>/m/ (/wing/) never talks about Gundam X

Is it that bad?

oh look he brought his bar code scanner home from work. hope his boss doesn't mind.

>>23217339 (OP)
No, it's honestly peak. I'll give that other series occasionally spike higher, but no other series avoids *fucking up* as well as X does. Every other series with comparable highs comes with crippling flaws in writing or production. Only G, 08th, Stardust, and the OG are as successful at avoiding crippling mistakes as X.

Also it was eviscerating "muh understanding" unironic contolism in real life faggotry when the franchise had only gotten started on that shit.

It was cancelled, that should tell you all you need to know.

>In the key Kanto region, the show was moved in its TV Asahi broadcast from a Friday afternoon 5:00 PM timeslot to a Saturday morning 6:00 AM timeslot starting with episode 27. The show lasted 39 episodes of its intended 49.

Grim

>>23217339 (OP)
Considering how little trouble we have going on long tirades about things we find sub par in quality you should find a lack of discussion as a positive.

>>23217339 (OP)
I hate the design of literally every Gundam expect for the X and its offshoots, but most of the grunts and other MS are decent. Its biggest criticism is that it's thought of as being plodding, boring, and too small in scale to be interesting. There's some great character work: In a franchise that is absolute DRIPPING in Char expies, it bucks the trend by doing a take on the Amuro archetype instead, and Jamil is very easily the most interesting part of the show as a result.

The main character annoys me. He's like Duo's less funny younger brother that never stops shouting or sperging.
Most of the side characters annoy me too except for Jamil and Techcs. Tiffa was raised by a pack of wild dolphins and doesn't know how to dress herself. Also everyone has plot armor except for the bad guys. Animation looks cheap as well you can tell they never had much faith in it even starting out.

I honestly think the worst part about the show, was that Garrod is the main character. Not that he is a bad character by any means, but he was one of the least interesting characters in the show overall, but got almost all the spotlight.

Most of the other cast have better backstories and could have more going on. His overachieving thief skills and hyper active personality are too much.

It's like they were trying to ZZ this series, and focus more on the humor instead... Since Wing was trying to be all serious and angsty, and G being a Super Robot show was over the top already.

I'm personally not a big fan of it, but it's not bad, and certainly far from the worst thing Gundam has done.

>>23217339 (OP)
look at all the hype on G-Bitch, GCucks, Wing and Seed.

most Gundam fans are unironic faggots and X didn't give them any gay moments.
it feels bad being a straight person in a totally gay fanbase

>>23218974
Is that a tranny

>>23218974
there's nothing gay about Wang

>>23219003
i know, but fujos see two males saying good morning to each other and they start shipping them as super gay couples

>>23218974
You forgot every troons favorite show Zeta

>>23219339
>But the characters are a breath of fresh air (even the villains)
Even the Frost Bros?

>>23219355
Shit like this is why Tomino apologized for Zeta.

>>23219473
The Frost brothers being petty, seething egomaniacs is honestly the best part because of how it emphasizes that all this newtype faggotry is bullshit. They have this huge complex over where they stand in terms of newtype power and buying into all this shit about how powerful it makes them VS seething about stronger newtypes than them, but despite being mid-tier newtypes they successfully nearly fuck everyone over anyway because contolism is nonsense bullshit only to then get dumpstered by an oldtype to reinforce that.

Plus Quattro and Kamille as villains is in general just a massively fun time.

>>23219190
>completely missing the point of the post
>he's completely unaware of the existence of fujobait
You fags are so retarded.

>>23219355

>>23219003
Correct. There is nothing gay about Wing.

>>23217339 (OP)
4chan rarely talks about things it likes. It was my favorite Gundam until 00 came out and I still rank it highly. I especially like how Garrod wins by being a clever bastard rather than Newtype Hax or an OP gundam. TiffaXGarrod is also the only time I've seem Gundam pull off romance with any success.

>>23221086
>annoying kid decides he's in love with an autistic rei ripoff 15 minutes after meeting her
sure why not

>>23221095
>didn't watch the show
Everytime.
Garrod didn't fall for Tiffa until the 3rd episode.

