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Anonymous No.24716404 [Report] >>24716451 >>24716470 >>24716875 >>24717750 >>24725613 >>24728475 >>24728564
This book is dogshit. Complaining about the mediocrity of the art establishment is something; but if you do, don't be even more mediocre than them. Just name drops imageboard and memes for nothing, the style is annoying. Could've been worse, it's just a bit more mediocre than the lib art culture it makes fun of throughout the whole book
Anonymous No.24716451 [Report] >>24716577
>>24716404 (OP)
So there are two 2025 novels called Femoid? Cute.
Anonymous No.24716470 [Report] >>24716483
>>24716404 (OP)
Post tits or gtfo
Anonymous No.24716483 [Report] >>24716488
>>24716470
Just a hairy chest there anon
Anonymous No.24716488 [Report]
>>24716483
Post tits with a timestamp or gtfo
Anonymous No.24716577 [Report] >>24716579
>>24716451
It's the same one. It was first released under a pseudonym and then withdrawn when the publisher found out it was actually written by a Woman of Color.
Anonymous No.24716579 [Report]
>>24716577
… *wasN'T actually written…
Anonymous No.24716875 [Report] >>24716882 >>24716946 >>24717153 >>24717605 >>24717708 >>24718132 >>24718853 >>24726872 >>24734088
>>24716404 (OP)
I see I've been summoned. To be fair, it was my first novel, and I bit off quite a bit with the project by making it poly-stylistic and such. Having, for example, Savoy's personal writing style (in the form of texts, poetry, etc.) grow over the course of the novel was one thing, but then I also had to juggle seven or eight other contingents within the narrative at the same time. Maybe the constant self-revisionary/ADHD style is a bit much in spots, but I went with it in the spirit of accuracy, because the style of person it was based on very much sounds like Savoy and operates in a similar way. I'll stand by it. (It's unfortunate the authors who endorsed "Femoid" before have backed out because of the controversy, though.)
>This book is dogshit
"Dogshit" might be a bit heavy-handed, but then again, the subtlety of the discourse on /lit/ is a far cry from what it used to be back in 2014 and such, when I started coming on here. For my latest novel, I went with a much sparer style, with a somewhat similar lead, to remove the chaff and focus more on plot (pic rel). Maybe give that a shot. You can find it on the McBussy website. It's endorsed by Woolston. You might like it more. All the same, as trash as contemporary lit is a lot of the time, it's odd that anons on here don't support other anons trying to advance their writing careers. It's a shame, really. I'd like to see more of us succeed. Thanks for reading, m8.
Anonymous No.24716882 [Report]
>>24716875
>I've been summoned
Nice larp, timestamp + face faggot
>I'm not gonna because I have nothing to prove to you
Yeah larping faggot just like I thought
Anonymous No.24716946 [Report] >>24717687 >>24718917
>>24716875
>endorsed by Woolston
lol I don't think anyone here has read him or knows of him outside of his shilling or lo-fi prose saga

Post PDFs of both if you genuinely want anons to read them. And let me add that doing the identity rugpull with a full novel was a really dumb idea; a rec from Gabriel Smith made me interested, but your whole stunt brings all prior interest in your work into question; i.e. what's that endorsement mean if your whole point with the false identity was to say people would endorse trash if it was by a broke black queer (even if I don't necessarily think this will apply to Gabriel Smith).

You really fucked yourself by mixing serious work into that, and I don't think getting accepted into obviously bottom-tier magazines for idpol is at all notable; if you got into a big mag with nonsense poems it'd be an entirely different story, but there are a million little magazines who will publish trash of any sort.

Now look at who your publisher is, and how the angle for him is likely foremost to piggyback on your notoriety; i.e. he took your book because he would take anything so long as it fit his image, same as any of the dogshit online mags you duped.

Again, just post the PDFs. Or EPUBs, if you wanna be nice.
Anonymous No.24717045 [Report]
Buy an ad faggot
Anonymous No.24717153 [Report] >>24717166 >>24717687
>>24716875
I really didn't think you'd read my comment, and that fast. I'm terribly ashamed and apologize profusely.

