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Anonymous No.24849811 [Report] >>24849860 >>24849999 >>24851440 >>24851453 >>24852488 >>24852682 >>24854069 >>24856208
Most overrated book of all time.
Anonymous No.24849834 [Report] >>24852682
i like the part where the retard eats poop lol
Anonymous No.24849860 [Report] >>24849878 >>24851255
>>24849811 (OP)
>t.
Anonymous No.24849878 [Report] >>24851255
>>24849860
It's insane how dull these guys' channel and podcast are. The videos are like an hour and a half long and it seems like they somehow seem to talk about absolutely nothing for the entirety.
Anonymous No.24849999 [Report]
>>24849811 (OP)
The part of the legion of horribles was brutal, especially those savages raping the injured and the corpses.
Anonymous No.24850293 [Report]
Why?
Anonymous No.24850322 [Report] >>24850853 >>24852488
Why didn't the kid kill the Judge when he had multiple opportunities? Was he retarded?
Anonymous No.24850373 [Report]
Go back to /v/ or /tv/ whichever coaxed you into reading it and stay there
Anonymous No.24850388 [Report]
Nobody really knows about this book once you step outside
Anonymous No.24850853 [Report]
>>24850322
hate to bump this shitty thread but the kid never really had the opportunity. in the desert, the judge always knew where the kid was and had his rifle at the ready. the kid couldn't count on his shots landing or drawing on him quicker. he knew the judge was far more skilled (and lucky) and that he'd be dead if his first shot missed
and he couldn't kill the judge before the ferry massacre since he was still a valuable member of the group
Anonymous No.24850937 [Report]
Why why why why why why why why why why
Anonymous No.24851255 [Report] >>24851368
>>24849860
>>24849878
I remember they had an episode going through some "greatest books of all time" lists and it was just an hour of them saying that they've never read the most famous books ever written.
They also got a question from a viewer asking what their favorite pre-19th century books were and they couldn't come up with an answer. My favorite hate-watch channel.
Anonymous No.24851368 [Report]
>>24851255
>My favorite hate-watch channel.
Rofl same. I watched a similar episode recently but of the 21st century and it was just them saying they've never read most of them but then still deciding whether or not the books should be on the list. Then if anyone posts any criticism at all the bearded cueball guy makes a snide insult
Anonymous No.24851375 [Report] >>24854045
Third time I’ve seen this thread in the last week
Anonymous No.24851440 [Report] >>24851467
>>24849811 (OP)
The only way some people get famous is hyperbole shitting on clearly talented things and people for rage clicks. Is it transgressive now to hate corncob because everyone on this board likes him?
Anonymous No.24851453 [Report] >>24851472 >>24852488
>>24849811 (OP)
Their way led now through dwarf oak and ilex and over a stony ground where black
trees stood footed in the seams on the slopes. They rode through sunlight and high
grass and in the late afternoon they came out upon an escarpment that seemed to rim
the known world. Below them in the paling light smol ered the plains of San Agustin
stretching away to the northeast, the earth floating off in a long curve silent under
looms of smoke from the underground coal deposits burning there a thousand years.
The horses picked their way along the rim with care and the riders cast varied glances
out upon that ancient and naked land.

They rode onto the plain at dawn as the judge had said and that night they could see
the fire of the Mexicans reflected in the sky to the east beyond the curve of the earth.
All the day following they rode and all that night, jerking and lurching like a deputation
of spastics as they slept in their saddles. On the morning of the third day they could
see the riders before them on the plain in silhouette against the sun and in the evening
they could count their number struggling upon that desolate mineral waste. When the
sun rose the walls of the city stood pale and thin in the rising light twenty miles to the
east.
Anonymous No.24851467 [Report] >>24852378
>>24851440
He's just not that good
Anonymous No.24851472 [Report] >>24851523 >>24851639 >>24851652
>>24851453
So much gay and cringey shit in here
>glances upon that ancient and naked land
>jerking and lurching like a deputation of spastics (barf)
>rimmed the known world

