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Anonymous No.24727498 [Report] >>24727503 >>24727860 >>24729053 >>24729260 >>24730099 >>24730111 >>24730152 >>24730651 >>24731172 >>24731844 >>24731871 >>24732470 >>24732599 >>24734861 >>24735671
Perhaps we were too harsh on the Greeks…for years I sifted through the Symposium, offhand references to Ganymede, and even dialogue in Cicero, but then I saw this picture, and I understood the Greeks intuitively…
Anonymous No.24727503 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
took u years huh? yikers
Anonymous No.24727860 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
Even Nero had a trap as his boywife, some things never change
Anonymous No.24729053 [Report] >>24731633 >>24736066
>>24727498 (OP)
You had to see a .jpg to realize that boys were sexy? I see cuter boys every day when I go outside. You don't and never will understand the Greeks...
Anonymous No.24729260 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
If Mann lived to see this movie he probably would have died from cumming too much. Poles can look twinkish sometimes but the twinkest Pole no doubt gets mogged to death by the SWEDISH ARYAN APOLLO
Anonymous No.24730099 [Report] >>24730631 >>24731172 >>24731199 >>24732603 >>24734861
>>24727498 (OP)
I really don't understand you people. Are you actually doing homo shit irl or just cooming over face pictures of androgynous men? When it comes down to the actual sex you have to contend with the fact that this guy has a dick and balls, and you are going to be having sex with his shitty anus. Is this is porn sick male version of women thinking they want to have sex with a minotaur or something? Where irl it would be nothing like some cordoned off imagination. This stuff just reminds me of greentexts where some retarded anon goes to hookup with a tranny and ends up traumatised.
Anonymous No.24730111 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
/tv/ has some explaining to do
Anonymous No.24730152 [Report] >>24730645 >>24731113 >>24732509
>>24727498 (OP)
Ancient Greece was much more advanced than we are as a civilization, and this is one of the many reasons why. Their conception of the good was simply second to none, and the peerless heights to which they brought the exaltation and worship of beauty in all its forms remains unparalleled in the history of mankind. And yes, this heavily hinged on the glorification of the fleeting, weightless grace of pubescent boys. I long for the day this wretched epoch meets its demise, that the glories of the world may become apparent again to the souls of men.
Anonymous No.24730631 [Report] >>24730647 >>24738184
>>24730099
The greeks didn't do anal
Anonymous No.24730645 [Report]
>>24730152
Finally a good post in this pederast ridden cesspool of a thread; though I don't think pederasts can actually understand beauty, so they just lust after young men instead. No erasure of the will through contemplation of the platonic forms, only lust.
Anonymous No.24730647 [Report] >>24732474
>>24730631
There is no proof they did oral either
Anonymous No.24730651 [Report] >>24731264
>>24727498 (OP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2kggqbB_p0
Anonymous No.24731113 [Report]
>>24730152
>pubescent boys
And pre-pubescent boys as well. Can't forget about them.
Anonymous No.24731172 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
>A boy who looks and dresses like a girl made me like boys
what

>>24730099
this
Anonymous No.24731197 [Report] >>24731272
okay fags get on the stake
Anonymous No.24731199 [Report]
>>24730099
>or just cooming over face pictures of androgynous men?
It's that, but some people are troglodytes and go, "Wait, I can fuck dudes now?" and actually try it.
Anonymous No.24731264 [Report] >>24731393
>>24730651
Nobody else noticed the violinist?
Anonymous No.24731272 [Report] >>24731465
>>24731197
You won‘t do anything.
Anonymous No.24731333 [Report] >>24731393 >>24731840
>>24731187
Feet are not sexual
Anonymous No.24731393 [Report] >>24731401 >>24731505
>>24731264
ugly old gay alien twink. listen to cute boy sopranos instead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4qKsYn7t88

