Thread 24802011

Chaotic Anons Worship The Slop Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels
rentry.co/d2yvczro

Anon's guide to success
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ
rentry.co/pytefpxn

If you LOVE Black Company and kino like ASOIAF should read FFF Unlucky Class Antagonist!

>>24802011 (OP)
So the writing of these are garbage right?

>>24802017
I don't know why, but this cover reminds me of that one internet meme with some streamer smiling

If you want to hear some tough love, it's that you won't succeed as a writer. If writing is the only thing you can do, you are going to fail on your own. Partner up with someone to make something beyond a written story, or learn another skill, coding, drawing, etc. Otherwise you won't make it!

>>24802021
yes
>>24802022
Now that the ritual Visual Novel post is out of the way...

the multiple troll posts as soon as the thread is made either represents genuine retarded opinions masqueraded as half-jokes, or a real infestation of trolls
this thread is cooked either way
it's really not that hard to make a successful web novel but 4chan is full of tards ig

>>24802037
You realize it's all samefagging right?

>>24802015
You call it networking, I call it collective dicksucking. I don't want to interact with people in these big forums. I want niches that I can discuss passionately with people of a similar persuasion. These big servers and discord in general physically repulses me. I joined those big servers to see what I was missing out on, and as it turns out, it was a big, fat, nothing. Fake positivity, eggshells for a carpet, total waste of time. If I want to network, I'm going to DM authors who make something I like or comment on their works. Discord is for snake people and people who work in HR.

>>24802037
>implying that KinoMan isn't just a profoundly autistic auteur, with an emphasis on the 'aut'.
as an aside, what has writing a webnovel felt like to you, anonl, so that you may show the autists in this thread how to do it simply?

>>24802051
>I'm going to DM authors who make something I like or comment on their works.
I bet none of them respond to you lol, you sound schizo

Reminder that if your story:
>has tags on the title
>was written by an ESL
>was written with AI
>Is chasing trends (litRPG, cultivation, capeshit)
I won't be reading or recommending your story
>T. Member of the discord cabal

>>24802015
I'm just super shy and paranoid of mixing the internet and my real life >_<

>>24802087
>I, the noname, won't recommend you and give you 0 followers unless you shoot yourself in the head, stomach, penis, and heart
Good deal

>>24802104
>>24802087

I mean, how exactly do I go back in time to prevent my parents from having me in a non-english speaking country?

>>24802015
I tried Ink for a few months and it was just way too toxic, day in and day out of the same questions being asked every single day, every single hour, and screaming relentlessly into the void. Actually had a couple people straight up tell me off for giving advice to others, that's when I knew I was I Actually it's been bleeding into the RR forums and it just makes you insanely disillusioned. It's the same on SH, on reddit, everywhere. Just so repetitive, like being in call center or working fast food and having to ask the same exact answers to the same exact questions every day, every week. I've been trying another RR discord and it's not as bad. I was invited to some small RR cabal recently and quickly realized how much of a bad idea it is to actually be in cahoots with writers so I left. If you write something incredibly niche and off-meta you're just plain, genuinely fucked. Writing is, and always will be, a solo venture even in the WN sphere. The core fundamental issue is you're interacting with other writers, not readers, they're not going to read your work out of genuine interest. If it was tradpub, at least you may or may not have a editor to work with and that's it. You can't expect anyone to actually read your work if you have to ask, friends online, offline, family, it's you and you alone. Talking about your story with fellow writers is overwhelmingly hardest thing ever to do since it's a wip and frankly you just can't expect anyone to be on the same page as you.

>>24802120
the only value of discords is smoozing to get shoutouts, which i would rather kill myself than do. just run an ad, it's more effective anyway

can any perusers of western wnslop give me a quick rundown of the system/litrpg apocalypse genre?

>>24802131
Read one

>>24802011 (OP)
The picture in the OP is everything I loath about RR.
>Bloated sections of filler
>Slice of life
>Weak main character
>Support class main character
>Working stiff but le other world
Why the fuck would I want to read about someone else's average life when I've already got my own?

>>24802120
Same. Really, Discord's name suits it perfectly. There's better, more genuine interactions here than in these supposedly welcoming communities. I appreciate you guys. You're all real ones.

Now that we have a list of ongoing /wng/ authors, the OP should rotate between their books, especially for the those who are publicly here. Whether or not one of them is mine is irrelevant.

