Why don't you hear about anything except the yuri when it comes to this show?

Because it attracted a certain crowd that cares about absolutely nothing but that sort of thing

>>23319532 (OP)
What else is there about that show.

>>23319540

Do we even have proof those who got into WfM were the type to abandon Gundam as a whole after WfM wrapped up?

>>23319546
Nope, it's just anons making a schizo narrative up in their heads like always. In fact, we got a few people here who revealed Witch was their first show and went on to watch more Gundam entries because they got interested in the franchise, which is the same shit that has happened with every new show including the currently airing one.

Because it's not very good.
As a matter of fact, that seems to be a recurring theme of Gundam shows. It's not very good.
Maybe we need better taste in mecha anime.

>>23319532 (OP)
The best thing about this show is some of the mecha designs.

>>23319557
I did not think that deciding to watch a show my friends were talking about for a change would lead pretty much directly to me trying to work out if I'd even have room for a PGU Nu.
And like you pretty much said, AU shows ultimately have two jobs. One is to be popular in their own right, the other is to draw in a subset of viewers to UC and other prior AUs. I started watching WfM after season one had ended and I was halfway through Zeta by the time season two began, so I'd say it did a reasonable job of that second job in at least my case.
>>23319595
It's a crime that we're getting an MGSD Aerial before any other 1/100 scale kits from the show. I'd still settle for Full Mechanics, just give me a damn 1/100 Calibarn.

>>23319532 (OP)
Because the yuri and anti-yuri fight is really fucking loud, drowning out everything else.
Also, the show really doesn't handle itself very well in the second half, which sours discussion further. It's one of those stories that inevitably devolves into "I wish this happened" and "I wish this had been done like this."

>>23319595
Darilbalde is cool as hell and got most of the best fights. It's nice when that happens.

>>23319532 (OP)
Because there is literally nothing else to it. It has no real substance so all discourse is gonna be about yuri, whether that's bitching about it or pretending it was good because of it. If we remove that it's a bland, flavorless show that has no real redeeming qualities not even in terms of ambition. Even something like Age was at least ambitious despite it's flaws. This is just sort of there.

>>23319623
You really nailed it. I think part of the problem is also that there's not much to talk about here, except for the eternal yuri seethe. The lore reveals from Vanadis Heart and M&W book haven't been enough to spark discussion either (except just kinda confirm or clarify some stuff that we've already known/suspected). The villains aren't interesting enough for people to do the usual "they did nothing wrong" dance with Gundam villains, especially since the show ended up spelling how wrong they were about everything (last episode even has Shaddiq's former lackey straight up admit that his plan for Earth didn't work as intended). The one thing people consistently enjoy are mechanical designs and the soundtrack, and when there's agreement, there is not much to discuss. That really only leaves the characters as the main source of discourse, but again, there are not many things to discuss, other than shipping. I have tried to make threads about G-Witch's story that aren't about the main couple, but those threads rarely spark any kind of discussion or interest, and die after max 15 posts or so. Everything has been pretty much settled in discussing G-Witch from its quality to its lore, so now the only thing left is to just seethe and bait about dykes.

because yuri absolutely mindbreaks the gay pedophiles diaper fetishists (I wish I was making this part up) running this website, and they will shitposts about it anywhere and anytime they can (which is literally 24/7, they have no lives)
The show fucked up at the end a bit but it was still great, had awesome 2D mecha and they did great action with it too, and looking at the trash we have today I have a renewed admiration for what they've managed to do in 2D because going 3D sure as fuck doesn't guarantee great mecha action it looks like. I have always mentioned how awesome it is to see JNTHED doing mecha design for gundam. I would have liked the series overall just for this alone even if the rest was your typical normal gundam with a male protag, etc. It was that good when it comes to mech.
As for the story, it's hilarious that gwitch's main message is really pro family (globohomo hate this) while /m/'s darling gundam series' message is "racism is LE BAD" and yet that's not considered woke but gwitch was.

>>23319540
I was into gundam way longer that you.

