. It claims to expose the way writers commodify pain while existing itself as a commodification, a slick package of publishing-scandal aesthetics designed to go viral on BookTok. Yellowface exemplifies the very disease it pretends to diagnose: literature reduced to discourse, fiction bent into the shape of online debate. It isn’t a satire of the system, but product placement within it. Kuang wants the glow of rebellion without the costs, the posture of provocation without the substance. It’s a hollow performance, made even weirder by the fact that Kuang’s sci-fantastical work appears genuinely motivated.
This is exactly right, IMO. "Yellowface isn't satire, it's product placement" is one hell of a zinger

>>24691124
>Goergetown,
>Cambridge
>Oxford
>Yale
Damn, that's embarassing! All that education and she's still a retard who can't create anything worth a shit. Goes to show how these woman-coopted instititions have been steadily losing credibility for decades.

>her grandparents fought against the Chinese
So she's a fair weather friend who'll sell out her own when it's most personally convenient? Good to know--keep that stinking traitor bitch away from me (implying there's any relation between a person and their parents's parents, in any case).

>>24691515
>implying there's any relation between a person and their parents's parents
Do you have a missing father Tyrone? If you grow up in an anti-communist household that literally fought a war against them, yes belief in western excellence and individualism is implied.

>>24691575
>If you grow up in an anti-communist household that literally fought a war against them, yes belief in western excellence and individualism is implied.
Is your argument really that children are necessarily ideological clones of their grandparents? Don't bother.

>western excellence
Let's not confuse what she's actually written---like all Asian diaspora lit, it's all an elaborate, disguised cope over the butthurt she felt when someone told her that her kimchi fucking stunk in the 1st grade. Nobody cares.

>>24691513
>Your waves at disdain towards the meritocratic world are a means to advance yourself within it, and you know it, and Hsu knows it, and the editors at The New Yorker know it, and all of its readers know it, and nobody knows it better than me. THAT is what I hate, the absurd premise that she’s unaware of how this piece serves as yet another prize that signifies her status as a prize-winner and which sets her up for future prizes.
Another good passage

>>24690496 (OP)
nips nip nips nip nips nips where buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

>>24691434
Are there any men left in publishing to suck off? It's all old lesbians now

>>24690496 (OP)
More like RF BOING!

>>24691765
Kek

Damn if this bitch looked at you sideways she'd disappear

>>24690496 (OP)
I prefer KK Wing!

>>24691601
>Is your argument really that children are necessarily ideological clones of their grandparents?
>Strawman

My argument is family culture is real, especially given wartime experience, Ever meet a Pole? or Balt? they hate communists. Likely her family experience of communist persecution influenced her writing and against these elite humanities students who are for open borders and communism.

>>24691646
Tight bod too

>>24691614
Yeah, that's a great zinger too. I wish Kuang would stop repressing herself underneath this weird lefty moralfagging superego bullshit

She says all the right things in a neat little package that makes limp wristed left wingers feel smart because she's regurgitating opinions that are "correct" to hold, which they already do.

>>24691928
Prizes and awards are purely egoistic bullshit. If artists nowadays really want to do something new, they should just quietly release their work and move on to the next thing instead of getting wrapped up in their own hype

>>24691957
The problem is that if you quietly release your work on your own, nobody will know it exists and nobody will read it. You have to debase yourself with self-promotion.

>>24691967
The fabric of society is so generally hostile to new artists now that things simply have to change if you want new art. Feeding into the system of self-promotion and egoism is not the solution. I can't tell if AI is going to make it unfixable or if people will get so sick of all the garbage "content" being produced that they'll crave genuine art made by genuine humans simply trying to get through life who don't huff their own farts and promote themselves like they're on LinkedIn

this twee cunt wants nothing more than to be white. she'll have to settle for white dick.

