Thread 24790704

Life is a gift from God, but it always comes with suffering. Knowing this, only those still grateful are worthy of it, while the ungrateful worship death.

>>24790704 (OP)
I didn't ask

>>24790705
Yes, you did. Or don’t you remember?

>>24790708
I am slowly remembering. Do you?

>>24791267
Yes, absolutely.

>>24791664
What do you remember?

>>24790704 (OP)
correct. the point is resilience. what is beauty? it's symmetry, order, completeness. it's invariance under transformation, resilience. you arrive in the world as a child, you should leave it as a child. in that way, you mirror that which is eternal and unchanging.

>>24790704 (OP)
Had a similar thought today. While being severely depressed, I will continue to be pro-life. Life itself is suffering, but handling that is the task one is born for. Don't ask God for a lighter load, ask for broader shoulders

>>24790704 (OP)
And what if a polytheist sees the use of suffering?

>believes in monotheistic desert tribe death cults like Christianity
>pro-suffering
I ridicule your entire sociopathic existence.

>>24791849
>ego
Okay.

>>24791842
And how do you "handle it"? Do you continue to hound after pleasure and comfort like a mindless animal?

>>24790704 (OP)
Why can't you and a host of people suffer more instead? Why do you avoid it like the plague and cling to your meaningless pleasures like a bunch of hedonists? Why do you prevent other people, overflowing with pain, from distributing this beneficial experience unto others?

>>24792044
Checked.

Trying to educate and better myself, working out body and mind. Using the self-hatred as drive to strife for being better than yesterday. Becoming the best version I can realistically be. If it won't be enough in the end, I at least tried ¯_(ツ)_/¯

And how do you handle your negativity, my brother in Christ?

-0MGYR

>>24790704 (OP)

One cod come up with a very cynical response to this copium but how does it matter? If life is futile then it's futile universally. Might as well cope yourself into finding some value in it.

>>24792211
>One could

>>24790704 (OP)
Life is good for you if you have minimum 2 out of 5 things (health, money, good family&friends, power, beauty) otherwise suffering simulator

>>24790704 (OP)
If you actually cared about your proposition, you would have put at least some effort into arguing for it.
Why should the reader care about your proposition if you don't?
Get off /lit/ and read a book.

>>24791842
God bless you. I’ve also thought about what life is. Non-living thing don’t resist decay, but life resists decay by expending energy. Therefore, life is struggle itself, war itself, and if we are thankful to God we should fight to our utmost to further life (through having families, and raising children to know God as well).

>>24792211
You may believe that life is futile because you are an atheist (in which case you should be given a justification for belief in God) or because you’re living in sin (in which case you should pray to God for the strength to fight evil desires). I am not a Christian, Christians wish to escape life suffering through the gates of death, which is life denial and ungratefulness.

give me one reason i shouldn't rope rn

>>24792049
The aim of life is not suffering, suffering is the test of worthiness for the good in life.

>>24793496
Because it would be better to thank God with all your heart for the suffering in your life.

>>24793506
cope

>>24793509
Despair is the ultimate cope. When someone is too afraid to fight for the good in life, they use despair to justify it. I’m not joking anon, bow to the ground and force yourself to say the words “ Thank you God for the suffering in my life. Thank you for the good in my life, and thank you for the good you’ve given others.”

>>24793515
lol gay

>>24793515
Replace the escapism of despair with action. First, the action of prayer, every morning and evening. Then, do all the necessary steps to be able to raise a family.

what did the ancient greeks say about suffering? especially the real old homer tier ones not that nerdy post socrates ones

>>24790705
I did ask
>>24790708
I do remember and you gave the same stupid bullshit answer last time and here we are again. What gives OP?

>>24793529
How can the right answer be stupid? Life is a gift from God, life is war, suffering in war is the test of worthiness for God’s gift. Those who are thankful worship life and fight with all their strength. Those who are ungrateful worship death and decay into the ground.

>>24793522
ok maybe, keep preaching maybe ur getting somewhere, i'm getting old tho don't have much time left to have a kid, is it over for me or what

>>24793533
I’m quite familiar with the definition of insanity and since your advice last time brought me back here I think I’m good. Nice try demon.

>>24793538
In the time that you do have left, do whatever would be necessary to start a family, and cut out any sinful actions that would prevent it (especially despair, despair is a tool of evil to prevent you from obtaining future goods).

If you take all the appropriate actions, and are still unable to have a child, then adopt and care for orphans. If you cannot do that, then devote yourself, all your strength and wealth and effort, into caring for your broader racial family. If you do that, there is no shame on you, and God will look favorably on you.

>>24793543
I don’t know what last time you’re referring to. You are making conndctions where there are none.

>>24793551
thanks bro i woke up this morning and looked for this thread cuz u uplifted me, recommend me some reading and don't say like the bible or quran or some shit, i mean ok, but give me sth less obscurantist, i want to fight despair not try to parse weird parables know what i mean?

>>24792197
>self-hatred as drive
Why do you hate yourself anon? Genuine question

>>24794207
probably has as shitty personality

>>24794207
Honestly? Because I feel like I am not good enough, and never will be. I am depressed and have been so since early youth, even though objectively I am better off than at least 95% of all humans, and should not have any reason to complain. This is like a negative feedback loop, feeling not good enough and then feeling guilty for not feeling good enough.

>>24794232
And this here, I guess.

>>24792211
>The wise have eyes in their heads,
>while the fool walks in the darkness;
>but I came to realize
>that the same fate overtakes them both.

>Then I said to myself,

>“The fate of the fool will overtake me also.
>What then do I gain by being wise?”
>I said to myself,
>“This too is meaningless.”
>For the wise, like the fool, will not be long remembered;
>the days have already come when both have been forgotten.
>Like the fool, the wise too must die!

>>24794723
Search an author called Jon Peniel