>>23319692
God forbid I'm a hetero male gundam fan who's just about had enough of the constant femnoid pandering ruining the gundam MCs with their shitty gay fanfics after 2 decades.

>>23319691
>As for the story, it's hilarious that gwitch's main message is really pro family (globohomo hate this)
Reminds me how some leftists also seethed at the story for pointing out how reverse racism exists.

Yurifags are obnoxious no matter what. I don't even dislike yuri itself but the fans are unbearable and I want to interact with them as little as possible.

>>23319733

>I don't even dislike yuri itself but the fans are unbearable and I want to interact with them as little as possible.

And that's another thing I keep seeing everything WfM is badmouthed here: saying thius Gundam work attracted "yurifags who are unbearable". Are there really such individuals out there in the Internet? Before anyone says X/Twitter, I don't see such Yuri fans there, especially.

>>23319739
Have you seen the current state of /a/?

>>23319740

I thought /a/ had it in for such fans who got into WfM?

>>23319743
What the fuck does that have to do with yurifags being annoying? They don't exist only for Witch and nothing else.

Because everything that isn't yuri is boring, overcomplicated nonsense and misery porn stolen from Unicorn and Hathaway.

>>23319691
>had awesome 2D mecha
Lol.

>>23319739
Has there ever been a point in time when yurifags weren't insufferable faggots?

>>23319707
>reverse racism
You are a leftist yourself.

>>23319739
Have you been anywhere outside /m/

>>23319594
Not that there is any love lost between me and Gbitch but I hear this all the time. "Gundam is for people with suit taste in mecha." ALLLL the time here. Just constant moaning and gnashing of teeth about it. When you ask these people what good mecha is then, they always respond with some esoteric shit nobody has ever heard of before like Shuggashagga Pisszinger Z XE Deluxe Showdown Fightzone made in 1924 that is ACTUALLY Le good mecha. When I look it up it's like they made the pillsbury doughboy into a robot and it's flying around like Superman while some kids sing an annoying song about it or some shit. Thank you for reading my blogpost

>>23319788
Just get the fuck out. Go back.
>>>/a/

>>23319594
If people say that the show is no good, I would say that the problem is with the people making the show and not with the people watching it expecting them to not absolutely fuck it up somehow. After all, the last mainline AU show to not be panned for either going down the shitter after the mid-season "re-evaluation" by Bandai executives or not just be trash as a whole was SEED (or, if you're one of those Fukuda and Morosawa haters, Turn A).

>b-but muh Reconguista--
That was a side project they tossed to Tomino inbetween focusing on IBO and Build. Most people didn't consider it a full work because it was the first time we had a 2 cour Gundam show before WfM.

>b-but muh Unicorn--
I said mainline AU show.

>>23319817
I mean not even Tomino considers G-Reco Gundam, he just slapped Gundam onto it because it was probably the only way he could get Sunrise to approve it.

>>23319532 (OP)
Be the change you want to be anon. Talk about the things you want to talk about this show.

>>23319532 (OP)
because the show leaned into it multiple times during the run which overshadowed the good mech designs and some of the cool ideas they had about the cooperate angle
the fact they mostly failed to capitalize on what the show had going for it and fucked the ending up doesn't help so in the end all thats left are the twitter freaks

>>23319824
I'm a Gundam newfag that's why I'm asking.

>>23319840
I agree, i also kinda think the Aerial is part of it too, it is incredibly principal to the plot so unless you jive with it stuff loses steam. Personally i liked the Pharact and Lfriths more.

>>23319840

>twitter freaks

That's what I ask: are there really loonies in X/Twitter that were the ones enjoying it for the yuri?

>>23319739
>>23319966
Yes, and I say this as a G-Witch fan. There absolutely are people who take the yuri couples extremely seriously and will get hostile over it, and these people can especially be found on Xitter. Usually, these loonies will be absolutely triggered by any mention of male characters in the show. Just show them a picture of Guel or comment something positive about the character, and they'll become absolutely rabid. The looniest of them are probably still to this day harassing the official Xitter account of the show over the entire interpretation debacle. These people are usually either Westerners or Chinks, and many still believe that S2's story was changed by the suits to push Guel as a character, and that any merch featuring him, Elans or Shaddiq, is a loss for them and confirmation of the secret agenda. For them, shipping is literally a political statement. Don't get me wrong, chill yurifags and Sulemio shippers exist, but you don't see them as often because of the loud and toxic portion.