The footnotes were cool. Trying to innovate on each chapter, adding chats, having to manage different characters through their online writing styles is cool. I particularly liked the CC threads, reminds me of myself anonymously posting about a relationship on a forum. I think I spoke a bit hastily about your novel anyway, because I thought my comment would be like a stone tossed in the ocean. Will delete it.
I'll definitely check out your other novel.
Anonymous No.24717166 [Report]
>>24717153
>This book is dogshit.
>I'm terribly ashamed and apologize profusely.
You're a faggot, anon.
Anonymous No.24717605 [Report] >>24717687
>>24716875
>McBussy
I love this nigga like you wouldn't believe
Anonymous No.24717687 [Report] >>24717782
>>24716946
>Post PDFs
I'd post PDFs, 'cause I don't particularly care about money/royalties, but I'd have to run that by a few people first.
>You really fucked yourself by mixing serious work into that
It had to go the way it had to go. I could have very easily held onto the Marcie pen name and ridden that one for a while, but I mostly just wanted to move past that phase of my life. Didn't want to carry forward the personal connections that came with that pen name, in particular. Pen names can be used for all sorts of different things, and in this case, I pushed it in both directions at once. Some would say it was a bad move to confess like I did, but I did so knowing what the ramifications would generally be. Lots more went on behind the scenes leading up to it all that hasn't been covered in interviews yet. I largely haven't be clearing up rumours either, which has made things even wilder at times.
>If you got into a big mag with nonsense poems it'd be an entirely different story
Wait for Phase 2, brother. I've told this to some of the outlets that have interviewed me since my story broke, but the main reason why I didn't bother with Granta, Poetry, etc., was because of the wait times (as well as the agent influence, with solicitation and so forth sometimes taking spots from regular writers). I had over 50 pieces that needed homes, and waiting 6-9 months at a time wasn't exactly an enticing prospect. Even shotgunning 5-10 of the pieces to the top mags and waiting would've been a complete nuisance. The project would've taken five years instead of two if I'd done it that way. Plus, Poetry, to their credit, at least has editors who would check things like background filler text (I would hope, anyway), so it's not as if I think all mags are so shitty they can't catch junky material when it comes their way. In the next phase, I'll be subbing to the big mags, under slightly different parameters. It's gonna take a while, though. Hold tight. Keen to write some "serious" poetry, too.
>>24717153
You are forgiven.
>>24717605
Max is great.
Anonymous No.24717708 [Report]
>>24716875
wait, are you the one that was asking honor for a blurb and you briefly shilled and your thread got nuked like right away? i was trying to rememer the name of that book. and the author name which was weird.
Anonymous No.24717750 [Report] >>24717757
>>24716404 (OP)
>White also claimed that Barry “couldn’t even write” and that he’d agreed to edit the book “under the assumption that [the author] was like the character in the book: an uneducated black woman from Vancouver. So, I was trying to help her write this book, right? And wasted three months of my life.”
lol
Anonymous No.24717757 [Report] >>24720102
>>24717750
Pathetic attempt at damage control.
Anonymous No.24717782 [Report] >>24717808 >>24718259
>>24717687
>Some would say it was a bad move to confess like I did, but I did so knowing what the ramifications would generally be.
You're missing my point, which is that by attaching this novel to that penname you effectively wrote it off as unserious work; you made it part of a prank. Again, any praise you received for it under those pretenses is now invalidated because of your own claim that said work only saw "success" on account of your assumed identity. That's a huge fuck up. Your claim wasn't that success is only possible if you're the right kind of minority, it was that dogshit work would be praised over idpol, and now your novel is framed---by you---as dogshit.

It'd be different if you tried using that notoriety to then publish your novel under your real name from the start. I don't think it would help much, but it at least wouldn't taint it as a farce.

>I'll be subbing to the big mags, under slightly different parameters
If you really cared to make a point you would have suffered the wait from the start. You now have a name for writing shitty meaningless poetry, and for trying to dupe people with it. And (supposing your next prank succeeds) if you claim a big mag only accepted your work because of an assumed identity, then the reveal shows what? That your work sucked but got published because of idpol? That your work was good and you could have just published under your real identity from the start?

