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All Hallows Slop Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels:
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Anon's guide to success:
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ:
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>Disclaimer!

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how many threads are we getting pruned already? jeez man, I just want some peace around here.

lol you really made another? they're just both going to get deleted now
i guess it's at least a place to hang out until then though
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It really is kinda terrifying how the AI-prose novels keep doing better and better. This recent one is literally at 5k followers and it's obvious as hell.

My only cope is that it's still a human mind guiding the story, and story has always been what matters most, but sheesh...it's getting scary out there.

(You) better release your story soon and carve out a name for yourself. The flood is coming.

any couples in your series that have a gomez and morticia addams relationship?

>>24845427
> This recent one is literally at 5k followers
You can't say shit like that without giving names or links.

>>24845492
we were talking about it last thread. something sovereign. it's like #3 on RS rn?

>>24845427
it'll fade away after a while.

>>24845427
They may be getting better metrics right now, but it's a turkey illusion at best. AI is still trash at long form content because of token limits. Memory is the real bottleneck that they're going to run into. If anything, web serials will be easier to gatekeep from AIjeets because of this fact.

>>24845514
Well like I said I don't think memory matters because I'm pretty sure it's just the writing itself being churned out, but the story is made by the person. It's probably first-drafted then completely written by AI
So it kind of killed the art of prose
Which contrary to what you said opens it up to ESLs a whole ton

would there be any market for a "sitcom" novel? imagine something like seinfeld or curb your enthusiasm, no real plot, character development or anything, just a bunch of funny sketches

>>24845544
Market it as slice of life comedy and yeah, I can see it potentially doing well. Still off-meta so it'll need to be really high quality, but sure, it's possible
Assuming it's fantasy, actually. You mean real world sitcom? Honestly I don't think so

>>24845502
>>24845539
And where's the actual proof? Mediocre writing doesn't have to imply AI.

>>24845539
>It's probably first-drafted then completely written by AI
You and I have very different interpretations of something being written by AI then. I'm envisioning some get rich quick grifter opening up a chatGPT window and typing 'Generate a story about X with Y elements'. Your example is more like someone couldn't be assed to learn how to edit and is just harming themselves in the long term.

>>24845553
There is no such thing as proof when it comes to AI, anon.
But it's obvious. If you can't see it, my condolences

>>24845571
It's still an author that had AI fully rewrite his prose and is seeing more success than probably anyone in this thread will. That's not bleak to you?

>>24845577
No, I can't see it. I can see the extreme paranoia though.

>>24845581
I really don't call AI easily. But anon. It's obvious.

AI is most recognizable by the constant, melodramatic turns of phrase
>The cold spray pricked his skin, each drop a tiny sting of acceptance.
>Soon the machine gurgled to life, promising chemical salvation in ceramic form
>She moved with the efficiency of someone who’d refined her daily routine to an art form.
this is just from a very quick scan of chapter 1.
come on, man, are you this much of a newfag? This isn't how people wrote pre-2020. It's so obvious it's painful
>BUT ACTUAL PROOF????
you're the reason it's spreading

>>24845579
If the author was still behind the entire story and just got help with the way it was delivered, I don't mind as much. It's still scummy, obviously, but it's nowhere near as bleak if it was some fag just prompting and getting 5k followers.

>>24845590
Funny thing is that not only are these AI but these are the type of AI results that people who actually use chatbots start rerolling/remaking the chat when they appear because they just get worse and worse once the ai comes up with one.

>>24845591
>but it's nowhere near as bleak if it was some fag just prompting and getting 5k followers.
Yeah that would be the apocalyptic, writing-as-a-career is completely over, anon. It's still bleak to see the first hints of that awful fate starting to manifest. Your sentence-level writing no longer matters from a career perspective. People are happy with AI prose

>>24845602
Thing with AI is that it's basically undetectable if you aren't used to it but once you're familiar it becomes very easy to spot. So people will get more suspicious the more come out.

RR is doing a pathetic job of enforcing the tags though when it's on the frontpage and not tagged.

>>24845606
they have a staff of like 6 people so fair enough lol. even if it's kinda obvious there's a bizarre alien chance the author just likes the chatgpt style...

if AI can produce better quality shit than humans, who tf cares. right now it's not there yet so there's still a place for human writers, but once it's there and AI can produce stuff that's more enjoyable to read and has higher artistic value, the world will be a better place. the only losers are overpaid, opinionated, and entitled writers, y'all don't deserve jobs and i'll be happy to cut out the middle man when it's possible

>Return of the Mathemagician is “AI assisted”
>manages to fuck up the prose anyways (somehow)
>MC is the memetic “i am in euphoria from my own intelligence” atheist
>Completely misunderstands mathematics
it is amusing how pseud the isekai fantasy managed to get to #3 on Rising Stars

>>24845616
>pro-ai post disparaging writers on a writer/reader general
>happens to appear while RIfag shits up his own splinter

curious

>>24845616
It's not better quality. It's trash but looks passable if you skim through it with your brain turned off.

is romantasy really the big thing in the market?

Whoever recommended The Grandmaster Strategist a few threads back, thanks.

It's kino as fuck even despite the occasional asspull.

>>24845637
men don't read, romance is the biggest female read genre.
>>24845618
Webnovels are hilarious for the amount of people who refuse to research what their story is about.
Like surely the exact people I'm targeting this story at won't mind all the details being wrong?
>>24845641
The political chinese WNs are their strongest genre imo

>>24845637
Romantasy has been the market leader for years. The fuck do you mean next big thing

>>24845618
>Math Isekai
People are already plagiarizing my Kino story.
Should I be proud or mad?

>>24845650
That's clearly a Meth Isekai.

>>24845646
shit, i wasn't reading for a while. if it's already the big thing, then what's the next?

>>24845662
>if it's already the big thing, then what's the next?
only grifters will try to assure you they know the next major market trend. this is obvious. why are you asking advice from obvious grifters?