>>24802128
That's what I'm planning once I launch. There's just no good to come from specifically asking others to do shoutouts. It's all just incredibly superficial and readers here and there on the forums and reddit know as much right away when a review isn't genuine. Really this is just all just a grand personal skill issue and all considering I'm not writing litrpg or isekai, so that's already a completely severe handicap pretty much everywhere. I'm still struggling if I want to just ignore serializing altogether and just dump it on KU once I actually get there and finish the story. It's a genuine dilemma since I just want to tell a complete and full story,. This won't make money, I know that much, and I'm hesistant facing the more professional amazon review backlash I may face if I do amazon/KU. And if I finish it and post it on RR and it flops, it's like, what do I do then? Pull the rug and give the readers who actually were interested in it the finger and dump it on KU after the dust settles? Do I spray and pray and just send it to some tradpub house? It's all so super tiresome man. But instead of moping, I'm going to continue writing.

>>24802150
Shoutout swaps aren't review swaps.

>>24802006
>it's not??????????? smut does not sell in the web novel scene. holy fuck how absolutely disconnected from web novels is this thread?
It probably does, just not in the usual places via Patreon bucks. There are a lot of places that have smut stories online and have had them for far longer than the "proper" web novel scene appeared. I'm almost certain that some of them have managed to monetize it. I bet if you wrote furry erotica you'd make money.
The western web novel market seems heavily segmented. RRL and Web Novel seem to cater to very different audiences these days.
>>24802039
>i'm simply stating that for some reason, despite the vast popularity of Overlord showing that a person isekai'd into their OP game character is a good premise; no one in the west ever tried to either ape nor write something adjacent to Overlord.
I think it's because of SAO. People love to hate that story so much that they just stay away from the concept entirely.
If you ever move around the anime or adjacent communities you'll end up with yet another moron commenting about how unrealistic SAO is as a game, even though they themselves have only played WoW-clones and nothing else.

>>24802164
>it probably does
>I'm almost certain
>I bet
yeah sums up this shitty fucking thread. "I feel like" retarded ass posters giving advice to the sad anons who don't know better.
Name some high earner nsfw writers that even remotely compete with sfw writers. Can't? Wow, I fucking wonder why

>>24802150
The point of RR -> KU is that you build a fanbase for free on RR, split into volumes, and then dump on KU: people who find it later and are interested have to read it on KU (or pirate) and then move back to RR for free uploads.

If you don't build an audience on RR I don't think it bodes well for a transition to KU anyway. I find Amazon's discoverability to be fucking horrible. At least on RR between user ads, shoutouts, the rankings/RS, and the little recommendations on the fiction page, there's a chance to be discovered semi-organically. Amazon has reviews and that's about it.

>>24802176
NTA, but come on now. You know for a fact people will throw money at anything that makes their peepee or vajayjay feel good.

>>24802104
I won't post my stories or pen names because the schizos will try to dox me. But I have managed to get my friends to RS with shot-outs and getting them to network with other semi-big authors

>read WN
>thinly veiled asian /pol/ schizo nonsense
>actual finno-korean hyperwar tier terms and whatever
what’s the deal with the schizo chapters or jingoist chapters found in so many xianxia as of late? i just want to read my chinky power fantasy without reading a manifesto about why the japanese are stupid monkeys who deserve nothing but total death; why black people are actually literal demons and evil spirits, and must thus be exterminated; why it is the moral pregorative of every han chinese to lie, steal, and cheat all non-han, and moreover exterminate them as well.

it’s like reading the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, but written by chinks about chinks and it’s haphazardly and suddenly scattered over 1 or 2 chapters in the middle of a 150 chapter arc.

>>24802205
You're larping because you said litrpg and cultivation are trends. Just shut the fuck up already

>>24802208
Picture a Venn diagram made of people with a lot of free, people who are interested in power fantasies, and have nothing going for them except what identity group they belong to

I don't like westernslop writing. Maybe my mind's well has been poisoned by reading too much light novel slop, but I really dislike the millenial style so many authors have on RR. I don't know how to describe it, but it's along the lines of protagonists cursing often, acting faux-logical at times, and a sense of detachment / inability to be genuine

>>24802201
where does she post serially?