There will only be a small fraction of people who will think your work was both good and only succeeded due to idpol; they'd have to simultaneously believe both that the big magazines have high standards and that they're exclusionary. The only other positive spin you could put on it is that you're capable of authentically emulating another identity, but who in that small fraction I outlined above will give a shit?

>I'd have to run that by a few people first.
Man, you're being published by a guy who goes by McBussy. Just post them if you're going to keep coming here to talk them up.
Anonymous No.24717808 [Report]
>>24717782
>>Man, you're being published by a guy who goes by McBussy
McBussy is an honorable 4chan poster. You don't get to talk shit about him, redditor.
Anonymous No.24718132 [Report] >>24721782
>>24716875
I remember when anons on this website were anonymous
Anonymous No.24718259 [Report] >>24718467 >>24719704
>>24717782
I think the bad ethnic poetry (under a diff. pseudonym iirc) and Femoid were a bit of a different aim; the latter the writer seems to have taken as a serious work, and was about to be published by a respected small press (Calamari). If anything, the message might be that even good work (I don't know if it is) will be passed on coming from a whitemale&c. author and needs to be published under a marginalized identity. Still, insofar as the story broke, all the attention was almost exclusively on the poems (Shakespussy?) and, to the extent (anecdotical) this book gets any attention at all, I agree, the reception will just conflate it with the bad-poems-in-marginal-idpubs stunt.
Anonymous No.24718467 [Report] >>24718471 >>24718858 >>24719942
>>24718259
>I think the bad ethnic poetry (under a diff. pseudonym iirc) and Femoid were a bit of a different aim
>the reception will just conflate it with the bad-poems-in-marginal-idpubs stunt
I hadn't noticed the difference in pseudonym, but it's all the same after the reveal. Yes, I agree the novel was probably a serious endeavour; it being conflated with shit work is exactly what I'm saying.

I wish the original editor's letter on dropping the novel was comprehensible. I tried reading it before and I'll translate some of it.
https://5cense.com/25/1225.htm
>[we] had a nightmare experience last month ... after spending ~6 intensive months editing and designing a book (Femoid by S.A.B. Marcie), Calamari had to pull it because this person lied about who they were
>when this person 1st submitted the manuscript he outright lied and said he was a 1/2-black woman and needed to write under a pseudonym because the books deals with doxxing that actually happened in real life so this person needed to protect their identity
>[we] slaved over this book more than any other Calamari book, widdled it down from ~450 pgs to ~300 plus not large swaths cut but meticulously pruning and editing, plus the design was complicated because there were numerous emojis interspersed and I had to replicate chat windows and deep web forums ... all very 4chanesque gen-Z shit normally I would of never been interested in but I made an exception since <<she>> was a young unpublished black woman with no higher education ...
>the scheme was pathological, to the extent that at a few points <<she>> said it was hard to revisit the material because she was too emotionally attached and it made them cry when they had to relive what happened in the book (a breakup caused by the doxxing) ...
>[...]
><<she>> said they needed to protect <<her> identity and I can also relate to not wanting inate identities revealed
>it's a shame thought because now I most definitely need to talk face-to-face with someone before publishing them, so this person ruined it for anyone down the road that wants to publish anon/psuedononymously
>[...]
>If this Aaron guy had been up front about it from the beginning (that he was a white dude writing this story for his supposedly 1/2-black girlfriend who was mentally unsound and not able to write the book for herself), then maybe that would have been a different story ...
>but still, as I told this River Page reporter guy, not an interesting story in itself, especially since Calamari is more interested in HOW a story is told and a great part of HOW the Femoid story was told was due to [our] heavy-handed edits
Lotta bitching in that that can be boiled down to "we gave a bad book special attention because of the author's identity," but it's also being said after the fact, so no way to distinguish it from ass-covering; his claim is the memoir nature of it is what fundamentally made it interesting.
Anonymous No.24718471 [Report] >>24719704
>>24718467
cont.
I was pretty curious to see whether the McBussy version would look entirely different, considering this guy claims he and his other editor friend did tons of work on it, and I imagined they might find a way to withhold that. But except for the cover and lack of colour, the first two chapters look identical.

