M.S. ERA Popular Edition (0001-0080) - /m/ (#23320016) [Archived: 569 hours ago]

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6/14/2025, 6:30:21 PM No.23320016
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Zeonic T. has finally released M.S. ERA. It is a collection of 'pseudo photographs' of the events of Universal Century. A hobby project of sort by the staff of War in the Pocket 0080.

https://mega.nz/file/BA4yBDTT#BInXK5U-bMHsjnCIq82eDhJUZpJzSoTOpPnkxJYo-mk
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6/14/2025, 6:31:02 PM No.23320017
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6/14/2025, 6:53:00 PM No.23320070
>>23320016 (OP)
>finally
wut
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:06:27 PM No.23320099
>>23320076
How come we never saw these huge Gaw cargo planes again during Zeta Gundam or ZZ Gundam? Where did they all go?
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6/14/2025, 7:07:10 PM No.23320102
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6/14/2025, 7:08:14 PM No.23320105
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6/14/2025, 7:09:22 PM No.23320108
>>23320098
I wonder how many Zakus would have survived if this shield was standard issue?
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>>23320099
No reusing mech designs from older shows.
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6/14/2025, 7:30:35 PM No.23320145
>>23320137
cute and funny
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:17:22 PM No.23320229
Finally, as in he stopped paywalling the damn thing. It's bad enough. He translated one of the Thunderbolt lore books and that's trapped behind paywalled hell.

But why the hell are you posting every damn photo from the book on here? Just link to the damn thing on internet archive. It's a hell of a lot. Easier to read it on there online reader than it is clicking on every one of your damn photos here. Dumbass
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6/14/2025, 8:20:18 PM No.23320235
Wasn't there already an english release of this? I swear I remember having a copy of it.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:27:35 PM No.23320252
>>23320235
The book was originally published in English, well, more like horrendous ENGRISH. It was nonsense at times.
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6/14/2025, 8:42:18 PM No.23320268
>>23320099
There was Garuda-class transport that Karaba used.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 8:51:03 PM No.23320276
>>23320090
kek zekes are always so full of shit
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:01:55 PM No.23320289
>>23320137
>hey kenji, draw something about that future space war, it can be anything
>ok
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:14:21 PM No.23320299
Good read, OP. These photos are quality inspiration for a gunpla diorama I'm currently planning. Thank you for sharing.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:17:16 PM No.23320303
>>23320099
They're aged, fly like shit, and were replaced by the Gaw.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:13:41 PM No.23320466
>>23320030
does side 3 have cathedrals?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:14:46 PM No.23320469
>>23320268
>There was Garuda-class transport that Karaba used.
I recall in the show they said only 2 Garuda class ships existed in the entire Federation fleet during Zeta. Why so few? There were dozens if not hundreds of Gaw carriers during the OYW.
Replies: >>23320506 >>23321459
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:34:30 PM No.23320506
>>23320469
They don't give exact numbers but we only see a handful between Zeta and ZZ. The staff probably felt redundant when they started showing more MS carriers flying around with Minovsky craft systems like the Argama does in ZZ. Plus the image of giant flying airplanes felt a bit too 70s by this point.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:34:07 AM No.23320735
>>23320229
Normally people just say thanks for the heads up and maybe enjoy the storytime. Just saying, complaining about free pictures when the link is in the OP is some real fag type behavior.
Replies: >>23320788
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:08:59 AM No.23320788
>>23320735
Because "storytime" is fucking stupid and no one is going to sit through this shit and click on every individual image in a piss ass attempt to read on this shit ass imageboard. So fuck you asshole
Replies: >>23321474 >>23355332
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:18:03 AM No.23321459
>>23320469
Maybe they were retired and kept in some museum like Kai's Guncannon.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:25:39 AM No.23321474
>>23320788
nigga there's literally a download link of what you already asked for

you just fucking walked into a restaurant, sat down, and started bitching about having to look at other people's tables to figure out what they serve here when the fucking menu's in front of you but you couldn't fucking see it
Replies: >>23321504
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:32:04 AM No.23321480
Thanks for the upload.

Anyway, I wonder how Tomino feels about these pictures in the art book? He's always said he's against things that make war look cool or interesting. That his anime has always been about showing the tragedy of war and being anti-war.
Replies: >>23321504 >>23321591 >>23323041 >>23323085 >>23330681
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:59:06 AM No.23321504
>>23321474
A valuable thread died for this horseshit. Quit promoting the faggot.

>>23321480
Who the fuck cares what he thinks? His opinion is irrelevant.
Replies: >>23321514 >>23321528 >>23322299 >>23324224
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:06:51 AM No.23321514
>>23321504
>A valuable thread died for this horseshit.
Fuck that nonsense, you didn't do anything to bump that thread and if it was unbumpable then it's still being archived
Replies: >>23321521
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:14:30 AM No.23321521
>>23321514
Again, quit promoting faggot scans. Why is that hard to comprehend, fucktard
Replies: >>23321524
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:17:45 AM No.23321524
>>23321521

Unlike that fucktard, I derive massive pleasure from fucking with your mind

your excuses are flimsy and easily countered, now bring on the real rage behind your posts
Replies: >>23321536
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:20:41 AM No.23321527
>>23320177
>November 0078
What are these units? They look like FZs but the timeline doesnโ€™t match, unless itโ€™s just an error
Replies: >>23321531 >>23322029 >>23322218 >>23361352
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:20:44 AM No.23321528
>>23321504
>Who the fuck cares what he thinks? His opinion is irrelevant.
He's the creator of Gundam.
Replies: >>23321534
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:26:30 AM No.23321531
>>23321527
the artbook originally released in 1990 when the franchise was only ~11 years old at the time and a lot of the lore was still kinda very loose at the time, including the start and end dates of the one year war

this artbook noticably does things like depicting all zakus as FZ-types and all GMs appear to be GM Command-types
Replies: >>23321533
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:29:28 AM No.23321533
>>23321531
I think Tomino even mentioned at one point that he intended for the war to be longer. Realistically around 2 to 3 years he said. But "One Year War" sounded much more catchy. So they went with that.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:29:58 AM No.23321534
>>23321528
Again, who the fuck cares? His opinion is irrelevant. Stop acting like his critique of something validates it more.
Replies: >>23321539
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:31:15 AM No.23321536
>>23321524
Nope, you're just a cocksucking faggot like the anon complaining about this thread. Get a room
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:35:50 AM No.23321539
>>23321534
Were you kicked in head by a Donkey?

Of course his opinion matters, Tomino created UC Gundam and set the basic rules of the show.
Replies: >>23321543
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:42:52 AM No.23321543
>>23321539
No he fucking didn't. He literally says that future creatives can do whatever. Lay off the crack, your delusional.

