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Anonymous No.24724888 [Report] >>24724897 >>24725179 >>24725199 >>24725446 >>24725492 >>24725516 >>24725538 >>24725547 >>24725632 >>24725740
My literary analysis class textbook has a section on feminism and it begins with two and a half pages of based quotes from famous authors.
Anonymous No.24724890 [Report] >>24724897 >>24725199 >>24725516 >>24725516 >>24725538
Anonymous No.24724892 [Report] >>24724897 >>24725199 >>24725516 >>24725538
Anonymous No.24724897 [Report] >>24725692
>>24724888 (OP)
>>24724890
>>24724892

I can't even
Anonymous No.24725119 [Report] >>24725133 >>24725692
2000 years of history can't be wrong
Anonymous No.24725133 [Report]
>>24725119
middling intellects say otherwise
Anonymous No.24725154 [Report] >>24725390 >>24725468 >>24725489 >>24725532 >>24725595 >>24725692 >>24726029
My favorite part of these is that many of them are completely misunderstood, demonstrating that feminist critics can't do basic literary analysis.
The quote from Shakespeare is from Hamlet, as in the character himself. I don't even think the Plato quote is real (I'm open to correction). The quotes from Twain and Vonnegut are obvious jokes.
Anonymous No.24725157 [Report]
>Hesiod, poet
>Horace Walpole, author of [etc.]
>Poet Laureate
>Proudhon [the anarchist]
>Charles-Pierre
>Valentine de Saint-Point [the "canonical male writer"]
Anonymous No.24725179 [Report] >>24725372 >>24725692
>>24724888 (OP)
>The man who trusts a woman trusts a deceiver.
It took 2800 years but women have finally managed to refine their deceptions to the point where this central fact is no longer widely known.
Anonymous No.24725199 [Report] >>24725220 >>24725237 >>24725389 >>24725598
>>24724888 (OP)
>>24724890
>>24724892
>Wimminz r lik, tards n sheit
>Wimminz lik so dum n sheit
>Wimminz lik so EBIL n sheit
>anons in this thread: Wow. This just proves that feminist literary studies is a waste of time...
/lit/ is full of genuine retards
Anonymous No.24725220 [Report] >>24725280
>>24725199
Sorry you wasted 4 years on underwater feminist basketweaving
Anonymous No.24725237 [Report] >>24725280 >>24725283
>>24725199
>Anon creates scenarios in his head that hasn't happened yet to get mad
>Calls others retards
Anonymous No.24725280 [Report] >>24725286
>>24725220
>>24725237
>oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're a WOMAN
Right, exactly like that
Anonymous No.24725283 [Report]
>>24725237
I never said that. You might also be a male feminist faggot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous No.24725286 [Report] >>24725398 >>24725580
>>24725280
I never said that. You might also be a male feminist faggot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Anonymous No.24725365 [Report]
Hopkins is particularly right.
I remember trying to translate some of his longer sonnets in french, with little success.
Anonymous No.24725372 [Report] >>24725405
>>24725179
Who said that quote? I would like to get more books on topics like that.
Anonymous No.24725389 [Report]
>>24725199
How to spot someone who has never known a woman in one easy trick.
Anonymous No.24725390 [Report]
>>24725154
>The quote from Shakespeare is from Hamlet
They just really wanted to include Shakespeare in their list because he's ubiquitous with Western literature.
Anonymous No.24725395 [Report] >>24725397
Do these types ever wonder why they believe that which they believe now, and not what was believed then? Why equality of value between man and woman, why value of humanity at all
Anonymous No.24725397 [Report]
>>24725395
>Do these types ever wonder?
No.
Anonymous No.24725398 [Report] >>24725561 >>24725580
>>24725286
>oh yeah? oh yeah? well you're EFFEMINATE
>I never said you were a woman I never said that I never said that I said you were just like a woman that's different
Fascinating how you people will say this and then turn around and say that feminist readings are unnecessary bullshit. Prime example of getting so upset it makes you retarded
Anonymous No.24725405 [Report]
>>24725372
I know noone on lit reads but it's quite literally the first quote in op's pic.
Anonymous No.24725420 [Report] >>24725431
Disingenuous presentation of quotes to say the least. Several of these are out of context, deliberately misrepresented, or are even of dubious attribution. A couple were not even digs at women in particular, or even very serious. Mark Twain's joke, for example, contained absolutely no disparagement (or even mention) of Jane Austen's gender. Twain delivered many such insults over the course of his literary life at a wide range of authors, but Jane Austen is off limits because she's a woman?
Anonymous No.24725431 [Report]
>>24725420
>Jane Austen is off limits because she's a woman?
Same reason Schope took shots at all the intellectual heavyweights of his time but is remembered within the current reading public for one throw away essay.
Anonymous No.24725446 [Report] >>24725448 >>24725557
>>24724888 (OP)
>Not all women
Anonymous No.24725448 [Report] >>24725542
>>24725446
Obviously.
Anonymous No.24725468 [Report]
>>24725154
>I don't even think the Plato quote is real
It's not from the Platonic dialogues. It's one of those quotes people would just ascribe to a famous thinker
>https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/who-has-not-made-me-a-woman/
>Several modern scholars, beginning with the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer, have remarked on the uncanny parallel between the wording of the Jewish blessings and an ancient Greek tradition ascribed variously to Thales, Socrates, or Plato. The sage in question was allegedly in the habit of thanking God for three things: “that I was born a human and not a beast; a man and not a woman; a Greek and not a Barbarian.”
Anonymous No.24725485 [Report]
>one of the outspoken anti-feministic figures is named Honor the Ballsack
Anonymous No.24725489 [Report]
>>24725154
>I don't even think the Plato quote is real
I don't know if the quote is real or not, but he did say thay if someone's good then he will reincarnate as a man, as if someone is evil they'll be a woman.
Anonymous No.24725492 [Report]
>>24724888 (OP)
Lost with Alexander Pope
Anonymous No.24725516 [Report] >>24725530 >>24725536
>>24724888 (OP)
>>24724890
>>24724890
>>24724892
Remember ladies, this is was crypto-chuds mean when they talk about the importance of restoring "lost tradition" and the "canon." Run don't walk way.
Anonymous No.24725530 [Report]
>>24725516
>restoring
kek