>>24731333
boyfeet are sexual because they make my penis hard
Anonymous No.24731401 [Report]
>>24731393
You guys have to stop being like this. Or you will get the rope.
Anonymous No.24731465 [Report]
>>24731272
I won't but he will
Anonymous No.24731505 [Report]
>>24731393
Straton pls stop
Anonymous No.24731525 [Report] >>24731541
how did the ancient greeks have 'sex' with boys? this is a legitimate question
Anonymous No.24731541 [Report]
>>24731525
Olive oil.
But there is no evidence it was a widespread thing.
Anonymous No.24731633 [Report] >>24731686
>>24729053
I go /out/side more than anyone on this board. I live in a college town. I see hundreds of strangers a day the 4 days a week I work. That young lad is cuter than any I see 'round these parts. You're talking out of your gaped asshole or are in some peculiar part of the world.
Anonymous No.24731686 [Report] >>24731824
>>24731633
>or are in some peculiar part of the world
I live next to a primary school.
Anonymous No.24731824 [Report]
>>24731686
Jesus! Only on 4chan. Thanks for the chuckle.
Anonymous No.24731840 [Report] >>24731960 >>24731990 >>24732076 >>24732438 >>24738369
>>24731333
They were to the Greeks
>To a Boy: Your condition is rather delicate, and it’s because, I am sure, your sandal pinches; new leather, you know, is quite likely to cut into flesh that is tender. That is why Asclepius readily heals wounds received in war and hunting and all such accidents, but neglects these others because of the voluntariness of the action—as due to indiscretion rather than to a god’s capricious malevolence. Why then don’t you walk barefoot? What grudge have you against the earth? Slippers and sandals and top-boots and shoes are for the wearing of invalids or the aged. Philoctetes, at any rate, is pictured in such protective garb—because he was lame and ill. But the philosopher from Sinope and the Theban Crates and Ajax and Achilles are pictured as wearing no shoes, and Jason as wearing but one. For the story goes that, when Jason was crossing the Anaurus River, one boot was caught by the mud and held fast under the stream, and so he had one bare foot—not that he deliberately chose to have, but that chance taught him what was best; and he went his way the victim of a salutary robbery. Let nothing come between the earth and your bare foot. Fear not, the dust will welcome your tread as it would welcome grass, and we shall all kiss your footprints. Ο perfect lines of feet most dearly loved! Ο flowers new and strange! Ο plants sprung from earth! Ο kiss left lying on the ground!
Philostratus, Letter 18
Anonymous No.24731844 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
Anonymous No.24731871 [Report] >>24731875
>>24727498 (OP)
I watched the movie adaption of Death in Venice (this kid plays Tadzio) and it was boring as fuck.
Anonymous No.24731875 [Report]
>>24731871
The movie sucks. The novella is short and dynamic
Anonymous No.24731960 [Report]
>>24731840
I must be Greek then.
Anonymous No.24731990 [Report]
>>24731840
These guys were fucking freaks
Anonymous No.24732076 [Report] >>24732451
>>24731840
Man these guys really got it. How could we fall so far down from such a lofty and sensitive existence, noble and privy to the delicate things of life?
Anonymous No.24732438 [Report] >>24732581
>>24731840
people put ancient Greece on a pede'stal (that's not a bad joke) like it was the height of civilization. Whereas it was actually quite disappointing and the later Christian attack on their nerd crap was quite justified tbqh
Anonymous No.24732451 [Report]
>>24732076
Unironically sensitivity to the beauty of the human foot seems to be a good litmus test for a person's (or a culture's) level of aesthetic development.
Anonymous No.24732470 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
For such an enlightened civilisation, they were certainly a bunch of shallow coomers
Anonymous No.24732474 [Report]
>>24730647
>thinking it's either anal or oral as if there are no other alternatives
ngmi
Anonymous No.24732509 [Report]
>>24730152
>weightless grace
>adolescent boys