Aaron, did they really do as much editing as this guy claims? 450 pages down to 300? All the chat and webpages too?

What was the deal with being reticint to discuss the story? That's one thing that originally stood out to me in the story; the author mentions an AI-generated book earlier on in the letter, so I thought it may have been implying Femoid was at least partially AI-generated and thus why the author couldn't really revisit what happened in it. But I guess the more obvious answer is that pressing for details was asking for details that didn't exist (why not ask the girlfriend?).
Anonymous No.24718853 [Report] >>24719704
>>24716875
>I see I've been summoned
You were probably summoned by McBussy. Can't blame you tho. I would probably come running too if summoned by any kind of bussy
Anonymous No.24718858 [Report] >>24719322 >>24719359
>>24718467
>all very 4chanesque gen-Z shit normally I would of never been interested in but I made an exception since <<she>> was a young unpublished black woman with no higher education
haha!
Anonymous No.24718917 [Report] >>24719046
>>24716946
Not realizing that Woolston is now the grandfather figure of this board and the main tastemaker of /lit/
Anonymous No.24719046 [Report] >>24719169
>>24718917
He's basically the #1 rated author in Australia
Anonymous No.24719169 [Report]
>>24719046
Close. #1 in his genre (lo-fi prose).
Anonymous No.24719223 [Report]
Aaron, tell me about Mr Calamari. Why does he write like… that?
Anonymous No.24719322 [Report] >>24719359
>>24718858
Why would you even write that? I thought, as a publisher, they might be different; but that just reads like a caricature of the wokest normie publisher/"looking-for" agent.
Anonymous No.24719359 [Report] >>24719704
>>24719322
>>24718858
>I would of never been interested
Imagine allowing this guy to edit your work.
Anonymous No.24719704 [Report] >>24719854 >>24719950 >>24731332
>>24718259
Yeah, the poetry stuff kind of subsumed the rest of the story, unfortunately.
>>24718471
I originally wrote it to be 150,000 words, but I chopped it down considerably before submitting it. Then, with some of his guidance, I chopped it down more. Every editor helps with that. He didn't do anything particularly unusual in that regard, as much as he may disagree. I still respect him as an editor, as unhinged as he is, though (even when he introduced new grammatical errors into my manu at times). As I've said before: If every editor who offered commentary or advice or editorial suggestions for the books they worked on somehow became a contributor for/controller of them, no artist would be the sole author of any book, and they wouldn't be able to republish anywhere. Our industry doesn't work that way. Very weird that he'd still be so insistent upon exercising control over the book when his whole motto revolves around freedom for artists (pic rel). I could go into detail about how much he deliberately tried to inconvenience me after the story broke, but I'd rather not here, for legal reasons.
>AI-generated book
He published a book of material generated from the AI model he programmed or whatever. Can't remember the name. Complained to me that no one bought it. Go figure. At one point, he wanted me to try using AI to streamline the narrative/dialogue of "Femoid," and I refused because that's gay. There's no point in writing a novel if you're gonna appeal to a computer to help you with it. He might've used AI to generate one piece of art in the original (I wouldn't have had control over that), but it's since been removed.
>>24718853
lmao
>>24719359
His stable of writers is excellent, at least. His personal writing style... Well, you can decide. Mind you, one of the books of his he mailed me was very impressive in scope. I'll give him that. The admiration I personally expressed to him many, many times was is continues to be genuine.
Anonymous No.24719854 [Report] >>24720102
>>24719704
>He published a book of material generated from the AI model he programmed or whatever
Gotcha. When I first read his letter I thought there was an implication about your work being AI-assisted, but I don't have any suspcions like that anymore. I trust you're genuine. And yeah I agree an AI book is dumb, even if he's got good taste.