ps - you cant even run
Anonymous No.24725532 [Report]
>>24725154
the timaeus does say that the first rung of reincarnation after living a viceful life as a man is to become a woman, and from there animals
Anonymous No.24725536 [Report]
>>24725516
You will become subservient again and you will enjoy it.
Anonymous No.24725538 [Report] >>24725579 >>24725581
>>24724888 (OP)
>>24724890
>>>24724892

Daily reminder that it was and still is men who set up the rules of society. It is men who through enlightment rationality declared women capable of possessing a res cogitans which only needs development to put them on equal footing, and a man who declared women as having a unique phenomenological experience that abuse to endlessly share vagina stories about. Feminism is the male rule of law, and is always instantiated by men, and can easily be taken away, as we have seen in the middle east. If women had any true feminist sense, they would learn how to fight and use weapons. But they do not, and seek to only react to the actions of men. Oh well, maybe in some future post war period we can get truly emancipated women
Anonymous No.24725542 [Report]
>>24725448
The Theotokos is, singularly the greatest human who wasn't also God, so there is that.

There is also Saint Thelca, Saint Lucy, etc. The Way of Perfection >>> 99.9% of self-help/practical philosophy written by men.
Anonymous No.24725547 [Report]
>>24724888 (OP)
Plato's quote reminds me of what we Jewish men say every morning.
>Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the Universe, who has not made me a woman
Anonymous No.24725557 [Report]
>>24725446
st mary of egypt is lowkey making my dih hard
Anonymous No.24725561 [Report] >>24725569 >>24725580
>>24725398
>More projection
I accept your concession
Anonymous No.24725569 [Report]
>>24725561
fais-toi soigner, mon pauv'vieux
Anonymous No.24725579 [Report]
>>24725538
Astute. The same principle holds in femdom and all other sorts of deviant sexual activity where the woman subjugates the man. She think she is control, that she is dominant. Ha
Anonymous No.24725580 [Report] >>24725598
>>24725561
>nuh uh you're projecting and sheit
>>24725286
>you might be a male feminist faggot
>>24725398
>prime example of getting so upset it makes you retarded
Anonymous No.24725581 [Report]
>>24725538
>Oh well, maybe in some future post war period we can get truly emancipated women
*gets dragged by Grug into a cave*
Anonymous No.24725595 [Report]
>>24725154
there is something oddly similar attributed to Socrates in the life of Thales by Diogenes Laertius
>Hermippus in his Lives refers to Thales the story which is told by some of Socrates, namely, that he used to say there were three blessings for which he was grateful to Fortune: “first, that I was born a human being and not one of the brutes; next, that I was born a man and not a woman; thirdly, a Greek and not a barbarian.”
Anonymous No.24725598 [Report] >>24725692
>>24725580
>You said faggot so that means you must be literally frothing in mouth
Lmao, Illiterate-kun I assure you I'm not even angry a little bit. Meanwhile you were the one first who said here >>24725199
>anons in this thread: Wow. This just proves that feminist literary studies is a waste of time... /lit/ is full of genuine retards
When literally no one before you said anything like that. And replied my post saying you are being schitzo with
>OH YEAH OH YEAH ARE YOU ANGRY ABOUT WOMEN?!?!?!??
Kek
Anonymous No.24725632 [Report] >>24725678
>>24724888 (OP)
The Eastern literary canon as well. The entire world, every civilization independently saw women as inferior. Why are men so mean?
Anonymous No.24725678 [Report] >>24725731