Ballerinas have weightless grace. But adolescent boys? Only pederasts could unironically believe that
Anonymous No.24732539 [Report]
the greeks were more advanced than modern homos
Anonymous No.24732581 [Report]
>>24732438
Its funny how the Romans and Greeks, horrible, slave trading, perverse societies, are glorified because a handful of writers wrote some cool shit during those times.
This also applies on a smaller scale to individual writers, where perverts like Wilde, Mann or Carroll get all the excuses in the world from "intellectuals" because they wrote some good novels or poetry.
Shows the power of entertainment, as long as you are a good writer you can literary rape children and have hordes of admirers cover up or make excuses for you even long after your death.
Anonymous No.24732599 [Report] >>24732620 >>24732623 >>24733417 >>24733525
>>24727498 (OP)
Here's the thing for all lit/troons and homos.
Greek homosexuality was situational and the result of heavy segregation of sex and heavy regulation of heterosexual relationships. In an all male society where women were kept hidden and private, it's not surprising that sexual desire moved to the next thing most resembling a woman: male teens. The same pattern in seen in other culture were sexual segregation was strong: Islamic countries, China, Japan. And it was always an attraction to pubescent males, never to kids (pedophilia proper) nor fully matured men (homosexuality proper), because they were the only available object that looked somewhat feminine. See the ideal of a youth with three hairs on his chin in Islamic countries or the chigo in Japan, which involved a pubertal boy being shifted in status from child to a special and very feminized servant of senior monks - he was essentially a temporary courtesan for monks in an environment where females were forbidden - until the end of adolescence.
In essence ancient sanctioned homosexuality resembles the pattern found in prison and boarding schools: the lack of females forces men to use each other for sexual satisfaction.
Based on these facts, a following conclusion can be made: homosexuality flourishes the strongest in conservative and restrictive patriarchal societies where the normal intercourse between sexes is hindered by cultural and economic means. The moment women are liberated, socially sanctioned homosexuality - pederasty - vanishes.
As for lifelong homosexuality instead of a contingency fetish, all the cultures shafted what we would now call today homos and troons into marginal and religious roles - male prostitutes at goddess temple, simple prostitutes, actors, shamans, cult leaders. Essentially, all low status jobs for the mentally ill and the emotionally unstable. A study of religion would confirm that all the fetishes of troons and homos - crossdressing, scatophilia, urophilia, body mutilation and bondage - aren't that new and recur in religious contexts where the third sex reigned. It's highly likely that such a body modification as circumcision started as an initiation rite into adulthood because some proto-troon shaman obsessed with kid dick got the idea from the voices in his head that a dick must be mutilated to signal a change in identity. By the way, the only groups that engage in penile mutilation today are shaman led abos across the world and the LGBT "subculture."
Anonymous No.24732603 [Report]
>>24730099
>actually everyone is a neurotic jew like me
Not really.
Anonymous No.24732620 [Report]
>>24732599
>By the way, the only groups that engage in penile mutilation today are shaman led abos across the world and the LGBT "subculture."
Why did you not mention jews?
Anonymous No.24732623 [Report] >>24732843 >>24733466
>>24732599
Men without access to women jerk off or go to brothels, they dont sodomize boys.
"Prison gay" is a meme.
Anonymous No.24732702 [Report]
I must say you make a very compelling argument for why the liberation of women was a mistake.
Anonymous No.24732843 [Report]
>>24732623
Jerking off constantly is exactly what leads to homosexual depravity, you're deluded.
Anonymous No.24733417 [Report] >>24734638
>>24732599
I wouldn't agree wholly with that, but you do make good points.
The two sexes were totally separated sure, but they still fulfilled their natural desires at home. A sort of ying and yang developed between the two sexes, neither side infringing upon the others world.
The issue arises when men hold their sex to be totally superior to women. This is what occurred in many areas of Greece such as their seeing women as nothing more than wombs, and from this the weird pederast/homosexual things arise.
The inherent vice in some men cannot be ruled out either: some are just depraved and seek out bad things.
Anonymous No.24733466 [Report]
>>24732623

And men without access to the other outlets you just mentioned are well known to fuck other men in prison settings. Also, traditionally, catholic priests are respected community members who do have social access to entire communities (including women), and yet some of them are routinely found to have abused children. Basically, every clause of your entire post is plainly incorrect in every way, and you didn't put a moment's thought into your remarks.
Anonymous No.24733525 [Report]
>>24732599
ln Greece, the boys probably would have been pre-pubescent at the younger end. 12 is mentioned in a few texts as an age at which a boy became an appropriate object of attraction, and this would have been pre-pubescent (Aristotle mentions 14 as the age at which puberty begins). The majority of love poetry is directed towards boys. The majority of kalos inscriptions found have been dedicated towards boys. All of the gods have boy lovers. The god of love is himself boy-god. Pederasty likely existed in Sparta, despite women being more liberated there.

