Thread 24734479

I find myself sympathetic to Tyler. Mormon cult parents, a homophobic society, autistic. And then you have a toxic fascist society that wants to feed him to the wolves.

What other stories are told from the perspective of those hated by an evil blood thirsty corrupt society. I’m aware of the Jesus and the New Testament gospels along with Grendel. Any other suggestions?

Light in August by Faulkner
its about a half white half black man in the deep south in 1900-1930

>>24734479 (OP)
Fat/ugly Civil War larping tradchuds are just salty that the troons and other freaks get the job done instead of sitting around talking about "muh deep state" and "muh guns."

>>24734479 (OP)
Am I the only autist who thinks homosexuality is wrong?

>my twisted world
no not like that!

>>24734499
democrats going mask off has to be one of the most startling unintended consequences of that lmao

>>24734501
Being a homo is weird as hell and should be illegal. One of the few things that islam gets right.

>>24734514
the arab world is so friggen gay tho. usually the more anti-gay sth is the more actually gay it is.

>>24734518
Fair, but the attempt to criminalize and punish homosexuality thru laws should be commended. Its not good for society to openly tolerate harmful stuff like that.

>a toxic fascist society

How young are you? Can't be more than 25. Calling everything fascist is so passe.

>>24734479 (OP)
he was 2 years from becoming financially independent in an engineering job and never needing to talk to his "fascist mormon" parents ever again.
He threw it away just to kill a has been e-celeb who was past his glory days and to fuck a guys ass and LARP as an animal.

>>24734536
if i had to guess i'd say he was failing out, actually i heard he left university and had been attending some shitty "technical college"

>>24734479 (OP)
you are retarded he just go tricked by mossad he is just a stupid goy

>>24734511
Those people don't consider themselves democrat, they probably hate them as much as republicans

>>24734501
I don’t know. I’m always sympathetic to the marginalized of the world. I figure if girls suck dick what does it matter if a guy does. Seems silly to care.

>>24734511
Nearly every single democrat has been spouting conspiracys that he's somehow a white nationalist groyper

>>24734501
no it's obviously wrong
>>24734579
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4SjM0oabZazWC1SRmN0WXVpYkE/view?resourcekey=0-mEl0wIXhM8qd4ieiCuosvQ

It destroys the ability to act rationally or morally and ends in violence, homosexual themselves are acts of violence that destroy the persons body and taking pleasure in it makes you emotionally attached to violence. Sexual acts are deeply bonding as they are orientated towards procreation and raising children so it's necessary they create strong attachment and misuse of those in a violent way contrarty to the structure of the body creates a person who is incapable of acting morally and is deeply violent and contrary to all order and structure.
They are extremely anti-social and destructive to themselves, their partners (of which there are probably hundreds) and society.

>>24734531
Only President more fascist is Lincoln and that was partially justified. How is that not obvious? Do you even know what facisim is?

>>24734584
Universally ban sodomy and now homosexuality is much safer

>>24734588
this is actually true id get behind this, no pun intended

>>24734584
You should read up on stereotyping and generalization as well as other logical fallacies.

If you were born in 1850, you’d make a great writer for a local newspaper in the Deep South.

>>24734618
start with the greeks anon you are current retarded

>>24734499
Underrated point. For a time, the right wing tried to identify itself as the heir to edgy counterculture, but everyone's showing their true nature. The right wing are state-power worshipping good goys and the left wing are deranged lunatics, as it always was.

>>24734499
yeah that's why they never target any epstein associated people or actually rich/powerful bankers or anyone that actually matters, and NEVER do. They literally haven't ever once.
you are retarded if you think this is real and this gay boy wasn't just tricked by some intel agency, the elites are the one who organize these things to take out people who are problems for them.

>>24734499
Yeah. Same thing with them screeching about Occupy Wall Street because a few hyper lefties attached themselves to it even though it was a rare moment where the Beast actually looked shook.

>>24734632
Didn't two of them try to shoot Trump? That's at least more relevant and shooting up random churches and grocery stores, which has been the MO of the right most often.

>>24734632
This is one of the reasons why this crime is maybe the most interesting of the century so far. So many angles with numerous literary connections.

1. How was he manipulated? First by religious, cultish, MAGA parents. Then by the Internet and then his boyfriend. I think The True Believer by Eric Hoffer is required reading here.

2. How this is politically exploited by the ruling class to erode free speech and to scapegoat trans and other marginalized people. See “On Power” by Jouvenal

3. The role our government is subverted by Israel, Russia and others.

4. How society always wants a scapegoat. In my opinion Tyler has more Christ like similarities than Kirk. That’s the irony. God literally let him succeed.

