>>24695038 (OP)
This is my trivium in three books guide. >Grammar
Chicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation >Logic
The Book of Proof >Rhetoric
Paradise Lost
>>24696163
Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.
>>24695062
I don't blame you for having this idea of grammar, logic and rhetoric as being something very superficial, I blame public school. When I said you turn out a retard I didn't mean you LOOK like a retard due to minor things like spelling mistakes, I meant something much deeper. The Trivium is the tools of thought, how to think, skip one of the three and you won't know how to think.
>>24696182 >For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek.
The trivium is some holy rite to enter some secret society. The purpose of learning the trivium is to learn how to think and communicate well. If you're communicating in English, then you should study English grammar.
>>24696182 >For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek.
The trivium isn't some holy rite to enter some secret ancient society. The purpose of learning the trivium is to learn how to think and communicate well. If you're communicating in English, then you should study grammar in English.
>>24695038 (OP)
Grammar is gay. All that matters in a sentence is if other people can understand it, which falls under logic and rhetoric. Trying to use "proper" grammar is just extra fluff that adds no substance and serves absolutely no useful function. German could get rid of grammatical gender and function just fine.
>>24697758
It is though since it's studied in Freemasonry. I'm talking about the real Trivium, not the fake Trivium that homeschoolers do. Latin and Greek have a richer grammar than English so English is not a substitute. And it doesn't matter which language you speak, this isn't grammar in the way we know grammar from school in English or a foreign language, there you get the hollowed out bare necessities for being able to speak Spanish to ask for directions or whatever. This is something else entirely. It's about how to think. The Trivium was an 8 year school in the past. Those who studied the Trivium in the past didn't speak Latin or Greek. The online pop versions and homeschooling versions you can keep for yourself. This thread is about the real deal.
>>24697701 >>24697780
In the Trivium, Grammar is the foundational stage of learning, focused on understanding the basics. Similar to Adler’s 'Elementary Reading.' You can tell that /lit/ skips over Grammar and Logic and jumps straight to Rhetoric while being unskilled in all three.