It wasn't situational, a lot of the Greek sources show that many Greeks expressed a pronounced, preferential interest in boys, and their gods and other mythological characters were interested in boys. It wasn't exclusive to pubescent boys, because on the younger end they would have been pre-pubescent. And there is no evidence that it was contingent on women being unliberated. Your post has been debunked.
Anonymous No.24733530 [Report]
Death to faggots.
Anonymous No.24733571 [Report] >>24733633
I'm straight and can only get hard to women, so maybe I'm not exactly the best judge of this, but feminine looking men always looked like chinese knockoff versions of women to me, I can't understand the appeal, it just looks weird to me. The only men who I met who I would call distractingly attractive even to me have all been classically masculine men, like, less Legolas and far more Aragorn. It's weird though because they were oppressively attractive without arousing any sexual feelings, while on the other hand feminine beauty naturally engenders lust as well as aesthetic appreciation. It's a strange feeling for men, I think, when those things are divorced from each other.
Anonymous No.24733572 [Report]
daily reminder Plato denounced fags and those who changed myth to reflect their debaucheries
Anonymous No.24733633 [Report]
>>24733571
>distractingly attractive
>classically masculine men
you are even more gay than the rest of these creepers
Anonymous No.24734638 [Report] >>24734680
>>24733417
>The issue arises when men hold their sex to be totally superior to women
which we are. that you think otherwise puts you in the same category as the subhuman pederasts in this thread
Anonymous No.24734680 [Report] >>24734684 >>24734692 >>24734751
>>24734638
Is there anything more cucked than being a heterosexual misogynist. Forced to worship that which you loathe…
Anonymous No.24734684 [Report] >>24734690 >>24734751
>>24734680
I think the sort of full on misogyny you see here probably comes from a place of deep-seated homosexuality. I understand getting annoyed about things women do but this bloodthirsty, fighting mad brand of sexism strikes me as in some way biochemical.
Anonymous No.24734690 [Report] >>24734715 >>24734751
>>24734684
Maybe. But to me it seems more plausible to hate something if you desire it, if you can’t live without it, if you resent it. It’s like how there’s no more bitter hatred than that which exists between former lovers. Homosexual misogyny on the other hand seems like it would always be tinged with indifference. The only thing that could make a homosexual passionately hate women is envy…
Anonymous No.24734692 [Report] >>24734715 >>24734751
>>24734680
women are just big children you can have sex with. there's nothing to worship and nothing to loathe.
Anonymous No.24734715 [Report] >>24734751
>>24734690
Maybe yeah. Hate and love are twin fires - I was thinking ‘not liking women enough’ is a result of being tinged with homosexuality, but actually this >>24734692 is probably the most homosexual take.
Anonymous No.24734751 [Report] >>24734775 >>24734924
>>24734680
wrong
>>24734684
>>24734690
>>24734692
>>24734715
you fags are getting it all backwards

look, just because i find pederasty reprehensible, it doesn't mean i'm straight; and absence of straightness doesn't imply homosexuality, either. that is to say: all these categorizations are meaningless to me

moreover, positing a hierarchy between men and women doesn't imply hatred of the latter—this would be like assuming most parents hate their own offspring

but since you touched on worship: it is true that i somewhat worship the male form; and that is a lofty sentiment precisely because i am not homosexual. disinterested aesthetic contemplation will always be nobler than its counterpart.

in short: the pleasure elicited in seeing a beautiful young man—much like the one OP has presented—is higher, more spiritual in a non-pederastic man than it is in his counterpart because the former kind of pleasure is altogether disconnected from the will to live—if you allow me to borrow schoppy's thoughts on the metaphysics of the beautiful, which i find quite appropriate for this thread
Anonymous No.24734775 [Report] >>24734829
>>24734751
>disinterested aesthetic contemplation will always be nobler than its counterpart.
I agree with Nietzsche's diagnosis that this is an anti-human sentiment, as if there were something disagreeable or inferior about having passions, about being moved by something. It's not even properly religious, imo. I like the Old Testament God with his furies and his "bowels of tender mercy and compassion" more than the sterile god dreamt up by the philosophers... That's not to say there is anything bad about "disinterested aesthetic contemplation" either - only that by elevating it above the experience of the sublime, you are trying to make people feel ashamed of their most powerful and moving experiences. Trying to turn them into termites. Anaemic robots.
Anonymous No.24734829 [Report] >>24734924
>>24734775
you're right. the power of music, for instance, lies entirely in its dionysiac intoxication and stimulating effect on the passions, no one would deny that. but i still think there is a hierarchy to whatever inner experiences can be elicited by sense perception. it'll be hard to convince me that lust lies anywhere near the top, hence my criticism of the people in this thread
Anonymous No.24734861 [Report]
>>24727498 (OP)
Most pretty girls are just faking it with makeup and elaborate hairstyles. There's really nothing underneath.
>>24730099
>has never heard of intercrural
Why are you even here?
Anonymous No.24734924 [Report]
>>24734751
There's a brief and informative bit in the Rubaiyat that claims that a man in the arms of a woman is as close to god as he is ever likely to be this side of the grave.
Robert Graves said it was the one subject (and one subject only) of all real poetry:
Water to water, ark again to ark,
From woman back to woman

True art centres on the celebration of human sexuality.

