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Anonymous No.24715021 >>24715044 >>24715051 >>24715067 >>24715219 >>24716100 >>24716115 >>24716128 >>24716128 >>24716411 >>24716465 >>24716581 >>24716591 >>24716887 >>24717080 >>24717397 >>24717462 >>24717774 >>24718194 >>24719270 >>24719951 >>24721247 >>24723322 >>24723404 >>24723736 >>24723837 >>24725458
What are your thoughts on this short story published in the recent issue of Harper’s Magazine? It’s a short read, less than five minutes.

https://harpers.org/archive/2025/09/girl-talk-weike-wang-story-sauna/

“Girl Talk” by Weike Wang
Anonymous No.24715032
>The in-between woman is not.
unholy cringe
Anonymous No.24715035
Jesus christ its terrible
Anonymous No.24715044
>>24715021 (OP)
Buy an ad, Envie Wang
Anonymous No.24715047
>sentenced to diaspora literature.jpg
Anonymous No.24715051
>>24715021 (OP)
>She would rather look at a naked woman than a naked man.
Wow, she is literally me.
Anonymous No.24715052
What did the author want me to get from this? I honestly have no idea. Is it supposed to be a reflection on how the words and worries of modern western women are insignificant and self-sabotaging?
Anonymous No.24715065 >>24717961 >>24722050
>The in-between woman is hypervigilant when she is in a room with only white women

someone post the asian diaspora fem lit meme
Anonymous No.24715067
>>24715021 (OP)
>Weike Wang
Wanky Wang
Anonymous No.24715073
>and get this: as i describe these mundane non-events, i periodically remind the reader about my very important non-white victimhood
>that's brilliant, wookie wang. nobody's done that before
Anonymous No.24715081
>The in-between woman has a nice corporate job in a nice corporate office. She got this job through extensive education and seven rounds of interviews. But she knows that there are beautiful women out there

mogged
Anonymous No.24715101 >>24715104 >>24715111 >>24720382
>She would rather watch two women make love than two men (which she has admitted to no one, as she worries this will make her seem bigoted). Anyway, she would like to admire the younger one’s breasts at close range. Admire, not ogle.
Shit's so fucking funny.
Anonymous No.24715104 >>24716610
>>24715101
it reads like a straight A nerd who is resentful of Stacy
Anonymous No.24715106 >>24715110
let us know when she can go two pages without mentioning vaginas or feminism
Anonymous No.24715110 >>24715200
>>24715106
When that’s the subject of the story in question, how is that a fault?
Anonymous No.24715111 >>24715166
>>24715101
>M'lady I was not ogling your breasts, merely admiring them.
>M'lady why are you walking away?
Anonymous No.24715112 >>24718319 >>24718319 >>24718466 >>24722057 >>24725458
nonwhite people just shouldn't live in white countries. it's bad for everyone. even if they're too wimpy to stab you in the neck they'll just sit there and endlessly boil with resentment about not being white. this poor retard can't even say her own name out loud without piercing asspain.
Anonymous No.24715166
>>24715111
The Incel/Orientaless horseshoe is fascinating
Anonymous No.24715200
>>24715110
>why is meandering, artless, utterly stereotypical vagina-gazing story #5309 a bad thing?
truly a mystery for the ages
Anonymous No.24715214 >>24715225
I will not give Harper's a single page view. I will not support their feminist circlejerk.
Anonymous No.24715219 >>24715221 >>24715235
>>24715021 (OP)
Is this a parody lol
Anonymous No.24715221 >>24715228
>>24715219
I think it must be. Harper’s editors have always been world class.

