Thread 24691687

people who read a lot and know history well enough, do you think that antisemitism has rational enough roots for us to be antisemitic now

What should be wrong or irrational about antisemitism?

>>24691694
what if it was based on superiority of jews

>>24691687 (OP)
if everyone kills at least one jew the world would be a much better place

>>24691710
you're a mentally ill psychotic, seek help at once

>>24691687 (OP)
No, antisemitic arguments all hinge on exaggerating the dissonance between the retarded mainstream "Jews can't do anything wrong ever" narrative and the reality where they do in fact engage in nepotism, selfishness, etc. like any other ethnic group does or has. Just because someone lied to you doesn't mean the exact opposite of the lie is true.

>>24691717
you're right the issue isn't the jews its the muttgolems that enable them

>>24691687 (OP)
Anyone who reads a lot and knows history well enough would know that the term antisemitic is basically a buzzword that is used as a tool by zionist and grifters. Much like later terms like homophobic and islamphobic.

Don't play into the word games of your enemy.

Jews are responsible for a disproportionate amount of humanity’s greatest achievements in the arts and sciences. So many of the great things we take for granted would be unimaginable without Jews. Simply look at the number of Jewish Nobel Prize recipients and the achievements for which they are responsible. If anti-Semites had succeeded in eliminating the Jews, humanity would be terribly impoverished.

At the same times, Jews just can’t seem to stop themselves from acting really fucking JEWISH

>>24691751
I do not need Louise Glück or Robert Zimmerman thank you

>>24691726
I think it's a bit dishonist to act like the behavor of jews is comparable to all other ethnic groups or that nepotism and selfishness are the only issues people have with them.

You don't get kicked out of over a hundred countries and antagonize every population you live among just by doing what every other ethnic group does or a bit of nepotism. They have a odd mix of superiority complex and persecution complex that makes them feel morally justified in truly abhorrent behavor that most people get fed up with. Jewish culture is built on excessive pride and playing up being the victim even as they victimize.

>>24691762
>I think it's a bit dishonist to act like the behavor of jews is comparable to all other ethnic groups
Read classical literature. Roman emperors would crucify tens of thousands just to prove a point. Whatever bad shit Jews have done is nothing new or unique except for the unique-in-history context of Christian European civilization.
>You don't get kicked out of over a hundred countries and antagonize every population you live among just by doing what every other ethnic group does or a bit of nepotism
Tons of people have been genocided and expelled in similar ways, what makes the Jews unique is largely just their stubbornness in not assimilating and maintaining their traditions. Do you think the anglo saxon conquest of England or William the Bastard's harrowing of the north were peaceful, happy events? What about the German "crusades" against the Balts and the Balts brutalization of relatively peaceful christian Germans, slavs, etc. before that? What have Jews, even if you accept all the "raped and killed christian kids" tales, done that surpassed the degenerate crimes of Caligula and Elizabeth Bathory?

I'm not so much saying that Jews are innocent, but that literally no one is. Our combined history is constant violence, oppression, and tragedy.

Anti-semitism was an imbecilic ideology in the mid-20th century that led a nation into abject defeat and near self-destruction. It is a loser ideology. Zionism is also anti-Semitic, for two reasons:

First, it is structurally the same as anti-semitism, a supposedly once-healthy body politic is infiltrated by an insidious power that is at simultaneously all-powerful and yet weak and subhuman: the Palestinian and the “Palestine lobby.” This is why Nazism created the non-sensical judeo-Bolshevik concept, they literally could not conceptualize social contradictions within the German nation and just made up the idea that aryan German communist workers were Jews or were mind-controlled. For the same reason, you can see Israeli society calling Jews protesting for a negotiation to return the hostages “Hamas”

The second reason is more particular to the Jews. The ideology of Zionism rejected the civic nationalism that was birthed in the Enlightenment, that regardless of race or creed, you were French, German, etc. Zionism instead accepted the premise that nation and racial origin were synonymous, and that the Jew was incapable of integration into European society. The overlap between anti-semites and zionists was basically 1:1, it was the motivation for the Balfour Declaration and it was the nazi’s express purpose to find a Jewish homeland in Africa or wherever before they needed a scapegoat after getting utterly destroyed by Soviet industrial supremacy in 1943-1944 and began the final solution.

