The Manuscript Found in Saragossa
What a wild ride, it's weird this book is not more popular
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 5:38:47 AM
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>>24698929 (OP)
Most people just don't know that it exists.
The film is great as well.
>in the sleep of reason, monsters appear
>"monsters"=some owls and a cat
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 2:16:47 PM
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>>24699774
>>24699361
I mean I would be slightly perturbed if a bunch of owls and a cat randomly showed up at any moment.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 2:20:09 PM
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>>24699771
That happens in my yard every night
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 2:27:50 PM
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>>24710611
>>24699361
think about how the largeness of a woman's eyes or the 'freshness of her countenance' was enough to send a 19th-century man into a protracted period of erotic mania, and now many people have to seal themselves into goon caves and blast porn on multiple monitors to feel some flicker of desire. i imagine something similar has occurred with our sense for the spooky.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 2:45:50 PM
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what's your favourite story?
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 2:51:06 PM
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>>24699842
>>24698929 (OP)
I know nothing about this book. Can someone tell me what it's about
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 3:09:42 PM
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>>24699813
>Can someone tell me what it's about
No. That is probably actually impossible, and only partly because the author forced his priest to shoot him in the head before he finished it.
But it starts with a young Spanish nobleman being dispatched to take up an officer's post in the Walloon Guards. He has to cross the Sierra Morena to get there. It turns out to be harder than expected.
>>24699361
They are nocturnal animals.
It's such a midwit idea, though. Hume retroactively BTFO'd this idea of Reason being the be-all, end-all of morality almost a century before Goya.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 4:19:58 PM
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>>24698929 (OP)
Is this the only existing english translation?
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 5:27:38 PM
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>>24698929 (OP)
>saragossa mentioned
Let's fucking go obscure bros. I hope more publishers release it, it can't die in oblivion.
>>24698929 (OP)
not to try to one up you, but i recommend this even more obscure gothic story cycle from the early 19th century
I read the first half, got tremendously bored, and dropped it. It just felt like too much of a structural (i.e. not fun to read) novel, like it was designed with standing out or proving a point as the main goal rather than being actually good, and like it showed its hand early on and would have had steadily less to offer had I kept going. Can't help but lump it in with novelties like The Master and Margarita, The Dictionary of the Khazars, and all that other showy and mildly irritating Slavic lit.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 5:44:44 PM
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>>24700119
I'm from the region and I hate how the last thirty-five years around here were spent aping the absolute worst trends in the absolute worst ways.
Your three choices are
>magical realism decades after it stopped being cool
>boilerplate pomo shit decades after it stopped being impressive
>the grand saga of your jewish haute bourgeois ancestors in the capital - if you have any, but if you're plugged into the mainstream literary scene, you probably do - until the unspeakable happened
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 6:06:43 PM
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>>24700116
Thanks, I didn't know about this one.
Anonymous
9/5/2025, 8:29:42 PM
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>>24699361
There are at least two cats, and also a bunch of bats.
>>24700116
If we're doing suggestions: Told By The Death's Head by Mór Jókai. In some ways a very similar tone to the Manuscript, in some ways very different.
>>24700119
Your taste is objectively shit. There's a consetllation somewhere in the cosmos spelling out a mathematical proof of it.
Will i enjoy this if i enjoy other gothic literature? Is it as good as melmoth?
Anonymous
9/6/2025, 8:32:38 AM
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>>24700526
It's not really very similar to Melmoth at all.
Anonymous
9/6/2025, 1:24:39 PM
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>>24699940
>Hume retroactively BTFO'd this idea of Reason being the be-all, end-all of morality almost a century before Goya
What does this have to do with the original quote/greentext? Can you elaborate?
Anonymous
9/6/2025, 9:04:38 PM
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>>24704427
>>24699361
I once saw a giant man sized owl when i went outside my apartment building to smoke a cigarette
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:17:01 AM
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Slightly related but not really: the "Saragossa" opening is an usual chess opening where White opens up with 1. c3. This isn't a great first move, but it's also not horrible (not like moving the f or g pawns), and is likely to simply transpose into a conventional opening which entails c3 at an appropriate moment.
1. c3 got its name because it was played as a sort of meme in Saragossa during the early 20th century. On one occasion, a tournament was held in which White was always required to open with it.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:23:47 AM
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>>24699940
Cats are crepuscular. Owls are mixed bag here, while some are strictly nocturnal they are not the rule and there are diurnal owls and also some who shift between diurnal and nocturnal. Not sure if there are crepuscular owls but it wouldn't surprise me.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 3:29:12 AM
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>>24703332
That was no owl, it merely looks like an owl. It was a demon. Accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior if you haven't already, and pray. The very fact that you saw it suggests to me that you are in grave danger.
Anonymous
9/7/2025, 2:38:52 PM
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>>24698929 (OP)
I've never heard of it before. Sell it to me.
Anonymous
9/8/2025, 8:00:21 AM
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>>24700526
>Melmoth
Anti Catholic, protestant propaganda
Anonymous
9/8/2025, 12:01:15 PM
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>>24707731
All gothic literature is anti catholic buddy
Anonymous
9/8/2025, 12:41:29 PM
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>>24698929 (OP)
What are some other underrated novels from non-major European countries (France, UK, Germany, Russia, Italy)?
Anonymous
9/9/2025, 8:24:38 AM
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>>24698929 (OP)
One of my favourite books... Proto-psychedelic, it influenced Robert Anton Wilson's work imo.
>>24699777
>think about how the largeness of a woman's eyes or the 'freshness of her countenance' was enough to send a 19th-century man into a protracted period of erotic mania, and now many people have to seal themselves into goon caves and blast porn on multiple monitors to feel some flicker of desire. i imagine something similar has occurred with our sense for the spooky.
Go over to /tv/ and look at the threads concerning “Wednesday” and the pics of Emma Myers, and since the second season came out, Evie Templeton.
Big Eyes and a fresh countenance is still sending men into a state of “erotic mania”.
Anonymous
9/9/2025, 10:30:30 PM
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>>24713740
>>24710611
>he thinks the snood spammer is the whole board and not just a single schizo
Its the same with gadonfag
Anonymous
9/10/2025, 4:39:06 PM
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>>24714827
>>24710611
>>24711936
those are just images, not the same thing
but it definitely still happens irl, in fact it's even common
(zoomer males react to such passions by trooning out since it's the only socially acceptable form of release)
Anonymous
9/11/2025, 2:22:06 AM
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>>24699947
there are others but this is the only complete one i think.
Anonymous
9/11/2025, 2:33:01 AM
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>>24699361
>Trying to get some sleep
>Owls hooting in my ear
>Cats clawing at my legs
Sounds pretty spooky to me, anon