>>24692042
experience has taught me the more feminist anti-racist in the streets the more patriarchal BWC submissive in the sheets

>>24692102
I don't know who that is, can you post a picture of Kuang's hot tits instead

>>24691124
>grandparents fought against the chinese communists
those people (KMT) are now pro-communists if you follow the trends in taiwan. the taiwan government had to threaten them to stop them going to beijing to watch the big parade and join in the festivities

>>24692102
yummy yum yum. i'm going to start going to museums now

>>24690496 (OP)
Did no one tell this woman her nips were showing during the promotional photo shoot.

>>24692137
It was storyboarded
They brought ice cubes

>>24692133
>those people (KMT) are now pro-communists if you follow the trends in taiwan.

Don't ruin my fantasy of a literate bit tit anti communism Texas queen. Just like Paglia.
>she's our girl

>>24692137
That's the entire point. You're supposed to quietly slobber over them in your mind, but you're not supposed to ever once let on that you noticed her nips are showing.

>Kuang is married to Bennett Eckert-Kuang, a PhD student at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The couple met in high school.
Uh is RF Kuang a lesbian?

>>24692171
>Uh is RF Kuang a lesbian?

Pretty sure that's just what someone who is into Kant looks like as a man.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/kuang-and-bennett-eckert-attend-a24s-we-live-in-time-new-news-photo/2171074868

https://philpeople.org/profiles/bennett-eckert-kuang

>>24692171
>(aww, they're cute together!)
Everything about her life is exactly what I'd expect. Expensive private high school where she met her twink nerd white BF, grew up rich so she has to moan about how hard Asian women writers have it (just please please don't notice all my books are bestsellers and I was published as a teenager and I've won major prizes and I'm profiled in the New Yorker and my books were optioned for HBO please don't notice that it's so hard for us), I predict that within the next 5 years it'll come out that she wrote some really "#problematic" erotica where her self-insert character cums hard on a rapist minotaur cock or something

>>24692227
i'm happy for her and her. no part of me envies that SSRI perma-book launch lifestyle God knows it's hollow.

I found the foreword in Babel to scream of insecurity. Like she can't stand others thinking she's wrong.

>>24691983
I've been wondering something similar to this -- musicians can build an audience going direct to listeners, but there's not an equivalent infrastructure for writers

>>24692261
Jesus Christ lmao did she write forwards for all her books?

>>24691983
Anon, successful artists, including the writers feted here, have all been masters at self-promotion. It's just that instead of attention whoring online they sucked up to New York editors in person and made networks of Bohemian pals while getting drunk in France.

>>24691427
sorry; your argument is that you're not allowed to have a negative view of academia if you've gone through it?

>>24692261
>first paragraph explains the topic is prone to disingenuous faggotry
>uses it as an excuse to drop sources and receipts
you're reaching

>>24692261
This is fine. At worst she's schizophrenic and no one would ever actually make these complaints.

wild thread to read as a non-anglo
your lit establishment is a farce

>>24692366
Think whatever you want about whatever you want, but if you write a book that goes "ACADEMIA IS BAD AND DISGUSTING" and then I check in on you and see you're inside academia having a great time, and literally your entire life has been getting academia to pat you on the head and tell you you're very smart and very good, and you've made the decision to go back to academia several times of your own volition, I'm not going to take much of what you say seriously

>>24692374
>no one would ever actually make these complaints
No one on /lit/ would care. But her audience isn't the people who post on /lit/, it's BookTok and BookTube and BookTwt. And they would go apeshit because they're all hyperonline 14 year olds or hyperonline 14 year olds mentally, which is why they think Kuang is such a good writer

I keep forgetting how much yellow fever this website has.
I'm not disagreeing, but holy shit you fuckers are not even being subtle about it.

And I thought /lit/ wasn't pornbrained.

>>24692398
I appreciate a nice looking Asian
Sadly I learned the hard way that they are few. If Kuang had ass she would be exemplary. But Asians with a good face, good tits and a good ass are like unicorns. I liked the idea of them better when I was younger, before I learned the bitter pill that IRL most aren’t even mid, as I mature I gravitate to Med, Latina and Pajeet women. White women are pretty good also of course, black women have similar but different problems to Asians - though I would say truly hot black women are easier to come by.

