Thread 24711903

Is it really good writing if the reader has no idea what’s going on every other page?

>>24711903 (OP)
I was reading Yeats‘ Irish folklore collection and there was one part where liquor is referred to as mountain dew. Irish anons, is this a thing?

>>24711903 (OP)
Literary degree types will say yes, because of some gobbledygook bullshit. Personally, I don't like most of it, only select sections are worthwhile. From front to cover, it's pretty overrated.

>>24711909
Seems to have been a thing. In other news, the drink was developed specifically to mix with Tennessee whiskey.

>>24711916
The board is getting more and more stupid over the years. Ten years ago, this type of bullshit non-thought would've been laughed off the board. I need to leave, there's nothing worth reading left.

>>24711922
>you have a different opinion, I must leave!
Leftism is a mental disorder

>>24711922
I think Reddit is more your speed.

>>24711903 (OP)
I do resent the shift towards overly cerebral literature, where narrative power, sincere emotion, universal themes, are sidelined and the main draw instead is the discussion of the ideas. People will lament the dwindling number of general readers then celebrate 800 page tomes of the driest content imaginable.

>>24712014
GR was published in 1973... You're generations late in this complaint, and the trend has passed. Yet this place, to...

>>24711922
Most of /lit/ can not even entertain the idea that they are stupid; they default to the conclusion that if they don't get something it is obviously a quality issue and not their fault because they know people will be ready to validate them. Slothrop is the everyman.

>>24712022
Isn’t it the archetypal book for people “not getting it?” It’s not a /lit/ issue

>>24711903 (OP)
How many covers does this book have?

>>24711903 (OP)
Post the passage that filtered you

>>24712014
>>24712014
>narrative power, sincere emotion, universal themes
all are present in abundance in GR

>>24712014
I wouldn't even call GR cerebral. It's like wondering around a huge theme park and exploring the service tunnels beneath it. Some of the rides just happen to be idea themed, and some of the tunnels just happen to be filled with the Spirit of History, hunched over and gnawing on some trash.

>>24712025
There is no archetypal book for that, there are many of them, the meme trilogy being the big three. Off of /lit/ people seem more willing to atleast acknowledge that the problem could be them, not the book. But like I said, Slothrop is the everyman, not Slothrop is the /lit/izen; this is a fairly common behavior these days but most people being the sort who only occasionally read if they read at all are more ready to accept that they just did not understand.

>post modern novel
>lyrics every other page
bro we get it you're clever, just tell the fucking story

>>24712074
You really hate it when a couple authors in history experiment a little, huh? Read something else, midwit scum.

>>24712074
in the fucking story people sing some fucking songs, just like they do in real fucking life

up there with lord of the rings as one of the greatest novels ever

>>24711903 (OP)
You have no idea what's going on because you're culturally illiterate. Problem no.1 above anything else, it's simply a noun-overload for dipshit zoomers who really don't know anything outside their lived time.

And the thing is, there's no particular source you can go to to fill in your knowledge gaps. Watch TCM for a year maybe? If you don't know who Carey Grant is, no quantity of IQ can help you. And that's basic, basic offhand mentions. If you don't know how wartime british officers talk, the events about which they might talk, there's really no helping you. If you're not acquainted with the time period it's just a bunch of gobbledey gook. Again, the problem here is not even necessarily intellectual.

Pynchon learned all this without an internet, by the way.

>>24712087
>And the thing is, there's no particular source you can go to to fill in your knowledge gaps.
Weisenburger's companion is good. The wiki works too.

>>24712092
There are also a lot of book on autism which can be helpful.