>>23221086
I like how they show you how horrifying a new type awakening in the middle of a battle looks like. It's such a shame it's very unlikely to get a remake since the space arc had some interesting concepts like Jamil's Char. Frost brothers are one of the best antagonists in Gundam for how insane they are. X still remains my favorite AU and it's very unlikely to change.

>>23221134
Okay sorry it was more like 45 minutes

>>23220722
>>23221086
>4chan rarely talks about things it likes
but we talk about GWang all the time..

>>23218974
the Frost Brothers strike me as massively gay though

>>23218181
So was 0079

>>23218844
>the problem is he's too based for me to relate to

>>23218844
I agree that Garrod needed more backstory, maybe a family member to expand his character or goals scope, but he's not a bad character.
i can understand his super-robot-protagonist nature can turn off people who expect more autistics kids with super powers. but then again, the director wanted X to be the opposite of everything happened in Gundam

>>23218833
The only problem I see with Garrod for what I've watched so far (up to ep 21) is during that first dolphin episode, he covers his eyes seeing Tiffa in the nude (albeit not right away), then opens his eyes back up. Would Tiffa care if she knew? Does this mean their relationship shouldn't go on? Does this make Garrod based? I don't know.

Call me a t. but that's the only big problem I have with the show so far, overall I'm enjoying it. Also Double X is a beautiful Gundam (yeah yeah I'm not at the episode yet but I've built its kit).

Is there some nip out there that has compiled every single time Olba says "brother"? In one episode alone I counted at least 7, I think 9 times that he said it and I remember laughing.

>>23231581
he's gay
he's using tifa as his autistic newtype beard

>>23231581
>Also Double X is a beautiful Gundam
baaaaaaaaaaased

>just start watching this today
>click on /m/
>X thread
nice

>>23226203
So was Ideon, Mospeada, Sasuraiger, Daimos, and a ton of other mecha anime but X-tards only care about the show because of that. Westerners love the idea of Japan not appreciating their own anime they'd even believe their own lies about something like Cowboy Bebop was a pariah in its country of origin. If X got its full run people would just see it as a mediocre AU.

>>23231705
>If X got its full run people would just see it as a mediocre AU
I mean that's how people see it right now.

>>23217339 (OP)
No, it's excellent. However, as others have mentioned, in general here on 4channel we don't talk about stuff that's widely liked so often. I think it's an excellent show all around, it's such a different show compared to so many other Gundam entries in so many good ways, but it really got shafted unfairly in many ways. It's a damn shame.

>>23231736
It's trash mate.

>>23231593
He says it so much that it unironically kinda traumatized his VA, which I find hilarious.

>>23231705
>>23231725
>>23231760
If X was a person, I would feel it raped your mothers seeing your aggressive hate towards it

>>23217339 (OP)
instead of being offensively bad like Wing, X is just really (sadly) mediocre
Jamil still haunts my imagination years later, though, fucking love this guy

>>23217339 (OP)
There is a reason it got cancelled and had less episodes than norm for a Gundam anime during it's time period. Certain people overrate it and claim it better than it actually was.

>>23233541
Jamil need to stop being as asshole and stop wearing his sunglasses indoors and at night.

>>23221344
It's just platonic friendship between mentally weak brothers with a victimhood complex. .

/m/ insists the show is ignored by everyone but I always see it talked about on here
Victory is the show that actually is ignored (and in my opinion is pretty forgettable in general, X was pretty decent all in all by comparison)

>>23233629
>Those three newtype goons the Frost Bros sent after the team just felt like the show trying to make mecha designs quota.
They were made to give the staff more time to convert the show from 49 to 39 episodes long.
They weren't bad though.
X's weakest part is the first 3 episodes. They weren't remarkable and the animation was worse than Wing's for some reason.
I loved the town to town setting in anime. Makes it feel like an RPG game

>>23231935
Sauce? I wanna hear about this.

>>23231705
You're so fucking MAD lols

>>23233591
>There is a reason it got cancelled

Because it got shunted to a deathslot.