>>24692111
>mongoloid sisters it's over

>>24692398
If you can't tell it's one schizo. Asians were perhaps an exotic catch last century but they're dime a dozen beta bait anymore.

I just hate how her books themes are so surface level. There has to be some more nitty gritty stuff that doesn't come from regurgitated undergraduate talking points

>>24692546
Unfortunately it's just an affirmation that success is about who you know, not what you know.

>>24692546
It sounds like watered down academic speak for a reason. Lots of authors these days are caught in this conflict of wanting to write about “in the moment” zeitgeist shit, without actually taking part in it. They are unable to write authentically about these things, as they best they can do is copy social media posts and ape the back-and-forth of internet banter. But there’s always been more to it than that. DFW came close but he offed himself before things really escalated.

The average /lit/ user is more in tune with this sort of thing than some affluent normie who was insulated from it all. This is not to say that “we are so special and no one can possibly understand us,” but that to write authentically about matters of race or politics in this age requires jumping into the mud, the shitposting and flame wars. When politicians are following social media “thinkers” and are directly exposed to their ideas, you can’t just stand back from it and pretend like you know what’s going on: you’ll need to participate to really get a feel for it.

But none of these authors are willing to drop the progressive act, to become jaded and vitriolic. To become more honest. They value social capital above all else, and in fact their art is just an extension of an apparatus meant to maintain social capital. So they’ll make bland statements and retweet safe politicians. But they’ll never be truly transgressive, never really make waves. And so they’ll always be on the periphery of that true pulse of the culture (not the pop meme culture, the real shit that everything else is a runoff of.) Kuang will be forgotten like the countless Ivy League English majors with too many prizes and not enough to say. Even Ocean Vuong is more admirable, because at least his abysmal poetry is coming from something authentic: Kuang writes as a detached observer, and that’s all her work seems to scream of.

>>24692578
Kuang is a post 1997 (Chinese takeover of Hong Kong) Chinese American. She doesn't have the experience she wants to write about. She writes from an affluent point of view in a white/asian mixed neighborhood. She never saw the ghetto turned affluent neighborhoods where Asians jammed into their own enclaves. She lived among whites in the richest neighborhoods in the world. She doesn't have the nuances of 1st generation 80s-90s Asian American experience which they speak their language to their parents and grandparents, but English to everyone else. These kids will always be seen as an outsider and see their parents struggle at some call-center or opening some old ass restaurant.

They're the stereotypical doctors, lawyers, teachers, whitecollar asians we see today.

>>24692398
Her tits and lips look nice in the photo shoot. What do you want from me?

>>24692710
If you feel sexually attracted to someone, then you're being manipulated by them.

>>24692546
It's almost like she's a 25 year old who spent her formative years in the bubble of academia.

>>24692820
she looks like she was 25 10 years ago

>>24691890
>strawman
that's not a strawman, those are your words

>Ever meet a Pole? or Balt? they hate communists
there are people who hate communists, there are people who love communists, there are people who are ambivalent, there are people who like communists under certain qualifications, there are people who liked communism, past tense, some people like communism in theory but not in practice, some people like it in practice but not in theory, there are people with spouses who hold the opposite beliefs, these people have children who are separate, and these children in turn become adults themselves and marry and have children of their own, all of whom to which the previous qualifications apply. Get the picture yet?

You're a fucking tard who can't distinguish between plausibility and truth. You can speculate in hell.

>Likely her family experience
Again, nobody gives a fuck about what you think is likely. Nobody gives a fuck about her weak, traitorous, self-serving changparents, who fled China or whatever during a time of crisis, when they were needed most, like rats from a sinking ship.

Her writing is dogshit, both in semantic and stylistic terms.

>>24690496 (OP)
Must of been a bunch of tall white dudes walking around off camera because it doesn't look cold enough for her to be sporting those diamond cutters.