Tomino's opinion hasn't mattered in decades. They don't need his blessing or permission or approval. You're a fucking brainlet if you think any of this.
Replies: >>23321557
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:04:45 AM No.23321557
>>23321543
More of your lies

>Tomino: The original plan was to complete everything in one story โ€” have Mobile Suit Gundam as a one-shot anime, but we ended up continuing it. The past forty years have been a constant struggle of figuring out how to draw out and extend Gundam. I believe itโ€™s been a forty year long history of everything else losing to the original 'Mobile Suit Gundam' .

>Tomino: In my head, Gundam already reached its conclusion. All the Gundams made after โˆ€ Gundam (1999) are borrowing the "Gundam" title.
Replies: >>23321613
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:32:29 AM No.23321591
zeon soldiers disguised as civilians
zeon soldiers disguised as civilians
md5: bef8974c752adf0cb1e8ef4b0af3c669๐Ÿ”
>>23321480
I don't think he would mind. These were directly inspired from the real life photo collections of Vietnam War. It is not glorifying war, it is depicting the lives of civilians and soldiers during the OYW. 'Time Be Still' episode from the original comes to mind.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:55:10 AM No.23321613
>>23321557
Ah, yes, let's cherrypick something to suit your warped narrative. Old interview ass clown.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:23:06 PM No.23321724
p04gs5t9-2657538949
p04gs5t9-2657538949
md5: 58a5b419dcd6dd7b6488d863296efad4๐Ÿ”
>>23320063
>3,800 km from Sandy Cape to Cape Naturaliste
>793 pixels for the same distance in the image
>crater is 108 pixels tall
>therefore the impact crater from the colony drop is ~517 km across.
This is insane. The Chicxulub impact that caused the Cretaceous-Paleogene mass extinction that killed the dinosaurs and 75% of other species is 200km across. The single largest impact crater we've found on Earth, the Vredefort impact, was 300km across. Operation British would have killed literally everyone on Earth who didn't happen to be underground. Literally an instant mass extinction event.
>inb4 but they said it killed half...
Would have been unimaginably worse.
Replies: >>23321735 >>23322816 >>23322955 >>23326953 >>23330513
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:34:34 PM No.23321735
>>23321724

Half of humanity didn't perish through the colony drop hitting Sydney. You forget how Zeon targeted the other Sides save for Side 6. There were civilians in those colonies too.
Replies: >>23321744
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:38:19 PM No.23321741
>>23320044
what Y. T. gonna do?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:41:08 PM No.23321744
>>23321735
Given how rapidly the Sides were rebuilt and repopulate only a few short years after the One Year war, it's clear most of humanity still lived on Earth.

Many Survivors were probably exported from Earth. And anyone who resisted faced the Manhunter squads like we saw in CCA.
Replies: >>23321858
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:55:11 PM No.23321858
>>23321744
Uh, they didn't rebound THAT fast. 9 billion were in space. It took until CCA for the population to make 10b again.
Replies: >>23322077
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:20:06 PM No.23322029
>>23321527
I think it's just misprint. OYW started in early January 0079.
Replies: >>23322218
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:59:36 PM No.23322077
>>23321858
Pretty sure we saw entire Colony Sides rebuilt in Zeta and ZZ. And their population was booming.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:11:04 PM No.23322095
>>23320016 (OP)
I have this, use it as a coffee table book.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:14:24 PM No.23322184
>>23320044
>Y.T.
Subtle
Replies: >>23355304
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:18:07 PM No.23322192
>>23320070
I'm also under the impression that I read the scans many years ago. Maybe this is a better quality fantranslation.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:20:15 PM No.23322196
>>23320070
It's never been available in digital format before.
Replies: >>23323090
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:34:06 PM No.23322218
>>23321527
>What are these units?
Izubuchi's art, Izubuchi's designs. As far as he was concerned, that's just how those mobile suits looked.

>>23322029
It's an error also present in the Japanese print version; the book is presented chronologically
the error is also present in the sidebar, and it happens on other pages too
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:36:36 PM No.23322222
>>23320080
>Killed by the backblast
Clearly whoever drew this didn't serve in the JSDF
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:27:23 PM No.23322278
>>23320051
Lucky doctor
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:32:45 PM No.23322282
IMG_2795
IMG_2795
md5: 1e41cfb04b698087bb3b7d9fbe3d79c2๐Ÿ”
>>23320099
Because we got stuff like the garuda-class and base jabbers
Replies: >>23322323
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:43:25 PM No.23322299
>>23321504
Dumbass.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:58:03 PM No.23322323
>>23322282
There were only 2 or 3 of these in the entire Earth military. Zeon had hundreds of Gaws
Replies: >>23322344 >>23322647
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:12:39 PM No.23322344
>>23322323
>There were only 2 or 3 of these in the entire Earth military
Source: I made it the fuck up
Replies: >>23322416
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:17:12 PM No.23322358
>>23320161
So this is after Garma's death right? When Char gets demoted and is approached by Kycilia's men.
Replies: >>23330442
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:44:53 PM No.23322416
>>23322344
The Federation planned to make a total of 6 Garudas to patrol the Earth skies. At the time of Zeta, only 2 were finished before the Gryps war broke out. The Titans had one and the AEUG stole the other.

The Gundam community has known this for 20 YEARS. I don't mind you asking for sources, but it's pathetic that you don't even TRY to do basic research before opening your mouth. It's literally in the Zeta Gundam databooks. How can you not know this and claim to be an oldfag?
Replies: >>23322516
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:41:58 AM No.23322516
>>23322416
There's at least one more because Neo Zeon has their own in ZZ.
Replies: >>23322578
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:46:19 AM No.23322578
>>23322516
The Federation continued production of Garuda ships after Zeta according to ZZ databooks. .

