Thread 24826415

why is /lit/ the most miserable and hostile board?

it's full of fascists who fancy themselves intellectuals.

>>24826415 (OP)
You see the same thing with Fromsoft and Silksong threads. People cannot cope with difficulty so they grasp at straws to bring authors they don't understand down.

>>24826415 (OP)
no jannies

>>24826415 (OP)
Me.
It's all because of me.

>>24826415 (OP)
Pseudointellectual + poltard -> misery
Artist in the most dead medium -> misery
Dead medium consumers -> old people -> misery

>>24826415 (OP)
Out of any board /LIT/ values their time and so praises effort posting with (yous) and responses while mocking low effort pseud tourists. I have a ball here.

Idk man I kept asking myself that in the last few days. Everytime I post anything there's some mouth drooling retard taking offense to it. And most of the time it's either because they're illiterate or because they feel like sperging about politics and they've chosen me at their target.

And then I look in the
>your age
>last book you read
type of threads and I see all these 30 years old+ dude. Am I really getting into shit flinging competitions with people with families? Don't these fuckers have anything better to do?

This is overall the fourth worst board on 4chan. Right after /v/, /his/ and /pol/ (all tied). And out of these four ones /lit/ is the most joyless one. Even niggers on /pol/ can take a joke.

>>24826415 (OP)
It's not.

>>24826563
/vg/ is way worse than /v/. And /lit/ at least pretends to be about literature, /mu/ is just KPOP general these days.

>>24826415 (OP)
It's not. You only need to glimpse at the modern quality of /g/ to see how pleasant we are.

why you mad tho?

>>24826415 (OP)
Every board on 4chan is the most miserable and hostile one.

BECAUSE NOONE WOULD PUBLISH OUR AUTISTIC SCRIBBLINGS.

>>24826622
Except /a/

>>24826563
>Am I really getting into shit flinging competitions with people with families?
lol @ u normalnigger

>>24826563
You should take a look at /g/.

>>24826415 (OP)
Which is the best board?

>>24826636
/pol/

because fuck you that's why

>>24826626
Especially /a/

>>24826636
/trv/ is pretty comfy, relatively speaking, but if we're talking /lit/, nearly everything beyond /pol/ is less hostile to open-minded discourse.

>>24826636
>>>/x/succgen/

>>24826654
It's the only one with good moderation and an actual sense of community. I don't even like anime anymore but I came back from time to time for the last JoJo storytime threads that happened this year and it was some of the most fun I've ever had on this website. It was hilarious and there were an infinite amount of OC memes and fanart being made.
They still do secret santas where they send gifts to each other too. It's the last board with sovl.

>>24826636
/tv/ or /lgbt/. I dont make the rules.

>>24826669
How do we make lit like this?

>>24826672
Good moderation. I don't even know how /a/'s moderation team survived Hiroshimoot

gatekeeping the reets
stay on your Japanese cartoon porn
reeeeeetaaaaaaaard

>>24826678
>look at /a/
>much kinder than lit, noticed almost immediately.
You spoke the truth.

>>24826622
Aside from this, literature and reading is suffering. It requires more attention and introspection than any other art form. That is inevitably miserable and part of the experience.

>>24826699
Take the wisdom pill

>>24826429
this.

>>24826694
Out of many boards /a/ has a lot of clueless newfags that tend to out themselves

>>24826719
The wisdom pill is seeing the beauty of it

>>24826758
Just dont dwell in it for too long then

>>24826699
Reading is fun. Read Rabelais, Sterne, Carroll, Joyce, Pynchon, Flann O'Brien...

>>24826731
This is true, none of them are miserable rats who've stayed on this site for far too long (myself included). Its over.

I believe in metaphysical solipsism.

I believe I am God hallucinating reality.

>>24826415 (OP)
It isn't. You haven't see anything.

But yes, this >>24826427

I've clearly inflicted a psychic wound that won't heal
How amusing

>>24826429
Holy shit, I made that image four or five years ago!

>>24826636
Unironically /lit/, I think it's gotten the least amount of brown hominids so far

>>24826563
>people with families?
Ahah I wish I'm going to die alone

>>24826429
Your logic implies that anything remotely difficult to understand is inherently a net positive, which it isn't. Trial and error in a different medium, like a video game, is not comparable to work of literature, which is more involved and abstract.