>>24691469
> footnotes saying "Imperialism really was that bad, here's a fun fact about awful western people."
And yet she looks like she sucks white cock on the regular. Fascinating archetype. Is the performative anti whiteness some Freudian compensation for being a race traitor?

>>24692371
You know what, this is actually a solid take and you might have changed my mind a little.

Where do I go to get an Asian gf?
I’m too intelligent for university

>>24692864
From my experience with Asian American chicks? Definitely.

>>24690496 (OP)
Her work is superficial and exactly what publishers are looking for out of """ASIAN DIASPORA""" (an ineffable scourge) writers. She's a non-entity of the highest order. But I do think she's smart by taking advantage of whatever it is she has going on. Fair play to her.

>>24692387
>Non-Anglo
So you're some sort of tentacled, hideous, smelly fish-person, or worse, a Jew?

>>24692864
I genuinely think these girls don't care about the racial difference with white dudes. It's seperate to their conflict over either assimilating to western culture or trying to be more in touch with their heritage.

When whiteness is abolished it’ll just lead to a new hegemonic race of whites, Asians and high status Arabs/Indians/Latinos and the same under-race of blacks and low-status Arabs/Indians/Latinos

>>24693350
The funniest part about this is that she wrote a book about this exact thing called "Yellowface." It was her attempt to be taken seriously as a literary novelist. Of course, the publishing industry fell in love with it. Fascinating that what you type in this reply
>taking advantage of whatever it is she has going on
is 100% true and also one she pretends she's not doing

>>24690496 (OP)
Wow. Would coat in cum. Are her books any good?

>>24691124
>is anti-woke

are we just lying now

>>24694133
yes, paid or unpaid shills will blatantly lie to your face as a means corralling young men back to the faggot farm so they can sell them their mfa slopper schlock

>>24692978
Asia.

>>24692978
Canada or Australia

>>24694376
I live in Canada but the Asian girls are always shy and seem kind of frigid/uninterested.
I feel scared of approaching them whereas black girls, white girls or Indian girls will blatantly signal interest in ways I understand

>>24694412
That's probably because you're looking at FOB ones. You don't want one of those. It's like dealing with an autist, but in the worst way. You want a white-washed one. I've been with maybe a dozen. Still wouldn't recommend it over a white girl, but they're quite easy to get in Canada.

>>24690496 (OP)
>Rebecca F. Kuang is an American writer of fantasy novels
she writes fantasy, so no

>>24691167
could only read 5 paragaphs. holy shit this man did not need to restate 50 fucking times how annoying he found Hsu's writing

>>24692261
>worse if you are an american writing about oxford, for what do americans know about anything?
expertly said, ms Kuang.

>>24690496 (OP)
Her second attempt at literary fiction's coming out this time next year. Over/under on her including a scene where a mousy Asian academic is tormented by her hatred of white people but her love for BWC?

>le nips
I thought she was a chink!
>rf kuang
Had a gf who liked her. Cannot imagine anyone but the fakest of fakes reading her Yellowfafe. Seems almost confessional in meta ironic way. Poppy War seemed like YA. But did not delve deep. Vaguely proggy but safe bipoc feminista fantasy. Read Babel. Was unimpressed. But maybe if I was a teeniebopper I would have enjoyed it more. Typical YA fantasy. Supposedly dark academia or smthn. But if you wish for that then read Tartt's Secret History which at least tries to say something more interesting.

>>24691167
This substack article is pointless and petty, but I realize my complaints about RF Kuang are the same. I tried bolstering my complaints against Babel (the only book of hers that I've read) and I can't, she's too debate-team-captainy for me. Maybe I was wrong. Am I being pointless and petty?