Though I honestly question this decision. Why bother with giant planes when you had Minovsky engine ships like Albion or Ra Calium? Doesn't it make more sense to use those?
Replies: >>23322641 >>23322643
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:24:54 AM No.23322641
>>23322578
The other answer is Tomino got really used to just having motherships fly around in Dunbine and L-Gaim and anime should be economical with the number of mechanical designs the staff needs to juggle.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:25:32 AM No.23322643
>>23322578
My guess is that the earth federation was reserving those for space operations, it explains the existence of the anksha as well being an atmospheric based mobile suit while REZELโ€™s operating in space
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:27:59 AM No.23322647
>>23322323
Cause gaws and fat uncles got replaced by base jabbers
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:36:05 AM No.23322665
>>23320098
Damn that shield makes me diamonds
Replies: >>23329366
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:39:48 AM No.23322671
>>23320167
wait, is this why AE employees are all women?
Replies: >>23328430 >>23330442
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:43:16 AM No.23322684
>>23320170
What's this? Space Zakrello? I assume the one in the back is a Bigro variant?
Replies: >>23322796
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:54:48 AM No.23322715
I really like that they used animation cels for the art.
Replies: >>23322796
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:36:13 AM No.23322786
msera
msera
md5: 0ee578b713417b688ea78b587e1dd7cd๐Ÿ”
>>23320016 (OP)
This is missing a whole bunch like the Zeon gravestone on the moon and this one.
Replies: >>23322811 >>23324097
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:41:42 AM No.23322796
>>23322684
Read
>>23320256

>>23322715
Sort of, if you read up on it they did a ton of digital post work and compositing to get the look they were after. So much more like a modern all digital production. Still an incredibly tasteful mix of traditional and digital. It only sticks out in a few images.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:49:26 AM No.23322811
>>23322786
Gravestone
>>23320139

But why does this particular image get cut from the Popular edition re-release of M.S. Era 0099?
I remember someone posting all the differences between the two edition a ways back, but I can't find the thread on the archives at the moment.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:50:35 AM No.23322816
AnimeGundam (98)
AnimeGundam (98)
md5: 0d482bbbeb3624f43982ccaaf1759695๐Ÿ”
>>23321724
The Japanese, as much of all science fiction, cannot into scale.
Replies: >>23325501 >>23326953
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:03:15 AM No.23322835
>>23320093
Feel like there might be a parallel to something here.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:33:56 AM No.23322955
>>23321724
>inb4 but they said it killed half...
That's only origins canon. In the normal UC timeline only 10 million people died from the colony drop... besides the people who got gassed.
Replies: >>23325501
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:45:16 AM No.23323041
>>23321480
He's also point-blank said that anti-war morality lecturing sucks and Yas said that no one making the original gundam would've called it anti-war.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:17:09 AM No.23323085
>>23321480
It's not glorifying it. It's candid photos of life during the war.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:21:46 AM No.23323090
>>23322196
Wut? Do you mean a translated version hasn't been released in a digital format?
Replies: >>23323136
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:21:23 AM No.23323136
>>23323090
The digital version came out in 2008. Just like everything, it's never been translated until now. At this rate we'll have another 20 years until we get more lore books. Fuck sunrise
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:33:05 AM No.23323215
>>23320256
>christina's open chest zipper(very important)
Heh.
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/16/2025, 11:16:29 PM No.23324097
ms era spare page
ms era spare page
md5: 96d270c94160c294cd6f0997f4851fc5๐Ÿ”
>>23322786
better copy from my copy of 0099
I've got a transcript of my 0099's text around here somewhere
I'm almost certain Popular Edition was scanned and freely available like, a decade ago?
Replies: >>23324130 >>23324148 >>23325259 >>23329366
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/16/2025, 11:18:09 PM No.23324099
https://pastebin.com/566Nscgr
I forget if I ever did the photographer bio stuff
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:35:16 PM No.23324130
>>23324097
Thanks Dorkly.
Does the 0099 edition have a full artists notes section? Abridging it in the Popular Edition was a mistake.
Replies: >>23324159 >>23332519
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:41:23 PM No.23324148
>>23324097
>I'm almost certain Popular Edition was scanned and freely available like, a decade ago?
I've been seeding it since 2015, so at least
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/16/2025, 11:48:49 PM No.23324159
>>23324130
I'm not sure
I do recall it having the bios of the photographers who took the images, not sure about the actual irl info about the illusts themselves
I'll try to check when I get home from work
Replies: >>23324170
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:52:03 PM No.23324170
>>23324159
While you're at it, could you remind me which color pictures were changed to black and white for the Poplar Edition?
Replies: >>23325313
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:31:13 AM No.23324224
>>23321504
Wow you're a faggot.
Replies: >>23324256
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:45:20 AM No.23324245
>>23320244
Honestly, the OYW numbers are insane.
3.5 billion deaths in two weeks, this makes zero sense.
Gundam really has a worldbuilding problem imo, which doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things.
Replies: >>23324264 >>23324271
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:49:55 AM No.23324253
>>23320244
>All the various side gundams, GMs were deveolped and built in under a month
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:51:32 AM No.23324256
>>23324224
A valuable post died for this post
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:56:37 AM No.23324264
>>23324245
>3.5 billion deaths in two weeks, this makes zero sense.
At the start of the OYW the population in the colonies were around 10 billions of people living on the space. not really sure about this number, change every other day
So destroying a lot of Zahn (Side 1) and Moore (Side 4), and all of Hatte (Side 2) and Loum (Side 5) you can easily can reach those numbers. Plus the people that died on the Earth due the colony drop aftermath.
What is incredible is that humanity on space as a whole did turn out totally against Zeon for inflicting that harm on the spacenoid population.
Replies: >>23324270 >>23325068
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:05:43 AM No.23324270
>>23324264
I don't even mean the numbers, though that wasn't clear. I think the aftermath and the way the survivors deal with a bloodbath of such scale is bizarre.
Replies: >>23324274 >>23324287
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:06:11 AM No.23324271
>>23324245
>3.5 billion deaths in two weeks, this makes zero sense
Gundam has already been subject to silly numbers for a long time, but hang on. in a conventional ground war on earth when a city becomes a battlefield, then all the civvies are gonna pack up and run. but in a colony they have abso-fucking-lutely nowhere to go and they're just gonna fucking die without support or rescue if large weapons or nukes come into play

I mean, a colony can have up to what, 40 million residents at max. Just nuke or tear some holes in a colony and at least 90% of the population dies right away since the shelters can't possibly store the entire population safely, even 10% of the population, 4 million people safely reaching the bunkers and underground safe rooms would be best possible outcome. then consider that if the colony stays intact and doesn't get further damage and collapse, then those 4 million initial survivors are gonna go through the stored food and water rations in a couple of days max, and there's logistically no fucking way to resupply or mass evacuate millions of people safely when the airspace around the colonies themselves are a warzone, so they're all gonna starve to death or run out of air within a week or two
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:10:33 AM No.23324274
>>23324270
>I think the aftermath and the way the survivors deal with a bloodbath of such scale is bizarre.
oh yeah, that's totally messed up too. large numbers of adults were dead and even mid-teenagers got drafted into the fighting. the economy in general should have been fucked for decades, and postwar there would have been immediate food and manpower shortages, but as far as we can see in zeta and 0083, it's sorta all just.. normal and stuff
Replies: >>23324287 >>23324958
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:25:00 AM No.23324287
>>23324270
>>23324274
It seems every cluster of colonies is self-sufficient and they only really important "raw" material is Helium-3.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:04:34 AM No.23324958
>>23324274
You'd think the entire human race would have PTSD.
Economy would have def shrunk, but with less population less food demands, so manpower shortage, especially with machination, shouldn't lead to mas starvation. But who knows. Hopefully we never experience a systems collapse in the real world...
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:21:23 PM No.23325068
>>23324264
>around 10 billions of people living on the space
The total population of UC was around 12 billion. Half in live in space.
Replies: >>23325091 >>23325248
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:07:24 PM No.23325091
bezosspace
bezosspace
md5: 4d6108d5285017a16e5258ac61546921๐Ÿ”
>>23325068
Oh 70s Tomino, no idea how quickly the population was balloon still deep on Earth, nor the tech to keep it up.