>>24802149
>We should turn the OP into an AD
Fuck off, the op image should be the RoyalRoad logo (since this general is basically just that)

>>24802199
i clapped when inferno coppu had a cameo. So beautiful, sasuga trigger.

Interesting.

>>24802150
>I'm not writing litrpg or isekai
What are you writing?

>>24802228
space opera war drama, closet thing would probably be lotgh.

>>24802208
I'd read a Yakub isekai.

>>24802136
I dropped it early , when out of the blue skills got retconned and you needed [cooking] to even manage preparing a basic meal.

>>24802295
I mean.. even in sims 1, you needed to learn bare minimum like 1-3 skills in cooking just so you dont instantly start a stove fire.

>>24802297
Yes but it starting chapters he was cooking and cleaning just fine in the temple. Not to mention thr whole trap crafting thing he did on the first monster that gets invalidated. All system worldbuilding pissed on for some mid slice-of-life chapter.

>>24802297
Most of mankind would die off pretty quick if such a system became real.

Rather than some autistic level system would a webnovel hypothetically have the same appeal if I were to describe in autistic detail the characters martial arts and moves?

>>24802345
What you describe is Wuxia, aka low power level cultivation novel focusing on martial arts movement instead of magic laser. Read Jin Yong novels, he's an absolute god on this genre plus it's genuinely good novels on it's own

>>24802011 (OP)
1. SUMMARIZE YOUR WEBNOVEL (350 characters or less*)
2. WHAT IS ITS MAIN APPEAL? (500 characters or less*)
3. WHAT DIFFERENTIATES IT FROM OTHER WEBNOVELS? (500 characters or less*)

*Including spaces

>>24802345
Most people are not martial artists and most likely the author isn't either, so they get even less out of it than video game systems.

>>24802345
let me guess
>O MY HALFSWORD
>O MY MURDERSTROKE

>>24802354
Galactic war between an ailing democracy and empire rotten with Byzantine affairs
space battles and testing the great man theory
it's not isekai or litrpg

>>24802352
Thank you I will check these out
>>24802355
I am; its legitimately my special interest, which is why I asked.
>>24802357
More like
>O MY MAWASHI GERI
>O MY OMOPLATA
>O MY BULLSHIDO MERIDIANS

>>24802369
so... Star Wars. got it.

If my Webnovel has adventurers, classes and levels, but no System™ or walls of stats, can it still be called a litrpg?

>>24802354
FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist': The Antichrist goes to school and befriends Christ.

>>24802412
Sure. A System means the entire world runs on game mechanics. Levels alone do not require that.

>>24802354
there is an elf that kills people
there is an elf that kills people
there is an elf that kills people

>>24802417
The world runs on ttrpg mechanics, sorta, but it's explained with in-universe world building. Long ago, a dude blew up all the gods, and the divine particles rained down on Earth, becoming part of the environment. In high concentrations they can mutate animals into monsters (who hunt down humans due to the rage the gods felt at the last moment or something), twist spa e into dungeons, and when a human goes through a Traumatic Backstory Event, they form into a mini-shard of a god, giving them special abilities. After that, these shards feed on these divine particles from killed monsters, other adventurers, and, due to the faith nature from people who admire/fear the adventurer, as well as from those for whom he does favors aka quests. And then when enough is accumulated the shard evolves, going through a so-called level up, improving the powers the adventurer has. So my question is, would it be enough to put that litrpg tag without my readers feeling cheated?

>>24802412
Litrpg fans will seethe and rate bomb your work if there aren't stats.

>>24802451
What if one of the side characters can see stats, but nobody else can?

>>24802452
These two (you)s are all I'm willing to spare you, you dumb clown

Why do fantasy authors, especially Japanese ones, do swordfighting in such a stupid way?
The characters are in a world where wizards shoot big ass spells. Melee combatants have skills that let them do physics-defying moves.
And then the author goes "I start with the high stance" (he probably means guard) like guards are going to make any difference when you're dealing with superhuman abilities. Martial arts exists to use levers against your opponent to overpower them (or to catch them off-guard with a strike). This stops mattering when you start shooting energy beams out of your sword. All the Earth martial arts goes out the window when that's the power level.
The new world would have new martial arts that would be appropriate for those conditions, but it shouldn't be the same type of thing we do on Earth. Or it might not have martial arts at that level at all. After all, we don't consider gun shooting a martial art anymore.

