Why isn't Papsmear in GQwwwx?

>>23318890 (OP)
They specifically chose the year 0085 because he didn’t start his plans until about a year or two later

>>23318890 (OP)
Dumb bitch look at the calendar

>>23318890 (OP)
Unironically too strong

>>23318898
Psyco Gundam and Gates.

>>23318896
Its actually hilarious how much Tsurumaki hyped him up by saying they specifically were avoiding him.

>>23318896
Why wouldn't he come sooner if tensions were heating up earlier in this timeline?

>>23318903
Retard.

>>23318890 (OP)
Fell down the stairs

>>23318908
You're defending a show that has smartphones in the year 1985.

>>23318907
It literally takes years to get to Earth from Jupiter

>>23318912
>in the year 1985
Double retard.

>>23318912
The show doesn't take place in the middle ages, retard

>>23318912
Holy fucking newfag.
Stop making yourself look dumber.

>>23318918
It only took Challia a few months.

hey why don't you think
who else has purple hair

>>23318931
Stop being retarded

>>23318931
holy shit
scirocco is garma???

>>23318912
>1985

>>23318923
It takes place in a vision of the future crafted in 1979.

>>23318957
Anon, stop, you are only further embarrassing yourself

23318957(you)
If this is what I call trolling then you’re doing a really bad job at it

>>23318890 (OP)
Who tf would want to be in that dog shit?

>>23318907
No, Jamitov summoned Scirocco with the promise of power.

>>23318890 (OP)
He'd make Shuji look like a rank amateur.

>>23318957
That was changed by Khara to be world reflective of modern day japan for... reasons. I don't really agree with the reasons but that's what they set out to do

>>23318990
If Jamitov didn't get him he would've joined one of the other sides.

>>23319001
Its the Star Trek effect. People's idea of the future was not sufficiently advanced back then.

>>23318890 (OP)
Why does he look like the Buff clan guys from Ideon?

>>23319060
Tomino

>>23319060
Because you need to watch more /m/.

>>23319065
But what does it imply? That he's not human?

>>23319060
Because Scirocco is effectively an alien. He's supposed to give off an aura of unfamiliarity and disconnection. That's why he's just slightly bizarre looking.

>>23318890 (OP)
Because he would have eaten Machu and Nyaan alive.

>>23318905
To be fair, he wasn't truly defeated in an MS battle. They had to take a bunch of newtype ghosts working together to turn off his machine so Kamille could go for the kill. Amuro, Char and Haman would also die if you completely removed control even if they had their respective supersuits.

>>23319113
Did Tomino actually stated this?

>>23318890 (OP)
Because the Jupiter Energy Fleet never became a permanent fixture.

>>23319117
More like made them him simps ala Sarah.

>>23319236
It was already a permanent fixture from before the OYW. It was part of the Antarctic Treaty that nobody in it could participate in the war.

>>23319203
On the original Zeta draft is said that Scirocco is a product of bio-engineering and has mysterious powers. But keep in mind that in that draft Jerid was described as "native" looking and Char ends up being killed by Scirocco.

He is. I’ve read the leaks… wait till you see how deep this shit goes in cour 2…
>I’ll drop you one hint

>>23319337
At this point its intentional for Shuji to kind of somewhat resemble Scirocco. Every single hint has been subverted so far that its a safe bet for things to go the exact opposite of the most obvious fan theory.

>>23319344
>Every single hint has been subverted
Not really, you just keep running your mouth every week and get BTFO the next episode. That's not "subversion", that's just you being a mongoloid.

>>23319337
Ah yes, another "Original character is X existing character" theory. Surely this time will be right unlike the last hundred times people said this idiocy.

>>23319305
Char was a Glemy. He only became important because fujos kept writing fan letters about him

>>23319163
Dunno man, I think getting rammed through would be a bigger danger for their survival.

>>23319239
I would say that because her personality Machu would probably hate him with a passion while Nyaan would be easy prey, like to the point it's outright insulting how easy she is...

>>23318912
>1985
more like mid 22nd century.

>>23319337
I see Khara's vision.

>>23319430
You are a retarded nigger. The suit was immobile and unresponsive to control. Kamille could have literally flied in front of the The-O and killed him with any weapon and the outcome would be the same.