>>24734479 (OP)
My brother in Christ, you are spending too much time on the internet. Real people are nothing like the caricatures you see on social media. Also, go back to church. It’s good for you.

>>24734647
if you think trump is the "elites" I can't help you
>>24734661
it's basically just israel that's all you need to focus on
>lets them expand anti-semite persecution and undermine the first amendment under the guise of reprisal on the left
>threatens anyone who stands against them invading iran which they need to do on short notice

again acting like he was manipulated by cultish maga parents is insane, dude's been plugged into the internet since he was 12.
You can't understand the practical aspects of how he was encouraged to do this by intel agencies without understanding the fundamental moral issues of sexual deviancy
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>>24734584
By making people give habitually into lust and deviant sexual stuff like he was known to it makes them very easy to manipulate externally, due to the internal disorder that creates, alienation from his inherited culture/parents, and the "overruling" over the rational faculties by his sense appetites (this is the primary impact of homosexual acts) which basically is the perfect concoction for someone retard to get manipulated by some intel agency to do something which ruins his life and only serves to help the elites

his parents being more cultish and religious fanatics would probably have helped him and kept him off the internet and the sexual abuse of that early exposure to pornography and grooming (which is the norm in gay/furry online circles)

>>24734499
>tradchuds target politician and ceos
>leftists lib trannies with jewish ancestry target catholic schools
lol

>>24734748
>if you think trump is the "elites" I can't help you

>>24734626
>The right wing are state-power worshipping good goys and the left wing are deranged lunatics, as it always was.
this shit literally flips every election when the president changes from democrat to republican, every fucking time.
>goergu bush jr bad for iraq, patriot act
>obongo good man for extending patriot act, involvement in syia/yemen/libya, hospital bombings

>>24734816
yes he is their slave im aware

>>24734661
>In my opinion Tyler has more Christ like similarities than Kirk. That’s the irony. God literally let him succeed.
You're deranged. Comparing a tranny-fucker to God (Or just in bad faith).

>>24734584
I had a diagnosis 35 years ago (im 43) and I never considered trooning or going gay. Chicks are a headache but id rather stick my meat in minge over taking it up the ass.

>>24734847
Maybe. I however, I think if he told his parents he was gay and they replied by saying “I will always love you” this never would have happened.

The reason for the comparison to Christ is the idea of loving everyone contrasted with the most vocal who want to crucify him (conservative Christians). Nobody is perfect but Kirk’s messaging was not inclusive or Christ like much of the time.

Some Christians have a more fire and brimstone outlook, but I think there are a lot of lessons here that frankly most supposed Christians are not following.

>>24734499
A neonazi shot up a school literally the same day kirk got shot. Stop fucking trying to bait people into violence you retarded MORON.

>>24734872
>Loving everyone
>Christ-like
A killer of an unviolent head of familly.
The guy who was simply asking people "to prove him wrong".
The disproportion is jarring.

Again. I don't think you're in good faith.
You mix not killing you for being gay with not calling out your wrongdoings.
We don't need any more "rainbow-churches". Thanks.
This is not tolerance, but giving entrance to Evil in a holy place.

>>24734661
>In my opinion Tyler has more Christ like similarities than Kirk.
Actually delusional.

>>24734661
>In my opinion Tyler has […] Christ like similarities
bait used to be believable

>>24734936
>bait used to be believable
/thread

>>24734936
Not really but if you stare into his eyes long enough they’ll stare back at you.

im just here for the lolz
fuck the world ill just read a book

>>24734479 (OP)
It is a really moving love story but I don't think anybody has ritten it yet.

Sometimes I wish I lived on a different planet amongst a race of a higher fiber than this one.

>>24734479 (OP)
Do you even know what fascism is?

My diary.

>>24734585
if you think Trump is a fascist then you've been captured by the same lunatic cult that created the Trump shooters and the guy who shot Kirk.
If you own guns, get rid of them, for your own safety as well as the safety of others. I don't want to see reports of someone shooting up their "fascist" local church or whatever the next time I check the news.

>>24734479 (OP)
It really is sad, mormonism is probably the fakest religion out there and if you're smart enough to realize it's fake you either commit to the lie and climb the ranks or lose your entire support network.
Combine that with being a phone-addicted zoomer who sees Charlie Kirk constantly because billions of dollars are spent astroturfing his videos, which spirals into genuine fame because shitflinging in the comments = engagement = more money to big tech.
He was an animal in a cage, I feel the same way about Luigi Mangione and Timothy McVeigh. Your conditions make you so neurotic you're foeced to take some big heroic action to assert your existence to some entity that seeks to control you.