>>24802451
The Wandering Inn is doing just fine

>>24802456
????
Why are you mad, I'm just asking a genuine question here?

>>24802435
It'll be fine but if you are that paranoid about it use the gamelit tag instead.

>I'm just asking a genuine question here?
Funny how all the idiots say the same. Or maybe it's one idiot being an idiot all the time. How about suicide soon?

>>24802474
What are you talking about, you schizo?

>>24802457
Presumably even with super strength, up to a certain level, biomechanics still matter, same techniques work, and sword fights would still look like they do in our world, just faster.

>>24802319
And that is a bad thing because?

>>24802137
Fuck you, gaylord, I love you too.

how do i improve my slop writing skill? i've shown my draft to someone who reads webnovels daily and he trashes the fuck out of it calling it boring and no one will read past the first chapter. i didn't show it but it fucking hurts as someone who have dabbled with traditional publishing before. i'm crying bros i really thought i could do it better...

>>24802590
post the first chapter so I can call it boring too

>>24802590
Post it, we will be nice. I pinky swear.

>>24802590
The only way is to read more.

>>24802354
1. Protagonist is reborn as a max level archmage.
2. Seeing the protagonist handle nigh omnipotent power in a real life mmo.
3. It's a max level archmage.

>>24802354
1. Man respawns in isekai and gets strong to fuck every schizobitch that tries to kill the hero of the story.
Ends with hero of the story becoming a girl and MC fucking her/him as well.
2. Bromance, sex, and Bromancesex.
3. I wrote it :)

>>24802590
reread what you liked reading and ask yourself why they wrote each individual sentence, not even joking.

>>24802689
Sounds rather gay, but not the worst kind of gay I can think of.

>>24802106
My dear brother in christ or ramadamadingdong or whatever squamous and rugose fishman octopus thing they worship in your native land, your grasp of the Poet's Tongue has already exceeded that of the bitter refugee from the writing general, and you are welcome in the Land of Eagles and Burgers, more so than any siegheiling pederasts and their limpdick mercenaries. ESL is more of a generalized insult against those who write without having read, revealing their ignorance of the proper turn of phrase every time they try to show off their assumed natural genius. It targets their fundamental insecurities by forcing them to face the fact that they have less grasp of their native language than those who learned it secondhand. It's like when Spiderman did a homophobia against Hulk Hogan in that UFC scene.

>>24802689
I want to read this.

>>24802131
Solo Levelling and Dungeon Crawler Carl are recommended by almost everyone for a reason.
They'll get you familiar with the premise and its tropes. And don't bitch at me that they suck, I know they suck, but if you can't even stand to read the genre, why you think you can make a living writing in it?

>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/131589/water-saint-of-legends-returns
wow look at that it's another MLA ripoff

>>24802131
Formsomemreason a System comesmto earth. Everything gains magic and stats. Portals to otger worlds may or may not appear. For some resson guns and modern army are useless. Thus humanity gets wiped out from the sudden high level threats except for a few individuals (mc included) that manage to level up and survive.

>>24802741
You do know that MLA was hardly the first with that premise right?

>>24802714
I'm not gay but it was inspired from griffith and guts' relationship except I wanted it wholesome this time. it gets me hard thinking about a cautious and hurtful man just melting for another man that truly values him. I'm probably gay and just want something genuine at this point.

I thought mla was an overlord ripoff

>>24802798
Overlord has evil mc. It might look minor to you but most people aren't into that.

>b-but muh RI!
No , shut up

>>24802748
This is the kind of shit I fantasized about when I was 13 and would bore my friends to death with, but of course there was no audience or platform for it THEN

>>24802829
Technicaly Dungeon Crawle Carl is that but it's not a typical system alocalypse story. There is heavy Hunger Games / Running Man influence to it.

>>24802590
You sounds like another /wg/ tradpub autist completely missing the point of webnovels desu, skill issue

>>24802590
Anons who post this and then refuse to include their work should be fired via cannon into the sun. Post your work if you want advice.

>>24802011 (OP)
how do I learn how to write the character physical feelings during sex?
I cannot do it for men nor women.

Lethal Company: The Web Novel.

>>24802951
That would require you to not be a virgin.