The Pixiv encyclopedia's page on Scirocco talks about him not being in GQuuuuuuX and gives a list of reasons why his presence would upset the balance.
>High piloting ability and Newtype qualities (ability to cause psychic hits) without ever having to wear a normal suit
>His technical skills allow him to hand-craft units such as the The-O and Messala .
>He has charisma that makes Yazan Gable say "That's interesting" and hit it off with him .
>Ambition to outwit Jamitov Hyman
>Research into immortality, such as preserving personalities and memories, using an advanced version of the Psycommu Grimoire, was conducted in the Ambrosia section of Jupitris.
>His idea is to make all mankind understand the ataraksia (peace of the soul) he feels through "Psycho Flare "Orpheus"" without any misunderstanding.

>>23319521
The last two points are from that terrible Gundam Walpurgis manga and should be avoided.

>>23319032
If you must dive around in the same eras of a setting forever, I don't mind a thoughtful approach to re-imagining an old look. UC's already been doing it for years, just a little less jarringly. The 90's OVAs reinterpreted tons about the aesthetic of the OYW and postwar period.
Star Trek's a fun example because you have three different approaches to TOS-era within the same franchise and two even coexisted. DS9 and Enterprise both went with the literal approach of that era just looking like the 60's TV production, which was fine for DS9 since it was an anniversary tribute episode but in Enterprise it's a little weirder, since the show's a prequel with a much more modern aesthetic, and for that matter it's not like the films immediately after the show paid much mund to aesthetic continuity.

Then there's the two most recent shows, Discovery and Strange New Worlds. Discovery largely went 'fuck it' and pursued its own aesthetic for the era, which might've been fine but personally at least I think it also just kind of missed the mark for any era of the setting. Strange New Worlds goes the other way, and tries to create essentially a modern interpretation of the original's look. It ends up in this interesting spot where it's not a full-on retrofuture, but it also doesn't feel like it came from an extrapolation of contemporary 'cool' design trends. I really like it personally, and a little 70's influence helps sell the idea that the original Constitution-class could plausibly become the refit without replacing every single component.
And then there's Picard which somehow ends up less aesthetically futuristic by its end than it was at the start.

I don't really have a point here, it's just funny how the series has tried more or less every approach and you can compare within the same IP.

He'll have a cameo in which his gqO slips in a triangle-shaped ice cream and falls on a GMgoog's beam saber.

>>23319639
>in
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>>23319521
>>23319527
Scirocco feels exactly like the kind of guy to research immortality through science at least. I wouldn't mind seeing that specific aspect explored through an alternative avenue.

>>23318912
Based retard

for me it's Nagano's original Scirocco design

>>23319850
How can be simultaneously bald and have a long lush hair?
He truly isn't human

>>23319344
Seeing the copes evolve for this show's brain-dead and dull writing is fascinating. At first it was "the show is double subverting your expectations, you've gotta be careful" then for a while it was "actually the show has all of the necessary details in it already, you just haven't noticed" now recently the agenda being pushed is "the show is supposed to be dull on purpose, and that's a good thing"

>>23319521
In normal UC Scirocco was able to bend women to his will, and within seconds of getting rammed was able to reach out and attack Kamille's mind.
If Newtypes in Gquuuuuux can teleport gigantic asteroids worth of mass with just a basic psycommu device the a Gquuuuuux version of Scirocco following it's (frankly stupid) rules able to do that would pretty much be unstoppable, on the level of the most broken power fantasy shit in Gundam like Destiny Kira or Fukui novel Turn A

>>23320077
That's Panty & Stocking style.

>>23319851
He’s Vegeta before Vegeta

>>23320077
As well, the man is a master mobile suit designer.
Consider this. The Hambrabi as we see it in Zeta Gundam is a masterpiece. It's able to transform between MS and MA modes in half a second, due to incorporating magnetic coating and movable frame technology. It has performance on par with the Zeta Gundam, even exceeding it in several areas, and according to the novelization, has a biosensor too. Literally the only issue with the Hambrabi is that it has a high skill floor to get results out of it, and it was all developed according to Scirocco's design.

We see a version of it in GQuuuuuuX that was developed solely by the Federation, and it's comparatively a pile of shit in every way.