Retard.

>>24826864
..im.black. meanie :(

>>24826415 (OP)
Because they're all jealous of my massive success

Maybe then you'll have a plan
Instead of standing playing around

>>24826864
I'm brown but I like calling other browns to make them mad.
Therefore, you are brown too, Rajeesh. I don't make the rules, sorry.

>>24826872
It is. That's why certain physics research papers are the highest literary works

>>24826415 (OP)
Demonstrably untrue. Swing by /vrpg/ sometime.

>>24826879
blacker n u, timmy

>>24826636
Unironically /mu/, because it's populated by genuine enthusiasts who aren't just there to bring everybody else down.

>>24826429
soulslop is shit, kys faggot.

it's full of faggots who fancy themselves intellectuals.

>>24826415 (OP)
>>24826563
>>24826622
what the fuck are you talking about? /lit/ is literally one of the best boards on this shit
>actualy intellectual without being pretensious given we are all retards using this shitty site to begin with
>user flitering, those are interested in russian lit threads wont shit up poetry creative threads and the like on and on unlike other boards
>cozy atmosphere
if you cant take ribbing and the odd genuinely shit but authetnic take here and there you are a bitch
>>24826636
/wsr/, nothing compares to the chads on there

>>24826415 (OP)
The most miserable board is /r9k/ or one of the other porn boards .
>/lit/ is the most hostile
Not even close /ic/ is the most hostile

>>24827415
>t. One of the retards who spam politics in every thread

>>24826636
/ck/ and /o/ are the best boards, and mighty helpful, but I spend most time here, alas

/lit/ is hardly the worst board. /v/ is much worse. /lit/ will have at least 5-10 good faith threads on a given day plus some decent generals, while everything on /v/ is bait drenched in multiple layers of irony and passive-aggression.
I'm not saying what the good boards are because I don't want you retards ruining them.

>>24826415 (OP)
you ever been to /pol/? even /vg/'s game dev thread is worse

>>24827415
This anon is part of the problem

>>24826415 (OP)
The same reason the Bible has a book called Lamentations.

>>24826415 (OP)
I actually think it's /vg/ or /vt/. /ck/ is incredibly hostile as well.
As far as misery in the air, I actually think /cgl/ has /r9k/ beat.

>>24826636
/diy/ is excellent. /out/ is cool.

/his/ is this board but worse.

sure got a lotta mileage out of this. can't wait for the assmad fag mod to ban me for it

>>24827899
*nigger fag (shit eater) mod

>>24827902
thank you, my mistake

>>24827729
/cgl/ isnt that bad, its bad but /r9k/ is complete shit.

>>24826669
>jojo storytime
What would be /lit/'s equivalent?

>>24827942
What is /r9k/'s culture like now? I haven't been there since like 2013

>>24826672
Make good threads and don't bump garbage threads

>>24826415 (OP)
We don't get enough wet vagina on our cocks

>>24827729
>/diy/ is excellent. /out/ is cool.
This is true

>>24826624
Cumgenius!

>>24827722
>>24827608
see? this is bait and the solution is just ignoring this jackasses and focusing on actual replies

>>24826415 (OP)
/lit/ is arguably the best board imo. People here actually read and write.

/tv/ doesn’t watch anything.
/ic/ doesn’t draw.
/sci/ is full of larpers.
/int/ is full of pajeets larping with other people’s flags.
I can’t have technical discussion on /g/ any more.
/adv/ has been taken over by obviously fake and strange posts. I suspect AI LLM bots.
And so on.

I guess /p/ actually takes photos too. But photography is a lower art form.

>>24826415 (OP)
I can't get sex or a gf

>>24828141
>People here actually read and write.
lol

>>24828218
You just read the post and wrote a reply, dummy.

>>24827943
Book clubs that die after 3 weeks

>>24826427
The famous facist board where we have threads glazing leftists and their policies/philosophies daily

>>24827946
/r9k/ is just bait threads and endless gooning. It's 50% incels and 50% women and men who want to be called ma'am. But if you filter 85% of the posts it's actually not so bad.

