Thread 24856550

The real redpill of literature is that this book is the most prescient dystopian sci-fi novel of the 20th century, not 1984 or Brave New World. Also it's insanely readable, unlike Huxley's turgid prose and Orwell's glacial pacing.

>>24856550 (OP)
It's great, except it should've ended after the conversation with Beatty. After it sort of shoots its philosophical load, it doesn't have much juice left in it.

>>24856550 (OP)
I couldn't get through that book. Tried twice.

>>24856550 (OP)

Except it didn’t come true and that is why it will always be inferior to 1984 and why 1984 remains such a prophetic vision of hell. Unalive, chest feeding, this man has always been a woman, China was once our friend but now it is our enemy. Instead of book burning authoritarians are flooding the zone with gish gallop, we swim in information and cannot find the truth.

>>24856625
...The point of F451 wasn't authoritarianism and book burnings, it was that people stopped reading, and the government said, "oh, the people find they cause more problems than they solve... we'll oblige them." It was that there was no longer anyone who /would/ read that was the issue. It's incredibly prescient. Did you actually read the work...?

>>24856630
>Did you actually read the work...?
Ok you make some good points but I read 1984 two weeks ago so it's still fresh as hell while I haven't read 451 in awhile.

>>24856550 (OP)
the coolest part was story telling returning to oral tradition after the nukes

>>24856550 (OP)
BNW did a better job of predicting the future. F451 infers the government eventually steps in because of a power vacuum created by the people. BNW shows how the government doesn't even need to step in - people will censor themselves.

>>24857604
That is, if you take the whole genetic conditioning to be a metaphor, because the government in BNW does a whole lot of work to make sure the people don't even have the capacity for dissent.

1984 is prophetic, to the point you think that Orwell wrote this book last year.