>>24734479 (OP)
I find him one of the least sympathetic assassins ever. A brain fried zoomer memefag degenerate that took out a completely retarded choice of target and did nothing but massively damage his "side." Deserves the BBC in prison.

>>24735551
I jsut want him and Lance to be happy together.

>>24734501
Apparently tradlarpers need to be told they don’t have to suck cock. In fact you think you need the government to actively prevent you from spreading your asscheeks. Fascinating.

>>24734821
And the end result of the fake left/right button pushing is somehow consistently leading to more government overreach and centralization of powers in a presidential role that’s closer to a king every cycle. And yet people fall for “well THEY did all this bad shit so now we have to assume more powers and force everyone even harder” every time.

>>24735545
You left out, of course, the discord leftist pipeline that ultimately drove him to kill someone he perceived as "hateful". Which is fine, your narrative has no room for anything from that side of the isle possibly being one of the, if not the, largest contributing factor in his descent into insanity.
How's the script evolved over the week? He was "based", he should do Elon next, he was actually a groyper, Kirk deserved it as the consequences of spreading "hate", it's hypocritical that people lose their jobs for spreading "hate", and now... it's the mormons' fault? Interesting.
I live in a place that's majority LDS. That's what Mormons call themselves. I grew up here. And what I've seen and experienced just goes to show that the Mormons aren't actually the cartoon characters that exist in the minds of people looking in from the outside. It isn't a rigid system, it's a bunch of lanky white people trying to dance to hip-hop music during their summer kids' camps.
They aren't the hateable punching bags you think they are, they're just people. Like Charlie. And that need to differentiate, to make people into something else, is exactly what leads mentally unstable discord leftists like the shooter to doing what he did. And when the needle shoots that icy, viscous venom into his arm as he lays strapped down and helpless, like a trapped animal about to be slaughtered, he'll look at his distraught, saddened parents outside the execution chamber and see forgiveness in their eyes. It'll be the last thing he sees, because unlike the internet hate machine, those Mormon parents you've been probably taught to hate still have love to give.
You'll deny this, hate reading this, want to spin this into a "my tribe vs the other tribe" thing. I'm not political. And when I read about crazies lashing out on some innocent father because the internet twisted his desire to do good into a weapon of evil, I only end up more relieved that I got out of the hate competition that is modern politics. I suggest you do the same.

>>24735587
Bruh this yarn you're spinning is totally tangential to what the dude you're replying to said. This is more a response to whatever conjectural nonsense it made you think of than the post itself. You're either not smart or totally intellectually dishonest or both. All you've presented is hysterical rambling that aestheticizes the execution of a guy whose actions you're unsubtly casting as an instantiation of the evils of whatever political project the "discord leftist pipeline," is meant to represent. I don't think the guy you replied to is really correct, especially with the silly stereotyping about mormonism, but it's a way more authentic attempt to grapple with the topic that whatever you're doing. Your preemptive rejection of the obvious political nature what you wrote doesn't mean it isn't exactly the kind of conjecture-based shit-flinging you're claiming disavow.

>>24735587
The issue with LDS (and JW) isn't that their adherents are baying subhumans who are incapable of love, it's that the fundamental precepts of their religions are based on objective falsehoods handed down from dollar store 19th century conmen. In many cases, acknowledging that Smith was a huckster is enough to have your family disown you and throw you to the wolves, it's bound to churn out a few crazies. People have a right to believe what they want, that's the promise of this country, but when there's no guarantee that you can leave your immediate social environment and make an honest living elsewhere it becomes a prison.
Understanding doesn't equal condoning. I also said I understood McVeigh, doesn't mean I support blowing up a daycare. I understand how kids get groomed into nihilistic satanic/nazi cults like 764, one of whom did a mass shooting on the same day Kirk was killed. Honestly, I hated Kirk, I think he was a Con Inc grifter who wanted to exacerbate the same conditions that created his shooter by privatizing the remaining new deal state and replacing it with religious institutions like the LDS church. I still think assassinating him was a cosmically stupid way to throw away the short life you get to live on this earth.
Our current way of life is antithetical to any kind of authentic individual freedom. We have no social safety net, no regulation on mind-altering social media algorithms that we don't fully understand. Our society is a zero sum game where we get our rocks off by trying to get the other political side fired from their job, throwing them to the wolves. Nobody is winning, nobody is happy. Even the bastards with billions of dollars in free low interest rate money printer silicon valley equity spend their free time scrolling the same dogshit social media sites as the fucking homeless people.
This post >>24735567 is the truth beyond the zero-sum partisan team sports game. The problem during Biden was 'anti-government' (jan6) actors and "conspiracy theorists", now it's antifa trannies. Bush created the GWOT, Obama used it to solidify the doctrine that the Executive branch could designate anyone on the planet a national security threat and kill them with a drone strike. The result of every changing of the guard is the empowerment authoritarian interests and more blank checks to Israel.