It rimmed the known world all right
Anonymous No.24851523 [Report] >>24851791
>>24851472
is your favorite author Hemmingway? Nothing really happens here, they go from one part of some land to another, it could be cut without impacting the story and yet long passages like this describing the land are integral to the story.
Anonymous No.24851639 [Report]
>>24851472
A Sanderson fan, eh?
Anonymous No.24851652 [Report]
>>24851472
Damn maybe the Bible is more to your speed then mr. Straight Puritan
Anonymous No.24851791 [Report] >>24851808
>>24851523
Sure but does it have to be so cringe and gay?
Anonymous No.24851808 [Report] >>24851813 >>24852173
>>24851791
>does it have to be so cringe and gay?
Afraid of a little sincerity son? Free yourself from the zoomer irony poisoning that you have been subjected to.
Anonymous No.24851813 [Report]
>>24851808
Fuck off dad
Anonymous No.24852173 [Report]
>>24851808
got him. You read his soul like a gypsy
Anonymous No.24852378 [Report]
>>24851467
No, it's that you're just retarded
Anonymous No.24852405 [Report]
Zoomers have limited vocabulary
Anonymous No.24852488 [Report] >>24852700
>>24849811 (OP)
It was peak. So many moments hold so much power. Like the allegory of the sun and the moon in the sky are two sides of a looking glass
>>24850322
In the chase he was completely on the defensive. The kid has a code he adheres to and saw shooting the judge as shooting an unarmed man. That might even be why the judge tried to shoot him, the judge desires to corrupt his soul and destroy his code.
>>24851453
I like how he writes about the west. Almost like they've journeyed into another dimension or hell itself.
The scene with the burning tree was something else
Anonymous No.24852682 [Report] >>24856515
>>24849811 (OP)
Its another
>great book you like is actually le bad
Thread.

Somewhat ironically every time haters make a thread about blood meridian people just end up discussing their favorite parts of it lol.

>>24849834
I like the part where the judge gets away clean with all his crimes and never recieves his comeuppance. Although it is pretty funny when glanton scolds him
Anonymous No.24852700 [Report] >>24852733 >>24852735 >>24856515
>>24852488
>I like how he writes about the west. Almost like they've journeyed into another dimension or hell itself.

Supposedly he didn't even do it justice to how violent the old west really was. Up until blood meridian there was always that kind of romanticized version of the west with good guys and bad guys and the good guys always fight honorably and win the fight, etc. I mean probably for the average person who wasnt on the frontier it wasnt that bad, but outside the civilized areas things were pretty bad. Its one of the reasons american culture to this day is still very violent and obsessed with guns and the idea of independence, because in the old west those things were important. You needed to protect yourself from hostile others and starvation and so on and there wasnt much in the way of outside help you could rely on.
Anonymous No.24852733 [Report]
>>24852700
huh?
Anonymous No.24852735 [Report]
>>24852700
Right, the 2nd amendment doesn't go back 100 years before the expansion of the West or anything.
McCarthyfags are so gullible
Anonymous No.24853042 [Report] >>24853224
They led him through the narrow mud streets and he could hear music like a fanfare growing the louder. First children walked with him and then old folk and finally a throng of brown-skinned villagers all dressed in white cotton like attendants in an institution, the women in dark rebozos, some with their breasts exposed, their faces stained red with almagre, smoking small cigars. Their numbers swelled and the guards with their shouldered fusils frowned and shouted at the jostlers and they went on along the tall adobe wall of a church and into the plaza.

There was a bazaar in progress. A traveling medicine show, a primitive circus. They passed stout willow cages clogged with vipers, with great limegreen serpents from some more southerly latitude or beaded lizards with their black mouths wet with venom. A reedy old leper held up handfuls of tapeworms from a jar for all to see and cried out his medicines against them and they were pressed about by other rude apothecaries and by vendors and mendicants until all came at last before a trestle whereon stood a glass carboy of clear mescal. In this container with hair afloat and eyes turned upward in a pale face sat a human head.