Bezos presentation with colonies was really trippy though.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:18:22 PM No.23325208
>>23320053
Now that's some good stuff
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:50:19 PM No.23325248
>>23325068
According to this >>23320244 by 0050 UC there were 11 billion humans and 9 billions lived on the colonies.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:58:46 PM No.23325259
>>23324097
I keep misremembering this with her topless.
Replies: >>23326825
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/17/2025, 4:40:44 PM No.23325313
>>23324170
no luck finding it so far, I'll try back again later after I catch GQ tonight
the color->b/w I recall is I think the faked byg zam photo as a change from MS Era to 0099?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:20:15 PM No.23325470
>>23320150
Itโ€™s Amuro!
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:21:16 PM No.23325472
>>23320156
Chris!
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:36:42 PM No.23325501
1qn1pw9bswb41
1qn1pw9bswb41
md5: 7c6e1e9dec57ad5af7d8c43b8e170450๐Ÿ”
>>23322955
>only origins
The intro narration to 0079 episodes literally says that half the human population in space and on Earth is dead by the show's start.
>>23322816
>continental scale orogenic activity due to disturbance of crust
>Earth rotation sped up by 28.8 seconds per day
>immediate effects only limited to Australia
>only 300 million dead in initial impact (including NA)
>only 9.5 magnitude earthquake
>only 60,000 MTons of TNT equivalent
None of these numbers make sense, even remotely. Like claiming that a nuclear bomb dropped in the middle of modern Tokyo only killed 2,000 people and disrupted traffic for the afternoon.

Chicxulub, which was demonstrably smaller, had a TNT eq. of 400,000,000 MT, changed the day by 9 milliseconds, did drastically less impact damage. It also ignited planetary firestorms as the massive amount of debris thrown up by the impact fell back down and heated the atmosphere (400-1,000ยฐC) and blocked out the sun for a year. Like, fuck, I get sci-fi writers don't actually understand anything they write about but this is ridiculously bad.
Replies: >>23326151 >>23326953 >>23327671 >>23327682 >>23342328
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:34:07 PM No.23326151
>>23325501
This is why I ignore the details in databooks when it comes to colony drops.

Tomino made it clear. All you need to know about the Colony drop in mobile suit Gundam is"

1. It was incredibly devastating. Half of people living on Earth died.

2. It REALLY screwed up the planet, environment, and many cities were destroyed.

That's all.

Forget about all the nonsense numbers in databooks.
Replies: >>23326167 >>23326290 >>23326817 >>23327671
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:39:33 PM No.23326167
>>23326151
It wasn't half the people living on Earth died you stupid dipshit. Rewatch the fucking show and LISTEN to the narration.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:31:04 PM No.23326290
>>23326151
Yeah I figured. Tomino has always been a big picture kind of guy. Earth was devastated and space was devastated. Both sides suffered huge losses. Half of humanity died.
Replies: >>23337634
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:21:31 AM No.23326817
>>23326151
I'm not arguing about the feasibility of the colony drop or how it fits narratively into the setting. I'm just talking about how these specific pieces are entirely stupid. There's lots of ways to throw an O'Neil-type colony at the Earth and have it been devastating but not apocalyptic, but these guys are just slapping numbers that are senseless. This is a pet peeve of mine in almost all scifi. You'll get a nice book with a good story, and then the author will try and technobabble their way into something and end up giving their unobtainium armor the Young's modulus of styrofoam.

I've only seen 0079 and half of Zeta , but it seems like Tomino (and others in those shows) are really good at not putting hard numbers on things that don't need hard numbers.
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dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/18/2025, 2:24:31 AM No.23326825
>>23325259
that's a different pic
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:36:28 AM No.23326866
>>23326817
Tomino and Fukuda some directors are known for saying that databooks aren't that important. What's important is the story and characters.

Tomino creates a basic setting and leaves it alone. Then he heavily emphasizes character development. He also uses female characters to tell important lessonsz and tries to make the anime show the horrors of war.

It's Tomino's staff members and sometimes editors that try to add lots of details to the story for the purposes of databooks and gunpla models. Tomino doesn't care about any of that. Tomino even said he doesn't care about the OVA Gundam anime that was made without him as Director. They don't fit his UC Gundam story.

Fukuda scoffs at mecha details too. He designs cool looking mecha first. Details come later. He has a certain style that he uses for Seed. Fukuda said not to place too much importance on databooks because things constantly change during production. Ship classes, names, what technology mecha use, etc are all subject to change. He even recently said the information in the latest databooks for Seed Freedom are now out of date because things have changed since they were published.
Personally I only use databooks just to get a general understanding for the Timeline of events. Like understanding the timeline of the One Year War. But I don't care about databooks when it comes to which mobile suit flies 8% faster or which mobile suit has 5% longer sensor range or which mobile suit weighs 12% heavier. Tiny details like that don't matter and are often wrong.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:11:21 AM No.23326953
>>23325501
>>23322816
>>23321724
If you read one of these things and crack out your calculator to check the numbers, you're too autistic to enjoy things. It doesn't matter, they're just funny numbers to fill a databook. You're supposed to watch the show and look at what happens, not read the cross sections book and post online about how they have conflicting sources about how many zakus were in loum.

Hey if you check closely, you might even notice the mechs don't make very much sense either. Boy, I sure hope someone got fired for that!
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:38:44 AM No.23327570
>>23326866
>>He even recently said the information in the latest databooks for Seed Freedom are now out of date because things have changed since they were published.