>>23238447
Yeah they knew the show was going to be fucking bad.

>>23238457
X jizzed on your brain so hard you're simping for TV execs.

>>23238486
X is so shit you have been coping about it for years.

>XRager meltdown
Tale as old as time.

>>23238495
Yeah pretty old because you have been spamming for years, doesn't matter though, it won't change the fact X is shit.

>>23238489
>no you

brilliant

It would be a great gundam show if wing didn't exist. It just feels like a bland copy. One if the villains is fucking treize with red hair.

DX is an ugly suit but thankfully we have the perfected version of it in Freedom Gundam.

>>23238561
You never watched X or Wing. Possibly both.

It's always funny seeing this troll going ape shit crazy about X for days lol

>>23233617
>but I always see it talked about on here
It used to be pretty ignored until some schizo obsessed with it made it his life's mission to spam the board with monthly X threads.

>>23217339 (OP)
Every character who isn't Garrod or Tifa is frustratingly unmemorable, and the mobile suits outside of the Gundam X models don't get to do much either, not even the other Gundams.

>>23238834
No what happened is some melt decided GX was his archenemy.

>>23239249
Jamil is great too - although not according to the Japanese fanbase since Tiffa is the only character that pops up in popularity polls and merch alongside Garrod. Actually never got why she's specially popular.

It felt too "episodic" for me. I mention it quite a bit but I feel like IBO and it should've changed plot structure. IBO felt too "story focused" while X just felt like it's arc of the week.

>>23238834
Monthly X threads > hourly yuri fetish coom spam

>>23218537
Time slot changes to graveyard times is always sabotage. Networks never get called out on this enough. We know you wanted to cancel the show so you make an excuse to cancel it by sabotaging it to an hour it cannot be watched. It's this time slot shenanigan every fucking time, you networks can't ever let the show fail because you the problem isn't with the show, it's that your big fucking ego and its grand vision of the network cannot stand to have a foreign object on your network.

Producers really need to lock into contracts that time slot changes can't be done with the program.

>>23239354
>Jamil is great too

Is he though?

I WANT to like Jamil, but he's mostly just the "commander with PTSD" trope and very little else. Half the time I mistake him for Andrew Waltfeld at first glance.

I watched the whole fucking show and even made an AMV from it
it is not memorable except for maybe the colrel fight, the bertigo fight, the beam clash at the end, and maybe the DOME gimmick

>>23217339 (OP)
>(/wing/)
This is a Unicorn forum, moron.

>>23239449
I mean, that's what mostly happens nowadays. You hardly see anything timeslot changes or cancellations mid-airing in anime now - only exception is when the production falls apart and they literally can't put out episodes for the weeks where they should be airing, but that's fairly rare.

In Gundam X's, the case the whole block where it aired was killed midway through, and since Gunpla sales were down Bandai didn't see any point in attempt to invest more to buy a better timeslot for the remaining episodes.

>>23239307
>>23239410
Nice samefag, now could you please kys?

>>23242382
I mean, he came years before Andrew, so that'd be criticism of Andrew, not Jamil. He also gets over his trauma in the Fort Severn arc, so fairly early, jumping into the battlefield several times later on. In spite of that though, you still the whole "carrying the weight of the destruction of the war but fighting in spite of that" attitude, like when he goes look at the Double X (standing in for his original X unit) before leaving to fight in the Divider in the Estardo arc.

He's also part of the series' whole message - which starts framing his whole "gather newtypes to lead to a better future" goal as correct, but by the end that's completely criticized and broken down as a fantasy that just moves the goal away from people working for a better future themselves and he let's go of it (although admittedly during the post cancellation episodes, so it all goes quickly).

>>23218833
You just know...

>>23217339 (OP)
>Is it that bad?
it's globally accepted that the series is underrated gem and among the best Gundam shows.
trolls here are irrelevant

>>23242440
You're mentally ill.

Why would I talk about anything I like on this board when you just get 10 people replying how shit it is

>>23250307
Because it ruins dem bitches.