>>24802951
Read a book with a sex scene you like and ape it. I just use Neuromancer.

>>24802994
Like a bar of lead.
Fuck the haters, that prose is memorable.

Lads what do we think about a "Bocchi the Rock style" litrpg? And I mean the character dynamics and development not the band stuff.

>>24803031
What in the fuck does that even mean?

bocchi the reddit

>>24803040
I assume you just haven't watched the anime or read the manga yet since I know you can't not know about character dynamics right? In that case what I mean is a female MC with bad social anxiety, a blonde mom-like kind girl, a stoic, kuudere extremely competent girl, and a red haired extremely extroverted girl. Now put all those characters in a litrpg party, that's what I meant. As for character development, you already see the flaws to be fixed with each character--with the MC's being the biggest one--right?

>>24802354
1.- A prince is assassinated by his own people because he sucks, then a megacorp from the future brings him back to life. Highjinks ensue.

2.- Escaping your awful present by making fun of the past and the future. Validating you own feelings about your job.

3.- It reads like a book and not an RPG. You may also accidentally learn history.

>>24803064
I don't see why that dynamic couldn't be translated into a litrpg story, if you want to try? Those character archetypes seem far more suited to a slice of life comedy than a dungeon diving story though lmao

>>24803065
Well? give me a link or at least a fucking title to search, now you've got my interest.
You ain't doritos, sweaty, you gotta namedrop the brand to advertise effectively.

>>24803081
oh yeah, sorry:

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/114439/the-fallen-prince-is-now-a-time-traveler-aeonalize

>>24803078
It's just a classic adventure + killing the demon lords story instead of purely dungeon diving. But that's the real challenge as you said, making characters that seemingly only fit in SoL still have heavy stakes and compelling conflicts. Thanks for the feedback, anon

>>24803096
Absolute kino.

>>24803096
kwab

>>24803096
*wipes tear*

>>24803096
Source? I'm new to the general.

>believe all my life the I'm a pantser
>always get burnt out no matter how much I like what I'm writing
>try out outlining and using a structure once
>writing has never been much easier

I can't believe I completely ignored outlining thinking it wasn't for me. This is literally a game changer

>>24803118
I find it really hard to outline desu. I can't think of plotpoints without just writing. I find when I finish a chapter, my brain offers me a whole slew of options just following the flow of what I've put down. I really wish I could outline better though, because I often write myself into silly corners, or think of much better ideas down the line and have to go back multiple chapters to recheck, and add new stuff to compliment said ideas.

>>24803087
Thank you. I will now read at least some of your story.

>>24803130
let me know if you have suggestions :)

>>24803087
>female lead
No thanks

>>24803112
Pastor Psychosis

>>24803112
Priest of Madness

>>24803156
I'll take the happy meal.

>>24802590
>how do i improve my slop writing skill?
Read. Read. Read. Read like it's going out of style(it is!). There is no other alternative. No, reading your webnovel chink slop doesn't count, neither does light novels, read. more.

>>24803192
>No, reading your webnovel chink slop doesn't count
Reading literature doesn't count, if you're trying to write sloppa. You need to read what you want to write.

>>24802590
If you want to be good at writing you need to read a lot and edit a lot more.
If you want to be succesful at webnovels just get used to consistently writing loads and get vaguely decent at action.

>>24802590
Read and reread Reverend Insanity multiple times.

>>24802590
Even if he doesnt like it, other people will. Publish your work!

>>24802689
If the guy that transforms into a girl is futanari count me in, otherwise, dont bother writing another word. You are a massive closet homosexual, by the way (unlike me, I'm a trur machoman)

>>24803198
Don't think that's true in the slightest. You can improve your craft by reading regular ol' literature alone by sheer Magnitude, but there's nothing wrong with reading webnovels in general(but NOT WebNovel the site), so long as you find ones that are really well polished and good prose to ape. Hell my web novel reading list is several times bigger than my tradpub one at the moment, and if I see the prose is bad or there's too many red flags I just don't read it so it doesn't dilute my style too much.

do /wg/babs not have a thread anymore

why are they all here

>>24803221
Most tried to jump ship once they realize tradpub is a dying pozzed industry and only thing people actually read nowadays is escapism wish fulfillment novels
I know I did

>>24803225
>escapism wish fulfillment novels
Most of these are also pozzed

>>24802136
>>>Support class main character
i like this
better as non-litrpg though

>>24802741
>>24802759
whats MLA?