>If every editor who offered commentary or advice or editorial suggestions for the books they worked on somehow became a contributor for/controller of them
My complaint here would be that you entered into a transaction with him. I agree an editor shouldn't gain rights to the author's writing, but he still clearly put in work to improve (edit and design) your novel, however much that may have been, and under the assumption of publishing the work and receiving a share of the proceeds. You entered into that agreement with him, formal or not, under false pretenses, knowing he'd likely drop you in the end. But he still did all that work, and you ran off with it. Sure, it cost you a (relatively more serious) publisher, but you still ripped him off in the end, respect or not, and you should reflect on that (and how it casts you in the future, pseudonym-less).
Anonymous No.24719942 [Report] >>24720102
>>24718467
kek, would have been based if it was the author's intention all along to just piss this editor off by baiting him with a DEI novel. too bad he was actually serious about getting published; the project works a lot better just as a prank on the publisher. extremely poetic irony that the publisher outright admits the novel was shit but he was just trying to play white savior to a precious niggerino
Anonymous No.24719950 [Report]
>>24719704
>he wanted me to try using AI to streamline the narrative/dialogue
What a fucking hack. And a scumbag.
Anonymous No.24720102 [Report] >>24720777
>>24719854
>you should reflect on that
I take your point. I do see why he would hate me now, and why my conduct, regardless of the justifications I could provide for it, would be viewed by some with suspicion. To play the victim or deny any wrongdoing would be disingenuous on my end. I'd love to patch things up with D -- or, at the very least, broker some sort of truce -- but I don't think he's shown any interest in that so far. I'd say more about his chief misunderstandings of the situation, but, again, it may not be wise to do so on here. He's (allegedly) a very politically motivated guy, and he (allegedly) gave me no opportunity to even try to make things right before cutting contact with me. I'd quite enjoyed our correspondences during the editing process, too.
>>24719942
A few aspects of the novel, to be fair, are ridiculous to the point of complementing my "Echo" experiment. For example, I wanted to see how much offensive stuff I could put into "Femoid" (See: the pseudo-Cioran aphorism section, the quasi-Nietzschean "Cock Carousel" diatribe, or the "Joker"-esque comedy club rant/climax) before even the guise of writing as an insane genderfluid mulatto girl couldn't excuse it. And I knowingly threw in the usual "female alt lit writer" cliches/tropes of Neopets, milk, etc. I briefly considered turning it into a fully satirical/compromised work, but I think that would have undercut the core purpose of it, which was to try to humanize the BPD demons out there and to try to examine what moving on from a lifestyle of bedrotting and sperging out and all that might look like for them. This literary era is already replete with ironic, demoralizing nonsense anyway.
>>24717757
Pretty much. He offered to publish the novel without any of the significant changes I later made through additional passes. He was (allegedly) ready to put it out back when it was, like, 115,000 words and far looser in spots. I did knowingly dog it on one or two subsequent editorial passes to make it seem like I was less experienced as a writer, but that's hardly cause for calling someone trash. If anything, it took even more care and effort for me to selectively "miss" things. Not to mention, I essentially did "Echolalia Review" alone, top to bottom, save for N of Pere Ube's (love the dude, despite his having to ditch the press at a bad time -- we're still on solid terms) very minor final check and design changes, so D's contention means little to me.
Anonymous No.24720777 [Report]
>>24720102
Post the PDFs.
Anonymous No.24721559 [Report]
bumpin4pdfs
Anonymous No.24721782 [Report] >>24721848
>>24718132
>"I remember when anons on this website were anonymous"
Yeah, and those anons were faggots who knew each other like the back of their hands, grandpa, go back to bed and think of the "good ol' days" tomorrow morning. <3
Anonymous No.24721848 [Report]
>>24721782
>hands
nowadays we say handussy
Anonymous No.24723156 [Report] >>24723173
If I legally change my name to Gabriel Smith and promise you a blurb, will I get a free PDF?
Anonymous No.24723173 [Report] >>24723184
>>24723156
I have read the listing on McBussy website that Gabriel Smith praised this novel
Anonymous No.24723178 [Report]
>vegeta seasoning
Should have been a sign a man wrote this.
Anonymous No.24723184 [Report] >>24723195
>>24723173
That's the joke. He supposedly rescinded his priase.
Anonymous No.24723195 [Report] >>24723200
>>24723184
are you a tranny?
Anonymous No.24723200 [Report]
>>24723195
Nope, it's all there.
Anonymous No.24724520 [Report]
>I DRAW, JON—IT’S WHAT I DO (from FEMOID)
https://www.fugitivesandfuturists.com/fiction/78hwj7lki0puzl2ljh3y2pth5sklff
Anonymous No.24725473 [Report] >>24725501
i have gotten many excellent recommendations from mr mcbussy's yearly roundups so i might buy this to support him, it looks pretty funny
Anonymous No.24725501 [Report] >>24725562 >>24726123
>>24725473
>mcbussy
Isn't this just another one of our schizo author's many pseudonyms? Five bucks says that it is.
Anonymous No.24725562 [Report]
>>24725501
Aaron isn't McBussy. Five bucks says the guy you're replying to is though.
Anonymous No.24725613 [Report]
>>24716404 (OP)
mcbussy replied 2 me on youtube. what a great guy
Anonymous No.24726123 [Report]
>>24725501
idk, the first time i stumbled upon the man known as mcbussy he was doing a car rant about getting divorced. at least that's who i associate with the name. i check in on him at christmas every year too see his favorite "reads"
Anonymous No.24726872 [Report] >>24726890 >>24726909
>>24716875
before i pull triggy on this i want to know if the printing and typesetting is any good and not a total hackjob. we call upon the author to please post images
Anonymous No.24726890 [Report] >>24726899
>>24726872
There are previews on the website they're both sold from. Both left-align the text instead of justifying, if that offends you as much as it offends me.
Anonymous No.24726899 [Report] >>24728753
>>24726890
amateur hour. and the dialogue is double-spaced. fucking hell mcbussy, get it together son
Anonymous No.24726909 [Report] >>24726932 >>24733262
>>24726872
The McBussy website says how you can get their stuff for free.
Anonymous No.24726932 [Report]
>>24726909
i'm not above begging, but if the pdf is any indication the epub (my preferred format) is going to be a shitshow, with all the 4chan posts, footnotes and emojis
Anonymous No.24728475 [Report]
>>24716404 (OP)
Damn, dogshit, eh?
Anonymous No.24728564 [Report]
>>24716404 (OP)
Where can I pirate this?
Anonymous No.24728753 [Report] >>24728807 >>24728843
>>24726899
The original version of Fem is formatted the same way, so it's intentional. And the second novel is in all-lowercase to simulate the zoomer aesthetic, with the dialogue indented and formatted almost like that of a play.
Anonymous No.24728807 [Report]
>>24728753
>so it's intentional
why tho
Anonymous No.24728843 [Report] >>24728950
>>24728753
Having a reason doesn't make it a good thing to do. I also thought £, flesh was supposed to be the more serious of the two, so seeing that the preview is 90% simulated texts is disappointing; above somewhere it was said that Femoid eventually ditches the saturation of lingo-ism, but is this other novel that entirely? Is there a "why" to it aesthetically beyond standing out?