>>24725632
Except there is no proof for this particular quote
Anonymous No.24725692 [Report] >>24725695 >>24725844 >>24726029
>>24725598
>no one said anything like that
>>24724897
>I can't even
>>24725119
>2000 years of history can't be wrong
>>24725154
>feminist critics can't do basic literary analysis
>>24725179
>women are deceivers
Anonymous No.24725695 [Report] >>24725820
>>24725692
Thanks for proving feminists can't analyze text for shit.
Anonymous No.24725731 [Report]
>>24725678
That's good. I thought he really did say. Thank God. The only thing I can find in his texts talking about women is Analects 17.25.
Anonymous No.24725740 [Report] >>24725812
>>24724888 (OP)
I find Rousseau's quote to be the most insightful.
Anonymous No.24725761 [Report] >>24725843
how do we make women remember that we can overpower and rape any of them if we want to and that only another man could stop it frim happening?
Anonymous No.24725812 [Report] >>24725893
>>24725740
Aristotle has the most factual quote.
Anonymous No.24725820 [Report]
>>24725695
>no argument
Anonymous No.24725821 [Report]
> Asserting that literature should be free from biases of race, class, gender, or feminist criticism...

I'd like to think they put that comma there on purpose.

> values each member of society

https://dl1.cuni.cz/pluginfile.php/1172856/mod_resource/content/1/Simone%20Weil_Human_Personality_Self.pdf

We live in a bureaucratic society. Everyone who fits is either a cog in the machine, or tries to reason like it is. People who wrote that did not care about art and philosophy, nor about position of women is society, they simply prepared the “document” with negative examples and positive points that should be appropriate to make, and used the scandalous newspaper article style either unconsciously, or because it was most familiar to the public.

Great teacher would take just the Aristotle example, and make the whole class on how social environment shapes the mind, how metaphorical master-slave relationship is still not about actual slavery, what “men” and “women” were in Aristotle's model, etc. In other words, to understand why it was said.

Even the first quote itself undermines the whole narrative. If you think about, it tells you the no matter how many masturbatory stories about great war leaders and strictly male achievements they wrote and read, women easily tricked those couch dwelling thinkers, so the accounts of the era are missing not just history of women, but also history of such unfortunate interactions with them.
Anonymous No.24725843 [Report] >>24725917
>>24725761
Please continue with that story of how someone horrible is almost raping you, but you are saved by the totally good guy, and, incidentally, ready to take him inside at that very moment, and so it happens. Freud is taking notes.
Anonymous No.24725844 [Report]
>>24725692
>>women are deceivers
Yeah, that's what I said.
Anonymous No.24725893 [Report]
>>24725812
Aristotle is more on the technical side of things compared to Rousseau's which is more sentimental and heartfelt, he eloquently expressed women's chaotic and harsh nature and compared it to what seems like the hedgehog dilemma.
Anonymous No.24725902 [Report] >>24725906
Anonymous No.24725906 [Report]
>>24725902
Anonymous No.24725917 [Report]
>>24725843
>who hurt you?
you aint cut out for thinkin toots
Anonymous No.24726029 [Report]
>>24725692
I'm >>24725154 and I never said that feminist literary studies was a waste of time, it's just a fact that feminist literary critics are by and large uneducated and incompetent. I rather like the field, but the people who occupy it are idiots, as evidenced by the section from OP's textbook.