>>24734829
Hesiod and Parmenides said very significantly that Eros (god of carnal love) is the first, the creator, the principle from which all things proceed.
Anonymous No.24734980 [Report] >>24735017 >>24735116
faggots are disgusting
Anonymous No.24735017 [Report] >>24735116
>>24734980
something we can all agree on
Anonymous No.24735116 [Report] >>24735156
>>24734980
>>24735017
t. life-hating leftist degenerates
Anonymous No.24735156 [Report] >>24735261 >>24735438
>>24735116
isn't heterosexual love the only thing creating life?
Anonymous No.24735261 [Report] >>24735273
>>24735156
So?
Anonymous No.24735273 [Report] >>24735282
>>24735261
so if anyone's life-hating....
actually schopenhauer said sexual passion is the kernel of the will to live. it is how we conquer death
Anonymous No.24735282 [Report] >>24735295
>>24735273
You’re acting like homosexuality and heterosexuality are mutually exclusive and can’t coexist
Anonymous No.24735295 [Report] >>24735302
>>24735282
where exactly did i imply that?
just saying only one union creates life, so charging people (implicitly) propagating the boy-girl argument as life-hating is about as wrong as it gets.
Anonymous No.24735302 [Report] >>24735306
>>24735295
What is the boy-girl argument. Sounds stupid
Anonymous No.24735306 [Report] >>24735312
>>24735302
that penis in the vagina thing that god created.
Anonymous No.24735312 [Report] >>24735321
>>24735306
Homosex was also made
Anonymous No.24735321 [Report] >>24735326
>>24735312
but you can have no fruition! (no children.) so therefore that's the end of that. we'll mark those off.
Anonymous No.24735326 [Report] >>24735328
>>24735321
What’s the problem?
Anonymous No.24735328 [Report] >>24735331 >>24735438
>>24735326
perpetuation of the species
Anonymous No.24735331 [Report] >>24735355
>>24735328
I doubt homosexuality has any effect
Anonymous No.24735355 [Report]
>>24735331
if anything it has a negative effect - something inherently life-hating (biochemically life-hating).
as opposed to the boy-girl mfers who created every living person today (incl me and also you).
Anonymous No.24735392 [Report] >>24735417
cool to see retards who can't comprehend bisexuality
or the belief that all sex needs to be reproductive, despite the logistical nightmare that would prove to be, both for the catastrophic effect it would have on the population, and the strain it puts on the individuals involved

really cool to see that in the current year on /lit/
/sarcasm
Anonymous No.24735417 [Report] >>24735454
>>24735392
>/sarcasm
a bold move on a board with a particular distaste for redditism
Anonymous No.24735438 [Report] >>24735445
>>24735156
>>24735328
We are all anti-natalists here.
Anonymous No.24735445 [Report]
>>24735438
there are exceptions
Anonymous No.24735454 [Report] >>24735460
>>24735417
I've come to suspect you actually have to assert when you're sarcastic on 4chan now.
Anonymous No.24735460 [Report] >>24735473
>>24735454
ya don't.
cool to see someone who still believes in a population strain in 2025 though.
Anonymous No.24735472 [Report]
Women being emancipated from being women was the biggest mistake in human history
Anonymous No.24735473 [Report] >>24735508
>>24735460
Given that there are people IQ enough to believe overpopulation isn't a problem, sarcasm indicators do seem necessary.
Anonymous No.24735508 [Report] >>24735520 >>24735530
>>24735473
it was imagined to be a problem 10 years ago (really 30 to 60 [to 90] years ago but people are slow to change their views). it's an outdated fear. there's a jaw-dropping global crash in children being born. the biggest problem the world will face in 20 or so years is population collapse.
Anonymous No.24735520 [Report] >>24735593
>>24735508
It will get balanced out by the poor populations of the world becoming more affluent. They will consume more and pollute more.
Anonymous No.24735530 [Report] >>24735593
>>24735508
There has been a global crash in children being born (in first world countries) because the system of the first world is not capable of handling the growing first world population. It's not just a matter of feeding everyone. First world people expect first world living standards, which means industrial scale mulching of the environment, industrial scale production of plastics, factory farming at increasing scale, etc. etc. - to keep up with a growing first world population and the first world living standards they expect.
On the other hand, we also have exponentially booming populations of third world peoples. We're approaching 9 billion people on this planet.
This is a finite planet with limited resources.
Much of those resources are renewable, some of them are not.

Overpopulation is a growing problem.
Anonymous No.24735593 [Report] >>24735648
>>24735520
we have plummeting birth rates in most places.

>>24735530
we're not in any danger of resource collapse. our resources will be fine, we should make that clear.
in south korea, at their present birth rate, there will be 5 great grandchildren for every 100 south koreans alive today. at some point it actually leads to nothing short of the extinction of the human race.
Anonymous No.24735648 [Report] >>24735702
>>24735593
I agree that plummeting populations in "first world" countries is a real problem.
But overpopulation in a first world system is also a terrible problem because of how much it demands from the natural environment.
Again, it's not a matter of merely feeding everyone.
It's a matter of the complex logistics of maintaining a first world civilization, and not just that, but of ensuring that the first world is worth living in and not an industrial hellscape where people are generally miserable.