They dragged him forward with shouts and gestures. Mire, mire, they cried. He stood before the jar and they urged his consideration of it and they tilted it around so that the head should face him. It was Captain White. Lately at war among the heathen. The kid looked into the drowned and sightless eyes of his old commander. He looked about at the villagers and at the soldiers, their eyes all upon him, and he spat and wiped his mouth. He aint no kin to me, he said.
Anonymous No.24853224 [Report] >>24853969 >>24856522
>>24853042
Captain white was a fucking retard
He reminds me of the kinda old fucking boomer retired cop that wants to feel like he's still at his old job. Smirking "we might just see some action today" before getting all the dipshits that followed him into the desert raped to death by Indians while he ran away to get beheaded by Mexican soldiers
Anonymous No.24853969 [Report]
>>24853224
You weren't built for literature
Anonymous No.24854045 [Report]
>>24851375
my main character vibes and watched the wendigon vid last week
Anonymous No.24854069 [Report] >>24854168 >>24854258 >>24854264
>>24849811 (OP)
It was fine. If you cut out all of the violence, no one on here would have given it a second thought. The central theme of the novel is that all men by their base nature are prone to chaos rather than order (the uneducated savages wearing the Army coats backward) and that the concept of order is something external to them. McCarthy says as much with the Judge doing all of the collecting, drawing, and collecting (of things and experiences) during the book. The Judge is the one imposing his order, his rules, on the group and the World at large.

Again, if you remove all the scalping, boiling tongues in mouths, docked ears, hangings, etc - it's a pretty pedestrian theme.
Anonymous No.24854168 [Report]
>>24854069
OK
Anonymous No.24854258 [Report]
>>24854069
>midwit filtered
You have no idea lol
Anonymous No.24854264 [Report] >>24854404
>>24854069
You're right about it being overrated, but you also got it totally wrong
Anonymous No.24854401 [Report] >>24855562
When they left the cantina ten minutes later the streets were deserted. They had scalped the entire body of the dead, sliding about in a floor that had been packed clay and was now a wine-colored mud. There were twenty-eight Mexicans inside the tavern and eight more in the street including the five the expriest had shot. They mounted up. Grimley sat slumped sideways against the mud wall of the building. He did not look up. He was holding his pistol in his lap and looking off down the street and they turned and rode out along the north side of the plaza and disappeared.

...


It was thirty minutes before anyone appeared in the street. They spoke in whispers. As they approached the cantina one of the men from inside appeared in the doorway like a bloody apparition. He had been scalped and the blood was all run down into his eyes and he was holding shut a huge hole in his chest where a pink froth breathed in and out. One of the citizens laid a hand on his shoulder.

A donde vas? he said.
A casa, said the man.
Anonymous No.24854404 [Report] >>24854460
>>24854264
>cites examples from the text to support the theme
>U got it wrong! It's about God cause judge is white!

Stay in the YA and manga sections, please.
Anonymous No.24854460 [Report]
>>24854404
It's not about that either
Anonymous No.24855562 [Report]
>>24854401
The last line is so funny to me if you read it as he’s grumpily going home after being shot and scalped
Anonymous No.24856208 [Report]
>>24849811 (OP)
>Most overrated book of all time.
But thats not The Great Gatsby?
Anonymous No.24856515 [Report] >>24856587 >>24856599
>>24852682
>Although it is pretty funny when glanton scolds him
I don't remember that. Doesn't Toadvine at one point? When does Glanton?