>>23243236
no lies detected

>>23217339 (OP)
yes it’s cancelled trash

>>23217339 (OP)
I think its the 5th best Gundam

>>23217339 (OP)
It's super mediocre. It has a great setting it completely squanders and the worst main villains ever. The Mobile Suit designs are all super derivative, X and DX are the only good one.

>>23264169
nah you are

>>23267720
>X and Double X
>the only good one

Another midwit filtered.

>>23239354
>Actually never got why she's specially popular.
Cute girl, thats all it takes really

>>23217339 (OP)
/m/ told me Gundam X sucked big time, worse than Gundam SEED Destiny, so I deleted it off my hard drive

>>23274397
>believing some trolls from /u/
yikes

>>23242382
Jamil is basically [Quatro Bajeena, he is A AMURO] which is cool. The Amuro equivalent becomes the Quattro of the story instead. We even see Jamil's red comet archnemesis towards the end of the series but the season got cut short so he doesn't really get to do anything.

>>23274397
You should delete system 32 next

>>23243236
>>23264165
Retarded schizo samefag detected.

>>23279074
Why'd you announce your presence?

>>23284531
Nice projection.
>>23290322
Kys, Duel.

Fuck off

>>23233591
>>23238447
What's hilarious is that X still got better ratings than any Gundam since 00

I just finished this dogshit and anyone calling it mediocre is over rating it.
The ost is bad. The frost brothers are dogshit and the worst main villains ever. The newtypes are just an illusion bullshit at the end is terrible, worst ending ever. Roabea and Witz are terrible side characters and they only tried to give them backstory in 1 or 2 episodes. The romance is awful, even garrod and tiffa wasn't good.
Anyone saying Seed Destiny or build divers is the worst gundam hasn't seen X. I would go into more detail but I'm canceling this post.

>23290490
nice b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>23290490
>Anyone saying Seed Destiny or build divers is the worst gundam
Nobody is saying that
If it's a full series, it's AGE
Otherwise, Twilight Axis
All the Build shit is just slop

>>23290503
AGE is easily better than X in pretty much every aspect. I cant think of one thing that X did better than AGE. Garrod was better than Kio I guess but Flit is the real MC and he was better.

>>23290503
>replying to duel
just look at his obvious baits, mate
don't give any attention

>>23290519
>muh scary shitposting boogeyman
When is the last time you watched X and what's good about it?

>>23290413
I mean, that's just the average weekly top ratings going down through the years. Back in the 90s, when X aired, the top anime got ratings around 25%, nowadays the top is closer to 12 or 13%.

>>23290516
Your opinion

>>23290542

Not that anon, but Gundam X's battles generally call back to the original Gundam where there's always something unique going on in each one that either leads to enemy victory or has to be figured out to beat them, rather often having just suits flying around spamming beam shots in inconclusive battles against the same opponents. This DOES bit their ass with how they have the Frosts getting owned through the first half of X and then try to sell them as serious threats later though.

They also generally sell very well the idea of the Satellite Cannon as this "forbidden weapon" which has weight every time it's used.

The OST has some great themes here and there like the Satellite Cannon's and Frost Brothers'.

X's take on Newtypes is great and actually just got better with age, with criticism that actually works even better with the context of later works.

All the episodes focused on the side-cast are great (not just the Witz' hometown one, there's also the one with Ennil meeting Toniya and the follow up later on with Roybea and Witz's reactions to actually getting involved in an actual war with the UNE). They do suffer from the show getting cancelled and pretty much get nothing after the Estardo arc though.

Garrod/Tiffa's romance is cute and decently developer compared to other Gundam, although you could say it's nothing special outside of the context of Gundam.

