Thread 24854383

I've gotten about half a dozen short stories and about a dozen poems published under my own name. Mostly in small venues, and only one ever paid me serious money. I've tried to get published at some of the big dog places like the New Yorker and the Paris Review, but no dice. This despite one of my poems actually being nominated for a Pushcart Prize a few years ago.

I have a major work I've been working on in installments for five years now, and there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to take a chance on publishing the first book, so my plan is to put it up on a website I'm having built tailor-made for it, sections at a time, releasing it serially. Fortunately I have a decent social media presence which should hopefully help me slowly build an audience, if people think the story is good.

None of the big dogs seem to want to take a chance on me so I'm going to try to get my stuff out into the world myself.

How'd you get your start? I'm thinking about sending a handful of poems I've written to some small magazines so that I can make a little bit of some money at the very least.

>>24854383 (OP)
>I have a major work I've been working on in installments for five years now, and there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to take a chance on publishing the first book, so my plan is to put it up on a website I'm having built tailor-made for it, sections at a time, releasing it serially.
I had the exact same idea. I've had less published than you and no following as I don't have social media, and the path to publishing just seems brutal. Besides, my book deals a good bit with the Internet and it seems fitting to release it for free on here

>>24854395
Oh, and good luck OP

>>24854394
Most poetry is unpaid unless you send to the big magazines, and then you have to be a trans mulatto.

>>24854383 (OP)
>put it up on a website I'm having built tailor-made for it
has this ever worked for anybody? i don't see how you'd have a better chance with this than just pushing an ebook

>>24854383 (OP)
Cool story, OP. I hope you make it!

You gonna shill it on 4chan when it's ready to go?

>>24854427
Is it harder to make a livelihood out of writing than it was in the past?

>>24854438
I'm not OP, but back in the day I used to be a pretty serious fanfic writer. One thing about fanfiction is that it's ALL serialized; I've never known a major fanfic that wasn't released chapters at a time over days, weeks, and months, with gaps between each chapter. What I learned from years of doing this is that if you maintain a regular release schedule, and perhaps interact with the commentators some, you can gradually build up a fandom for your work, and this is quite nice when it comes to making a name for yourself as a writer. Within some of the fandoms I wrote in I eventually became something of a major writer, precisely because I usually kept a regular update schedule, I regularly interacted with my fans, and I knew how to break up the story into chapters that would leave people hanging, and wanting more. It's always important to know how to end a chapter to keep your audience coming back, and this was a skill I perfected.

If it can work for fanfiction I don't see why it can't work for original fiction, too. In fact it has worked for original fiction in the past; when Dickens serialized the Pickwick Papers it caused a sensation all over London, with mobs forming for the release of the next installment and even counterfeit installments rapidly spreading around London selling a fake story before the actual installment could be released.

It could work and it has worked, in both fanfiction and original fiction. You've just got to know what you're doing, and have a little luck.

>>24854456
huh?

>>24854383 (OP)
Can you tell me if this is any good?
https://voca.ro/1goV2ntuzPnD

I can post it in text if it's unintelligible.

Mercy bow kew, mown shay reeeeeeeeeeee

>>24854511
You just lost your first serial rights by posting it.

>>24854456
excuse >>24854468, he is clearly retarded.
Besides that, Ao3 has a thriving original-work ... I don't know if I want to call it a "community". But you can probably get your fans of the fanfix over to your original work. Then they'll pay you to read more of it on Amazon.
I mean, the "Princess of the Void" serial got such a fanbase when the guy reposted it on RoyalRoad, it rocketed to the top of the rankings in a week. No way that happens unless he'd done the legwork over on Scribblehub first, gaining followers.

>>24854383 (OP)

did you query it to agents? how do you know nobody wants to take a chance on it?

>>24854456
thing is pickwick was published in a major publication. the OP is talking about making his own website. pushing traffic to your own website is a serious endeavor. i can see royalroad and other platforms working but only as long as the fiction is genre

>>24854543
I think it COULD work if you really did have a decent social media presence. A few thousand followers on at least one platform, decent followings on others.

Of course, if your story sucked it would all be for naught. But if it's any good you might be able to catch fire.

>>24854519
my what?

>>24854511
what a retarded bird. No wait-

>>24854511
well read, nigga. what accent is this?

>>24854383 (OP)
If you're a man I suggest getting a pseudonym under a female name. The literature industry nowadays are predominantly ruled by female authors and female readers and structural discrimination and gatekeeping of male readers and authors. This is no mgtow red pill. There are plenty of articles about this. So yeah, pretend to be a female and you'll get showered with praise

>>24854511
I like it, but it feels a bit amateurish in its execution. Its way too descriptive. It's basically a serialization of events, so in my opinion it lacks cohesion.
Accent is nice.

>>24855288
I am pondering using my wife to publish my poems, then some day start publishing under my own name out of the blue.

>>24854444
checked
it's impossible to make a living with anything today, you can exclusively make a living by grifting in its respective field of competence
if you want to be a writer, you have to grift your way into writing
if you want to be a musician, you have to grift your way into music
that's it. you have to be a massive whore and a fraud and an exploitative opportunistic piece of shit first, and then whatever you want to do

>>24854383 (OP)
why is OP pic so hot

>>24855556
the high-test male yearns to deflower virgins

I am 27 I only got published in one quite small thing so far is it over for me

>>24855345
What is our way out of this?

>>24855638
I am twenty years older than you and have never been published. It is not over for us, fren. Not yet.

>>24855228
kek
>>24855228
i guess irish and drunk
>>24855289
I mean in the original its dutch and it was less wordy

>>24855233
meant to tell you, its irish and drunk