>>24692546
It's striver literature. The striver doesn't think, create, innovate, push boundaries, or make new. The striver strives. The striver wants you to know they've done the reading and got the awards and got the applause. The striver cannot communicate without bragging. The striver does not exist when nobody is looking at them. The striver understands nothing about the world except for achievement. The striver cannot distinguish between being impressive and being meaningful. Kuang does not want you to think with her, or to think through the ideas she presents, she wants you to know she knows about the ideas she presents. It's the logic of the professional test-taker. Understanding doesn't matter. Neither does genuine creation. The only thing that matters is ticking the right box and getting the high score. Striver literature.

>>24695581
More and more I begin to feel like I should never read a book that wasn't written by a dead white man.

>>24695581
striver is too kind a word

>>24695394
>But maybe if I was a teeniebopper I would have enjoyed it more.
She seems like a writer for precocious 13 year olds

>>24690496 (OP)
are you a woman or otherwise homosexual? if you don't fall in any of those categories... what do you expect? women write trash, particularly minorities

you americans truly have gone a long way from imprisoning japs just for being japs to sort of adoring chink whores

>>24697004
White man has been fascinated by Asian pussy since he discovered it.
One of the very first things the Portuguese did as the first Europeans to ever step foot on Japan was acquire Japanese sex slaves. After the Meiji restoration with the liberalisation of Japanese marriage laws there was suddenly a thriving industry of white foreigners acquiring temporary Japanese wives for the duration of their stay.

>>24690496 (OP)
Get that titty out, girl! Let's see them tiddies!

how does asian disapora lit compare w/ the jewish equiv? how similar is it? is it as indulgent?

>>24697087
What makes Asian pussy better than white pussy?

>>24697536
Don't pretend she wouldn't look good tonguing your balls.

>>24697533
What makes merlot better than pinot noir?
There’s a broad spectrum of women and they all have their own flavour, but a man who loves wine is going to want to try them all. Back in the days of temporary Japanese marriages usually the westerners had white wives at home.

>>24697573
she's your average flat-assed gook goblin, so no

>>24695522
You're not being petty. Babel is the perfect book to be a hit in the 2020s, and Kuang is the perfect person to have written it. It could only have existed in this time, since it bends its story and characteres to fit the themes about a very American, very 21st-century view of race, without being interested in the time and place the story is supposedly about. Kuang takes for granted that the reader/publisher is already on board with her worldview, so puts no effort into having the characters make the case for it (In the scene where the white professor asks the main character "Why must it be Britain's problem if other nations fail to take advantage of what they have" his response is literally "He could think of nothing to say. There was something wrong with this argument, but he couldn't figure out what."
It's cynical because while it was a hit in genre spaces and the mainstream, it was all on the back of privately-educated liberal readers and publishers eating up its big Themes while ignoring that it fails in the basics of character, plot, pacing, and even worldbuilding (it fails as a hitpiece on academia because it's characters are so paper-thin that nobody could see themself in any of them), and as the article and other anons have said, it all rings even more hollow because Kuang herself seems to love academia, and all the success that the "white, patriarchal" establishment that she rages against as to offer.

>>24697727
>"He could think of nothing to say. There was something wrong with this argument, but he couldn't figure out what."
Yeah but eventually the main character sees that England was intentionally destabilizing colonies and extracting tons of resources, which is pretty fucking true isn't it? I mean, I already thought England's stance on the opium wars was insane before reading Babel.

>>24697868
For some reason there’s a lot more academic discussion about Britain doing that 200 years ago than there is about China doing it today.

>>24697868
NTA but the issue with Kuang's book isn't that
>England was intentionally destabilizing colonies and extracting tons of resources
isn't true. You're right, in a very broad 10,000 foot view sense, it is true. But the referenced scene in the book is expecting that the reader will be able to answer the professor's question immediately and unthinkingly. Kuang's trying to do some kind of dramatic irony, but it just comes off as insufferably preachy.

Big pink hands on golden oriental titties. Their big dark nipples glistening wet, linked to his chink by a thin thread of saliva

>>24697887
Hot damn that's a good fucking point I never thought of

>>24697916
and her cunt drooling at the sight of a BWC, a little voice in her head screaming breed breed breed breed breed, her clit itching with need

>>24697916
Her raven black hair fanned out on the pillow like a shining splash of ink. The air thick with the sweet wet stench of arousal, heady in his Aryan nose.

