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Anonymous No.24859983 [Report] >>24859986 >>24860038 >>24860102 >>24860141 >>24860432
I’m 38 yo male (surgery is on Tuesday) and I never knew much about Faulkner. I’ve been hearing about Hemingway propaganda since a kid and obviously did required reading on him in school.
I got into fiction recently and read Faulkner’s short stories on a whim. Caused me to read up on him because I was blown away. This is when I ran into the history of Faulkner and Hemingway and how they were both leading literary figures during their time but wrote radically different. There was some tension between them.
Made sense.
I just finished Hemingway short stories. Wasn’t really interested in comparing the two but I couldn’t get over how much Hemingway sucked.
I’ve known about his iceberg method of writing and how the alt right bros like Shane Gillis love him for being short and stoic but it just sounds pretentious and empty.
As soon as I read the barn fire story, I was gripped and full of questions. Those questions still linger. I’m not even a writer but it made rethink how to tell a story.
Hemingway doesn’t make me question anything. It’s not intriguing. I don’t want to explore his iceberg and what lays below. He thinks he’s some brave mysterious hero but it comes off as some dork in a fedora and a graphic tee drinking beer at a bar alone. Of course he was a manly man that went to war and boxed and all that but he seems really shallow.
Anonymous No.24859986 [Report] >>24860103
>>24859983 (OP)
Shane Gillis reads?
Anonymous No.24860038 [Report]
>>24859983 (OP)
I completely agree with you. Faulkner blows Hemingway out of the water. There's just nothing there in Hemingway terms of prose. Like, why have minimalist literature? The whole point of literature is to be beautiful and sublime.
Anonymous No.24860102 [Report]
>>24859983 (OP)
>surgery
Anonymous No.24860103 [Report] >>24860144
>>24859986
>he doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYaXfhjgpo
Anonymous No.24860141 [Report] >>24860502
>>24859983 (OP)
Faulkner is considered a joke outside burgerland.
Anonymous No.24860144 [Report] >>24860158
>>24860103
Okay, so Louis CK reads books about US presidents. Now what?
Anonymous No.24860158 [Report] >>24860215
>>24860144
I am sorry I thought /lit/ was filled with triple digit iq people. I didn't mean to overwhelm you, but if you can find the mental fortitude to pay attention for another moment you might discover that the person talking to Louis CK about presidents for 6 hours is Shane Gillis who is the person mentioned in the earlier post where it was asked about whether he reads. I hope that helps you connect the dots you stupid fucking cunt.
Anonymous No.24860215 [Report] >>24860237
>>24860158
I asked if Shane Gillis reads. You reply by sending a podcast about US presidents in which Louis CK is clearly the only one to have actually read books about the subject matter. Feel to try again, though!
Anonymous No.24860237 [Report]
>>24860215
>6 hour video
>at most charitable an hour and six minutes between posts
>clearly
>feel to try again
Well, at least you tried.
https://www.mssecretpodcast.com/secret-texts/
>inb4 Louis CK recommended all of those as well.
Anonymous No.24860432 [Report]
>>24859983 (OP)
faulkner damn near the goat, breh
'bout time you came to understand that
check out the sound and the fury
Anonymous No.24860476 [Report]
I‘m gonna racebait because of the OP pic (which I don‘t understand) and because I just finished Go Down, Moses which was full of that. Kinda weird that Absalom, Absalom! came so near to treating the American history of social and literal miscegenation as a sort of metaphysical terror where the sins of the fathers threaten a doom to us all; while GDM is kinda flattering to the bleggs by casting them as a group who will be strengthened by being up against odds while Whites slacken with complacency. I‘d say history has given a mixed validation of this but you can see his theories of slow integration and Southern ethnogenesis as a group inherently about 80% White coming to the fore which was a disappointing drop-off from AA. I liked the early parts of The Bear and some of Delta Autumn which can read specifically a call for White Americans to reacquaint with nature and shake off overcivilization though—Faulkner is at his best where he‘s moralizing in this suggestion rather than demoralizing that it isn‘t happening.

Still better than Hemmingway who has all of the weaknesses with none of the strengths in any event lool
Anonymous No.24860502 [Report]
>>24860141
By whom? For what reason? What is the criticism?