Thread 24847490

I don't get it.
So Ezra Pound's works are something only a genius could make, but the only reason why he isn't labeled as a genius by academia, experts and readers is because he had the wrong opinion?
That makes no sense all.

>>24847490 (OP)
the allied powers are cowardly, sore winners

>>24847490 (OP)
Couldn't into math so no.

>>24847490 (OP)
>Ezra Pound's works are something only a genius could make
False

>>24847490 (OP)
They almost executed him after the war.

>>24847621
the cantos btfo your fav

>>24848972
my fav is finnegans wake so no

ezra pounded in the ass

>>24847615
Neither can I. Doesn't really mean anything.

Aesthetic tastes and politics are inseparably linked, always have been and always will be.

>>24849076
kill yourself

>>24847844
Yes because fleeing to an enemy state during the war was akin to treason. Whether you like it or not such were the rules.

>>24849076
That’s a totalitarian way of thinking and it will get you nowhere

>>24847490 (OP)
>he isn't labeled as a genius by academia, experts and readers is because he had the wrong opinion?
He is, retard.

>>24847490 (OP)
>he isn't labeled as a genius by academia, experts
He is.

>and readers
No one reads poetry.

>>24850020
>No one reads poetry.
I do

>>24850045
As do I

>>24850049
I don‘t

>>24847490 (OP)
it's just free verseslop though

>>24848972
>just a bunch of mangled gibberish with the only good part being a translation of a translation of the odyssey

Being a right wing poet is like being a male in human resources. He was doomed from the get go.

>>24852142
It’s very good with thematic elements that run over 50 years.
>only good part
I see you made it to the very first few cantos or just googled it. This is high level for you.
>>24847621
True
>>24847490 (OP)
He was EVIL in world war 2. He didn’t kill anyone or hurt anyone or anything like that but he was EVIL they said.

>>24847490 (OP)
His art will win out in the end

>>24847490 (OP)
It's weird how you can tell that beneath his expression lies an insatiable lust for BBC.

>>24853514
Why do all of you people talk the same?

>>24853604
>doesnt realize the rerouting blame from self (jewish) to indians doesn't work any longer
I love seeing wasted effort. Do you know why you all sound the same?

>>24853594
Ain't nuttin' wrong with being an obsessed slave for BBC, sista.

i jokingly say i'm this dude reincarnated
jk i mean it

>>24849364
He didn’t exactly flee to Italy, where he’d lived for years, but he made radio propaganda broadcasts. I’ve seen some transcripts and it’s mostly conspiracy rants, not Death to America exactly, but enough to get anyone else hung.

>>24849053
you are not a genius, dumbass

>>24854182
Yet he was stuck in a cage for a while with a likely death sentence hanging over him. Then he spent decades in a secure hospital/prison.

Whereas actual killers such as Shirō Ishii got immunity for their actions during world war 2

Such was the style at the time. This is the power of the written word being feared.

>>24852160
But there was a bunch of them (and artists in general) in the 20th century.

>>24849364
He was a refugee,not a combatant.

>>24847490 (OP)
It wasn't the genius that allowed him to write. They clearly did some black magic alchemical shit (him along with yeats) I have proof of this.

>>24854882
I think Brasillach might have been the only writer executed after the war, though I think the French did try to get their hands on Celine

>>24852160
Eliot and Yeats were chuds and everyone loved them and showered them with praise

>>24847490 (OP)
I prefer T.S. Eliot.

>I think that the present time will spontaneously lead to something like the separation of individual human beings from time’s events. They will stand on their own feet, and from their innermost being they will seek new paths, spiritual paths.
>It seems to me that Goethe, for example, had a compass of consciousness which far surpassed that of his nineteenth-century contemporaries. Rudolf Steiner expressly upheld this, and I do too.
>In a certain connection, atomic science has a meaning, namely inasmuch as it is in the hands of men who are in no way able to cope with it. It has no importance whatever for the progress of mankind. I see the path of progress for modern man in his occupation with his own self, with his inner being, as indicated by Rudolf Steiner.

>>24847615
Beethoven was awful at math, which is interesting because he clearly was a genius with the same faculty for genius that great mathematicians have, I mean both great creativity and memory in spatial cognition

As for Ezra Pound, I think he is a bit overrated. He wrote some really outstanding poems, there can be no doubt, but if 90%+ of a poet’s output is not that good than I can’t really regard him as a great poet.

>>24849366
What do you mean

>>24856748
Yeats died about six months too soon to say "I hope Hitler stomps England so that Ireland will be free" as he was on a clear trajectory to doing and would have put him in the same position as Pound.

I‘m not an expert on Eliot but cursory reading seems to suggest he just rigorously hoarded his internal thoughts while things were going on.