>>24802208
>why it is the moral pregorative of every han chinese to lie, steal, and cheat all non-han
couldn't care less about the others but MCs that believe in this are based
need more absolute shitbags cheating and backstabbing to the top (and i mean actual cheating not just using overpowered ""cheat skills"")

>>24803245
for some reason this whole time I thought anons were talking about like some search tradpub term but now that I think about it they were talking about max level archmage. for me, it is indeed MEOW.

>>24802420
sold.

>>24803137
yeah, can you post more of her saggy tits, preferably naked and legs spread wide

>>24803216
>will only read if the girl getting fucked is a futasub
you have to really like penis to demand it appears even when it's not getting used

>>24802735
>solo levelling
i haven't seen a single person anywhere rec this in novel form. at most i saw auraslop fans reccing the manhwa

>>24803267
>Not thinking ahead
It would get used when MC fucks the futa fucking a woman, or another futa who's fucking another futa who's fucking another futa who's fucking another futa... making a never ending train of futanari seggs.

>>24803261
Ailill is this you

>>24803275
That's because the only good thing about the story is the artwork.

>>24803287
no, this is patrick.

>>24803290
Is this the Krusty Krab?

>Thread opens with doomer crabs telling everyone to quit
Quit that.

Would you read a story in which the MCs are a dog and cat duo who use toy vehicles and airsoft weapons to fight the vermin and mutants threatening to destroy their owner's farm? In my story
pretty much every animal can talk, read and write, they form clans and keep their shenanigans hidden from humans like in Toy Story (every time a human approaches they go from talking war logistics and whatnot to simply meowning, barking, or making whatever noise moles and raccoons do, for example).

I ask because none of the big earners on Patreon have animal MCs. My MCs are pretty much small humans who think a regular deer is a giant.

>>24803275
Anime was good except the second season when it went into full simp mode.

>>24803311
No, thanks, I just want a normal lirpg/progression/cultivation story with normal characters.

>>24803311
Nah, just write another Redwall.

>>24803311
>Would you read a story
Didn't read the rest. Would YOU read YOUR story? How much of it is written? post the first chapter or two.

>>24803311
>Would you read a story in which the MCs are a dog and cat
No, go to reddit with your hecken wholesomerino doggo keekee content.

>>24803216
does clit growth count as futa? hero still technically becomes a biological female that wants my mc's (me) seed. it's objectively the superior option due to 4x the nerve endings.

>>24803311
Beware of Chicken is pretty popular, so animal MC can be a good idea.

>>24803380
BOC is human mc. animal povs are side povs
nonhuman mcs usually do much worse on amazon but there are some decent-level successes like that tree one, and chrysalis. but it's generally a niche thing and you're putting a cap on yourself, most people want to read human(oids)

>>24803311
Ideas are a dime a dozen. You can have the most dogshit idea and if you write well it'll work. Show us your first chapter.

>>24803311
pet MC can be done, pic has like 4 pages of reviews in 3 months which is better than most anons itt. i haven't read it though
personally I would get driven away by the premise of "toy vehicles and airsoft weapons", sounds a bit too cartoonish/unserious unless the series is a primarily comedy focus

>>24803393
>toy vehicles and airsoft weapons", sounds a bit too cartoonish/unserious
it's funny that you interpret it this way. the domestic dog/cat-sized vehicles and air guns part is precisely what makes it gritty and extremely violent at times. It isnt cartoonish at all, but more like GTA or an actually gangster movie like Casino, or a war story like Quiet at the Western Front... I'll make sure to specify that in future posts.

>>24803311
Isn't this just Threadbare but with more Temu Warrior Cats?

>>24803424
Never heard of either. Refer to >>24803405 for more details.

>>24803393
>Bodega cat story started updating 3 months ago
>check Patreon
>only 1 paid member, 5USD
Damn. I dont know what to think. Is this story underrated or just bad? Might read it later to find out, but I'd like to know your opinions.

>>24803439
1/631 conversion is maybe the worst I've ever seen lol

>>24803439
Looking at the Patreons of users with way more attention than I'll ever get depresses me. I'll find someone with 2-3k followers and they enjoy maybe 15 bucks despite following the guide.