>>24690496 (OP)
She looks like the type who gets very upset when a man explains something to her but gets very wet when a man calls her a slut in bed.

>>24692261
>i got all the details wrong on purpose

>>24690496 (OP)
No, she's just bad. She wasted her youth by getting degrees and writing books and shit when she should have been obtaining nervous release by getting fucked to bits. Common woman L actually.

>>24691453
>Am I racist?
No. They really do all look the same.

>fuck white men why are we fetishized so much?
>wears no bra with thin tank top

No she is actually based. Yellowface was one of the best satires of SJW Twitter culture I've read. I wonder whether the literary establishment and pinhead Booktokers even read the entire book by the way they praised it when she was shitting all over wokeness.

>>24699305
She wants to be fetishized, desired, looked at -- the mistake is thinking she wants to be fetishized, desired, and looked at by *you.* She wants that from the man she thinks is hot hot hot hot hot, whoever he may be when she's out and about with her nips poking out. And even then she doesn't want him to grope her, or comment on her nips, not at first, that would be uncouth and repel her; she wants a man who is drawn in by the nips but who knows better than to say anything about them. Never let these women tell you they dress for themselves. It's always for other people. Again, the mistake is thinking that if they're not dressing for themselves, they must be dressing for you. Not for you. But not for themselves either

>>24699316
>Yellowface was one of the best satires
then you must be a woman with low, low standards

>>24699316
Ripping on retarded white American female SJWs tumblrettes who have never been out of the country but try to police all cultures in the world gets my dick hard. Should I read Yellowface?

>>24699841
She wants to be fetishized, desired, looked at by everyone. It's like men working out/doing roids to get buff as shit to feel good, but the equivalent for women is dressing like a whore.

>>24690496 (OP)
>RF Kuang
>Spouse: Bennett Eckert-Kuang
phd at yale and a husband who takes her name suggests she is to woke to care about
her wiki says her grandfather was a Nationalist and they "suffered" jap occupation so she is looking for things to moan about.

>>24692133
KMT (left wing version) still exist in Mainland China and are in the Chinese parliament as a national socialist party (pledging allegiance to the constitution which gives the communists the majority)

>>24692171
20 minutes effort to style that hair, every day
performative

>>24690496 (OP)
Crazy rich nepobaby who likes to pretend to be oppressed starving artist. Has degrees her papa paid but she learned nothing. Rebecca wow so chinese.

>>24691124
daddy's cash, she has achieved anything by working hard herself

>>24694558
Rebecca is (culturally) american.

>>24700078
lol it's the same nominal schtick as "Kenji Lopez Alt" where they abbreviate and re-arrange their name to sound as ethnic as possible. Fucking alcoholic

>>24700016
I question if her grandfather is 95+ years old. She would be 40+ for the generation gaps to make sense. Impossible for him to be under jap rule from the 30s-45s. Great grandfather is possible though

>>24700107
Wasn't Kenji his wife's surname but he took it and pretended he was vaguely Asian

>>24700157
post divorce arc
that's CAPTAIN Kenji to you, landlubber

>>24691903
You know I never really think about how strange asian side profiles are.

>>24700129
It's not unlikely, if her grandpa was 60-ish when she was born he would have memories of Japanese occupation of Taiwan and he would have been fighting age the post WWII part of the Chinese civil war. My grandma is exactly 60 years older than me. It's not a stretch at all.