The dialectical irony of our moment is that becoming anti-Semitic in the west plays into Zionism, the blame for Israeli genocide will be placed squarely on anti-Zionist Jews for the simple fact of being Jewish, thus recreating the very conditions that gave rise to Zionism: the impossible integration of Jews into western society, and thereby bolstering Israel’s claim of being the only place safe for Jews (and the continuation of Israel’s plans to turn the Middle East into a vast lebensraum, see the Yinon plan).

Antisemitism and Zionism are the same.

Is this the virgin containment thread

>>24691810
So your only argument is whataboutism and disingenuous comparisons of apples and oranges to make that whataboutism claim.

I want you to reflect on your argument in the context of what is being disused. Maybe with reflection you can conclude why it is nether convincing nor compelling.

I see this same form of argumentation whenever the CCP's or USSR's wrongdoings are brought up.

>>24691845
The fuck are you talking about? Just about every antisemitic argument I've seen is predicated on claims that the Jews have committed some exceptional crime, or are currently doing so. It's not convincing or compelling to you because antisemitism is part of your identity the same way trannyism is to a tranny. I get it, but it's still wrong.

>>24691815
no, that's the TAG thread.

>>24691815
it's the JIDF zoomie thread

>>24691867
And now you are strawmaning and making baseless assumptions about someone you don't know instead of engaging in self reflection.

Think about your argument, not think up insults to spew.

>>24691894
You are retarded anon

>>24691810
surprisingly, the only intelligent perspective in this inarguably profoundly low iq thread.

>>24691810
Jewish cruelty is weaselly and subversive and when they take the mask off is when the problem of their existence starts to rapidly get sorted out.

Somebody pill me on anti-semitism, as an American I care about Fentanyl + street violence and mass immigration.

If we arrest some 40 important Hebrews + Soros, all that is going to stop? I think not.

>>24691950
Arrest every politician accepting their money for treason

>>24691950
A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500 not top 40.

Name something that you don't like about society, and there will be a jew at the forefront of its advocates. I don't hate Jews as a group, but that's a little weird, isn't it?

>>24691955
Arrest every politician accepting their money
I want to name the solution to a problem, in order to fix it. Like if my house is on fire, the solution isn't pointing out pornography is also bad.

>>24691958
A lot of it would, but it'd take the top 500
Feels like Stalin tried all that with deporting different ethnic groups everything still sucked.

Solzhenitsyn wrote:
>If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.

>>24691728
Are these muttgolems in the room with us right now, Hans?

>>24691815
Roastie hands typed this

>>24692034
>But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.
Trvthnvke

>>24692034
getting put in a cage for life is an example for other hylics

>>24691751
It's just nepotism, laddy. You need connections to get those jobs and posts that allow you to do research and you even need connections to win the prizes.

>>24691687 (OP)
Jewishness is a crime against humanity, but there is nothing racially inherent in those who call themselves Jews that makes them bad imo. Jews are raised since birth to believe in genocidal nonsense about how they're a chosen race that's meant to enslave all goyim.

>>24691751
>If anti-Semites had succeeded in eliminating the Jews, humanity would be terribly impoverished.
True places like Scandinavia wouldn't be ENRICHED without the likes of Barbara Lerner Spectre or Ervin Kohn.

>>24691810
The difference is that Jews did not leave behind their psychotic behaviour in antiquity.

>>24691687 (OP)
>/lit/s staple anti-semitism thread
you are spreading hate

>>24691867
>or are currently doing so.
Your pathetic strawman aside, yes they are. Their treatment of Palestinians is, in this cruel world, bizarrely unique.

>>24691950
You will never stop people wanting to get high. That's a pipe dream.

>>24691950
You could kill every fent dealer in America tomorrow and the opioid trade would be back up and running by Monday.

>>24692671
>You will never stop people wanting to get high.
>>24692690
>opioid trade would be back up and running by Monday.

Fent chemicals are from China, made/trafficked into America by Mexicans and sold by blacks to whites+everyone else, it's not about trying to stop people getting fucked up, but this global drug has killed 100K americans a year. People can huff glue or drink themselves til they get sober instead.

>>24691687 (OP)
The more I read the more I admire Jews

>>24692654
Do you have some constructive input on how I can spread more?

>>24691687 (OP)
Which one? There are many reasons to be 'anti-semitic' and many forms of anti-semitism. There's a universe of difference between having misgivings about the state of Israel and believing blood libel.
>>24691732
First use of the term was by self-styled anti-semites. Not comparable at all.
>>24691950
Well if you dismantled the Sackler business empire a lot of the opiod crisis would stop.
And imo you should probably care about Jews and their ethno-state getting preferential treatment in your government. Out of principle.
>>24692477
Histrionic nonsense. The self-contained Orthodox Jew is pretty benign.