>>24803449
Why even become a non-paying member? Does the author make drawing commissions or something that isnt early access of the story?

>>24803456
Never give up, cute little bunny, you may be in a toilette now, but you may be in the cover of Playboy Magazine tomorrow.

>>24803456
>I'll find someone with 2-3k followers and they enjoy maybe 15 bucks despite following the guide.
those are usually the people who grifted onto the front page with 300 shout outs, but no one actually likes the story
patreon conversion or follower/favorite ratio is probably the most reliable indicator for actual quality

Thinking about just paying an editor from fiverr at this point.

>>24803456
They usually mismanaged the tiers or don't gatelock chapters behind paetron.

>>24803464
just put it into chatgpt yourself, that's what a fiverr editor will do lol

>>24803469
Trve.

>>24803393
>>24803439
What >>24803460 said. Weaver's also one of the head honchos on Immersive Ink, so this amount of 'success' makes sense.

FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' has officially 200 followers.

I'm so happy, right now.
Thanks, anons, for all your support.

>>24803553
What evidence do you have that anons are following you?

>>24803564
Some anons have supported me before.

forgive me fff anon.
i downloaded it to read offline but didn't follow on the website

>>24803382
One of the first things the demonic tree story does is introduce a human MC, the blonde girl that's on almost all the covers. Lol.

>>24803553
Congrats, Kino man. I'll make sure to review it when I'm done reading!

>>24803572
I also prefer reading on ReadRa, don’t worry. When you have time, just leave a good rating.
>>24803582
chad.

How does someone keep a webnovel or any other type of serial interesting for 100 chapters, let alone 500, and forget about 1000? One Piece has been recycling and replicating arc for over a decade, around chapter 300 (or before) and it is over 1000 now! I've never read more than 10 chapters of anything on RoyalRoad, but I can feel the ideas starting to dry out by the 11th. Also, plenty of the content are annoying wisecrack and "look at me I'm so smart" moments, or worse, stat dumps.

>>24803591
>>24803553 Author here.

You must be an architect, not a general.
Draw the blueprint first, then focus on the details.
You’ll find out that 100 chapters aren’t even enough for 10% of the story.

>>24803591
The ones that get it realise they're writing comic books or a series not a stand alone continuous work.

>>24803591
I just treat it like a regular series. Finish one book, move onto it's sequel. Stakes always getting raised.

>>24803591
>one piece
Wtf?
Just read reverend insanity

Hey.
Remember, if you don't publish anything, free or paid, don't expect to ever have a chance at making it.

You can't make it as a writer if you can't make anything, heck, you are not even a writer if you don't even make 2 sentence stories, at that point, even meme accounts on social media writing nonsense are more of a writer than you.

So, publish something. Anything. Don't fucking stare at the post. Go write something and publish it. Believe me, it gets easier to make and release stuff once you lose the fear of well, making and releasing stuff. No matter what you do or how well it gets done. Someone's going to like it and someone's going to dislike it regardless of what it is.

>>24803691
thank you shia labeouf

>Thread gets filled with futafags and furfags
Did somebody posted this thread in one of /trash/ smut generals?

>>24803740
>futa
Sounds like the thread is based and youre gay
>furfags
youre right about this one. Furfags get out.

>>24803754
>Futa
>Based
lol

I'm curious as a reader about how much of a fall off "stubbed" stories get in accumulation of readership.
I'm obviously not paying for anything but I wonder if the potential reader who will pay is put off by immediately having to pay for amateur work sight unseen.

>>24803754
>futafag is also a brapfag
What causes this? Early porn exposure?

>>24802951
Lmao. You're supposed to write what you know, incel.

>>24803771
>What causes this?
being based, obviously

>>24803768
your RR growth is going to be cut off almost completely and all your new readers will come from amazon from that point forward
you risk killing the story as far as being a living growing web serial goes if you don't hit it at least a bit big on amazon

Hi so i keep talking with AI about my setting and they keep saying its dystopian because the MC punishes dissenters even tho he liberated them from their biological cages and allowed them to become shapeshifters with no limits to express their bodies to their heart's content and that they just don't need to disrespect his waifu

>>24802011 (OP)
I had this issue where I never finish anything.
So, I developed this step-by-step process. Basically, first write a self-contained story with a specific word count. And then restart and do the next tier, with each story getting longer.
Probably retearded idea, but I'm gonna try it.