And then overpopulation of lower castes is also a massive problem.
Anonymous No.24735671 [Report] >>24736048
>>24727498 (OP)
I think the Greeks built their glorious civilization on a system of oppression. Then at some point social progresses came due to urbanization and civilized living, and one day they were like: 'hey, oppression is le bad. Let's give rights to poor people and tolerate the gays! We should also liberate the slaves and tolerate mixed marriages!'
Tolerance upon tolerance, their civilization ended up getting anally raped by the more virile and conservative Macedonian Greeks.
Anonymous No.24735702 [Report] >>24735705
>>24735648
you’re worried that there might be too many people to maintain a ‘first-world lifestyle,’ but at the same time, you’re panicking about overpopulation collapsing resources? either we have too many people to manage logistics, or we don’t. the earth has more than enough resources - your ‘industrial hellscape’ scenario isn’t a numbers problem, it’s a planning problem. blaming humans for existing is just cowardice, not concern.
Anonymous No.24735705 [Report] >>24735709
>>24735702
I am sorry that you're retarded.
Anonymous No.24735709 [Report] >>24735734
>>24735705
and that is that.
either way it's probably tough having a millennial idea of the world in 2025 ... fair play
Anonymous No.24735734 [Report] >>24735744
>>24735709
It is quite hard frankly, apprehending the necessity for population control, and the moral complexities of that problem.
Anonymous No.24735744 [Report] >>24735770 >>24736259
>>24735734
the same moral everest people have been pretending to climb since malthus.
meanwhile, the world has enough resources, the issue isn’t numbers, it’s mismanagement. But let’s all agonise over controlling hypothetical births while ignoring reality.
think you’d struggle to find any serious economist, demographer, policymaker (or billionaire) today who actually treats human extinction via overpopulation as a real, imminent threat. it’s more of a millennial panic exercise.
Anonymous No.24735770 [Report] >>24735796
>>24735744
>bro we totally have infinite resources that can support infinite population growth, the problem is we're just mismanaging them
Ok, cool. Well when you have your solution for properly managing Earth's totally infinite resources let me know. I'd be happy to hear it.
/sarcasm
I am calling you out on your empty overvaluation of human life.
Your pointless preference for exponentially increasing quantity over quality.
And your blind refusal to deal with real problems (like Earth's very preciously finite resources).
Anonymous No.24735796 [Report] >>24735818
>>24735770
https://youtu.be/oO8w6XcXJUs?si=3Ep2j-eg6H5jAGIp&t=884
Anonymous No.24735818 [Report] >>24735835 >>24735855
>>24735796
>he linked me Elon Musk
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.24735835 [Report]
>>24735818
and that is that.
Anonymous No.24735855 [Report] >>24735871
>>24735818
Can you reply to what was said
Anonymous No.24735871 [Report] >>24735905
>>24735855
Only if you summarize it for me, because I'm not watching goylevision
Anonymous No.24735905 [Report] >>24735916
>>24735871
>summariZe
shouldn't be new for you
Anonymous No.24735916 [Report] >>24735953
>>24735905
Elon Musk is a CIA cultivated media plant, and Jimmy Kimmel or whatever the fuck you posted is peak brainrot for goys.
You get the responze you deserve.
Anonymous No.24735953 [Report] >>24735967
>>24735916
bill maher i believe. who in this clip disagreed with elon on the point i'm making and tried to angle the conversation away from his main drive.
Anonymous No.24735967 [Report] >>24735991
>>24735953
Cool. Well if you want to have a conversation about this instead of me making fun of you for posting mainstream tv drivel, go ahead and summarize what you agree with about what Elon Musk was saying there and we can go from there.
You likely won't because you know it's stupid.
This is why you want me to watch Elon Musk saying it, because you're making an appeal to authority, even though he's extremely questionable as an authority on anything of importance (he's a frontman).
Anonymous No.24735991 [Report] >>24735998
>>24735967
how much of hardliner is he if he's disagreeing with the reddit frontier bill maher himself...
but it feels a bit like i'm letting the side down if i kowtow to your idea that there's an important difference between where you pick up information (rather than judging everything/one on their own merits). so i'm not going to tell you.
Anonymous No.24735998 [Report] >>24736037
>>24735991
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.24736037 [Report] >>24736063
>>24735998
what sort of man takes these, though?
to you (surely), and anyone reading this (clearly) it just looks like you're struggling.
Anonymous No.24736048 [Report]
>>24735671
>their civilization ended up getting anally raped by the more virile and conservative Macedonian Greeks
Alexander was a boy-lover.
Anonymous No.24736063 [Report] >>24736106
>>24736037
You are arguing for the untenable, unfettered population growth, because considering any alternatives hurts your feelings.
I am arguing for something uncomfortable that most people don't have the balls to consider because I have considered the consequences of uncontrolled growth.
Of course I am struggling.
I am struggling with the problems of reality.
Wish (You) were too.
Imbecile.
Anonymous No.24736066 [Report] >>24736067 >>24736074
>>24729053
He's not sexy, he's beautiful. There's a big difference.
Anonymous No.24736067 [Report] >>24736081
>>24736066
Why can't he be both?
Anonymous No.24736074 [Report] >>24736081
>>24736066
hard disagree. love always starts off with primal sex, then gets refined and refined. it's ultimately dependent on the body.
Anonymous No.24736081 [Report] >>24736086 >>24736110
>>24736067
Theoretically he could be, maybe I'm too much of a straightoid to describe him as sexy. There's certainly a level of feminine beauty in his appearance which is attractive to me, though.