Citation needed.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:05:28 AM No.23327610
>>23327570
Does it bother you that Fukuda said databooks don't hold much weight? Kek.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:07:03 AM No.23327613
>>23320044
Is this where Yas got his design?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:09:53 AM No.23327616
>>23327610
Damn straight so I want proof so I can get humiliated by the word of god
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:26:38 AM No.23327665
>>23326866
>Tomino and Fukuda some directors are known for saying that databooks aren't that important
my dad works at nintendo too
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:28:25 AM No.23327671
>>23325501
>>23326151
>>23326953
Coloines are mostly empty space. The mass is much smaller than an asteroid
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:33:24 AM No.23327682
>>23325501
>Chicxulub, which was demonstrably smaller, had a TNT eq. of 400,000,000 MT
An O'Niel cylinder is estimated to be at around 1 million metric ton which is 1 X 10e9 kg. The Chicxulub asteroid is estimated to be at least 1.0ร—10e15 and 4.6ร—10e17 kg. Multiple orders in mass as well as velocity because on an orbit around the sun and not the Earth. Stop pretending to be smart. Tomino also apologized for realizing that an O'Niel cylinder would unlikely remain in tact long enough for it to impact the Earth as shown, which is true.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:56:03 AM No.23327861
>>23326866
Tomino has made incredibly dense worlds like G-Reco and Byston Well, if you read his novels, he goes in depth about the state of the world and the geo-politics at play. I agree that he isn't much concerned about the gundam works not made by him but he loves world building in his own shows.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:01:09 AM No.23327875
>>23327861
Now that more novels are translated, people can actually see how good Tomino is as a world builder. It's common for Tomino to go into a tangent in his novels to flesh out elements of the world and how people behave around them. One of the example I remember his how he described in the F91 novel most jobs in the colonies are actually unimportant made-up jobs that could have otherwise been completely automated to keep people busy and have a sense of purpose and normality, referring to Seabook's milkman part time job.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:17:40 PM No.23328359
>>23327875
So nothing jobs to excuse the universal basic income?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:25:38 PM No.23328370
>>23320131
Cute
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:55:25 PM No.23328430
>>23322671
Wong and October aren't women
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:09:42 PM No.23329331
>>23320022
>moon landing as the beginning of UC
so we are 20 or so years away from our own OYW.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:28:13 PM No.23329366
>>23322665
There's a dude on Etsy that sells 3D prints of it in both 1/144 and 1/100.

>>23324097
I remember a site in another language that had it but now I can't find it. Think you could make a MEGA?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:21:45 PM No.23329486
>>23327610
If he did supposedly say this, he likely said other stuff in addition to that, which is why I'm curious as to what else was said, so I'd genuinely like a link to any tweets or whatever where he said this.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:29:32 AM No.23329819
>>23328359
Nothingjobs to prevent most of the population from fucking killing themselves.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:23:43 AM No.23330442
>>23322358
Yes, precisely

>>23322671
also yes, it's making a parallel to the irl increase of women in the workforce in the US during ww2
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:06:35 AM No.23330508
>>23327682
Lmao. You're one to talk about "pretending to be smart" when you can't even read plain English. You're literally making the same point that you claim to be refuting. Yes, Chicxulub was drastically more massive. It also had radically different effects than the ones they wrote for the colony drop. The colony drop left a crater over twice as large, an earth rotation change 3,200 times larger, but minimal actual blast and environmental effects. It's a massive, and retarded contradiction.
>Tomino
Tomnio and his opinions don't matter, because he isn't the one putting stupid numbers to all this in the art books.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 7:09:00 AM No.23330513
>>23321724
Colonies are hollow unlike giant space rocks. It's not inconceivable that it wouldn't have caused mass extinction. It still ought to have caused more damage than it did though.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:47:54 AM No.23330668
>>23320016 (OP)
are there more books like this or was this a one off project?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:02:27 AM No.23330679
>>23320257
>all these dudes born in the 50s/60s

i honestly feel like these older guys had some sort of creative touch that modern creators just dont have. why is so much of the best /m/ shit made by these old japanese guys?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:04:08 AM No.23330681
>>23321480
>He's always said he's against things that make war look cool or interesting
>makes show about war being fought with cool looking things to sell toys
i feel like this is moral performing cop out shit.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:20:12 AM No.23330694
>>23330679
I think it's something people don't expect. There's been many, many cases where an entire generation of comedians all did shows at a club in aberdeen or wherever. I think a big part is showing that these things come in waves and the big names usually knew each other for years. People get to know each other in these circles and they help each other up as well.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:21:54 AM No.23330695
>>23330681
It's partly just bullshit. He grumbles every so often about how everything likes the gundam but he's admitted he thought the B2's bombing his home looked really cool as well. He'd be the first to say "care about my writing too, dammit!" but also accept that people are showing up in the first place because the gundam is cool and interesting.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:32:53 AM No.23330707
>>23330694
do you want to elaborate on what you mean? im not following you. I just notice a trend where the older generation really seemed to have a better ability to tell original stories or they had a better creative touch where they knew when to add more or when to use less when designing something or telling a story.

today in 2025 we are still talking about things guys made in like the 80s/90s/2000s and i just dont think the new IPs have the same star power or impact on people. and the new iterations of franchise that are still around today that have been around since the 80s-2000s just are worse forms and imitations of what they were before. just honestly feels like the older generation was legitimately more artistically gifted.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:51:17 AM No.23330726
>>23330707
I just mean that in media and entertainment, it's not an odd occurrence that large amounts of big names even in specific fields all come from the same generations and the same places. I don't think it's surprising that a bunch of mecha animators would be born around the same few years, you'll notice trends like that all over the place.
I'm not saying I have an answer other than "people know people and that gives them a leg up or inspiration" but it happens over and over again. If want to find the second best guy at doing something, look at where and when the first best guy graduated.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:10:32 PM No.23332023
>>23320171
didn't this happen in the show? where are Ryu and Hayato?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 9:17:00 PM No.23332038
>>23326866
Then there's Nagai, who retconned his entire world in the databooks
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 10:13:05 PM No.23332151
Gundamep24b
Gundamep24b
md5: fcca8bf351a101991d27197a9c1b3cb1๐Ÿ”
>>23332023
They weren't in the original scene either
Ryu had died a few episodes earlier in the TV version
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:02:00 PM No.23332261
>>23330707
>I just notice a trend where the older generation really seemed to have a better ability to tell original stories or they had a better creative touch where they knew when to add more or when to use less when designing something or telling a story.

Different anon here. The answer is simple.

When it comes to anime, the answer is simple. The older generation of anime directors and creators came from many different backgrounds. Many grew up different jobs, traveled the world, and did other tasks before settling down in animation. They were much more adventurous and lived life. The older generation injected their life experience into the anime they made. They didn't choose to do anime as a dream job, but simply fell into the industry as a way to earn money and support their young families.

For example, the people who made Macross Plus literally went to USA Edward's Air Force Base and studied how jets fly. Riding inside them Top Gun style to study and personally experience how pilots feel when pulling high G maneuvers. So they understood how to animate a pilot for Macross Plus.