If you think a Harper’s piece has no value, you’re missing something.
Anonymous No.24715225 >>24715707
>>24715214
who asked
Anonymous No.24715228 >>24715232 >>24715274 >>24715323 >>24715957
>>24715221
>Harper’s editors have always been world class
might I direct your attention to their September 2025 cover, also on the same page?
Anonymous No.24715232
>>24715228
What about it? I saw the cover first when my copy arrived in the mail.
Anonymous No.24715235 >>24715246
>>24715219
>a state indoctrinated NPC being self-aware
jajajajajaja haha wow
Anonymous No.24715246
>>24715235
What?
Anonymous No.24715252
don't @ me reet
Anonymous No.24715274
>>24715228
Almost 80 years later and still seething about their communist spy being exposed. God damn.
Anonymous No.24715323 >>24715329
>>24715228
Is that cover AI?
Anonymous No.24715329
>>24715323
Harper’s is part of the HAA, they’ve promised not to use AI
Anonymous No.24715707
>>24715225
You. Begging for my attention.
Anonymous No.24715957 >>24716056 >>24716125 >>24716406
>>24715228
What an ugly cover. Looks like something I could make in about 5 minutes in Photoshop. Especially the really basic, Helvetica-looking font used for the title of the main article. What's next, Comic Sans?
Anonymous No.24716056
>>24715957
You make ugly shit?
Anonymous No.24716100 >>24716812 >>24717047
>>24715021 (OP)
>story
It was unremarkable. Suited for Harper's -- realist, liberal values, liberal guilt, socially conscious but inert. Didn't care for the writer tying the story's themes to a brick and throwing them at my head over and over.
>Weike Wang
Would give her a white baby.
Anonymous No.24716115 >>24716222
>>24715021 (OP)
tl;dr: Author seethes about being Asian and wishes she could "have it easy" like the "beautiful" white women she cares so much about.
Anonymous No.24716125
>>24715957
Completely agree. Looks like the covers my boss makes at the shitty small publisher I work at. Just a bunch of Adobe stock photos thrown together according to a gimmicky concept. Uses the same ubiquitous sans serif too.
Anonymous No.24716128
>>24715021 (OP)
>>24715021 (OP)
this is just ANOTHER case of diaspora second/third generation falling into that bizarre race complex they always get
Anonymous No.24716222
>>24716115
So much "asian woman diaspora literature" boils down to this
>I'm asian and I love white boys
>but I shouldn't because they're racist
>but it's racister they don't love me back
>white boys just want Stacy
>I hate Stacy because I can't be Stacy
Can they get a new topic already?
Anonymous No.24716406
>>24715957
That looks nothing like helvetica
Anonymous No.24716411 >>24716427 >>24716757 >>24725488
>>24715021 (OP)
It's not that bad. Although you can be a white man and feel this, to be treated like a "more important person's" passive audience/agentless co-conspirator. It's a strange thing to have to endure all the time and if you think a nonwhite person can live any part of their life and not have to experience this sort of shit you're insane.

And if you write about it, then vapid, bored chuds lose their fucking minds on the internet and project their obsession with race onto you.

And if you think you can go a day or even a single hour without the influence of a vagina, even a completely hypothetical vagina, on your thoughts and actions, and this woman can't, then you are deprived of any shred of self awareness.

Most women who admitted to me they watch porn stick to lesbian porn. Sex with men for women I believe is completely about tropes, and not about the aesthetics of the male body. The male body is not beautiful.

It's a pretty aware and honest account of female subjectivity

I think her use of raison d'etre was a bit awkward and misapplied. Should have just said reason. raison d'etre is more like, an inextricable part of your desire. The in-between woman's raisin d'etre is buying everything she wants, and the corporate job is a means to that, the job doesn't have a reason for being that sort of doesn't make sense.

This isn't puke-inducing self aggrandizing feminism, it's actually pretty lucid.
Anonymous No.24716427 >>24716885
>>24716411
its ideas and themes are lucid, which is the story's entire problem -- everything it says is very on the nose, very on the surface, very "HERE IS THE POINT HERE IS THE THEME HERE IS WHAT I AM SAYING LOOK AT ME PROBLEMATIZING CONTEMPORARY WHITE FEMINISM." just boring and predictable art that's only transgressive to /pol/tards because it's about sexism/racism
Anonymous No.24716465 >>24717663 >>24717683
>>24715021 (OP)
Why does she seem to resent her husband because she's self-sufficient? It's a weird aside from what seems to be the broader point of being put upon and feeling like she has to agree with what some old broad in a sauna has to say
Anonymous No.24716581
>>24715021 (OP)
I took a look, turned 360 and walked directly to the next article. Nini's story was pretty good
Anonymous No.24716591 >>24716685 >>24720369
>>24715021 (OP)
Embarrassing. Again, ethnicellas are nothing compared to today's vanguard of girl-writers of Ivdæo-Catholick or Evropean stock; e.g. Honor Levy, Sophie Kemp, or picrel.
Anonymous No.24716610 >>24717371 >>24718759
>>24715104
I mean, yeah. That's the point of the story. It's about what it feels like to experience racial resentment, know you're experiencing racial resentment, know you shouldn't feel it, and still feel resentment anyway
Anonymous No.24716685 >>24716747 >>24718473
>>24716591
picrel IS honor levy
Anonymous No.24716728 >>24716744
It was honestly too dull for me to have any type of strong reaction.
Anonymous No.24716744
>>24716728
You don’t feel insulted by having your time wasted?
Anonymous No.24716747
>>24716685
My mistake, Ms Levi
Anonymous No.24716757 >>24718331
>>24716411
>It's a strange thing to have to endure all the time and if you think a nonwhite person can live any part of their life and not have to experience this sort of shit you're insane.
it's actually just a self-inflicted neurosis particular to america. i know several non-whites living in an extremely white country, way more "outnumbered" than they would be in the us, and they find these american racial narratives borderline incomprehensible. you have to be trained in this insanity from an early age.
Anonymous No.24716812 >>24716860 >>24723078
>>24716100
She looks like the type of person who is outwardly the bubbly college student liberal type but will let you do incredibly degrading things to her in the bedroom and enjoy every minute of it.
Anonymous No.24716857 >>24719051 >>24721772
We will never really know whether the problem with women is that they are biologically and neurologically inferior to men, because the primary problem is that they have no selection pressures, no social mechanisms that progressively sift the gold from the turds. Women like this whinging narcissist gook should never be published, she should have been filtered out by some kind of filter years ago and progressively dissuaded from speaking until she betters herself, until she becomes less retarded. Instead she's confidently publishing "Like: Is this good feminism or bad feminism? Should I have 5 Tinder hookups or only 4?" and other women are enabling her.