>>23319532 (OP)
I'm always talking about loving the girls. Especially the terrorists.

>>23319546
Just a theory based on personal experience - people I know who got into WfM and tried to get me into it with "lol they have lesbians in Gundam now" and who completely failed to get into anything else.

>>23319692
This is something only a really whiny faggot would post. Get over yourself.

>>23319532 (OP)

Because it attracted the casual mouth breather audience of modern Zoomers and that's precisely what they wanted to begin with, to alienate and exclude the old fanbase in favor of the new moronic kids, opting for a Harry Potter centered synergistic narrative.

And Zoomers can't into mecha, science fiction, writing quality, music, character design or production. All they care about is which character is fucking who, whose feelings got hurt one week to another, cute girls doing vapid pointless things and how relatable the absurd is to their own lives out of absent minded daily egosurfing narcissism.

>>23319594
I JUST finished it yesterday and it really wasn't. My first instinct was to give it the #2 worst Gundam spot but I'll err on the side of caution and say bottom 4. It took all the way until the final battle for the MC to finally stop being a stuttering retard and/or moping sad sack

>>23320094
Thoughts on the Gundams themselves? Like did you think the Pharact was wasted or overrated?

>>23319953
agreed
>>23319966
I dont think they enjoyed it at all, they just saw fan art of lesbian characters and jumped all over it. I also dont believe they are going out to buy model kits

>>23319595
I know the ordinary school Suletta Aleska spin-off didn't take resources away from a proper follow up, but I'm begging Sunrise to do something with Ad Stella. Fantastic mechanical design and some transhumanist themes that were largely ignored.

Mostly I just want Ericht to get back in the robot and do some crimes.

>>23320499
There's also a whole bunch of people who showed up for the yuri alone, only to end up falling down the UC hole and wind up buying gunpla and/or terminally fixated on Char Aznable.

>>23320616
that doesn't seem great for Bandais goal of making gunpla the new starwars in the west
a bunch of homos talking about how gay the show is was not the marketing push they wanted

>>23319532 (OP)
I like the show a lot, issue is theres people who don't actually want to engage in discussion at all

nowadays if I wanna talk mecha I just talk with the lads

>>23320414
The only one that spoke to me even a little was the Schwarzette, just because of its Stargazer head. It didn't get to do shit

>>23321247
>nowadays if I wanna talk mecha I just talk with the lads
Is your polycule accepting new people? How many of them are trans?

>>23321266
No and zero, it's just a really good thing I've kept in contact with friends and gotten their friends to watch /m/ shit

Because WfM managed to drop the ball so hard that no one gives a shit about it anymore.

>>23319532 (OP)
I was told that when the next Gundam was bad, I'd suddenly start liking this.

Nope, still hate it.

lol

>>23319532 (OP)
Because that's all 4chan made it out to be. Other places still talk about other things but 4chan hates lesbians because they can't have sex with them so they fixate on that part.

>>23319532 (OP)
Because majority of the episodes focused on the stupid clan battles then it pivots in like the stretch of the series into a somewhat war which is resolved by a stupid deus ex machina.

There's just not much else going on.
It might have the most incomplete world building of any Gundam setting.

cheap Utena clone

>>23319532 (OP)
People talk about Pharact and Schwarzette's poor treatment all the time.

Why doesn't Bandai use Okouchi to write more Geass instead making him churn out some shit script about lame school duel hob with robots, lesbians and badly-written corpo stuff? Plus The Tempest plagiarism to give an impression of 'depth'? Even Valvrave was better than WfM.