>>24691732
>the term antisemitic is basically a buzzword that is used as a tool by zionist and grifters.
The term "antisemitism" was popularized by antisemite Wilhelm Marr because he thought the term "Jew-hate" sounded bad and "antisemitism" sounded more rational. As it is, I think the term "anti-Zionist" is following a similar path.

>>24691687 (OP)
hate is retarded mostly, if you hate anyone but actual individuals that you know then you’re retarded. Imagine seething behind a computer screen filled with hate over people you’ve never even met. Most self proclaimed anti semites can’t even name 3 jews they specifically hate and why they deserve that kind of animosity
most people who are anti semites are just
inarticulate retards mad at the world who want a boogeymen to blame for things that are bad

>>24692983
Marr is a must-read. I think we should create a reading least for people who wanna be woke about (((racism)))

>>24693001
I think he does a good job of illustrating how even "scientific" antisemites tend to invest Jews with nearly supernatural powers.

>From feeble beginnings [Jewry] has grown beyond you, has corrupted the entire society with its views, has pushed any kind of idealism out of society, has the most decisive position in commerce, penetrates increasingly into state offices, governs the theater, constituting a socio-political phalanx, and has left you little more than the rough manual labor it has always shied away from… Does not Jewry flow into every pore of our lives? … I bow down in wonderstruck admiration before this Semitic people that has put its foot upon our necks.

>>24692990
I think it manifests as stereotyping more than it manifests as seething hatred towards every single member of that ethnic group. I don't hate all jews, but when I meet one, I have behavioral expectations of them that may or may not actually apply to the person. For example, I expect them to be cheap, manipulative, backstabbing, perpetual victims, etc; I have met a number of jewish individuals that were none of these things and enjoy their company. I think it's a lot like the prison scene in American History X, where he gets assigned laundry duty with the black dude and expects him to behave a certain way, and when that guy defies the stereotypes that edward norton anticipates from him, they become good buddies

No, were really should create a reading list for aspiring antisemites. I'm starting when I'm home (done with my Frondienst for the Finanzjudentum.)

What i'm seeing in the world today re-affirm the sickness of antisemitism, from the obsessive hatred, double standard, conspiracies and limitless lies and projections thrown at the Jewish people/state, The world is sick, always has been, And the marching on of the Jews in spite of it, the endless positive contributions Jews make to civilization, to the ungrateful people who frankly don't deserve it, Is inspiring.

>>24693104
You are very naive, my boy.

>>24691933
Hello rl

>>24693104
You deserve every sick disease you Jews vermin for ruining the nations.

Hitler was right about you

I'm against zionists, not jews. you can be jewish and not be a zionist, just like you can be white and not support the creation of a white ethnostate. I'm against all ethnostates, for that matter.
antisemitism is bigotry and that's that.

>>24691687 (OP)
The roots (blatant Jewish ethnic tribalism) were always rational, but the implementation of every single antisemitic platform or movement is retarded because antisemitism only ever targets Jewish plebs, and never ever ever ever does anything whatsoever about the actual problem which is Jewish elites.

This completely discredits the entire concept of the ethnic approach, since it turns out that even the most racepilled JQmaxxed turbopurists will never refuse a chance to literally fellate the circumsized cock of their "greatest racial enemy" until an orgasm and swallow the ejaculate to the last drop as long as he's paid enough for it.

>>24691687 (OP)
the jews are to be pitied for the being puppets of the talmud.

>>24693204
Hitler was right about everything

>>24691687 (OP)
History is generally useless as to determining current affairs unless you mean to say you read modern history. The politics of much of the Middle Ages and all of Antiquity are frankly irrelevant to today if you’re trying to make some comparison, and as such only idiots try to make the comparison by essentially just lying or fabricating ties that aren’t there

>>24693244
Even killing himself?

I think Hitler maybe started out with a genuine love for his country and people but it turned into a sick rotten thing by the end. National socialism was satanic and deeply evil.

>>24691762
>don't get kicked out of over a hundred countries and antagonize every population you live among just by doing what every other ethnic group does or a bit of nepotism


you do when the pope is literally telling people you killed jesus and are responsible for it