Women routinely get away with expressing things the male equivalent of which would get you beaten to death by your fellow men. Women get away with saying, loudly in public and professional spaces, the female equivalent of a man saying "My mom says I'm the coolest kid here, so you should all listen to me!" If a man said the latter, all his male friends would ritually carve him into pieces and mail the parts of his body to the four corners of the empire. But if a woman says "Um, a WOMAN is talking, so listen up! I have a Master's degree you know!" other women will enable it even though it's 3-4x as cringe as the "my mom says I'm cool" thing.

Minorities are similar. That's why black women are capable of truly insane levels of cringe. "Honey, just EXISTING as a black woman every day makes me a superhero!" There isn't even a male equivalent for that. The male equivalent of saying that would be being the "peenus weanus" guy in real life.
Anonymous No.24716860 >>24717047
>>24716812
Many, many, many such cases. It is a truth universally acknowledged that the more feminist liberal in the streets the more perverted in the sheets
Anonymous No.24716885 >>24717718
>>24716427
> transgressive
This one always confounds me because the set that are raving about being “transgressive” choose the same hivemind topics over and over and say the same shit again and again. It’s piss easy to actually transgress their feelings by typing up an average /pol/ post naming the jew, trannies, homos being pedos and so on. It’s wrongthink and you’re an unperson that should be killed and nothing like it can be printed because the words are not safe for public viewing.

Same thing in the art world trying to hype up taping a banana to a wall instead of posting hi res kitty crush porn. Oh you can’t do that because it offends? It transgresses norms? So everything you say you want is just toilet paper thin word vomit hiding an immense dull conformity?
Anonymous No.24716887 >>24716893
>>24715021 (OP)
Whitewashed Asian feminists are the worst creatures on Earth
Anonymous No.24716893 >>24718225
>>24716887
>he's never had a whitewashed asian feminist who was part of her college's asian women's club beg him to call her a chink while fucking
Anonymous No.24716909
is she like the diaspora Juanita who doesnt speak a lick of Spanish outside of a few words but fights for la raza?
Anonymous No.24717047
>>24716860
>>24716100
hot, would
Anonymous No.24717080
>>24715021 (OP)
>by weinke wang
they don't name themselves ling ling and ding ding anymore, they've transcended to dick dick
Anonymous No.24717371 >>24717725
>>24716610
We already had this discussion with the asian/happa girls pouring out their grief on teh comment section of that japanese hapa bitch's music video. Anybody remember her name?
Anonymous No.24717397 >>24717682 >>24720398
>>24715021 (OP)
If you guys enjoy this, you have to read this other one (by another Asian women) where she sacrifices herself for the happiness of the white folk. It's actually really good.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/16/style/modern-love-divorce-is-a-gift.html

use archive.is if you don't have nyt account

https://archive.is/mxgXr
Anonymous No.24717462 >>24717629
>>24715021 (OP)
>"Oy"
Is oy being used in American ENglish now?
Anonymous No.24717629 >>24717647
>>24717462
The character is obviously met to be a Jewess, to add some Intersectionality to the work.
Anonymous No.24717647 >>24717668
>>24717629
shouldn't it be oy vey then?
Anonymous No.24717663
>>24716465
Because he isn’t the six foot seven billionaire from her dreams who spoils her with gifts even though he knows she ain’t need no man
Anonymous No.24717668
>>24717647
Oy vey is reserved for situations of shock and despair, oy is perfectly fine as an attention requester.
Anonymous No.24717682 >>24717689 >>24719293
>>24717397
>They made a sauce with bile

