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Anonymous No.24849203 [Report] >>24849321 >>24849325 >>24849600 >>24849601 >>24849624 >>24849671 >>24849897 >>24849937 >>24849971 >>24852400 >>24854494 >>24854760 >>24856974
>“Youth was the time for happiness, its only season; young people, leading a lazy, carefree life, partially occupied by scarcely absorbing studies, were able to devote themselves unlimitedly to the liberated exultation of their bodies. They could play, dance, love, and multiply their pleasures. They could leave a party, in the early hours of the morning, in the company of sexual partners they had chosen, and contemplate the dreary line of employees going to work. They were the salt of the earth, and everything was given to them, everything was permitted for them, everything was possible. Later on, having started a family, having entered the adult world, they would be introduced to worry, work, responsibility, and the difficulties of existence; they would have to pay taxes, submit themselves to administrative formalities while ceaselessly bearing witness--powerless and shame-filled--to the irreversible degradation of their own bodies, which would be slow at first, then increasingly rapid; above all, they would have to look after children, mortal enemies, in their own homes, they would have to pamper them, feed them, worry about their illnesses, provide the means for their education and their pleasure, and unlike in the world of animals, this would last not just for a season, they would remain slaves of their offspring always, the time of joy was well and truly over for them, they would have to continue to suffer until the end, in pain and with increasing health problems, until they were no longer good for anything and were definitively thrown into the rubbish heap, cumbersome and useless. In return, their children would not be at all grateful, on the contrary their efforts, however strenuous, would never be considered enough, they would, until the bitter end, be considered guilty because of the simple fact of being parents. From this sad life, marked by shame, all joy would be pitilessly banished. When they wanted to draw near to young people's bodies, they would be chased away, rejected, ridiculed, insulted, and, more and more often nowadays, imprisoned. The physical bodies of young people, the only desirable possession the world has ever produced, were reserved for the exclusive use of the young, and the fate of the old was to work and to suffer. This was the true meaning of solidarity between generations; it was a pure and simple holocaust of each generation in favor of the one that replaced it, a cruel, prolonged holocaust that brought with it no consolation, no comfort, nor any material or emotional compensation.”
Anonymous No.24849231 [Report] >>24854767
So what?
Anonymous No.24849321 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
I seem to remember that part in map and territory where the son casually mentions getting Houllebecq to show up at a meeting and the dad immediately perks to life and is interested. The son is baffled since his dad was basically just catatonic at that point and shouldn't even have known about him. Take your pick, either it was you ejaculating over the biggest humble brag of your books or you're the intergenerational glue of France. You can get both but only because you needed a cranky and perverted German guy to pull it off.
Anonymous No.24849325 [Report] >>24849594
>>24849203 (OP)
>AAAA I WANT TO DIDDLE KIDS
Is all I'm reading.
Anonymous No.24849594 [Report] >>24855012
>>24849325
you don't?
Anonymous No.24849600 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
> Being a hedonist degenerate good
> Leading a pious life bad
Anonymous No.24849601 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
Early Houllebecq was so kino
Anonymous No.24849624 [Report] >>24849636 >>24849665
>>24849203 (OP)
>the wisdom of age has no value, only the exuberance of youth
>hates children
>wants to sexually possess their bodies tho
Why are they all like this? He's an unusually mean and selfish teenager who never grew up.
Anonymous No.24849636 [Report]
>>24849624
>hates children
>wants to sexually possess their bodies tho
Based.
Anonymous No.24849665 [Report] >>24849792
>>24849624
>children
He was talking about college kids.
Anonymous No.24849671 [Report] >>24854800
>>24849203 (OP)
>their children would not be at all grateful, on the contrary their efforts, however strenuous, would never be considered enough, they would, until the bitter end, be considered guilty because of the simple fact of being parents
As it should be. No one asked to be born.
Anonymous No.24849792 [Report] >>24849823 >>24849921
>>24849665
It's amazing how much /lit/izen discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.
Anonymous No.24849823 [Report] >>24849921 >>24849940 >>24849956
>>24849792
>thus making discourse impossible.
>he says after writing a vague post
Anonymous No.24849825 [Report]
reading this sleazy motherfucker during my formative years fucked up my perception of societal power dynamics
Schopenhauer fanboys should be beheaded
Anonymous No.24849897 [Report] >>24849902
>>24849203 (OP)
Good passage except for
>until they were no longer good for anything and were definitively thrown into the rubbish heap, cumbersome and useless. In return, their children would not be at all grateful
This is less a timeless truth than a projection of his own experience. Families in my community would consider it sacrilege to abandon your parents. My parents loved me and so I’ll return that love to them in their old age, they’ll never be alone as long as I’m alive.
Anonymous No.24849902 [Report] >>24849930
>>24849897
>to abandon your parents
It's a white (mostly anglo) people thing.
Anonymous No.24849921 [Report] >>24849940
>>24849823
>>24849792
sir Most Hated No.24849930 [Report]
>>24849902
old people can't love, their bodies are broken and so their souls (the form of the body) are evil
the only exceptions are those who have attained to Wisdom, an exceeding rarity
Anonymous No.24849937 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
>“Youth was the time for happiness, its only season; young people, leading a lazy, carefree life, partially occupied by scarcely absorbing studies, were able to devote themselves unlimitedly to the liberated exultation of their bodies. They could play, dance, love, and multiply their pleasures. They could leave a party, in the early hours of the morning, in the company of sexual partners they had chosen, and contemplate the dreary line of employees going to work."