>>24826563
> all these 30 years old+
Some of us actually had time to read and you’re jealous or something? Instead of seeing it as a resource you’re mad older people than you exist on a board you’re new to?
Breaking some pretty basic etiquette trying to lay claim to something you didn’t create in the first place. Go back to TikTok then, live like your generation does.

>>24828257
You can call out the christnigger and pollack threads easily by just asking questions about books. They don’t read anything. They just like to pretend so they can spew their usual garbage on other boards.

>>24828353
That's what I keep saying. It's like they've been so irony-poisoned by social media that they view the existence of any priority and experience further than their own as a threat.

>>24828353
See what I mean? How tf am I talking to people 30 and above when they keep getting mad at points I never made

>>24828361
this place has been a fucking phantom shithole with bots for many moons

>>24828361
Age doesnt equate to wisdom. None of those retards have families

>>24827954
Why would gay men want vaginas?

>>24827174
when was the last time you browsed /mu/?

>>24826563
>4channelers
>people who started their own family
pick one and one only

Did you bring a friend
Lets make up again

>>24826415 (OP)
BECAUSE WE'RE TRAPPED IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST AS IT'S BLEEDING TO DEATH
AND WE'RE WELL-READ ENOUGH TO REALIZE IT
THE END IS NIGH

>>24826415 (OP)
billy bitch tits

>>24826415 (OP)
Because brown "people" might be looking at my post right now and it's a very upsetting thought.

>>24826415 (OP)
/tv/ is actually one of the funniest, least hostile boards
/a/ and /v/ are massive piles of dogshit where it's impossible to have any serious discussion
/lit/ is meh, sometimes good but it's usually too slow
/his/ is an abomination and is basically /pol/ and full of historical revisionism directly from stormfront
/g/ is nonstop ranting about Indians and Chinese

>>24829352
You aren't white, Muhammad
We do not grant you the title of "Timmy"

>>24826950
There is zero literary value in any research paper.

>>24826415 (OP)
It really isn’t, in /lit/ you can find intelligent people from time to time with whom you can have respectful discussions, maybe with a little shit flinging or passive agreement remarks here and there. In a board like /v/ everyone is always angry, most threads and posts are troll inflammatory posts meant to elicit that kind of reaction too. I do agree that /lit/ is probably more miserable but /v/ has a ton of incels who make thread crying anout how they can’t get laid, which I’m sure they are the same posters that make incel woe is me threads here as well.

>>24826563
You’re gonna be here when you’re 30+ as well, retard. Do you think you will turn 30 and just suddenly say “I don’t think I’m gonna use 4chan anymore” and actually do it? Where else are you gonna discuss literature?

>>24826781
You haven’t read those authors if you haven’t grasped the inherent melancholy in their works. Ulysses, Tritram Shandy and Mason & Dixon are highly melancholic and deal with the more miserable aspects of existence amidst all the jolliness and wordplay.

>>24829505
Don't get snippy with me, twink.
I'll turn you into my human fleshlight.

>>24827168
It’s a dead board.

>>24826872
You’re a moron, anon is right though obviously his logic does not apply absolutely to all literature. A lot of anons here instantly dismiss with virulent hatred authors they don’t understand yet they don’t even bother to actually engage with them. Like pic related. You can just tell it’s some retard that found out about McCarthy through some gay youtube video, he tried to read Blood Meridian, couldn’t get past the first five pages and got mad about it. Notice how he includes Joyce as well.

>>24826864
lmao you’d be surprised

>>24829513
And? Melancholic things can be fun too. Disciples 2 is the bleakest game I know, but the gameplay fucks.

>>24827946
Went back to /r9k/ for the first time since around 2016, it’s full of actual real women and unironic trannies. It’s so odd, last time I was there Eggman and Eliot Rodger were their heroes and they were all redpilled/blackpilled.

It's halfway through the process of becoming a bot and thirdie infested shithole like his.

>>24829522
I (the person he's replying to) didn't say that lmao

>>24829543
>And?
And you’re disputing the point the anon you replied to rightly made. Are you too retarded to remember the post you wrote minutes ago?

>>24829355
>/his/ is an abomination and is basically /pol/ and full of historical revisionism directly from stormfront
we see you shlomo

>>24829357
>le Star Wars meme
epic meme Pedro!

