Thread 24785880

>>24785880 (OP)
Yeah very tired, old boring themes. His entire style is like a series of Reddit "thats deep" posts strung along indefinitely.

>>24785880 (OP)
>>24786020
seems like some of y'all niggas need reminding from time to time

>>24785880 (OP)
Yeah, obviously.

>>24786020
That seems to be the "in" thing. Knausgård, Fosse, McCarthy etc. Forever run along sentences that drop a million superficial bombs of depth on you but when interrogated further seemingly lacking any real sustenance. I'm not sure where it developed from but I suspect it's something to do with postmodernity and specifically digital media. Everything has to be transient, superficial, and brief. Something "new" around ever corner that never stops coming but of course at the cost of real depth and skill. Quantity over quality par, capital's perfected formulation.

Where's the lie?

>>24785880 (OP)
big if true.

>>24786072
Digital media exposed the pseuds, true. No need to publish a novel word salad to communicate something a 6 second tiktok can with an interpretive dance. That's why the surviving quote isn't long winded word salads are the soul of wit.

>>24786072
>lacking any real (((sustenance)))
You're a retarded midwit redditor

>>24786124
Terminally online autismo meltdown

I mean...he's not wrong. Actual Fascism is very, very bad, which led to a destruction of multiple economies and an entire continent. It should be thrown in the gutter and never looked at again.

>>24785880 (OP)
Sebald praised this guy so I'm going to read him.

Does anyone know any other more recent authors that are similar? By recent I mean the last 40 years or so.

>>24786140
somebody get this chud a nobel prize in literature

>>24786140
As far as I know it takes two sides to get a continent destroying war

>>24786151
A peace prize actually. No competition this year anyways.

>>24786160
>have you considered laying down and dying instead
For some reason not many takers when a fascist pulls up.

>>24786140
Fascism is actually peaceful, it's the "democratic" states always pushing for war with them that causes conflict.

>>24785880 (OP)
Is that Fisher Stevens?

>>24785880 (OP)
So Depp

damn this guy REALLy hates orban you can literally see the venom oozing from his gratitude and polite disagreement

>>24786604
I like some of his books, but, bro, you were intimate friend and even lived with Ginsberg for years when he was going full NAMBLA. You don't get to be moralistic about politics.

>>24786667
Ginsberg was not the leader of a nation state.

>>24786688
No, because he didn't represent very many people, as his views were seen by most as abhorrent.

>>24786604
Why say anything at all?

>>24785880 (OP)
> fascism is le based and redpilled

>>24786717
its almost like orban isn't doing anything to stop him from writing or saying what he wants

>>24786604
He and Orban were on the same side in 1989 when melancholy was released. Don’t listen to his modern Twitter ramblings.

>>24786020
I have no idea how he became as popular as he is on this board, if you listen to his interviews in Hungarian, he sounds like someone who mentally stopped aging at like 20 and never developed a sense against vaguely convincing-sounding juvenile bogus profundities. He's like a Shelley in that way. It's the most apparent in his books about China and Japan, dude has an even worse understanding of the orient than fucking Hesse did.

>>24786725
Shalom

>>24786843
His masterpiece is a pro-agnosticism or pro-deism probably book which is also strongly anti-communist. Anything else he wrote doesn’t interest me.

>>24786725
any writer like that?

>>24786857
I wish americans stopped lecturing others about what authors writing in languages they don't speak a word of thought about.

>>24786867
Koszonom! Me too.

I’ve lost all faith in the Nobel Prize for Literature. It is meaningless. I’ve long hoped Pynchon would win it, but that hardly matters anymore. The prize has been hijacked by political correctness, and perhaps being excluded from that list is, in the end, a greater honor.

>>24786020
>>24786072
You didn't read them. The only book that can deserves this criticism is Solenoid.

