Did you like Layzner?

I did!

>>23305405 (OP)
The first half was a really engaging story about a group of humans desperately trying to survive and an alien desperately trying to prove he's genuinely trustworthy. That first half is really solid writing, save for the facade of Grados' moral superiority cracking too early across too many characters. The second half had an interesting bleak premise, but became far too much of a "monster of the week" story and too quickly to boot. Also, it brought back a certain antagonist in a way that made no sense and had nothing good to write involving the character, and it came across as a worse Hokuto no Ken as a result.

It's a shame that corporate turmoil involving a sponsor's product causing a lawsuit got the series abruptly ended, because the TV episode is terrible. The OVA that tried to salvage it by basically making an actual episode connecting the penultimate and ultimate episodes, but you could still tell that it was too rushed. Overall though, I'm glad I watched Layzner, and the first half is an impressively good story of trying to survive, prove one's honesty, and make it to Earth to try saving humanity. It had a great sense of traveling, of a journey, a la the White Base crew in MSG 0079, but while entirely being its own thing.

>>23306200
*The OVA did a good job trying to salvage the ending of the series after the final episode they abruptly had to make stunk.

>>23306200
>>23306201
Oh yeah, that reminds me, I really liked the way Layzner handled the reveal that Eiji really didn't pull the trigger or otherwise do the maneuvers that killed people. He was led to a new discovery that still horrified him, the fact that the Layzner was indeed created as a weapon of war that could pilot itself and kill people. There was also the conflict that he might have indeed been killed and humanity would have been up a creek if the Layzner didn't have that program that would take over in an emergency when in danger. Eiji's core convictions were still challenged and faced major conflicts, and the way he confronted those challenges and conflicts was interested and nuanced.

>>23305405 (OP)
Bruh it throws hands AND turns into a jet.

>>23305405 (OP)
the first half is ok, the second half was a little messy.

overall, i think the mecha designs could be better, i dont mean that to make it more gundam-like, but have a gimmick for 80s so it will be remembered too for its mecha, instead of just how strong the story is

i think the Layzner MkV is the next best mecha to have a jet form that looks good other than Macross

>>23306200
>The first half was a really engaging story about a group of humans desperately trying to survive and an alien desperately trying to prove he's genuinely trustworthy. That first half is really solid writing, save for the facade of Grados' moral superiority cracking too early across too many characters. The second half had an interesting bleak premise, but became far too much of a "monster of the week" story and too quickly to boot. Also, it brought back a certain antagonist in a way that made no sense and had nothing good to write involving the character, and it came across as a worse Hokuto no Ken as a result.

Really agree with the first half, the show genuinely got me excited about where it was going. Can't say I have any enthusiasm about the second half though, it lots all its identity and strung together elements from other shows and films, if it had been like that from the start I'd have minded less but I almost wish it was just cancelled outright before they even got to Earth.

We were robbed of anti-Gradosian courtroom dramas and Eiji meeting not-Wiseman from Votoms.

>>23306334
The first half is a space odyssey and every episode is a stressful fight for survival then after the timeskip the entire direction changes and the kids are gorilla fighters in New York or something

>>23305405 (OP)
Overall a mixed bag, but mecha designs were certainly top notch.

>>23306398
>gorilla fighters

>>23305405 (OP)
The episode where he fights the slasher goons in a closed space gave me claustrophobia

>>23305405 (OP)
Not really, no. The first part is a fine premise that wastes too much time spinning wheels. Then the second part is just garbage. At least it looks really pretty.

>>23305405 (OP)
It was an incredible show until the 2nd half

>>23306545
We do live in a world where Srungle got to finish without a hitch and Layzner didn't.

This dude is so stupidly evil; it's amazing.

I wish we actually saw Grados in its glory and Eiji's Earthling dad and his Gradosian mom.

>>23306377
So the final boss was supposed be the computer inside the King Grados SPT?

>>23316499
That might have been what they fought against as an excuse for some action, but the Grados main computer is mentioned a few times in the series as the thing that sent them to Earth in the first place. It feared the Gradosians learning they were humans kidnapped from Earth long ago who had been conditioned into thinking they were the real Grados.

>>23305405 (OP)
it was really good overall but the ending is balls, thank goodness the OVA makes it work.