>>24826415 (OP)
/lit/ is one part seething modernists academics that cannot accept that their entire worldview is a lie, one part leftists, one part normies that just want to talk about fiction or popular books, and one part normal people (aka muh le "extreme far right"). And the only ones that produce interesting conversations are the last group and the modernist academics when they don't have anything to seethe about.

>>24829580
What is "Star wars" and how do you know what that is

>>24826415 (OP)
/v/ is so much more hostile. One wrong opinion, and you get trounced on viciously. Fuck that board.
That shithole /tv/ is not far behind.

>>24826415 (OP)
You are on 4chan retard. Take your sensitive ass back to booktok

>>24826429
>learning basic patterns of untelegraphed attacks by heart over and over is hard
peak midwit pseud, as is the reason why those games are the most popular on preddit and among the sois

>>24828361
almost every human is a retard, should have been obvious by now, enjoy things yourself and stop caring

>>24826563
I think political discourse has the ability to be really interested but it needs to move on from broad outlines of the typography of the enemy class.

>>24826636
/lit/, /ck/, /sp/, and /out/
sometimes /t/ if I want to find something good to torrent. the rest of the boards suck.

>>24828218
Hey the recent competition threads have been fun

>>24826636
/a/, /vg/ and /ic/ They have the least amount of retarded /pol/ shitposting

>>24830427
>/vg/
>schizo namefags screeching 24/7 about their day between all the ritualposting
/vg/ is way worse than /v/, it's practically a discord server.

>>24830464
We are talking about which board chimp out less and shit everywhere anon. /vg/ triggering your paranoia about "le discord servers" doesn't make /v/ a better board. I checked after your post and there is literally a drama thread in the first page as I'm posting this kek

well, judging from the recent humor thread, probably because it's currently haunted by a bunch of trannies

I would guess this board has low migration of new users and that there is a core of dedicated haters. I just wish we could have decent tolkien threads. Sometimes when I read them I wonder if any anons actually READ the material - through the silmarillion, unfinished tales, narn e chin hurin
Sometimes I see posts where I have to ask, how did you come to be on a literature board...and not even LIKE prose...or why are you on a literature board if you conversely do not like writing or do not care to improve?
Obviously you cant expect too much from this site but like other interest-based boards it almost feels like actual enthusiasts have been replaced by ironic or post-ironic larpers who try to aesthetically resemble the former enthusiast userbase, but dont capture its soul or passion.
I think the most prime example of this is /r9k/, where all the users seem to believe they are "true" incels, but their doompills are clearpills compared to 2020 /r9k/ which was bluepilled compared to 2016 /r9k/...only, the aesthetic corruption is more noticeable on hobby boards.
So what can you do if you are larping as an enthusiast, to cover up for lack of true knowledge, passion, or interest to learn?
You learn juuust enough to hate, and hate, and incite, which is normal on 4chan, but progressively enshittifies the environment YOY without mods who gaf.

>>24826427
this but unironically

>>24828361
They're just mad because we have it better than they ever will.

>>24826636
It seems /out/ is the most favorable. Interesting.

My current theory is that 99% the non-Americans that post on this website regardless of which board they choose to inhabit are just extremely unpleasant individuals who seek attention above all else and will gladly make retarded threads without considering the consequences of their actions.

>>24828361
The 30+ year olds are just as likely to skim what you actually wrote as the zoomers they complain about. They might even be worse about it.

>>24826427
Fascists are actually well-read in the Canon, unlike most leftists, who just read modern theory and sloppy contemporary asian diaspora novels.

>>24830586
lol
lmao

>>24826636
Probably /lit/ /out/ and even slower boards. 4chan is beyond captured and a lot of the boards are just consumer advertising data mining threads. The bots are getting more subtle at convincing people of some product to sell. If it's not that it's some target for AI generated content or X reposts. /biz/ for example used to be a good board but it really flopped around covid. I'm surprised there are still chainlink threads on /biz/. This site is just some billionaire PR echo chamber most of the time.

>>24826636
Used to be /vr/, but the idiots from /v/ have grown bold and now use it to shitpost every so often. /lit/ is pretty good too, or at least it's been good the times that I've browsed it.