>>24786941
>implying Pynchon is a chud

Real N-words know that awards in the humanities almost always reward mediocrity and conformism rather than quality. Winning too many awards is a sign of an unoriginal, cowardly, establishment-approved author.

>>24786970
You mean niggers?

>>24786861
Heinlein Starship Troopers

>>24786604
That's a FAKE ACCOUNT.

>>24786072
>superficial bombs of depth on you but when interrogated further seemingly lacking any real sustenance
Can you show me an example of where this does not apply?

>>24787069
Starship Troopers is fascist? How?

>>24787331
Book of the New Sun.
The Brothers Karamazov.
Decline of the West.

>>24786604
>this guy REALLy hates orban
as does anyone else with a brain

>>24787507
No one with a brain knows who Orban is

You know the Nobel is explicitly politically motivated? It's not really a secret. If you believe a prize winner got it for ideological reasons or because of some kind of cultural activism and not purely on the quality of their work, well, maybe so, but we don't claim differently, so what is there to be mad about?

>>24786861
Junger.

>>24786852
Jews are fascists.

>>24785880 (OP)
Are you saying that cause the Celine gigachad guy character claimed to be the kind of libertarian who could get along with both communist, pacifist, and fascist?

>>24786140
>angloamericans give mongoloids free money weapons and whole factories (look it up) to destroy europe
>Actual Fascism is very, very bad, which led to a destruction of multiple economies and an entire continent.

>>24788315
Confirmed to have never read Junger
Anybody conflating an Autarch with a Dulce or Führer has either 80 IQ or solely gets his information through Twitter summaries
>t. titanpilled

>>24788394
Only the Zionist ones.

>>24786072
>and brief

whatever this pseud thinks he's on about, at least we know he's never read karsznahorkai

>>24786072
This post really pissed off the pseuds

>>24789672
you don't have to have read any of these authors to notice the internal inconsistencies of this critique

>>24785880 (OP)
fascism is the way

>>24789711
another

>>24789714
moar

>>24789711
What is this format? And people say there's no such thing as a red-brown alliance

>>24789711
>>24789714
>>24789718
very interesting

>>24785880 (OP)
>I am...jewish?

>>24786140
What economic system has not led to crises and wars?

>>24786941
Pynchon isn't better and he is a libtard anyway.

>>24789776
clik file name
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>>24791011
>kek

>>24786140
Fascism happens in times of economic depression. Economic depression makes people desperate and makes them lose faith in the establishment. For us it was 2008. It’s like a moment of rage. You give platform to a demagogue, strips people off their rights, gets rid of the constitution and you lose basically all your rights. Your entire existence will be due to chance and not being eaten by the state machine just yet.

>>24785880 (OP)
>fascism is le...bad?
One problem with it is that it results in death of a lot its adherents. I suppose that's the point though.

It depends on how you look at it.

I'm not saying this to be one of those typical left-wing people who are like "follow your leader" with a meme of Hitler blowing his brains out, or gloating about dead German soldiers in World War II. I don't think that was a good thing. All that stuff about "destiny" and some cosmic, emotional experience in warfare led up to what in reality was pretty horrific. Honestly if you want to discover some greater truth in that, go buy some meat and dump it on the sidewalk in the hot sun and stare at it. That's what happened to all of those people. I suppose some people find it beautiful. I think the reality is that it's just meat on the sidewalk.

>>24786950
ESL.

>>24785880 (OP)
I like his novels but I thought each one I read was worse than the previous.

>>24785880 (OP)
Art is humanity’s extraordinary response to the sense of lostness that is our fate. Beauty exists. It lies beyond a boundary where we must constantly halt; we cannot go further to grasp or touch beauty – we can only gaze at it from this boundary and acknowledge that, yes, there is truly something out there in the distance. Beauty is a construction, a complex creation of hope and higher order.

>>24788856
Only the zionists are the problem.
So yes, fascism/nationalism is very le bad.

>>24792716
>Jews are the real nazis
How original