What the fuck? Bile? The most disgusting fluid in the body? A sauce? The fuck?
Anonymous No.24717683 >>24719448
>>24716465
She is a Harvard grad with three degrees, including a PhD. It is not right that those white people are looking down on her just for being Chinese.
Anonymous No.24717689 >>24717691
>>24717682
>The most disgusting fluid in the body?
That's what they think about milk. Everything is topsy turvy over there. I thought you knew.
Anonymous No.24717691 >>24717694
>>24717689
They don’t breastfed babies?
Anonymous No.24717694 >>24717698
>>24717691
They do. And when they get a little bigger they chew food and regurgitate it for them, like penguins do.
Anonymous No.24717698
>>24717694
Now you’re fucking with me
Anonymous No.24717718 >>24717721 >>24717801
>>24716885
Rightoid transgression is shouting JOO TRANNY JOO TRANNY over and over until your voice gives out, leftoid transgression is snarking um ackshually sweetie that's racist, it's all so tiresome and boring
Anonymous No.24717721
>>24717718
What about updist and downian transgressions?
Anonymous No.24717725 >>24717726
>>24717371
I don't know what discussion you're referencing but from your description is it Mitski's "Best American Girl"?
Anonymous No.24717726 >>24717759 >>24718174
>>24717725
Bingo
Anonymous No.24717759 >>24717773
>>24717726
Got an archive link to that discussion? I'd be curious to see what it was like
Anonymous No.24717773 >>24724715 >>24724879
>>24717759
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/23544344
Anonymous No.24717774
>>24715021 (OP)
Hehehe. Wang.
Anonymous No.24717801
>>24717718
There’s a state level opposition and embrace of those respectively, trying to equivocate until it’s two sides of a coin doesn’t work. One transgresses societal norms the other does not. Frankly “the right” is an illusion as well, especially for the US where the right wing is even more rabidly pro-Israel and pro-Jew.
You also managed to avoid the central point: it’s easy to find out what is actually transgressive art. The people who claim to be seeking it out are clearly not. “Transgressive” in practice means safely ensconced in a progressive worldview and challenges nothing whatsoever.
Anonymous No.24717961
>>24715065
Anonymous No.24718174
>>24717726
Don't hate on Mitski; that song is a banger.
Anonymous No.24718194
>>24715021 (OP)
I wonder if those people will ever realize their attempts at educating people on racism never work because the people reading that crap seriously are the ones who already suffer from white guilt and not actual unironic racists.
Anonymous No.24718225 >>24718617
>>24716893
Fucking gross. I would never call my 100% Nippon blooded gamer girlfriend a chink because I love her.
Anonymous No.24718264 >>24718269 >>24718319 >>24718397 >>24718850 >>24718859 >>24720398
>The in-between woman is hypervigilant when she is in a room with only white women
"WHITE WOMEN could be here" she thought, "I've never been in this sauna before. There could be WHITE WOMEN anywhere." The hot air felt good against her bare chest. "I HATE WHITE WOMEN" she thought. Images of supple white girl breasts reverberated throughout her brain, making her aroused even as the $20 Starbucks mocha latte coursed through her veins and washed away her (merited) fear of white women. "With dark skin, you can complain about anything you want" she said to herself, out loud.
Anonymous No.24718269
>>24718264
keeeeeeeeeeeeek
Anonymous No.24718319 >>24725807
>>24715112
>>24715112
agreed. first gen immigrants can easily resist this since they have a clear financial need while also retaining the cultural density necessary to keeping them rooted. they have a real home and not a vision of home that has to be consistently recreated to support the uprootedness of deracinated next gens. asians can't be white no matter how many seasons of Friends they rewatch. they'll always be second class citizens and no amount of feminist literature nor whitey acceptance will make up for the lack of primary creative power. they can't even invent their own narratives without writing themselves as the weaker person. at least negroes are the heroes of their own story when they're not cashing in as victims.

because why is it that even the most powerful of abstractions, that is, money, which she has in good supply, still can't make up for a lack, a symbolic valuation of recognition? she can afford what she wants materially. she's a homeowner without a home. immigrants would be happier if they treated america as a business rather than a theater for symbolic power struggles, precisely because they don't get the chance to take off their costumes and bring any cathartic narrative power into the 'real' world they inhabit the way an ancient greek or a modern japanese would. it always just boils down to faux inclusivity which has none of the exclusivity that real inclusivity (culture) has.
>>24718264
kek'd
Anonymous No.24718331 >>24718394 >>24718478
>>24716757
>Particular to America
Yes
>Self-inflicted
No

That you even offer these "non-white" opinions in anecdote as if they speak for all nonwhites is actually so case in point. What a bizarre thing to do
Anonymous No.24718394 >>24718844
>>24718331
what's bizarre is how you chose to misread the post. they don't "speak for all nonwhites," they demonstrate that you can live as a nonwhite among whites and not develop this kind of thinking. and yes, it's always self-inflicted, together with related neuroses like inceldom etc. you put energy into maintaining it every day because you ultimately like living like that.
Anonymous No.24718397
>>24718264
lmao
Anonymous No.24718466 >>24718497 >>24718620
>>24715112
But anon, who will pick up fruit or repair homes in america or keep europe multicultural and diverse?
Anonymous No.24718473
>>24716685
Um, but Levy was *not* “born into the tradition” but precisely “converted to Catholicism”. Seems like a dig if anything.
Anonymous No.24718478
>>24718331
He's right.
A black person born in France considers itself French, but a black person born in America is african-American. It's the same with Asians, Latinxs, etc.
They aren't plain Americans, they are prefix-Americans and that creates a divide between each other that is fueled further with media and experts promoting White guilt.
Anonymous No.24718497
>>24718466
>who will pick up fruit
robots
>repair homes in america
russian survivors of the nuclear obliteration of their state
>keep europe multicultural and diverse
the walls of large buildings will be converted into giant screens permanently showing tiktoks of indians drinking cow piss etc, so that europeans can contemplate the fate they've narrowly avoided
Anonymous No.24718617
>>24718225
Of course you wouldn’t call her a chink, you’d call her Jap or Jape
Anonymous No.24718620 >>24718745
>>24718466
Who do you think did these jobs before the browns did?
Anonymous No.24718745 >>24719225
>>24718620
The slaves? Who were brown? And the Chinamen?
Anonymous No.24718759 >>24718803 >>24718832
>>24716610
>It's about what it feels like to experience racial resentment, know you're experiencing racial resentment, know you shouldn't feel it, and still feel resentment anyway
zzz
Anonymous No.24718803 >>24718809 >>24718867
>>24718759
>this asian woman's story is about what it's like to experience racial resentment, know you're experiencing racial resentment, know you shouldn't feel it, and still feel resentment anyway
>boring! boriiiiiiiiiiiiing!
>this white man's story is about what it's like to experience gender resentment, know you're experiencing gender resentment, know you shouldn't feel it, and still feel resentment anyway
>Holy Fucking Based...
Anonymous No.24718809
>>24718803
yeah, and?
Anonymous No.24718827 >>24719145
I can't get over the fact that half of Asian-Americans are super PC and do this whiney "we are victims too" intersectional routine, while the other half are like super racist Trump supporters.
Anonymous No.24718832
>>24718759
To be fair ever since I saw Pinocchio as a little kid, that scene where Gepetto is investigating his workshop with the little candle and nightgown and the cap has been ingrained into my mind
Anonymous No.24718844 >>24718943
>>24718394
>they demonstrate that you can live as a nonwhite among whites