>>23290516
>I cant think of one thing that X did better than AGE
The setting, having an actual theme and message, villains with understandable motives
I think you just don't like it because your brain has rotted and you need flashy colors

The only good thing about X is Tiffa

>>23290562
HE ACTUALLY THINKS X IS GOOD

>>23290564
>setting
Your preference sure. Post apocalypse has been done to death and AGEs Martians invading earth is more unique.
>theme and message
What's so good and well done about Xs?
>villains
Xs main villains just wanted to watch the world kill itself because someone was mean to them, we don't even know who did it and what exactly they did because there's no flashback or anything. The frost brothers are garbage characters. Many other villains have the depth of a puddle. Muh exploit newtypes because they have super powers, muh worship them because they have super powers. At least in AGE they were sympathetic villains for the most part trying to lead their people back to earth. AGEs villains were actual characters.

>>23290635
>Your preference
No, AGE is a carbon copy of 0079 by design with the only change being that the enemies aren’t sympathetic
>What's so good and well done about Xs?
That it even has one is a huge advantage
>At least in AGE they were sympathetic villains
Lol what

>>23290635
>we don't even know who did it and what exactly they did because there's no flashback or anything.
We do see who did it. The Newtype Research Labs that they blow up in episode 30. No actual flashback though, yeah. But based on what they say, they weren't tortured or anything, their entire hatred is because their considered themselves special, having a psychic link from birth, but their special abilities weren't acknowledged by the lab since they couldn't use the flash system and they were labelled as Newtype Class F (False). So, they wanted to take down all those who wanted to use Newtypes but ignored them and the Newtypes themselves, standing above everyone else to prove they're the special ones.

I think they aren't great, but it's really it's not due to their motivations. They aren't sympathetic, but the show doesn't try to sell them as such (unlike AGE which does try selling the genocidal Ezelcant, who killed his own people to drive them to war, as sympathetic, which is just a big misfire). The problem with the Frosts is how during the first half of the show they're fairly incompetent and basically just act as henchmen for for the UNE higher ups, then the series turns around and tries to sell them as super pilots and manipulators in the last third.

>>23290663
At least they tried with ezelcant to humanize him and add depth. You can put the frost brothers characterization parts in a 2 minute video, otherwise they are villain of the week tier and the most phony manipulators towards the end as you say.
I always thought that it was stupid to war with earth when ezelcant could have just asked/traded with the earth federation for medicine, moved second moon to earth orbit or just diplomatically gotten them to earth instead of genocide. But hey there's plenty of genocidal leaders in history that did stupid shit for the reasoning of bettering their people and actually harming them instead. He's certainly not even close to being the awful characters the frost brothers are.

Are you really going to do this everyday? You got me to watch X, but as time goes on I started hating it.

>>23290794
>At least they tried with ezelcant to humanize him and add depth.
I mean, so you're basically saying all villains should be sympathetic and if they aren't they're just trash? I really can't agree with that.

Trying to make someone who caused mass death of his own people to drive them to war into a sympathetic character is just horrible writing. By the point you get there, he can have his reasons, but they in no way should be considered sympathetic or understandable, just like when Garrod learns about the Frosts' backstory and motivation he just rejects them rather than sympathizing.

Like I said though, even aside from that the Frosts aren't great villains, but I'd still put them above outright offensive writing like Age's.

>>23217339 (OP)
I've watched it twice and it's a solid B+ for me. I try to watch it once a decade, so it might be time for another rewatch soon. The X-Divider is one of my favorite Gundams.

>>23290824
it's pretty bad yea
I'd rather watch Leo's and Aries shoot at each other

>>23291075
>I mean, so you're basically saying all villains should be sympathetic and if they aren't they're just trash?
Not what I'm saying at all. Take Frieza from DBZ for example, not sympathetic at all. But he is what a unsympathetic villain should be, terrifying or terrifyingly powerful. Has some character with his witty banter and saiyan racism.
The frosts obviously aren't this and have nothing else to carry them as the main villain. They tried by making them master manipulators in the latter half but its just terrible as they were not shown being very competent or strong throughout the show. I honestly am not sure if they wanted to kill freeden and crew because they ran like bitches or watched on the side at every opportunity in the latter half. They are just so poorly written and have no direction until they revealed they just wanted war because some people were big meanies to them because they weren't newtypes.

>>23290325
>nice projection
>outs himself as schizo in the very same post

>>23291420
>a villain can only be this

X filtering pseuds once again ya LOVE to see it.