The new generation of anime creators and directors have no life experience. They had no hobbies growing up. They grew up watching anime and that's all they know. It's why new anime is such garbage and so generic. If they tried to make Macross today, it would just be some Otaku animator with a desk full of anime merchandise. He would download a CGI model of a plane, copy paste it into the show. He wouldn't understand what a pilot feels and what are/are not appropriate movements to keep it realistic.

I use Macross repeatedly because it's a really good example. The older generation and older staff members, who worked on class Macross anime, have insulted the new Macross shows. Calling them nothing but "idol drama", and completely unrealistic boring combat.

But yeah a bit of a rant. But the solution is to stop hiring animators with no life experience. Hire adventurous people.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:20:05 PM No.23332293
>>23332261
>The older generation and older staff members, who worked on class Macross anime, have insulted the new Macross shows. Calling them nothing but "idol drama", and completely unrealistic boring combat.

You mean just Itano who in the end became an old softie after being a tiny bit mean to Frontier? His generation were literally the first otaku who got into making anime because they loved it as children.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:39:31 PM No.23332336
>>23332261
>The new generation of anime creators and directors have no life experience.
This is false. They have no more or less life experience than the older animators. What changed is the anime itself. Whereas before it was simply the way they animated in Japan, it has ossified somewhat and built up a series of stock tropes and idiosyncrasies. The older animators were just animators, while now there is a sizeable portion of people in the industry who are specifically anime animators.

There's also a massive dose of survivorship bias. That's probably the reason for the vast majority of the feeling. Nobody remembers or talks about all the old stuff that sucked shit and was forgotten. It's the same thing as music. Yeah, Pink Floyd and Bach are great and all, but there were armies of bands and composers that didn't spark a larger following or get commercial success.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 12:19:32 AM No.23332411
>>23332336
>This is false. They have no more or less life experience than the older animators.
Nope. New people in the animation industry are losers who dream about entering the anime industry.

>What changed is the anime itself.
Because the anime being made now are made by losers.
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/20/2025, 1:24:50 AM No.23332519
this isn't about if this is a selfie by kumiko fentess
>>23324130
>Does the 0099 edition have a full artists notes section? Abridging it in the Popular Edition was a mistake.
looks like there's a bit of commentary by the artists on each pic
my moon sucks but that's def not "is this a Kumiko Fentess selfie? it is a mystery"

I have very nice photos of the main pages from a whoopity shit SLR camera I used back in the day, but I'm not sure if I got the back pages
I'll try to poke around, if I don't have them I can probably shit out some spudpics like this at least of them, it's not great but this is more a legibility thing than really caring about preserving the tiny thumbnail of the image that's already in a big form.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 2:59:59 AM No.23332704
>>23332519
Nice, I love that the fictional photographer reflected in the monoeye is being referenced. Cool to read how it tried to include elements from the original M.S. Era photo collection too.
Thanks again Dorkly, you are a cool dude.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:51:20 PM No.23334189
>>23320105
kek, potential for a meme format.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:13:39 PM No.23334235
>>23332519
Why is this one missing?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:38:46 PM No.23334284
>>23332336
NTA but when this topic comes up a lot of guys bring up the fact these older japanese creators grew up not long after WW2. probably a big reason why the older anime felt so much heavier but in a genuine way not in a forced way. just taking inspiration from stories their dad told them or maybe even things they saw while ww2 was happening.

the survivorship bias angle seems like midwit reddit tier reductionism and handwaving to me. I dont think there is much anime today or maybe any (that i have seen) that has the same weight to it that a lot of the older anime did. i dont mean that in the sense of the plot or story even i just mean it in terms of action choreography and small details that make it feel real. would be glad to be proven wrong though. yeah i bet a lot of the old anime was garbage just like today there is a lot of garbage anime. but there seems to be elements from old anime that are just completely absent today entirely.

perhaps some of it is moving from cel to digital, changing target demographics, different influences on the creators in different generations, different demands by shareholders. i have no clue. people on /m/ used to stream some old OVA stuff and i was pretty blown away by some of the stuff they made back then. and like
>>23332261
said there did seem to be more of an emphasis on background research to flesh out minute easily missed details in older works. it isnt really a great example but i remember in gundam war in the pocket, in the first episode that dudes cockpit got shot up, and the guys flask gets shot and knocked around spilling stuff everywhere. added a lot to the scene despite on paper being nothing at all. older anime seemed to really embrace approach which made worlds feel real.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:58:55 PM No.23334310
>>23334235
See >>23320253
The Popular Edition trimmed content from 0099 presumably to save costs. Idk, but "space limitations" means they had an absolute page count they couldn't go over.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:03:52 PM No.23334323
>>23334284
Don't you remember the old saying? As creators and writers, you write what you know.


- How do you expect someone to make video game about a Ferrari if they have never driven a Ferrari?

- How do you expect someone to make an anime about surfing if they haven't experienced surfing at least several times?

- How do you expect someone to make an anime about the horrors of war if they never experienced the effects of war?


Japan is such a sheltered country. Their military is a glorified coast guard. And they population often says "Don't resort to violence!" like it's a magic spell. Which makes me chuckle. So of course the newer generation can't make good war anime. I'm not saying they are bad people. I'm saying they are soft. They haven't been shaped by the vicissitudes of life. Like raw soft metal being forged by fire into hardened steel.

You should really think twice when you see a Japanese animator giving an interview saying "They grew up on anime", or one of those Blue haired Crunchyroll animators who say "Anime is their life" in a YouTube video. If anime is their life, then they have no life at all.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:09:39 PM No.23334335
>>23334310
Doesn't make any sense since it would've only been a handful of pages. Likely there were issues with the artist not granting a reprint? That or they lost the originals and couldn't reprint them.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:11:31 PM No.23334341
Ludendorff_Bridge_from_Erpeler_Ley - Edward Lengel
Ludendorff_Bridge_from_Erpeler_Ley - Edward Lengel
md5: b6db6b5bdbd9efb5849fe99343a148de๐Ÿ”
>>23332519
It's kind of interesting, I never actually noticed that this picture was the one on the cover of the dust jacket before.
It says the bridge was inspired by the "Remagan" bridge by which they surely mean the Ludendorff Bridge which was never rebuilt after WW2.