>>24826415 (OP)
There's nothing to save, it's time to go outside, we learn everything we need it to don't become a normie, but sometimes, that isn't enough

I think /wg/ is the last good board, but i think i need to go outside

>>24826636
/lit/ has the best discussion if you get lucky and find a thread that isn't just constant shitflinging, /x/ is the best place to schizopost, and /tv/ is the funniest. I mostly just use those three, but /an/ can be a breath of fresh air every once in a while, shame it's so slow.

>>24833461
This. /x/ forces you to be discerning, its mental gymnastics but can be fun.
/tv/ is funny and this board isnt so bad. /out/ is pretty wholesome too

>>24829538
No amount of revisionism will make me forget how popular Blood Meridian (and to a lesser extent, Suttree) was on this board before YouTubers found the book. Same with Krasznahorkai, this place is full of contrarian fags who disown anything the second Redditors start liking it too

>>24833493
I like every classic—women too. If you look over the catalogue, it's never "I enjoyed his works, especially here where [...] which his statements reflect the [...]," it's always denunciatory invective bullshit. What bothers me the most is that there clearly exists a tiny, miniscule subgroup of enthusiastic readers and lovers of literature here, drowned under the bile-shit sewage of 4ch seeped into every earnest sentiment.

I like books and I like reading. I hate this place.

>>24833482
Yeah, I think people overestimate how bad /lit/ really is compared to the rest of the site (barring a few exceptions). Dealing with Benatar spam and butthurt Guenonfags is nothing compared to the garbage you find on /his/ or any of the video game boards, let alone the red boards.

>>24833509
When was the last time you were able to engage a user here regarding a book? Like, actually discuss a work of literature? Go on the catalogue. You can't be this blind. There's nothing there.

>>24833509
Nta but whats wrong with /his/?

>>24833515
Just a couple weeks ago, I was able to have a great conversation about Sloterdijk. Granted, most of the thread was just a /pol/ circlejerk over his support for the Covid vaccine, but still, you can find decent discussion if you look hard enough and stay away from the obvious bait threads.

>>24833524
Last time I went on there, it was just full of religious flamewars and monarchist larpers. Maybe it's better now, at least I hope so

>>24833536
It isn't.

>>24826415 (OP)
Because, enlightened by our study of the wisdom of the world, we see the world for what it truly is: an insignificant ball spinning around an endless void populated by hairless apes who don’t even know why they do what they do and by so doing make everything worse and worse; people who listen to a priest’s sermon on Sunday and beat their wives on Monday; people who cut down the Amazon for a quick buck; people who breed and breed and breed.
To exist in such a pointless troglodyte world pains those few who are able to think and reflect

>>24826563
I had the same thought the other day about how old some of these edgelord posters are. Best thing I can do is not give them a (You) and move on with my life. They can sperg out into a yawning oblivion of indifference to their temper tantrums.

>>24833581
Being pained by a lawless and decadent world implies the belief in some more ideal one. Wouldn't the ones capable of critical thought be the ones to pursue that ideal rather than assume a position of utter helplessness and join in on the degradation and humiliation?

>>24833604
>surely we're intelligent enough to develop utopia unlike all those idiots who came before us!
there is no such config in this universe. hate to break it to ya. it was designed that way.

>>24833581
If you're going to be a pessimist, at least draw on Cioran or Michelstaedter instead of Reddit buzzwords

>>24826415 (OP)
Haven't been to /tg/ lately, huh.

>>24826636
/wg/
I've gotten some great wallpapers from there over the years.

What makes you say that? I think y'all are pretty chill :>

Because of 2e, dunning Kruger, personality disorders, psychosis. A mix of genuine intelligence combined with personality and psychological issues, and people who think theyre smarter than they are, who also have these things. And a sort of bond that develops where everyone convinces one another that these pathologies are evidence of eliteness.
People with these problems tend to be hostile and quick to flare up. This board doesn't seem to be more hostile than the others though.