>>24736074
I guess my point of disagreement is that I do not believe that aesthetic appreciation is inherently sexual. Some people are just alluring to look at. I do not like the idea of gay relations though. My experience of it IRL has been bad. It's gross.
Anonymous No.24736086 [Report] >>24736176 >>24736267
>>24736081
>I do not like the idea of gay relations though
being attracted to cute boys =/= gay
Anonymous No.24736106 [Report] >>24736468
>>24736063
i deliberately didn't include (You) to be nice, obviously i see it's a stretch now, but i thought there was some sort of unwritten agreement there.
anyway, anyone who's read a university textbook in the last ten years will side with me so...
Anonymous No.24736110 [Report]
>>24736081
>I do not believe that aesthetic appreciation is inherently sexual. Some people are just alluring to look at. I do not like the idea of gay relations though. My experience of it IRL has been bad. It's gross.
believe there's a shakespeare quote expressing the exact opposite
Anonymous No.24736176 [Report] >>24736250
>>24736086
Perhaps this is true, can you elaborate?
Anonymous No.24736250 [Report] >>24736257 >>24738196
>>24736176
Compared to boys, women are:
>taller
>more hirsute
>more robust
>less gracile
>heavier
>more odorous
>darker complexion
>higher testosterone levels
>hysterical, obnoxious, groidical personality
>less demure
>less Aryan
>manlier voices
>more pronounced facial features; more prominent maxilla; lower gonial angle; higher nasomental angle, etc.
>nowhere near as beautiful or cute
>less viscous hair
>imperfect skin; enlarged pores; covered in cellulite and acne
>disgusting, hairy, testosterone enlarged genitalia which exudes nasty fluids

They're basically cavemen compared to boys. They are men with mammaries. They have to shave their legs and cake themselves in makeup to deceive men into thinking they're attractive, whereas boys exhibit natural, careless beauty.

The truth is, women are not beautiful. They secrete certain pheromones and display signals that make men sexually aroused, but there is nothing beautiful about them. If men lacked the biological mechanisms which made them respond to women with sexual arousal, nobody would delude themselves into thinking they were beautiful. Being attracted to them is a fertile form of homosexuality.

It is much less gay to be attracted to boys than it is to be attracted to women.
Anonymous No.24736257 [Report] >>24736260
>>24736250
Are girls (as opposed to women) inferior to the boy still?
Anonymous No.24736259 [Report] >>24736276
>>24735744
this is what overpopulation look like
Anonymous No.24736260 [Report] >>24736263 >>24738196
>>24736257
Yes.
Anonymous No.24736263 [Report]
>>24736260
This is where I lose you
Anonymous No.24736267 [Report] >>24736282 >>24736298
>>24736086
This is true. Appreciation of the male form, and being drawn to the beauty of youth in an aesthetic sense has in itself little to do with sexual attraction. It is not that eroticism is bad in essence, but that platonic contemplations rise above carnal affinities because of the clarity of thought which they are contingent upon. Generally speaking, true aesthetic appreciation can only arise from a cogent mind attuned to the subtilities of being, an intellect at peace with itself and unclouded by the primal unruliness of passion.
Anonymous No.24736276 [Report]
>>24736259
if only sixth form geography were taught through twitter webms i’d be so much cleverer
Anonymous No.24736282 [Report] >>24736298 >>24736317 >>24737702
>>24736267
when i was 17 and basically a twink, i got trapped into a conversation with an actual pedophile high on meth. and when i was like ‘er i don’t think im really into other boys’ this is almost exactly what he said to me
Anonymous No.24736298 [Report] >>24736305 >>24736317
>>24736267
>>24736282
>But at this point disciples of Socrates can resurrect that wonderful argument by which boys' ears as yet incapable of perfect logic are deceived, though those whose minds have already reached their full powers would not be led astray by them. For they affect a love for the soul and, being ashamed to pay court to bodily beauty, call themselves lovers of virtue. This often tempts me to cackle with laughter. For what is wrong with you, grave philosophers, that you dismiss with scorn what has now long given proof of its quality, and has witnesses to its virtue in its becoming grey hairs and its old age, whereas all your wise love is captivated by the young though their reasonings cannot yet decide to what course they will turn? Or is there a law that all ugliness should be thought guilty of viciousness but that the handsome should automatically be praised as good?
— Lucian, Amores
https://people.well.com/user/aquarius/lucian-amores.htm