>>23334189
"I am a genius!"
"Oh no!"
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:14:29 PM No.23334350
>>23334341
Everybody calls it the Bridge at Remagan.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:34:50 PM No.23334382
>>23334335
Publishing is a bit more complicated than that. Was the Popular Edition perfect bound or sewn signatures? A lot more goes into making a book than just what the artist's and editor's want.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:17:35 AM No.23334608
>>23327671
This. We also see in ZZ how much the colony breaks up when being dropped
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:02:26 AM No.23335136
>>23334323
People say all this and then also didn't experience the effects of war.
Even tomino said he doesn't consider himself fully part of the war generation because he was too young. You've got gegege no kitaro as the bulk of your true war experienced generation manga.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:06:10 AM No.23335140
>>23332261
>The older generation of anime directors and creators came from many different backgrounds
This is eternally fake because the kind of guy who really wants to write cartoon robot series, or god forbid, animate them, has always self-selected for anti-social personality types.
People like to imagine that captain hornblower himself used to drop in to write an episode of space patroller garginxler when it was always just an older generation of guy who kind of hates everyone a bit and likes writing.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:17:09 AM No.23335344
>>23334382
Uh, that's the last thing that matters.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:24:12 AM No.23335351
>>23335140


1. Many of them didn't WANT to work in anime. They simply fell into it because they needed to work and support their families. Tomino himself said he wanted to be a Live action director for movies, but settled for anime because he needed consistent work to support his wife and kids. If you deep dive into this, you will find many of the 70s and 80s Directors and staff didn't have their origins in anime. They started by doing other things.

2. The 1970s anime job industry was a completely different time compared to modern anime in Japan. It was a time of expansion and growth. People without any formal training could get a job at animation studio. You didn't need to know how to draw. You could work as a Coordinator, Production assistant, photographer, etc. Then work your way up in the studio system.


3. The Job industry was different pre-internet. Both in Japan and America. As long as you lived locally, you had a decent chance of getting hired. You werent competing with HUNDREDS or Thousands of other people around the world.

I once looked at LinkedIn.com job posting about 8 years ago. It was for a job at an anime company (I think Crunchyroll). Entry level position in California. But Linkedin tells you how many people applied. Within 4 hours of the job being posted, it said 900+ people applied. And the comments were from people in Brazil, South America, India, etc. All saying they love anime and want to work in Crunchyroll and come to the USA. Absolutely insane. I found out later they hired Crunchyroll hired the Brazilian guy and he wrote an essay announcing his hire on Linkedin and giving us a backstory about how anime inspired him blah blah blah.I feel sorry for Americans living locally having to compete with some guy in another country.

Pre-internet was so much better.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 7:54:07 AM No.23335386
>>23335351
>Tomino himself said he wanted to be a Live action director for movies, but settled for anime because he needed consistent work to support his wife and kids.
Respect to Tomino for giving up his dream to support his Familia.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:21:44 AM No.23335413
>>23335351
This is multiple points that have nothing to do with the "le sigh, animators just have no souls now! you can't draw a gundam properly unless you've been bombed!" miyazaki doomer take. People have always started here or there and then pivoted into directing jobs, what would that have to do with the quality of the productions anyway? What jobs were they doing that instantly elevate their directing above a guy who starts work in anime regardless?

Globalism and greater investor control is ruining everything all at once, it's got little to do with the guys working on the shows. No one's allowed to make anything good with a budget now, they're required to make garbage to please the studio with 50%+ outsourcing and suddenly everything looks like shit and has no appeal and some big brain comes along and start parroting the bullshit miyazaki was saying had happened already and ruined the industry in the fucking 80's.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:30:12 AM No.23335423
Noa too Happy
Noa too Happy
md5: a8045227746cc13852bb8c6ee55210aa๐Ÿ”
>>23335351
imagine wanting to work for crunchy roll
I mean, really
Fuck I hate normies
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:40:31 AM No.23335430
>>23335351
>>23335386
lmao, that is bullshit. He wasn't married when he enter to work at Mushi Pro. Heck, even his mother was the one that connect him with that job.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:50:29 AM No.23335482
>>23335413
>you can't draw a gundam properly unless you've been bombed
Well the Gundam is *supposed* to be frightening in a visual sense. If you watched the original 0079, Tomino always made enemy pilot's reaction to the Gundam the focus of the battle. He was always showing the audience how the enemy feared the Gundam. And even when Tomino didn't show the pilots directly, he gave a lot of visual cues that the Gundam wad to be feared. Like Zakus freaking out and trying to run away. Or mobile suits acting like scared humans and panicking.

This was slowly lost over the decades. New shows always show the pilot of the Gundam more, and everyone around is always in "awe" of the Gundam. With a "Wow this Gundam is so cool" mentality. It's not a frightening weapon of mass destruction anymore.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 6:50:53 PM No.23336059
>>23335482
>This was slowly lost over the decades.
It was a deliverated choice since Z Gundam. The mobile suit became more complicated and harder to animate, in contrast with MSG when a mobile suit has "simpler" designs. The only time when they could repeat that was on high level productions like in CCA, or when the mecha action is more sparse like in War in the Pocket.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:11:51 AM No.23337529
>>23336059
I honestly wouldn't mind downgrading the animation quality for better storytelling. I don't need a polished turd like Unicorn Gundam.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:38:51 AM No.23337581
218c8070fdfbfc946c6d1c934c25bc5d
218c8070fdfbfc946c6d1c934c25bc5d
md5: bc2df72fe1dc3a22fed2cb7faf7684d3๐Ÿ”
>>23335482
>everyone around is always in "awe" of the Gundam
lol the various gundams are still constantly emerging from shadows/fog with glowing eyes and killing people. The original gundam also frequently stood around looking gormless and nonthreatening as well. It's always had both sides, that it's threatening but it's also just a machine.
>It's not a frightening weapon of mass destruction anymore
It was absolutely never this. It's literally not even a weapon of mass destruction, all of its weapons are pinpoint. It's a duelist, a warrior. It's mobile armors with their spread beams that occupy that narrative role.
Compare the presentation here. Psycho gundam is the big evil destructor, a dragon. MkII is the knight facing it.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 5:57:48 AM No.23337634
CINSPACESWEEPERS (23)
CINSPACESWEEPERS (23)
md5: 50c86886cfe52b888ac74011ceebc433๐Ÿ”
>>23326290
Gundam needed its Death Star.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 11:05:18 PM No.23339059
MS114
MS114
md5: 191a617b02c68ae65774eec3fe9222eb๐Ÿ”
>>23320210
colored rendition
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:20:53 PM No.23341199
>>23320199
KEK, char likes to watch from the bushes.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:08:39 AM No.23342328
>>23325501
>The intro narration to 0079 episodes literally says that half the human population in space and on Earth is dead by the show's start.
That was from the entire war up till that point the colony drop was only a tiny part of it. Most of the deaths came from nuclear exchanges
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:26:11 AM No.23342381
>>23320016 (OP)
Some of these are so fucking good. Like art museum tier. What the fuck happened to anime, man?
Replies: >>23344611
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:41:56 PM No.23344611
>>23342381
Japan's economic bubble burst in the 90s.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:11:30 AM No.23344708
>>23342328
>nuclear exchanges
No, it was because Zeon fucking decimated Side 2 and Side 5. There was supposed to be 8-9 billion people on the colonies. Loosing two Sides means the death of a lot of people.
Replies: >>23346487 >>23347974
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:34:55 AM No.23346487
>>23344708
It was a nuclear weapons, it was so devastating that they had to sign Antarctic treaty. I doubt Side 2 and 5 had 8-9 billion people.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 12:34:50 AM No.23347974
>>23344708
>No, it was because Zeon fucking decimated Side 2 and Side 5. There was supposed to be 8-9 billion people on the colonies. Loosing two Sides means the death of a lot of people.