>all other nonwhite people should be able to emulate these nonwhite people qua nonwhite people

so we infer something universal about nonwhite people from the speech of these particular nonwhite people?

I'm reading the implicit assumption behind the literal words typed which is that these nonwhites speak for all nonwhites, through some rando YTs anonymous post which is probably 100% made up.

You think I misread the post? Do you think syntactic and semantic interpretation is where language begins and ends? What are you some kind of illiterate nigger?
Anonymous No.24718850
>>24718264
das good shit
Anonymous No.24718859
>>24718264
DANGEROUSLY based
Anonymous No.24718863
…apropos of nothing
Anonymous No.24718867 >>24718870
>>24718803
where are you reading male stories like that? some tranny subreddit?
Anonymous No.24718870 >>24718962 >>24719268
>>24718867
Anonymous No.24718943
>>24718844
lmao talking to you is a riot. 2 out of 2 posts you read what i wrote, ignored it, constructed a fake position that you could get niggerly indignant about, got indignant about it.

if you find one (1) nigger who doesn't play basketball this is in fact sufficient to prove the claim that not all niggers play basketball. it's basic logic. this does not carry any "implicit assumption" that i think this one nigger "speaks for all of them." what would that even mean? who cares?

the best part is of course you're exemplifying the neurosis i'm talking about, actively putting in effort into editing the messages coming your way into WHITEY BE OPPRESSIN ME AGAIN. because you like it. you like playing basketball.
Anonymous No.24718962 >>24719276
>>24718870
he was just a huge pussy hound sex addict from what i remember. he didn't seem to resent women the way nonwhites resent whites. that would be more of an incel thing, but they seem to communicate it through social media, not fictional stories.
Anonymous No.24719051 >>24721772 >>24725654
>>24716857
>Minorities are similar. That's why black women are capable of truly insane levels of cringe. "Honey, just EXISTING as a black woman every day makes me a superhero!" There isn't even a male equivalent for that. The male equivalent of saying that would be being the "peenus weanus" guy in real life.
The humor of the "peanus weenus" post comes from its purity. It is the kind of humor you can expect from a small child around the age of six. You can just imagine the little boy carefully typing down the post, giggling like a beautiful cherub.For him he invented what is basically the epitome of comedy. He is a glorious angel bringing the gift of laughter to all his 4chan friends.
He has something in his hand, while he types. What could it be?
Why, it is his peanus weenus, of course. He giggles at the thought of it.
It is his weeenus peanus. His laughter continues, getting louder.
The object in his hand is his peanus weenus. His laughter has now awakened his grumpy mother.
This is the fifth time this month this has happened and she has had enough. She loudly slammed her son's door open, sharp knife in hand. She's going to cut it off.
"No, not my peanus weenus!" the boy pleaded. His mother only grinned sadistically.
"Please to not cut off my weeenus peanus!" She pushed the sharp metal to her son's boy flesh.
No longer attached was the boy's peanus weenus. It was his mother's now.
Anonymous No.24719145
>>24718827
>while the other half are like super racist Trump supporters
Where do you get this info?
Anonymous No.24719225
>>24718745
You think the slaves were picking fruit and building houses?
Anonymous No.24719268 >>24719276
>>24718870
>tranny thinks portnoy's complaint is about gender resentment