Would the crossbone vanguard still form in Gquuuuuux? I imagine iron mask the cyber-cuckold would manage to stir up a zeon-dominated earthsphere quite well

>>23320059
Didnt read your post. I'm just replying because of the (You). Gundam Quux is trash and only good for porn.

>>23320190
I agree

>>23319521
I thought Scirocco's ideal was just the Zanscare Empire.

>>23319851
you can be actively balding and still have lush hair in the back

>>23320215
He has the same puppet matriarch idea but he lacks Zanscares obsession with cleansing the earth of all life

>>23318890 (OP)
Pimptimus was too busy with his Harem.

>>23320077
>>23320114
Bro is basically a Gary Stu. His final MS wasn’t designed with funnels or transformations, it was just designed to be able to keep up with him. And it worked - nobody lands a single hit on The O until Kamille is able to freeze it in place.

If the show was set earlier than UC87 just to avoid him, does that still mean he's going to arrive a couple of years after the show ends? The Olympians aren't that useful as a tool compared to the titans but provided the ambitions of Scirocco's original character are intact there's no stopping him from infiltrating whatever he power he wants

>>23320215
>>23320226
Both Scirocco and Kagatie float the idea of a matriarchal society, but both are total bullshit. Scirocco wants somebody he can control which is why he insists on trying to kill Haman. Kagatie wants to kill the entire Earth Sphere.

>>23319251
In Gkx Challia is part of the first fleet to go to Jupiter and they didn't leave behind any infrastructure: they only go back due to a miracle after it turns out the cosmic rays were too strong and disabled their nav computers.

>>23318903
Holy retarded

>>23320077
As of now only the Rose of Sharon and the Red Gundam seem capable of triggering Zeknovas so Scirocco probably would need to get his hands on either of them to be able to use them and even then Rose Lalah might be the only one capable of getting the Psycommus to go Zeknova as Char and Shuji didn't play a part in the two caused by Gramps

>>23320399
Scirocco is just bullshitting them you know..

>>23318912
UC001 is like 2050 or so

>>23320655
Except he isn't.

>>23319521
>>His technical skills allow him to hand-craft units such as the The-O and Messala .
this is stupid because quacks, fred, and even the og gundam are way more powerful than them
they raised the power scale ridiculously already

>>23320655
>>23320759
Scirocco isn't bullshitting about wanting a matriarchy, he wants that because he can effortlessly manipulate the vast majority of women with his supernatural newtype charm.

>>23319465
this is an absolutely critical need.

>>23320759
Why were Mineva's handmaidens all 8 ft tall?

>>23321170
Axis must have been so poor they couldn't afford artificial gravity cylinders. Their bones are drinking straws

>>23320215
>>23320226
The intended purpose of the Angel Halo seems reminiscent of what Scirocco did to Kamille.

>>23319851
Guess I'm not human either then.

>>23320215
Isn't Zanacare just straight up ran by lunatics even by Gundam's standards?

>>23321296
On paper, it's run by Maria and her cult, but in actuality, most power is concentrated into BESPA, who were the turncoat Federation garrison of Side 2 and the Strategic Naval Research Institute, a former Federation research lab looking into newtypes and mobile suit development. The ultimate power is the Jupiter Empire, and Zanscare could be said to be their client state. Even the prime minister of Zanscare was a subject of the Jovian emperor.

>>23321296
Yes. Kagatie in the novelization is straight up omnicidal.

>>23320759
>>23320655
>>23320930
Scirocco is high on his own supply. There's no indication that he doesn't believe what he says but in practice he would still manipulate what goes on behind the scenes by influencing the female ruler because "He's just a genius guiding humanity down the right path"

>>23321341
If you go by later Crossbone entries (which you shouldn't) Kagatie isn't serving the Jupiter. The Angel Halo was originally just a means of transporting large amounts of Jupiter citizens back to the Earth Sphere but Zanscare betrayed their agreement and turned it into a weapon.

>>23319438
Machu and Nyaan both fell for Shuji even though he's almost a non-entity outside the Red Gundam, they're both easy prey for Scirocco. Machu only avoided getting worse because Challia picked her up.

>>23320218
I look like this actually

>>23321341
It's not really productive to respond with shit out of the novels and databooks that was never in the actual show.

>>23321277
Most of 4chan barely qualifies as humanity.