>>24699316
it's such a limp satire because everyone who would read her book (NPR listeners, NYer subscribers, people who watch MSNBC, etc) already agrees with her. it's not even a biting satire of the publishing industry itself because the publishing industry fucking loves it. look at how much they promoted the fuck out of yellowface. its whole thing is "it's so bad when publishing makes asians reenact their racial pain" but that's exactly what the book's doing

Rebecca F. Kuang, now 25, had clawed her way into New York’s cutthroat publishing world. Her debut novel was a hit, but securing a second deal meant charming the right people. Tonight, that meant David Goldstein, a 55-year-old titan of the industry, whose sharp mind and rumored endowments preceded him. His penthouse office overlooked Manhattan, floor-to-ceiling windows framing the glittering skyline.
Rebecca arrived in a fitted red dress, her dark hair loose, accentuating her lithe frame. David, silver-haired with piercing green eyes, leaned back in his leather chair, sipping scotch. “You’re the talk of the town, Ms. Kuang,” he said, his voice smooth, Jewish accent faint but distinct. “But talent alone doesn’t seal deals. You know how this works.”
Her pulse raced. She’d heard the whispers—David’s appetites were as legendary as his contracts. “I’m ready to impress,” she said, her tone bold, though her thighs clenched with anticipation.
He stood, towering over her, his tailored suit hiding none of his authority. “Prove it, little dragon,” he said, the raceplay barb igniting a flush across her cheeks. He unzipped his trousers, revealing a thick, veined cock that made her breath catch. “On your knees.”
Rebecca obeyed, her knees hitting the plush carpet. His size was intimidating, but she leaned in, lips parting to take him, her tongue swirling around the tip. David groaned, his hand tangling in her hair. “That’s it, my exotic pet,” he murmured. “Show me how much you want this deal.”
She sucked eagerly, her small hands stroking what her mouth couldn’t handle, saliva dripping as she worked him. His words—degrading, possessive—stoked a fire in her core. “You’re so tight-lipped in meetings,” he said, thrusting deeper, making her gag. “But this mouth was made for me.”
He pulled her up, bending her over his desk, her dress hiked up to expose her soaked panties. “Look at this perfect Asian pussy,” he growled, ripping the fabric aside. His fingers probed her, then his cock pressed against her entrance, stretching her with a slow, deliberate thrust. Rebecca moaned, gripping the desk, the city lights blurring as pleasure overwhelmed her.
David fucked her hard, his hands bruising her hips, each thrust a claim. “You’re mine tonight,” he said, spanking her ass. She came twice, her cries echoing, before he pulled out, painting her back with his release. “Good girl,” he said, tossing her a contract. “Sign it.”
Rebecca, panting, smiled. She’d won again.

>>24700377

female hands typed this.

>>24700377
I'm sure you found that very appealing while writing it but remembering that the jewish dude probably looks like Harvey Weinstein with his hairy gunt and chopped up dick might somewhat undermine the passage.

>>24700408
>David Goldstein, a 55-year-old titan of the industry, whose sharp mind and rumored endowments preceded him. His penthouse office overlooked Manhattan, floor-to-ceiling windows framing the glittering skyline.
>Rebecca arrived in a fitted red dress, her dark hair loose, accentuating her lithe frame. David, silver-haired with piercing green eyes, leaned back in his leather chair, sipping scotch.

Behold the power of the female mind, the man is barely described, it really is all about his status, power, and surroundings.

>>24700408
Entirely intentional.

>>24692171
>>24700016
Two possibilities: either MIT boy is the most cucked, whipped shoyuman alive or else her pussy is absolutely unspeakable quality to the point he'll just do whatever he has to, kill whoever he needs to.

>>24700484
bitches like her are always fucking freaks in bed. male perversion is shit like fishnets and feet, female perversion is ravenous and truly unholy

>>24700497
She just looks like a freak period.

The poor kid is some beta cuck she bullied into a marriage. She knew she could lock him down and enjoy his stem degree vicariously. That dude doesn't have an ounce of T in his body.

>>24700497
This. Guys usually like their girl to be somewhat dirty, in general. Women's perversion is to be used like a fuckdoll with a meat hole or shit like being put on a dog leash.

>>24700643
I like dirty girls but it’s not what I really like. I like it when a girl likes being choked but I like it more when she doesn’t.