dilate
Anonymous No.24719270 >>24719278 >>24719395
>>24715021 (OP)
haven't read it yet but going to make some guesses just from the picrel, title, and author name
>Author stand-in character (asian woman)
>entire story is a single conversation with white women
>"are they racist? am I being racist for thinking they're racist? no they're racist"
>one of them is going to be in a wheelchair or something to Complicate The Narrative
>"I hate white women! I want to fuck white women! I want to be a white woman! I hate white women!"
>"how can Chad love me if he's white and I'm Asian"
>story ends with a white woman saying something that COULD be racist or COULD be innocuous and the Asian self-insert character will be vexed by this
Anonymous No.24719276
>>24718962
How did you not feel the resentment radiating off the pages? He hates women but he loves fucking them and knows he shouldn't hate them, this tension is what drives the novel!
>>24719268
>oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're a TRANNY
Obsessed
Anonymous No.24719278 >>24719395 >>24720398
>>24719270
Holy shit, not every one is right but a good amount of these are surprisingly dead-on or close to dead-on.
People haven’t noticed yet though that the main character is racially ambiguous, just said to be non-white, the little sketch the Harper’s illustrator drew actually suggests her to be brown. So not necessarily East Asian. But still, otherwise, almost spot-on.
Anonymous No.24719293
>>24717682
Bile is good in the right dishes (actually it's like just one dish where it's used). Sauce form is just leaving it up to the individual diner how much bile they want.
Anonymous No.24719395 >>24719829
>>24719270
>>24719278
Damn, I was actually kinda close. She went Jewish instead of wheelchair though. I thought her Chad would feature more prominently, maybe as a character actually in the scene or something. The ambiguous racism and racial/sexual envy/hatred was right on the money though. Diaspora literature from Asian-American women is 90% all the same thing
Anonymous No.24719448 >>24721792 >>24722552
>>24717683
I thought it was for some sort of meme degree but it was for chemistry and before affirmative action was removed. It makes me think she actually believes what she writes or is taking the piss while making money.
Anonymous No.24719829
>>24719395
It's because they crave the white chad's cock but only ever get the beta onions boy's. Oy vey. The same dynamic has existed for centuries between Jews and goyim.
Anonymous No.24719951 >>24719957 >>24720339
>>24715021 (OP)
>vegie tales for the rational materialist faux-lesbian
I'm so sick of reading lefty morality play /lit/. Especially because I am absolutely positive she has a white French or German bf.
Anonymous No.24719957 >>24720339 >>24721792
>>24719951
>https://breadbeforerice.blogspot.com/2018/07/do-asian-american-women-have-more.html
lmao that didn't take long kekaroo.
Anonymous No.24720339
>>24719951
>>24719957
Oxford remains supreme
Anonymous No.24720369
>>24716591
lmao, you can feel the drugpsychosis of the author seeping through. Reads like a burroughs whos been hanging around the internet too much, but without the obscenity and edge
Anonymous No.24720382
>When the older woman stops pacing, the in-between woman is relieved. To pace for so long in a sauna is dangerous, and were the older woman to faint, the in-between woman would have to face this moral test—to leave the sauna or to call for help—a test she would not pass, for she is no savior.
What is it with these stories that makes me hate them? Like really, calling 911 is too much of an ask? You would rather let a woman faint in the middle of a sanua then go and spend the littlest of efforts to risk your life? Instead, you rather ogle (oh sorry, "admire") the onlyfan slut's ass?
But I'm sure the older woman 100% deserves it you know. She was racist because quotes the in-between women felt she was racist. I cannot show her racism, at most, at fucking most, she bitches about the only fan slut's ass and maybe implies the in-between women is ugly "“And just because your hoo-ha is waxed doesn’t mean you’re better than us. This is a public place, not a brothel. Oy.”"
Is this worth death? Oh yea I can see that.
She also committed the worst sin: apologizing for her minor boomer rant, and trying to make small talk! What a racist pig!

What even is the fucking message to this story? I genuinely cannot understand. Where's the punchline? That the in-between woman is a cunt whose so deep into her own head, while the only fan slut/boomer is making small talk/getting along?
>>24715101
You gotta remember that the husband is just decoration in the in-between bitch's life.
>The in-between woman’s current man (husband) doesn’t buy her everything she wants, because she buys herself everything she wants. That she can give herself the world is the raison d’être for the nice corporate job. But then is the in-between woman her own man? And if so, what’s left for her real man to do?
I'm real sure wives appreciate her observation, that her husband is just a fucking ATM machine.
Anonymous No.24720398 >>24721079
>>24717397
This story is better 100%. At least there's a point. I am not sure what's the point: I don't see the throughline between "we love each other" to "I'm not good enough for him, divorce me so you can be with your hot European girl". She even dropped breadcrumbs about how she wants him to bone someone else.
Is this a real womanly emotion? To leave a guy who loves you because you aren't good enough for him, with zero evidence to that.
>>24718264
>(merited)
Oh my god my sides (obliques).
>>24719278
>People haven’t noticed yet though that the main character is racially ambiguous, just said to be non-white, the little sketch the Harper’s illustrator drew actually suggests her to be brown. So not necessarily East Asian. But still, otherwise, almost spot-on.
I did notice. In fact, a big part was she was too much of an autistic to tell her brown name.
Anonymous No.24720913 >>24721792
as an asian i want to chime in that when it comes to asian diaspora, publishers seem to heavily favor women married to white men. it's probably because the types among diaspora that choose to become writers have completely assimilated into western (liberal) culture with a mostly white social circle.
Anonymous No.24721079
>>24720398
>she was too much of an autistic to tell her brown name.
She doesn't give her protagonists names in any of her stories, according to something I read (wikipedia?).
Anonymous No.24721178
>The old woman was white
>Revealed to be Jewish

