Thread 24695038

Skip one of these and you turn out a complete retard.

>>24695038 (OP)
You're a clear example, for starters.

I think I've mastered grammer more then logik and rethoric.

>>24695038 (OP)
What goes in the medium item slots? Dicks in two holes and a wound?

>>24695042
>>24695074
>>24695175
Thanks for proving my point.

>>24695042
fpbp

>>24695042
>>24695074
>>24695175
>>24695609
>t. total anti-intellectuals

>>24695038 (OP)
This is my trivium in three books guide.
>Grammar
Chicago Guide to Grammar, Usage, and Punctuation
>Logic
The Book of Proof
>Rhetoric
Paradise Lost

>>24696103
The grammar in the Trivium is Latin and Greek.

>>24696129
The grammar is for whatever language you're speaking or writing.

>>24696163
Which grammar is? For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek. I looked up your book and it's about English. Also grammar in the past was more of a philosophical subject, with stuff like what you see in picrel.

That's from this book: https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

Here's another old book:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summa_Grammatica

>>24695038 (OP)
>caring about grammer or rhetoric
lol pea brained op back at it

As a general rule avoid anything published in the last century.

¤Institutes of Grammar by Priscian of Caesarea

¤Summa Grammatica by Roger Bacon

¤Summa Logicae by William of Ockham

¤Logic or the Right Use of Reason in the Inquiry After Truth by Isaac Watts

¤Port-Royal Logic by Antoine Arnauld and Pierre Nicole

¤The Organon by Aristotle

¤Rhetoric by Aristotle

¤Isagoge by Porphyry

¤Lectures on Logic by Immanuel Kant

¤Lectures of Logic by G.W.F. Hegel

¤Metalogicon by John of Salisbury

¤Rules for the Direction of the Mind by René Descartes

>>24695062
good for you! time to work on that orfografy next

>>24695062
I don't blame you for having this idea of grammar, logic and rhetoric as being something very superficial, I blame public school. When I said you turn out a retard I didn't mean you LOOK like a retard due to minor things like spelling mistakes, I meant something much deeper. The Trivium is the tools of thought, how to think, skip one of the three and you won't know how to think.

>>24695038 (OP)
True dat

>>24695548
what point?

the smartest man i've known in my life has piss poor grammar and he's a college professor

>>24696182
>For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek.
The trivium is some holy rite to enter some secret society. The purpose of learning the trivium is to learn how to think and communicate well. If you're communicating in English, then you should study English grammar.

>>24696182
>For the Trivium the grammar is Latin and Greek.
The trivium isn't some holy rite to enter some secret ancient society. The purpose of learning the trivium is to learn how to think and communicate well. If you're communicating in English, then you should study grammar in English.

>>24695038 (OP)
I unironically think this explains autism much better than modern medicine. Skip one of these and you turn out a complete autist.

>>24695038 (OP)
Grammar is gay. All that matters in a sentence is if other people can understand it, which falls under logic and rhetoric. Trying to use "proper" grammar is just extra fluff that adds no substance and serves absolutely no useful function. German could get rid of grammatical gender and function just fine.

>>24697758
It is though since it's studied in Freemasonry. I'm talking about the real Trivium, not the fake Trivium that homeschoolers do. Latin and Greek have a richer grammar than English so English is not a substitute. And it doesn't matter which language you speak, this isn't grammar in the way we know grammar from school in English or a foreign language, there you get the hollowed out bare necessities for being able to speak Spanish to ask for directions or whatever. This is something else entirely. It's about how to think. The Trivium was an 8 year school in the past. Those who studied the Trivium in the past didn't speak Latin or Greek. The online pop versions and homeschooling versions you can keep for yourself. This thread is about the real deal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivial_school

>>24697780
Youre brainwashed by public school and know nothing about grammar.

>>24698163
>Freemasonry
Now I know you're retarded

>>24697701
>>24697780
In the Trivium, Grammar is the foundational stage of learning, focused on understanding the basics. Similar to Adler’s 'Elementary Reading.' You can tell that /lit/ skips over Grammar and Logic and jumps straight to Rhetoric while being unskilled in all three.

>>24695042
Thread should have ended here.

>>24697780
that's akin to saying bones are overrated for fitness or assembly is irrelevant for programming, retard

http://www.themasonictrowel.com/Articles/degrees/degree_2nd_files/the_seven_liberal_arts_and_sciences_gl_tx.htm

https://masonicfoundation.org/who-we-are/the-fellow-craft-degree/

https://masonicrevival.wordpress.com/2016/04/10/freemasonry-and-its-ritual-an-in-depth-exploration/

https://blog.philosophicalsociety.org/2017/05/24/the-seven-liberal-arts-the-trivium/

https://masonicfind.com/liberal-arts-of-freemasonry

https://sacred-texts.com/mas/syma/syma43.htm

https://www.lightandboston.co.uk/freemasonry-trivium-and-quadrivium-no-218.htm

https://www.thesquaremagazine.com/mag/article/2024q2the-ancient-liberal-arts-in-freemasonry/

http://www.midnightfreemasons.org/2023/02/chatgpt-and-trivium.html?m=1

https://issuu.com/thecabletow/docs/cabletow2021-4/s/17706741

https://masonicfind.com/differences-between-the-entered-apprentice-fellow-craft-degree

https://www.lewismasonic.co.uk/handbooks/fellow-craft/the-fellow-crafts-friend.htm

https://www.mainemason.org/resources/masonic-instructors-manual/fellowcraft/

https://freemasonry.network/masonic-rules/secrets-and-symbols/masonic-symbolism/various-topics-related-masonic-symbolism/fellow-craft-degree-staircase-lecture-7-liberal-arts-and-sciences/

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Manual_of_the_Lodge/System_of_Monitorial_Instruction/Fellow_Craft's_Degree

Freemason Philosophy for the 21st Century by Jack Buta

>>24695175
Lol

>>24696103
>The Book of Proof
I'm studying Euclid's Elements but I'll check this out.

>Paradise Lost
Are you saying reading it is good for learning rhetoric?

>>24697780
>layed
Kek