>>24852700
I don't know man. Cormac is a certifiable edgelord. I would be surprised if it was worse than he described. Eventually I will get around to reading the memoirs from the guy who was in the real Glanton Gang and see.
Anonymous No.24856522 [Report]
>>24853224
That's part of what made Glanton and them so impressive at first. Their competence and respect for the foe in comparison to White.
Anonymous No.24856587 [Report] >>24856599
>>24856515
Of course he exagerrated it. If people actually lived the way Cornfuck writes them no one would ever survive. It'd be death by Indian or fuckin suicide
Anonymous No.24856599 [Report] >>24856614 >>24856776
>>24856515
The guy from the real glanton gang was a liar. Sepich did historical research behind the book and claims that McCarthy toned down the actual frontier violence
>>24856587
You're so retarded
Anonymous No.24856614 [Report] >>24857636
>>24856599
>The guy from the real glanton gang was a liar. Sepich did historical research behind the book and claims that McCarthy toned down the actual frontier violence

You're so retarded. Once you hit the age of accountability and realize how distorted McCarthy's view of the world actually is you'll dial it back a bit.
Anonymous No.24856776 [Report]
>>24856599
She's right that no one would survive, the best you could say are these are exemplary hyperviolent sociopaths and that they are the exception rather than the rule, you would need decades for ordinary society to provide the material on which they enact their violence, it can't be the ordinary way of life but might be something you find in certain times and places

I still like the book, there doesn't need to be actual hyperviolence for the threat and impulse of it to be lurking within man, the universe is still a cold place that is indifferent to you
Anonymous No.24857636 [Report] >>24857666 >>24857718
>>24856614
>"noooo you can't use legitimate historical sources"
Are you like genuinely retarded or something? Like it's a fucking fact that the book is less violent than what actually went on at the frontier. You can't make it go away by closing your eyes or by being too retarded for a writer's work. Go back to rebbit and stay there, retard.
Anonymous No.24857666 [Report] >>24857690
>>24857636
>Like it's a fucking fact that the book is less violent than what actually went on at the frontier.
Lol no. Dead baby trees with branches through their throats and raping dead scalpless people wasn't a thing
Anonymous No.24857690 [Report] >>24857851
>>24857666
>it wasn't because I said so
Okay retard. Try reading books.
Anonymous No.24857718 [Report] >>24857780
>>24857636
It is not a fact, it's just something you keep saying over and over again.
Anonymous No.24857780 [Report]
>>24857718
>retard can't even read books
The book has literally been quoted in the thread, retard. Go and read it if you know how to do it. All the sources are there. Meanwhile your sources are your butthurt and your 2 retarded braincells.
Anonymous No.24857841 [Report] >>24857970
the judge is literally the devil or some shit? I didnt really get the ending seemed to just get a bit stupid with the symbolism
Anonymous No.24857851 [Report] >>24857889
>>24857690
Cite a dead baby tree from a book
Anonymous No.24857889 [Report] >>24858140
>>24857851
Read the book
Anonymous No.24857901 [Report] >>24857942
I don't get the idea that it is a highly rated book (I'm not American)
most highly over rated book to me seams like it'd be Joyce's Ulysses (haven't actually read it, but I've read Portrait of a Young Artist and another of his that is very short and both sucked) - pseuds love outdated mid books, at least Blood Merridian fulfills its duty as a form of entertainment and is entertaining
fiction as high art is dumb especially when it fails at both the high art and entertaining aspect; I'd say Gravity's Rainbow is a good example of fulfilling both, as is Blood Meridian but it's more degrading type of poncy wankery whereas Gravity's Rainbow is light hearted and not so serious therefor Pynchon is far less of a ponce than McCarthy
Anonymous No.24857942 [Report] >>24857974
>>24857901
Gravity's rainbow is shit. It's not high art in the least.
Anonymous No.24857970 [Report]
>>24857841
He is Darwinian reality anthropomorphized
Anonymous No.24857974 [Report] >>24858038 >>24859150
>>24857942
lmao filtered
Anonymous No.24858038 [Report] >>24858111
>>24857974
>fiction as high art is dumb
>lmao filtered
The neurosis of the Pynchon apologist
Anonymous No.24858111 [Report]
>>24858038
Don't need to apologize for brilliance
Anonymous No.24858140 [Report]
>>24857889
NTA but are you saying there is an actual dead baby tree in the book? Please be clear.
Anonymous No.24859150 [Report] >>24859201
>>24857974
>filtered by chudchon
Lel. My taste for high art protects me from trash like pynchon
Anonymous No.24859201 [Report]
>>24859150
OK