big lol at Woolston having a blurb. If that's you Aaron, could you say what you actually think of Woolston's books? I think that'd be a /lit/ first.
Anonymous No.24728950 [Report] >>24729060 >>24729129 >>24729140 >>24735010 >>24736514
>>24728843
I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to typography and such, too, but this type of formatting felt right for these projects. Matched with the subject matter. There were light Sam Pink (lol -- loathe his work) influences for Fem's formatting, but for the most part, I went with something a little unique, for better or worse, for both novels.
>it was said that Femoid eventually ditches the saturation of lingo-ism
Fem does break free from lingo-ism, yes. With that one, you can see that Savoy is trapped in it initially, making her even more difficult and annoying as a person, and it's only when she starts to take off the proverbial mask that her true voice, a more vulnerable and "authentic" one (as much as I dislike this word's overuse in relation to contemp. lit), emerges -- or else, we can assume it will for her going forward, as she continues to change for the better. (People like her are terrified of direct, neutral personal expression, because it robs them of the usual linguistic and behavioural safeguards against feelings of weakness, inadequacy, etc. But they need to be able to be honest with themselves and others in order to find real, lasting happiness.) For flesh, it starts out mired in lingo-ism as well, also intentionally, because the four main characters are stuck in their own version of an ironic/resentful state. Morrow, the MC, is the worst of the bunch -- as if she's Savoy's younger sister or something. (It takes place in the same "universe," as they say, as Fem, and Sav is name-dropped at one point.) To me, the (excessive) quoting of memes is empty humour that younger people these days use to passively converse or to, in more important instances, grope at larger ideas they either can't consciously express or haven't the energy, skill, or interest to. As the book wears on, each character is forced to drop their facades in a different way and come to terms, in real words, with what they've done and what they actually, deep down, want out of life. (I won't spoil that here.) There is deliberately only one capital letter in the whole book, and it comes at the end, once Morrow's figured herself out.
>Woolston
He sent me one of his books, which I have read. I'll have to come back later and give a proper take when I'm not this sleep-deprived. But he's a good dude, and I respect his hustle. I'm surprised anons are so mean to him on here. lmao.
Anonymous No.24729060 [Report]
>>24728950
>anons are so mean to him on here. lmao.
what are you talking about? we love him.
Anonymous No.24729129 [Report] >>24729167
>>24728950
please explain how left-aligned and double-spaced (femoid) was preferable to justified and single-spaced+indented (every other novel ever written)
what purpose does it serve? what about it "felt right"; more "right", even, than the traditional format? what made you go with something "unique" for the body text? do you believe that this "unique" formatting heightens the work somehow? did you at any point have the reader in mind? the best and biggest writers of all time didn't choose to fuck around like this, why did you?