Okay, which is she? White or Jewish?
Anonymous No.24721200 >>24721792
The identity politics of the last decade failed to produce social change, or even a model thereof. Excuse-solution (and natural conclusion to the movement): marginalized people are revolutionary simply for existing. Live your truth. Self care. Slay, queen.
Of course this is not durable. But literature now moves slowly. Expect another decade at least of these stories.
Anonymous No.24721247
>>24715021 (OP)
Having this much of your mental HDD dedicated to anti-wrongthink AV software is indistinguishable (psychologically) from being a fundamentalist Christian or Muslim.
>is it haram to eat this? :: was this product ethically sourced?
>is it a sin to think that about this person? :: am I being racist for thinking that?
>what would Jesus do :: what does a good feminist do in this situation
It's unsettling to think that this is what's going on behind the eyes of a lot of the people I speak to daily. I'm not really speaking to the person, but some socially implanted bicameral God voice shouting at them internally.
Anonymous No.24721772
>>24716857
>>24719051
KEEEEEEK
Anonymous No.24721792 >>24721896
>>24721200
This seems right to me but I think a decade is too long. It's already on its way out. 10 years is too slow. Another five or so and anyone with taste will roll their eyes at this kind of stuff. We're early but not that early.
>>24720913
This also feels correct to me, asiananon. Assimilation also frequently brings class elevation. Assimilated immigrant parents can give their children enough leisure to pick up writing, study to get into good schools, etc. American literary culture's shockingly insular.
>>24719957
Much to consider! Is that her husband? Blogpost doesn't make it clear. Her "reflective apology" post is quite funny as well
>https://breadbeforerice.blogspot.com/2018/07/i-disagreed-with-my-previous-post-even.html
Asian women have a whole complex around white men. Asian men have a complex about them having a complex. It seems like an exhausting mess.
>>24719448
Of course she believes what she writes lmao. I'd breed her.
Anonymous No.24721896
>>24721792
>I'd breed her.
She's probably like 50 years old, dude. She carefully hides her age from her wikipedia.
Anonymous No.24722050 >>24722861
>>24715065
>I'm hypervigilant when around random inner city blacks
>Racist!
>Coward!
>You're a pussy! Hahaha!
Why are these people like this.
Anonymous No.24722057
>>24715112
As she was worrying about White people, a black man came out of nowhere and punched her in the side of the head.
Anonymous No.24722552 >>24723289
>>24719448
As I reread it, I have to believe this is parody. It's too on the nose, too stupid, too overt.
This story is not about diaspora, not really. This story is satire against people who are too up in their own ass
>hag: nag nag nag all the time
>younger: she chases relationship/social media as empowerment, but as in-between sea monkey says, " she chooses to have an affair/to be the affair as a way to reclaim her agency through desirability, is this empowerment or the continued, though self-aware, propagation of tropes"?
>in-between bitch
She gets a section because she's the star of the show. She acts like this empowering icon yet never says a nice thing to anyone. Not her husband, not the old or young lady. Instead, she escapes into her religion of feminism, to try and justify her extremely cruel comments. The bomb drop was the pacing-faint scene: no good human would let a person faint in the sauna, and not do something to help. All you have to do is call 911/alert staff. If you make a single excuse, like "oh she was being rude" to a stranger who we have seen did nothing even evil, at most she's obvious, then you are a cruel human being. If the hag's a Jew, and they're in the sauna, and there was a part about fearing she would collapse due to the heat, I wonder if that was a holocaust reference?
This story is not about feminism. It isn't. Men aren't even in the story, they are just referenced, like shadows or dreams. This story isn't about racism: we do not see a single nigger/person of color or even chink get treated differently/picked on for being non-white.
This story clicks when you reread this section and see the deeper implication of in-between bitch's offense. She was mad at surface level at being included in the we camp, because it implies that she's ugly like the hag. But there's a deeper part to it: why is it that quote is followed by paragraph? Especially the last bit, about becoming blood sisters?
The reason is the in-between cunt is offended not because she thinks the old woman is calling her ugly, it is because she doesn't WANT to be friends with the hag but can't bring herself to admit it. She wants to play and see politics everywhere to not work on herself, so when someone tries to make the slightest connection to her she puts up barriers. She puts it because she is terrified at joining society that does not have her feminist religion shit. She has to retract from "she's a cunt/ignoring me because racism/feminism" to "I am an autistic".
Once you realize the true intent, the story clicks. Why in-between cunt couldn't give her real name, that "what's real feminism" part, why she "admires" boobs and not "ogles" them, why the "You’re a good person. Thanks.” ending is a punchline. Because she and everyone is up in their own ass so deep, and in-between chink is what happens when you go pass nuclear.
Anonymous No.24722861
>>24722050
low iq operating system from American soi education
Anonymous No.24723078
>>24716812
Continue...
Anonymous No.24723289
>>24722552
It's remarkable that you've identified all the internal tensions that give the story its propulsive force but because they're all #WOKE you're sperging out
Anonymous No.24723322 >>24723475 >>24725645
>>24715021 (OP)
While she keeps othering herself with the not white stuff, this seems to be more a general dissatisfaction with feminism. You have the older woman represents second wave feminism. She marched for things she never really wanted for herself, but felt should exist. The narrator is probably a third or fourth wave feminist but is aware that she did everything she was supposed to do as a good feminist but is unsatisfied and has left her life a bit unbalanced. She remarks about how she has a good job and can buy herself all the things that a man should buy her, but that it doesn't leave room for her husband to buy her anything. The young woman isn't a feminist and is portrayed as a bit dumb, but seems to represent what the author thinks all the ever increasing waves of feminist has created. She isn't a thinking being, she is a product that is consumed. Even the narrator wants to consume her/watch her be consumed. All this is wrapped in the idea that despite all the ideology and what not, the older woman is frustrated with her age and the feeling that she is no longer desired, the middle woman realizes she is on the edge of being the older woman, and the young woman represents the blazing youth they both want. If anything this is an anti-feminist short story.
Anonymous No.24723404 >>24723705 >>24725383
>>24715021 (OP)
Legit crazy to think that Wang never would've became a writer if she looked like this. But she's Asian and insecure about it, so she became a writer.
Anonymous No.24723475
>>24723322
Hey, we don't appreciate insightful discourse around here. This is /lit/.
Anonymous No.24723705
>>24723404
hnnnnng
Anonymous No.24723727
This will never be Cat Person
Anonymous No.24723736
>>24715021 (OP)