>>24735658
Try making your posts more consise, I'm not even sure where to start with you here. Maybe take some of the emotion out of it, I'm sure there's a response buried under all the algorithm-friendly terminology you threw at me in what I can only assume was a common internet tantrum. Work on it and get back to me.
>>24735780
I get what you're saying, and it seems we agree for the most part, but going into "objective falsehoods" when it comes to religion is just silly. Either you hold the Mormons to a different standard than, say, Islam or Buddhism, in order to better rationalize an underlying bigotry against the group, or you're just being deceptive here. No religion can really be verified, that's kinda the point of the whole faith thing. If you think all religions are the result of "objective falsehoods" that's fine, it just comes across in your post like mormons specifically believe in falsehoods, as opposed to, say, jews or scientologists.
There's a lot of nice mormons out there and you should try to meet them. The whole "throw you to the wolves" bunk is really just the kind of hysteria that blows around on reddit, getting spun in different ways as an attention-grabbing stereotype is crafted. Remember, Nazis don't hate for shits and giggles, they hate because of the "reasons" they have to hate. They found ways to rationalize being the "good guys", fighting evil. They kind of think like you. And me, and everyone else. That's the scary thing about it, I guess.
Also, again, totally agree with the whole algorithm-tech-government-hellscape thing, been saying myself since Obama or even before. It's a real nightmare, playing on the quantified emotions of people who've been stuck into internet boxes and made to spiral for the sake of engagement. Maybe some newfound social philosophy will take over, maybe we'll just tear each other apart because the machines told us to.
Ether way, it's rough, and just about universal.
That said, the new deal was a scam, bro. Don't care about the LDS church, I'm not a Mormon, but fucking Carl's Jr can do a better job at managing things than the new deal, that shit's done irreparable damage to California already.

>>24734479 (OP)
>toxic
If anything is toxic its trannycords.

What good can come from grouping together a bunch of 88% incidence of personality disorder folks?
Obviously you cant ban it just for trannys, but having private siloed anonymous social media hubs/echo chambers for people to amplify each others mental illnesses in is not a good thing for society.

>>24735899
The recent drama with indie rock singer d4vd grooming a tweenage girl and then murdering her while his discord fans knew and kept it a secret is really illustrative of the average discord experience.

>>24734479 (OP)
I think the left is just getting its well-deserved censorship and cancelfag payback, but can we all agree that Rep. Troy Nehls (SHABBOS-TX) saying Kirk would've been the 13th disciple... is a bit much? Even Patel was looking at him like "wtf is this retard doing?"

>>24734479 (OP)
Mishima chads we win again

>>24735960
Yeah, the mask slipped when they started cheering for political killings. The left is going through its alt-right phase right now, ever since Kamkam lost hard it's been crazy watching the "party of empathy" act like the kinds of self-righteous psychopaths they saw the right as in 2016.
Looneys gonna looney, just send their weird ramblings over to their employers and move on.

>>24735899
people used to act like 4chan was the most toxic concentration of wackos on the internet, but we're old hat now compared to the insane nutjobs festering on discord.

>>24735960
the funniest thing is all the dems now seething about kimmel getting cancelled by nbc who cheered when rosanne was cancelled by nbc. i'd post some twitter screencaps but you can just find them on that trump forum.

>>24735554
Lance wants Chad, and Tyler was too much of a simp so he killed Kirk to impress lance who was starting to get the ick

ngl, at this point I just want to see the violence ramp up and as many of you faggots to die as possible.
I won't be participating, of course.

>>24736115
>I won't be participating, of course.
you will probably be having gay sex

>>24734511
Everyone's been trying to tell Kirk to shut the fuck up. Mouth pieces like Kirk get killed for the spectacle.

>>24734499
I'm guessing by the number of replies that this post struck a nerve.

>What other stories are told from the perspective of those hated by an evil blood thirsty corrupt society.
Almost every classic story covers the same theme

>>24734579
>don’t know. I’m always sympathetic to the marginalized of the world
How can you realistically say homos are marginalized in america? The ceo of apple is an open gay man. The secretary of transportation and presidential candidate was gay. How is that in any way the fringes of society?

>>24734872
>Christ is the idea of loving everyone contrasted
Christ was not about loving everyone and allowing people to bum trannies. He had a well defined concept of morality such as when he chastised the Samaritan woman at the well for being a whore.