sorry to be up your ass about this but i see it all the time with debut writers. they either crank the gimmick dial up to max to paper over deficiencies in the text, or they're too lazy/dumb to take a single day to figure out how to make a book even remotely presentable. or they think that the words are the only things that matter (not true, obviously, since nothing is ever published in raw manuscript form). or they actually can't spot the difference. in any case, why should i (or anyone) trust a writer so aesthetically impaired?
Anonymous No.24729140 [Report]
>>24728950
Gotcha, I get what you were going for (writing-wise; I don't think the left-aligning is a good idea, but I'll let the other guy tear you apart). My concern is that committing wholly to that kind of style in a work is a risk, particularly with flesh; is there a reason you didn't go for a more conventional narrative with this style in snippets? You could still accomplish the shift without having to (potentially) mire the entire work in it.

When I read this sort of thing I get a better idea of the concept, but reading
>I wanted to see how much offensive stuff I could put into "Femoid"
makes me think a lot of the concept was an interest in fucking around.

>But he's a good dude, and I respect his hustle.
You know this is a scathing review.
>I'm surprised anons are so mean to him on here. lmao.
That's the fate of a shill unless you campaign well enough to get people to read AND like you. The only time I see him pop up these days is when it's presumably him posting the cover of his latest book. A piece he wrote for a /lit/ mag a couple years back got him laughed at with the brief "lofi prose" meme. The only way I've seen authors gain a positive reception here is to give away their book *ahem* post the pdfs *ahem* and be overt when posting it.

>Sam Pink (lol -- loathe his work)
I particularly like Person (and some of his other books), but I have a really hard time calling him an artist of any kind. At worst his auto-fiction feels pandering, and the moments of insight or emotion feel almost incidental. I also did not like the few pieces of pure fiction I read from him, which felt damning.

Who's a contemporary author you do like? Inspiration going into Femoid/flesh?
Anonymous No.24729167 [Report] >>24730255
>>24729129
you have a point there, anon. i hate gimmicks myself. i hope the author will learn from this disaster.
Anonymous No.24730255 [Report] >>24731301
>>24729167
disaster? bit harsh. just a doggone shame is all...
Anonymous No.24731301 [Report]
>>24730255
What do you think of the formatting on this one?

https://toffeeshare.com/c/eKmnGcBEQT

It looks like it's sized for small devices or something.
Anonymous No.24731332 [Report] >>24731346
>>24719704
How do you edit? Do you pay someone to do line editing? If so how much do you pay?