I had ChatGPT do an unbiased review. My own work tends to land around an 8.5 so it’s strange to see this result.
Anonymous No.24723815
i finally read this shit. it started off with some potential but then didn't really go anywhere. at least it was short, but it was still too long. should have been a two or three paragraph shitpost.
Anonymous No.24723837
>>24715021 (OP)
i sampled another short story and the guy kept referencing various literary works like look at me i'm so smart i read classics teehee i stopped after a couple paragraphs. op's story is ass, but at least it doesn't name drop a bunch of feminist icons or any other kind of theory shit. after two stinkers, my conclusion is harper's kinda blows.
Anonymous No.24724715 >>24725246
>>24717773
Kek. I'm a halfie, and I couldn't give less of a shit. Granted, I'm not American, but still, race has almost nothing to do with my identity.
Anonymous No.24724879
>>24717773
lmao like 80% of this thread is one asiatic (?) living in europe having a mental breakdown calling everyone a fed and demanding people post their top 10 movie lists
Anonymous No.24725246 >>24725392
>>24724715
>has almost nothing to do with my identity.
Consciously, maybe not. But subconsciously is another matter.
Anonymous No.24725383
>>24723404
All this image needs is Rodrigo running into the arms of a white Chad while a nerdy Asian woman holding groceries from H-Mart seethes in the background and you have the entirety of Asian female diaspora literature.
Anonymous No.24725392
>>24725246
Does race genuinely change your psychology subsconciously even if you grew as of X culture?
Anonymous No.24725458
>>24715021 (OP)
You just know her parents are loaded

>>24715112
>America
>white
Anonymous No.24725488 >>24725845
>>24716411
>Most women who admitted to me they watch porn stick to lesbian porn

I don't think it's an aesthetics thing. It's could be as simple as not wanting to give power to a strange man before he has put in any effort (he has to earn her, or whatever). It's an insecurity but also in their nature.

I've also met a woman who said she watches (male) gay porn because she liked the grunting sounds but she was very outgoing and secure in herself.
Anonymous No.24725645
>>24723322
You’re reading too much into it. If anyone is being criticized it’s the boomer hag for her privilege. She’s offended about an intentionally vapid recommendation for smoothies. It’s relatively agnostic, if not antifem for perpetuating the dumb flippant hot girl v. sour walled hag tropes.
Anonymous No.24725654
>>24719051
This is one of my favorite unhinged posts of all time
Anonymous No.24725807
>>24718319
>precisely because they don't get the chance to take off their costumes and bring any cathartic narrative power into the 'real' world they inhabit the way an ancient greek or a modern japanese would
What do you mean by this?
Anonymous No.24725845 >>24726113
>>24725488
Women are plenty happy to goon to porn, porn just typically has unappealing guys. James Dean for example was very popular with women for a while there. Looked like a normal good looking dude with natural charisma instead of some awkward butter face with a retard dick or an ex con powerlifter. They don’t make porn for women in the same way they don’t make romantasy for men.
Anonymous No.24726113
>>24725845
For simliar reasons I always found it hard to get into straight porn. 90% of the women in porn just aren't my type. THough it's possible that I am a little gay.