This experience is chad only for men now. Most males begin being tormented by life from the moment they enter puberty.
Anonymous No.24849940 [Report]
>>24849921
>>24849823
Anonymous No.24849956 [Report] >>24849965
>>24849823
Anon you’re replying to is aping a meme he saw on Twitter because he’s never had an original thought in his life. Ignore him
Anonymous No.24849965 [Report]
>>24849956
>Twitter
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Anonymous No.24849971 [Report] >>24850043
>>24849203 (OP)
This is what life without Jesus does to a mf
Anonymous No.24850043 [Report] >>24850092 >>24853004 >>24854950
>>24849971
you people just prove that your belief is a coping mechanism when you post this btw
Anonymous No.24850092 [Report] >>24850190
>>24850043
You see it as merely a coping mechanism because you’re a relativist who doesn’t understand that we see it as the truth. But even if it were just cope to live by principles that lead me away from wallowing in nihilism and writing about whiny, suicidal incels or terminally horny pedophiles, then I would gladly cope.
Anonymous No.24850190 [Report]
>>24850092
I see it as a coping mechanism in this case because it's implicit in the statement. I don't think faith HAS to be a coping mechanism, but yours certainly is. And insincerity is no way out of nihilism.
Anonymous No.24850292 [Report] >>24850528
jarvis, nose check on this nigga
Anonymous No.24850528 [Report] >>24850583 >>24850968
>>24850292
>you're a jew if you don't believe in my jewish god
Make it make sense.
Anonymous No.24850583 [Report]
>>24850528
Hi kike
Anonymous No.24850968 [Report]
>>24850528
this isn't really about god
I was thinking more the spiteful jealousy of youth, the whiny forced pessimism, the attempts to subvert family relationships, and the pedophilia
It all seems rather jew-like of you ask me
Anonymous No.24851289 [Report]
This guy can’t fathom any existence higher than that of a fly. Newton and Vivaldi are incomprehensible to him because they weren’t flies
Anonymous No.24852400 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
>I'm a degenerate hedonist forced into an honorable life
Why didn't he just start taking hard drugs? His art would have been better and his life more pleasurable and shorter.
Anonymous No.24853004 [Report] >>24854472
>>24850043
Everyone has a cope. A natural cope like religion is way healthier and more powerful than porn, drugs, or alcohol. Marx literally calls it an opiate.

Mr BBQ has copes too. His mental copes are nihilism and self pity which are far more destructive than religious cope. He’s also probably a huge ass gooner porn addict considering he constantly writes about sex in his book.
Anonymous No.24854472 [Report]
>>24853004
He's too old to goon
Anonymous No.24854494 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
Ia that his own hand? It doesnt look like it is
Anonymous No.24854760 [Report] >>24854773
>>24849203 (OP)
But you can still do all these things he listed as an adult even with kids and a full time job? You can still play, dance, love and multiply your pleasures. I don’t see the problem.
Anonymous No.24854767 [Report] >>24854771
>>24849231
this, ive never seen an excerpt from this guy that made me interested in reading his books, it's literally 'ok...so?' writing
Anonymous No.24854771 [Report]
>>24854767
He basically just writes about ineffectual white men feeling sad and angry about not being fuckable. You can see how it would be so popular here.
Anonymous No.24854773 [Report]
>>24854760
In fact, I became an even bigger degenerate ever since I started working. I could afford better drugs, prettier girls and overall a higher quality of life. How shit do your kids have to be for your entire view of parenting to be tainted?
Anonymous No.24854800 [Report] >>24854847
>>24849671
You can always kill yourself retard. Living is a voluntary action which you choose to engage in every day
Anonymous No.24854847 [Report] >>24854850
>>24854800
>You can always kill yourself retard.
You first faggot. Dumb nigger.
Anonymous No.24854850 [Report] >>24854852
>>24854847
But i dont profess life to be a torturous experience, the way YOU do.
>Nihilists when they have to act accordingly to their beliefs.
Anonymous No.24854852 [Report] >>24854948
>>24854850
>no true nihilist without suicide
ultimate midwit. don't reply again.
Anonymous No.24854948 [Report] >>24854951
>>24854852
Its moreso got to do with the fact that you came here to BITCH and MOAN about life being misery and haaard and no good when there's a clear solution to all of your issues. You can just opt out of the experience at any moment of your choosing.
Anonymous No.24854950 [Report]
>>24850043
Houllebecq discusses this himself, retard. It's a major theme of his
Anonymous No.24854951 [Report] >>24855001
>>24854948
I said don't reply. You are too stupid to get it.
Anonymous No.24855001 [Report]
>>24854951
Or else what buddyboy.
Truly i'm too stupid to know that everything is fake and gay and nothing matters and no one should do anything because there is no point EXCEPT for bitching and moaning
Anonymous No.24855012 [Report]
>>24849594
Foucault, that you?
Anonymous No.24856974 [Report]
>>24849203 (OP)
From which of his books is that passage from?