My manuscript has promise but I am a bad editor
Anonymous No.24731346 [Report] >>24731425 >>24731535
>>24731332
He pretended to be an uneducated black chick and got someone to edit it for free.
Anonymous No.24731425 [Report] >>24732893
>>24731346
i'm not saying it's right but you can't knock the hustle either
Anonymous No.24731535 [Report]
>>24731346
>someone
yeah, someone who writes like this
>I would of never been interested
Anonymous No.24732094 [Report] >>24732890
did the author reveal his identity as a gotcha or did someone else figure it out?
Anonymous No.24732890 [Report] >>24732994
>>24732094
As a gotcha, yeah. Cost him his first publisher (same guy who helped edit), who was a lot more serious/established than McBussy.
Anonymous No.24732893 [Report]
>>24731425
Hahaha he is just covered in dandruff man what the
Anonymous No.24732994 [Report] >>24733256 >>24733613 >>24733626
>>24732890
why tho
why waste your shot at the literary lifestyle on a silly stunt? it’d be one thing if the writing was utter garbo, but from what i've seen it's well above the troll (and /lit/) average (though i assume the chan lingo and other secret edgelord handshakes become tedious very fast)

and now his name is mud. for what, exactly? proving some ben shapiro point about DEI? it's barely even an "own" since the calamari guy (small fry in the grand scheme of things) seems to be pathologically noided. come back when you take down simon & schuster with your blackface routine, barry
Anonymous No.24733256 [Report]
>>24732994
>noided
what does this mean?
Anonymous No.24733262 [Report]
>>24726909
Can you guys post compilations of the submissions?
Anonymous No.24733613 [Report]
>>24732994
You're not the first to say it, not even in this thread. The irony is that his novel is the serious work, while his "haha DEI" work was under a different pseudonym and deliberate nonsense, BUT sent to a bunch of no-name online magazines. This Calamari guy is leagues above the magazines he played his big prank on (and did supposedly have some more serious indie lit connections, but still). It's also wild to me how he talks about how he
>wanted to see how much offensive stuff I could put into "Femoid"
earlier, yet still tries to bill it as serious work.

And not only is his name mud for the whole farce, but his earlier publisher supposedly put in a bunch of work on editing, which Aaron walked away with at the end; the book McBussy is publishing is actually identical page-for-page to what Calamari released (and then pulled). It's a grey zone, but that's the bigger fuck-up in my eyes: he has made it clear he will fuck with you and then straight rip you off.
Anonymous No.24733626 [Report] >>24733639 >>24733644
>>24732994
>from what i've seen
Post an excerpt at least
Anonymous No.24733639 [Report] >>24733644 >>24733648 >>24737486
>>24733626
Anonymous No.24733644 [Report]
>>24733626
>>24733639
Anonymous No.24733648 [Report] >>24734064
>>24733639
he dropped a tannhauser reference and some idiot thought this was an uneducated black woman?
Anonymous No.24734064 [Report]
>>24733648
much like the "other side" holds out eternal hope for a single good (or even passable) contemporary chud author, the progs desperately want bipoc genius to crawl straight out of the gutter and will go any length necessary to preserve such a rare delusion
that is not a knock on calamari man, who seems to respect people's privacy/anonymity (to his own detriment, in this case)
Anonymous No.24734088 [Report]
>>24716875
nta but I liked both novels and I support you
Anonymous No.24735010 [Report]
>>24728950
Bumping for the Woolston review.
Anonymous No.24736514 [Report]
>>24728950
*ahem* BUMP FOR THE WOOLSTON REVIEW
Anonymous No.24737333 [Report]
BARRY
Anonymous No.24737486 [Report]
>>24733639
This is the gayest thing I've ever read in my entire life.