>>23321783
NTA but most of this is talked about in Victory minus the federation turncoat stuff. Maria was a puppet leader, Kagatie discovered her as an orphaned fortune teller and used her newtype abilities to form a cult he could build influence with. It is also explained Kagatie came from Jupiter and had been using his contacts and shipping routes from there to build Angel Halo in secret.

>>23321786
That "orphaned fortuneteller" stuff is only mentioned in the last episode. And for a puppet leader, Kagatie and the military sure seem to put a lot of faith in her, and the show likes to treat her with lot more authority and blame than the term "puppet leader" implies, because that's what the themes this show is going for are trying to say.

>>23321791
They have faith because her newtype abilities are proven to be able to influence large groups of people. She admits earlier in the series she has no control over Zanscare’s policies and disagrees with their brutality and use of the guillotine. She goes along with everything because she is strung along by the promise of eventual peace and lacks the agency to assert her power as she is just a figurehead. They actively lied to her about the purpose and capabilities of the Angel Halo to the end and made a point to keep Chronicle on the front lines away from her so he couldn’t sway their influence.

>>23320780
Scirocco never got to work with psycommu

>>23320271
The Quebely lands some hits with funnels but the armor is so thick they didn't even do anything

>>23321922
>armor
Pretty sure that was his powers.

>>23318912
>small brained retarded anons missed the point this hard

>>23321922
When

>>23320304
The fact Gates and Deux failed in assassinating Kycilia and Zeon building super weapons of mass destruction it’d give the Federation more incentive to get as many allies as possible.

>>23321941
>>23322063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymU12LkVckI

Around 18:15

>>23322164
>kills Sarah
>cockblocks us from full power Scirocco vs full power Haman kino
Fucking Katz man.

>>23322173
>Katz
His death is one of the funniest in U.C. though, up there with motorcycle riding ghosts in Victory

>>23319408
You have autism if you read that post and interpreted it unironically

>>23318890 (OP)
The world wasn't ready for him

>>23321919
I thought The-O had a bio-sensor?

>>23318890 (OP)
>MC is female
I think you know why

>>23318905
Machu and Nyaan were wet for that non entity Shuji. Imagine if Paptimus used his Newtype mojo on them.

>>23324119
It does. I think he means GQ’s iteration of psycommu which is more advanced.

>>23321274
Funny you mention that, walpurgis gives the scirocco faction a proto angel halo.

It's unlikely that Kamille becomes a pilot in Gquuuuuux so as soon as UC.0087 comes along Scirocco will still arrive and curbstomp whoever is left at the end of this show. There is no Haman Axis to oppose him either and he'll probably just absorb Cosmo Babylonia and Zanscare before they even form. Basically Scirrocoo is an unstopple God Pharoah and no one can stop him

>>23319337
>>23319344
>>23319357
>>23320059
People coped like this for GWitch too, I remember every fucking thread was "Shit's gonna get real in the next episode just you guys wait!" lmfao

>>23324494
Shouldn't Haman still be around in the GQux timeline (possibly back in Side 3)? It'd be funny if she ends taking over Zeon again since the Zabis have all killed each other (90% chance Char will finish off Kycillia by the end of the series)

>>23324835
Without going into the specifics of CDA, Haman was only ever in that position because her father was the highest ranking officer on Axis and then died. Technically she never had the rank for it, but Haman just kinda inherited the role with nobody else around to challenge her (plenty of people wanting to manipulate her though).

In GQX there's going to be a lot more competition than a bunch of weary folks on an asteroid starved for leadership. For starters, M'Quve is a vice admiral, which is an even higher rank than what Kycilia originally held as rear admiral (or major general), commanding the Mobile Assault Force. If Delaz happens to have avoided the destruction of A Baoa Qu, then he's also a vice admiral who might be a contender for next highest ranking member. Maybe those two guys will fight it out since they each came from the Kycilia and Gihren factions respectively, if they don't have their own agenda in mind.

>>23318890 (OP)
Because Zeta is a toy-selling ad and not a even a good anime.
I hope they declare everything after 0079 non-canon.

>>23318890 (OP)

>>23320114
We never see the Hambrabi do anything in GQuuuuuuX because GAteeeeeeS only exists to be a jobber