>>24802235
>another lotgh ripoff

>>24803789
"Brap", fur, foot, futa, pony, are all shit tier.

>>24802235
NICE

>>24803860
agreed, theyre all shit... but futa is based when the futa sexes a real woman
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=5946479

>>24803858
what are the other ones? how the stars turned red?

>>24802030
Nice then I won't feel bad for just shitting out pages as exercise.

>>24803798
I'm not an AI. I'm a human, and I say you're a batshit insane tranny and anything you write will be poisoned with your deranged tranny logic.

>>24803768
It's not the best example, but it's one readily available, Cherno Caster.

Cherno Caster
Feb 19th 2025
Followers: 1,715
Favorites: 451
Ratings: 265

Oct 15th 2025
Followers: 1,645
Favorites: 470
Ratings: 281

Total Views and Average views went down because more was removed.

Are we being raided? What's up with all the /v/ tier hornyposting?

>>24803956
Obviously, yes.

>>24803940
haha, yeah

>>24803460
>follower/favorite ratio is probably the most reliable indicator for actual quality
Let's see how stubbed and ongoing /wng/ compare. I added a favorites column and ratio column.
Followers, Favorites
#1 Keygemin, 32, 19 59%
#2 VESSEL (English Version) 6 3 50%
#3 AnimeCon Harem & After AnimeCon 3,706, 1,585 43%
#4 Revenge of the Slop King 308 110 36%
#5 The Dragon And The Author 62 19 31%

Is this accurate, or does it require a higher minimum of followers and favorites to be meaningful? If so, what is that minimum?

I also added a Gain column earlier today that showed follower growth relative to duration of time.
#1 Shattered Pantheon 3.1
#2 The Wheel and the Wing 1.9
#3 Cherno Caster 1.7
#4 FFF-Class 'Unlucky Antagonist' 1.6
#5 AnimeCon Harem & After AnimeCon 1.5

Considering two of these are stubbed and Cherno Caster lost some over the course of 8 months, I don't think these are relatively good growth rates, but I can't be bothered to do more at this time.

What about #1 Keygemin? 0.2 The followers aren't coming along, but apparently those who do have a high rate of making it a favorite.

#1 Shattered Pantheon is 27%.

>>24803956
I donno. A healthy boner reminds you you're alive I guess.

>>24803956
/lit/ is becoming a based board, that's whats up

>>24804016
Let's apply this to New Life As A Max Level Archmage.
Followers :21,469
Favorites : 5,919
That's 28%.

What about it's growth, that's a better word than gain: 159
Yeah, that'll do it.

>>24803860
>>24803915
>>24804071
Singular images don't do anything for me any longer.

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24802011
Kino man's posts are being deleted.

>>24804084
Nobody asked, but okay lol
Here's another singular image

The mad lad's trying to get the thread deleted by posting so many images.

>>24804091
BASED

cumbrains out of our thread?

Does /lit/ doesn't have jannies?

Watch out horny posters. My most tame and spoilered image just got me a warning

>>24804128
You're getting a warning because you're spamming for no reason and derailing

24804128
>Implying is multiple anons and not just you spamming your shitty porn
Go back to /v/ nigger

>>24804125
It does, I don't think there are many of them. It's a very slow board, so probably only 1-3.

>>24804168
That's not what the warning said, and I was just answering a question. Had no intent to post anything else.

>>24804198
Yeah, there's a tranny that spams the board with scat and gore late at night and jannies sometimes take an hour or two to delete those posts

>>24804125
incredibly slow response time /sff/ became the unreadable pit it is today because they'd take several days to mod anything even after reports

>>24803354
Naw that's ninjutsu, the straightest martial art there is.

>>24804229
>even after reports
True, you need 3 or 4 reports for them to even notice
Something curious though, if you report the post in the first 5 minutes, the response is usually very fast

>>24804183
It is multiple, dipshit.

>>24803798
Hm, maybe try telling the AI you're depressed and follow its advice on that matter.

>>24803798
that sounds really fucking dystopian anon, with the whole "no freedom of speech" and all.

What tags and keywords in the synopsis make you abandon a story before even start reading it?

>>24804293
litrpg
isekai
hiatus
inactive
fucking stubbed.