Are you seriously so stupid to believe that the Federation never fired their own nuclear weapons against Zeon? Especially after getting hit by Zeon nukes?

The databooks even say that the Federation moved half their stockpile of nukes to Luna 2 to equip their space fleets with nuclear missiles before the One Year War.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:53:10 AM No.23350731
>>23320072
I've always had a soft spot for this particular image.
Replies: >>23353916
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:31:15 AM No.23350774
GZc6Gy4WAAA7uCT
GZc6Gy4WAAA7uCT
md5: fc960ca0800a1beb8a6ab7dd1525e568๐Ÿ”
>>23320167
>ywn climb into your brand new GM and catch the lingering fragrance of sweaty mechanic girls
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:20:52 PM No.23351263
>>23320163
Are this GM Sniper Custom I or II?
Replies: >>23351358 >>23351574
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:53:02 PM No.23351313
>>23320016 (OP)
>Visitors of the site may notice that the downloads tab is no longer available. Unfortunately, due to what are likely fake copyright infringement strikes on my Mega account, Iโ€™ve elected to scrub the former downloads page of links to the offending titles and just link to them on MangaDex. Sorry, I just donโ€™t have the time to keep reuploading every time thereโ€™s a takedown. Today marked 18 titles, so Iโ€™m done trying to fight the idiocy.
Retard canโ€™t set up a torrent.
Replies: >>23352658 >>23352659
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 1:37:41 PM No.23351358
>>23351263
Since the art was done by the people who worked on 0080, it's probably a GM Sniper II
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 4:42:03 PM No.23351574
>>23351263
II clearly. They are very different suits.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:37:47 AM No.23352658
>>23351313
No one fucking torrents anymore in this generation. Not to mention having to jump through VPNs to do so or get ISP spacked.
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 4:38:51 AM No.23352659
>>23351313
Dude hasn't torrented in 15 years. Where the fuck have you been, loser?
Anonymous
6/28/2025, 8:59:10 PM No.23353916
>>23350731
This kind of thing seems unrealistic on the surface, before realising that it has real life precedence.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 12:20:01 AM No.23354167
>>23320227
>lemme just check on my officer
>oh he's dead
>better get on the ground and snap this pic!
Replies: >>23354235
dorkly_chair at instituteforspacepolitics.org
6/29/2025, 1:05:31 AM No.23354235
>>23354167
probably taken by feds as they took the station?
they probably explain who took it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 1:30:24 AM No.23354285
A lot of these pictures look cool, but half of them don't really make sense.

Why is there a random photographer standing around when Federation soldiers are trying to desperately hide and ambush Zeon MS?

Why is there a photographer taking pictures of half baked women getting examined by doctors?

Why is there a photographer just randomly sitting under the wing of a Zeon Gaw Attack carrier dropping bombs on Jaburo?

Why is there a random photographer inside a group of Amazon rainforest native hunter tribesmen?
Replies: >>23354707 >>23354746
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:07:44 AM No.23354654
>>23320144
Man this would be so cool to actually do.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:20:52 AM No.23354707
1740604749008601
1740604749008601
md5: a8815724752181ccdcb58e140d56128b๐Ÿ”
>>23354285
Because they're all based on real life war photos and these photographers would be embedded with units for propaganda purposes.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:29:18 AM No.23354746
>>23354285
>A lot of these pictures look cool, but half of them don't really make sense.
>Why is there a random photographer standing around when Federation soldiers are trying to desperately hide and ambush Zeon MS?
war correspondent
>Why is there a photographer taking pictures of half baked women getting examined by doctors?
war correspondent
>Why is there a photographer just randomly sitting under the wing of a Zeon Gaw Attack carrier dropping bombs on Jaburo?
war correspondent
>Why is there a random photographer inside a group of Amazon rainforest native hunter tribesmen?
nature documentary
Replies: >>23355352
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:02:20 AM No.23354805
Thanks, OP. Stunning how they captured the real feeling of historical war photos. Having recently rewatched 0080 myself, it hit extra hard.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:48:39 AM No.23354893
>>23329819
From the perspective of a hypothetical higher government though, especially the more corrupt leaders among the feddies, would it not make sense to uhh, not care about them doing that? Less mouths to feed that way and that pretty much ends up being the goal regardless.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 7:37:06 AM No.23355160
Thanks a lot for the dump OP, these illustrations are beautiful. This one >>23320182 has to be my favorite, I can't really explain why.
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:35:33 AM No.23355304
>>23322184
I don't get it
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 9:54:08 AM No.23355332
>>23320788
I am
now stfu
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:17:10 AM No.23355352
>>23354746
Yes I'm sure those soldiers hiding in secret with a bazooka really appreciate a War Correspondent standing out in the open and blowing their cover
Replies: >>23355385
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 10:40:30 AM No.23355385
>>23355352
it happens from time to time

https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/31/sprj.irq.geraldo/
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 4:52:48 PM No.23358239
char's broadcast
char's broadcast
md5: 39a854fe52ab7f9533a14ad5298050ca๐Ÿ”
Sayla in the corner.
Replies: >>23358866
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 10:31:05 PM No.23358866
>>23358239
proof? that's just some random blonde woman
Replies: >>23359808
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:38:50 AM No.23359668
>>23320016 (OP)
Definitely my favorite mecha artbook i own
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 5:55:10 AM No.23359712
>>23320229
I hope someone kills you with a hammer
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 7:03:38 AM No.23359808
>>23358866
>blonde
>short hairstyle
>glasses
>framed away from char
Black_Knight !DlQLyppdkQ
7/2/2025, 3:14:08 AM No.23361352
>>23321527
IIRC, they were originally going to reboot the designs of the Zeon mobile suits using Izubuchi's models, but then backtracked and created the United Maintenance Plan to explain why the locked different in War in the Pocket.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 7:27:30 AM No.23363555
Thread was fun while it lasted.