>>24700643
>Women's perversion is to be used like a fuckdoll with a meat hole or shit like being put on a dog leash
The first woman I met who confessed that her fantasy was to be a no rights no limits sex slave, I thought "huh, she's weird." The fifth time I heard this come out of other women's mouths, I thought "Christ, women are weird"

Also why is it always the nerdy ones like Kuang? The SEC sorority types just want to be spanked a little, but the nerds want a psychopath to abduct them and turn them into a chained up sexdoll or some shit. You'd think more dick leads to more perversion, but it seems as if the lack of dick forces these nerdy women to turn to continuously more extreme kinds of pornography (written, visual, audio, whatever)

>>24700842
>Also why is it always the nerdy ones like Kuang?
It's because they're extremely repressed. Think about it: that psychotic striverism comes from a place of deep insecurity and maybe even self-hatred: a constant need to prove themselves, a perpetual need to be the best so people can't say (reveal the awful truth that) you're worthless. For a person like that, absolute debasement is a cathartic release, and the idea of simply being liberated from the entire stressful burnout rat race in favor of blind obedience, pleasure and ecstatic sensory experience is like an image of paradise.

Or if you prefer to think of it another way these people are control freaks, but that kind of excessive self-control is a prison and so total loss of control is again cathartic, since it's the sum of your fears coming true. And sho on and sho on, as the greasy Slovenian would say.

>>24700860
>since it's the sum of your fears coming true
Sorry, didn't finish this sentence. Since it's the sum of your fears coming true *while also freeing you* is what it should say.

>>24700860
This makes sense, but I really think the uninterrupted constant porn use has something to do with it. Imagine being a kid and reading "Second Fiddle In Boy Band Castrated And Turned Into Sex Pet By Cruel Fan" fanfiction before bed instead of Junie B. Jones

>>24700886
Well, do you think the future cheerleaders, sorority girls and random bimbos don't? All that does to them is because they end up with decent self-esteem for various reasons so they just get laid and maybe ask the guy to spank them a little, or they get into black guys (rare, in spite of common fetishposting on parts of 4chan), or they enjoy deep throating a bit more than you'd expect someone without a clit in her pipe to do, or something else like that that's basically just a bit edgy. The ones with the fantasies about getting gangbanged raw by fifteen guys or absolutely shredded with a whip or having their limbs amputated so they aren't good for anything but getting fucked are all either nerdy overachievers or former fat girls.

>>24700901
The future cheerleaders were just masturbating to the guys in One Direction, it was the nerdy girls writing fanfic about being their sex slaves where they’re also vampires.

>>24700977
>"Second Fiddle In Boy Band Castrated And Turned Into Sex Pet By Cruel Fan" fanfiction
is basically whacking it to One Direction but sure, now you're talking about a point where the sorting has already happened and the nerd girl knows she's a nerd, etc.

>>24701000
That point of sorting usually happens before puberty or early into it.
> is basically whacking it to One Direction but sure
Sure but there’s whacking it to 1D and then there’s whacking it to being Count Harry Stylesula’s sex slave

>>24701018
>Sure but there’s whacking it to 1D and then there’s whacking it to being Count Harry Stylesula’s sex slave
kek
No disagreement on that point.

>>24699305
Every time!

>>24700377
Yeah I don't think this was written by a woman. Only guys find the fat ugly bastard trope hot.

>>24690550
be thankful you aren't Australian, we're fucking drowning in it

>>24690496 (OP)
>>24691903
>>24692042
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>>24697471
Absolutely would

>>24701569
Gerald Murnane is so good balances it out. Also obligatory drowning in Asian pussy joke

>>24700129
I'm two years older than her, and my grandfather if he were alive now would be 106 years old. Parents had me in their late 30s and my mum's parents had her late.

>>24690496 (OP)
>>24691903
>>24692042
>>24692227
>>24697471
Now that's the type of body of work I could get behind

>>24702828
boo