>>24834250
fuck you i dont flare up you fucking cuck

>>24834250
>dunning Kruger
Go back

>>24833524
Its shit

>>24834250
This

Because /lit/ is all pseuds and secondaries

>>24826427
Rent free.

you haven't been around /vg/ much

>>24830586
>>24830632
The former anon is right. It's a very small number of people today who align with fascism, and actually consider, and call themselves fascists (the actual ideology not the contemporary pejorative which can be reduced essentially to "people who disagree with me" by both leftists and rightists). This small group has actually read the doctrine for one (unlike most self styled Communists, of which there are millions). They read and appreciate the Western Canon because they value it greatly, and view it as evidence of the great works of Western civilisation. The average communist is a student at University who finds that he can join societies, have lots of friends and even get pussy just by being a Marxist. He can just make a Twitter account, put a rose and pronouns in his bio, parrot other slightly more well-read Marxists ideas and never have to read a lick of theory (outside of a once over of The Communist Manifesto because it's short).

>>24826415 (OP)
>anon enters /lit/
>hasn't worked atleast 50 percent through the /lit/ book gauntlet
>starts arguing in the philosophy threads with toads when anon thinks a form is what you fill out

OP never getting the keys to /lit/ without putting in the work

>this shit thread I made almost 5 days ago is still trucking
lmao, you fags need to get a life, holy shit

>>24827729
diy is complete dogshit what the fuck are you smoking

>>24826415 (OP)
Very high estrogen.

>>24826415 (OP)
>why is /lit/ the most miserable and hostile board?
it isn't

>>24839763
>he shuddered, palsied with foaming rage

/his/ is almost better than this board

>>24826415 (OP)
this thread is going for 300 replies

>>24840995
it's my magnum opus and it's a fuckin throwaway. pisses me off.

figures.

>>24841068
Seethe OP. I'll bump your monstrosity.

>>24826415 (OP)
Not by a long stretch. That honor belongs to /vrpg/.

/tv/ is the worst. To the point where it's an interesting place to study human psychology.

>>24826654
/a/ is fine as long as you don't post anything that isn't Japanese or pretends to be Japanese. Also, stay away from the generals; they're pure cancer.

>>24826415 (OP)
Dunno, but it's the only board I've seen that's neurotic and effeminate enough to constantly measure itself against other boards.

>>24826415 (OP)
Too many atheists raised by single moms

>>24843669
No it isnt. /gif/ and poltards are the worst. Next is /his/. The only issue with tv is that no one watches movies.

>>24826853
Never watched the simpsons but who are they supposed to be?

>>24843678
>/a/ is fine as long as you don't post anything that isn't Japanese or pretends to be Japanese
Weird how that never applies the other way around.

>>24843851
Here's a clue. Once you know 1, you should be able to guess the other 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcYXWfGt7DY

Bump

>>24826415 (OP)
because the literate are the most hostile and miserable people

>>24826415 (OP)
Its fun though. I don't check the board as much anymore but the goofy hostility is enjoyable once in a while.

>>24826626
/a/ became normiefag central lol

>>24826636
If you can avoid the loathesome edgelords, /lit/ can be the best place to discuss a serious topic. Easily has the worst sense of humor.

/tv/ is fucking hilarious and I don't really watch TV

/k/ has a good balance

/pol/ is absolute garbage

2010's /fit/ was peak internet

>>24826429
>understanding is the goal of literature
>not aesthetic relating

Jesus and people wonder why art is dying. Analysis has ruined fucking everything.

>>24845162
Enjoyment is the goal of literature, actually. Understanding is the necessary prerequisite for that, and that's what stops FW from being as fun as Ulysses.

>>24846364
>relegating the art of literature to some platitude


miss me with
that shit
my brother

I wish I was as illiterate as /lit tells me I am and wants me to be.

I pray to God, "please good, I wish I was unable to read so I couldn't understand what was being discussed here.
Please, I wish for the brain damage required to not understand the depth of any one individuals thoughts here."

>>24845045
Wholeheartedly agree.

>>24845045
This is true.

>>24826649
best answer so far

OP here to answer his own question

we come here to be defeated in intellectual battle, and thereby, learn us somethin.
we are the literary masochists, the authorial losers, the failed editors, the debauched scribblers. THIS is one of the many old clubs of england, where men sharpened (or pared) their wits. THIS is the grand coliseum.
were any of you to create an undoubted masterpiece, this would be the first place you'd bring it, to watch it get pricked so that all and any ego abruptly deflates.