>>23319532 (OP)
"Mobile Suit Gundam: The Witch from Mercury" is such a fucking cool name that my imagination exploded when I first beheld it. It is such a damn shame it ended up sucking so bad. I even got my hopes back up when the splat happened.
Such a great title and what go they go and fucking do? "School setting lmao".
The nips are mentally ill.

GQux is 6/10 kinda capturing what happened in those fits of imagination. If Nyaan or Machu were to go rouge it'd be at 8/10

I quite enjoy gwitch but I also recognize they didn't know if they wanted to have mechs that fuck up peoples nervous systems a la cyberpunk genre or if they wanted newtype ghosts living in magical crystals
both ideas allow for some cool sci-fi stories but gwitch wanted both and pulled off neither in the end

>>23322328
Did you just have to be here for the community or something? I got absolutely nothing out of this show.

>>23322328
Maybe it’s because by this point, Okouchi has shown he has no idea as to how to write anything that doesn’t emphasize melodrama, even if it comes at the expense of coherence.

>>23322568
valvrave is a shitposting show. It has nothing of value and the staff admitted they were not writing it to make sense or be cohesive, they were writing to see how shocking the next episode was.

>>23322568
You just have to have enough taste to appreciate something that revels in absurdity.

>>23322611
At least that was the case for the first half. Come the second half, it all collapsed.

And it also showed once more that Okouchi has an infuriating habit of sidelining characters that have great chemistry with the main hero, solely for melodrama and the like.

>>23322616
I watch shit like GunXSword and Cross Ange, I didn't really find Valverave particularly absurd.

>>23322833
Space nazi vampire ghost illuminati isn't absurd to you?

>>23320073
Ok, zoomer.

>>23322874
Relatively, no.

>>23319532 (OP)
Because we live in a FotM consumer society and that show ended years ago.

>>23319546
First that I've ever heard of it. Doesn't seem so far-fetched considering that it's an AU.

The story is basically over and there is nothing much left unsaid. A time skip ending basically guarantee that. One could said that a genius part of MSG was give us a satisfactory ending with a lot of room for speculation.

>>23322880
I dunno man, I find mexican combiner mecha more believable. That's just me though.

>>23319733
That's the norm of LGBT fanbase. The LGBT isn't that bad, but the fans are the ine insufferable and making it the PRIMARY identity.

>>23320073
>And Zoomers can't into mecha, science fiction, writing quality, music, character design or production. All they care about is which character is fucking who
It is ironic that zoomers hate sex scenes but is obsessed with sex.

>>23320073
>Zoomers
>Harry Potter
Millennials are the ones obsessed with Harry Potter.
Also Zoomers are like 30 at this point. Maybe you are thinking on centennials.

>>23322949
Zoomers are anyone and everyone born after the early 90s, up to and including people born as I click submit. The generation shall continue to grow in size until some meaningful event separates them from the next generation, yes that means some zoomers have zoomer parents too, and at the current rate grandparents.

>>23322970
>including people born as I click submit
Whadaya mean? They're already being called Generation Alpha iirc. Hell Skibidi Toilet is populat because it's the first major Gen Alpha product, and it's a testament on how it keeps getting worse and worse.

>>23323103
No. I reject that. They are zoomers. You don't get to pull a new generation out of nowhere without a proper generation defining event. Same as you don't get to constantly change the year a generation starts. No matter how much people try to do either I reject both. The cut off for millennial is early 90s and everything after that is gen Z. There is no gen A.

>>23322611
>a shitposting show
>they were not writing it to make sense or be cohesive
Still more rewatchable than WfM.

>>23319966
>Xitter
A lot of them moved to Bluesky, which is Tumblr 2.0. It's a good containment site. Also Reddit, of course.
>>23320499
On twitch and youtube there was a short time some streamers bought the Gunpla for WfM but most, if not all of those streamers dropped Gundam as a whole after the show ended. It didn't have the effect or staying power that Gundam Wing had.
>>23323103
Supposedly "Generation Beta" started this year.

>>23322970
>yes that means some zoomers have zoomer parents too, and at the current rate grandparents.
A 30 year old woman had sex with her 10 year old shota and got pregnant, so I guess zoomer grandparents are a thing.