>>23291429
So you have something to add? Why aren't the frosts shit? What's good about their personality? Their motive? Their power? What's your favorite frost scene? Etc.

>>23291424
>>23291429
oh look the schizo woke up

The frosts are just simple opportunists. Nothing more. Nothing less. They can only manipulate some people who are desperate to get the leg up on their competitor or people who they were assigned to like the potential NTs.

>>23290325
Duel does not exist.
>>23290377
That will do nothing.

>>23217339 (OP)
I love X. When I first watched it back in 2005, it legitimately helped me through depression I was dealing with at the time.

>>23293587
Seeing a series so bad must have made you realize your life wasn't that bad.

>>23293609
Stop being retarded and let others enjoy things you joyless fucking faggot.

>>23293587
>damn this show sucks, maybe I should stop being a mopey faggot
Thank you Garrod, your series' sacrifice was not in vain.

fuck Duel and you idiots who can't stop replying to him.

post your favorite grunt from X
Daughtress Neo is cool as fuck bros

>>23294186
We're not bumping your spam thread, DuelX.

>>23293587
2005 was the year I lost my V card
good times

>>23217339 (OP)
I didn't like it for the most part.
Fights were a bit fun though.

>>23217339 (OP)
It's super okay.
Not good or bad enough to be memorable. Just another okay mecha show.
If it didn't have gundam in the title literally no one would remember this even exists.

>>23291441
You couldn't understand something very simple from watching it, there's no chance I could get through your blockhead.

>>23291442
Why'd you announce your presence?

>>23293609
>>23293636
bitch up

>>23294499
You could say this about most Gundam series

>>23294583
Correct. Which is why people always circle back the 0079 and Zeta (and I guess ZZ but only like half of it).

>>23293587
So you're saying that YOU FOUND LOVE IN YOUR HEART?

>>23217339 (OP)
everytime I watch a new episode of GCucks I come here to apologize to Gundam X for being mistreated by this faggot fanbase.
>multiverse now
Fuck you Anno piece of shit

>>23299874
Every time I see this thread bumped I laugh because X was cancelled and the fans will forever live with a chip on their shoulders.

>23299882
>muh cancelation
0079, Layzner, Ideon, Cyber Formula, Daimos, and Dendoh were canceled yet they are still beloved shows

get new material to shitpost

>>23299884
Counterpoint - Gundam X

Shoulder status? Chipped.

>>23299882
>>23299925
>>23299945
mad af lmao

it's kind of a let down after watching G and wing
nothing really special unless you like little autistic new type girls

>>23300013
we get it, you like yaoi boys shows

>>23300013
>unless you like little autistic new type girls
I don't know, Tifa isn't particularly interesting or compelling.

>>23300013
>autistic new type girls

Everyone loves Kamille.

>>23299884
Nobody ever said that xRager was smart.

>>23306158
Stop necrobumping your spam thread, Duel.

>>23306168
drool is filtered by X (like all plebs)

>>23310352
tranquilo

>>23217339 (OP)
Gundam X was way more interesting than Wing and Seed. The protagonist MS act more like real robot rather than god mode super robots.

It is the best Heisei Gundam shows along with Gundam 00 S1.

It was also the first Gundam show to no feature the protagonists being associated with a superpower but with independent groups.

>>23294186
>wrist-mounted sabers

This is utterly BRILLIANT!

>>23318077
It's not, the blade has now the mobility of the lower arm instead of the mobility of the hand.

>>23318077
>>23318091
It can also be launched as a projectile.

>>23318091
distinction without difference

Can someone explain Toniya to me? She complains about how men like Roybea and Witz are scummy, but then flirts with Ennil the actual violent, savage scumbag mercenary who will kill over disagreements.

>tfw watching for the first time and I like the Frosts more than the Freeden's crew

>>23318132
I mean, her first meeting with Ennil was when Ennil was trying to retire from her life as a Vulture and gave her a dress she wanted. Only afterwards they really learn who each other was, but by their next meeting they were united fighting against the NUNE.