Response?
Anonymous No.24736305 [Report] >>24736314
>>24736298
>Or is there a law that all ugliness should be thought guilty of viciousness but that the handsome should automatically be praised as good?
Unironically, yes.
Anonymous No.24736314 [Report] >>24736321
>>24736305
Elaborate?
Anonymous No.24736317 [Report]
>>24736282
>>24736298
I guess most people really are incapable of separating the distanct appreciation of beauty and its actual appropriation by the subjective ego. Fair enough, the vantage point of sublime inquiry is and will prove enough for my exiled soul
Anonymous No.24736321 [Report] >>24736325
>>24736314
I think it speaks for itself. The beautiful is a metaphysical emanation of the good just as the ugly is a metaphysical emanation of the evil. The dichotomy transcends all non-dualities and is self-evident to any a well-formed soul.
Anonymous No.24736325 [Report]
>>24736321
>The beautiful is a metaphysical emanation of the good just as the ugly is a metaphysical emanation of the evil
Do you have any evidence that this is true?
Anonymous No.24736468 [Report]
>>24736106
What makes (You) think you deserve to be treated nicely?
Universities in the last 10 years have become anti-fact gender affirming shitholes.
Anyway, good goy. Trust the science (and by that I mean the authority figures representing the predominant oligarchy as opposed to actual observation or science).
Also be sure to get triple vaxxed.
/sarcasm
Anonymous No.24737702 [Report]
>>24736282
So did he convert you into becoming a gaylord?
Anonymous No.24737968 [Report] >>24737984 >>24738279
How would the Greeks react to Asians or Hapas?
Anonymous No.24737984 [Report] >>24738002
>>24737968
I'm in love with him! So cute!!!
Anonymous No.24738002 [Report] >>24738279 >>24738384
>>24737984
He is godlike with long hair.
Anonymous No.24738009 [Report]
shut the fuck up fags
this thread has gone on far too long
Anonymous No.24738184 [Report]
>>24730631
It’s literally in Herodotus. Some guy jokes about how his boytoy will get pregnant (he started an insurrection and killed the guy).
Anonymous No.24738196 [Report]
>>24736250
Bas
>>24736260
Ed.
Anonymous No.24738198 [Report]
When I was 15 years old I went to a local arthouse cinema showing of this movie. The theatre was filled with grown men. I was the only underaged person in the theatre. Felt kinda weird. I think some guys were into me.
Anonymous No.24738279 [Report]
>>24737968
>>24738002
Stop posting gross old men.
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk No.24738369 [Report]
>>24731840
>They were to the Greeks
>>To a Boy: Your condition is rather delicate, and it’s because, I am sure, your sandal pinches; new leather, you know, is quite likely to cut into flesh that is tender. That is why Asclepius readily heals wounds received in war and hunting and all such accidents, but neglects these others because of the voluntariness of the action—as due to indiscretion rather than to a god’s capricious malevolence. Why then don’t you walk barefoot? What grudge have you against the earth? Slippers and sandals and top-boots and shoes are for the wearing of invalids or the aged. Philoctetes, at any rate, is pictured in such protective garb—because he was lame and ill. But the philosopher from Sinope and the Theban Crates and Ajax and Achilles are pictured as wearing no shoes, and Jason as wearing but one. For the story goes that, when Jason was crossing the Anaurus River, one boot was caught by the mud and held fast under the stream, and so he had one bare foot—not that he deliberately chose to have, but that chance taught him what was best; and he went his way the victim of a salutary robbery. Let nothing come between the earth and your bare foot. Fear not, the dust will welcome your tread as it would welcome grass, and we shall all kiss your footprints. Ο perfect lines of feet most dearly loved! Ο flowers new and strange! Ο plants sprung from earth! Ο kiss left lying on the ground!
>Philostratus, Letter 18
breh
greeks were the original footfags
what an interesting civilization
Anonymous No.24738384 [Report]
>>24738002
Look at that bogged nose. Disgusting.